Problem at startup - lockup loading swap

2010-09-12 Thread Micha
I'm trying to help a friend over the phone, so I don't have all the details,
but I would be happy for some pointers if anyone has them

The machine with mostly up to date debian unstable on occasion decides to lock
up for several minutes after or at the point of mounting the swap partition.

Previous time that happened starting a different kernel solved the problem.
This time all kernels showed the same issue, we though that it was in a hard
lockup, but after several minutes it freed up and continued booting.

We tried running swapoff -a, mkswap and swapon -a. On the call to swapon the
machine complained about not finding the swap's UUID (which didn't match the
value reported by mkswap). The only information in /etc/fstab regarding UUID is
commented out.

Any ideas about what the problem is and/or how to disable UUIDs altogether as
they seem to be giving constant trouble?

thanks

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Re: Problem at startup - lockup loading swap

2010-09-12 Thread geoffrey mendelson


On Sep 12, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Micha wrote:



We tried running swapoff -a, mkswap and swapon -a. On the call to  
swapon the
machine complained about not finding the swap's UUID (which didn't  
match the
value reported by mkswap). The only information in /etc/fstab  
regarding UUID is

commented out.


That's what is causing the UUID problem. You deleted the swap  
partition and reformated it.


You have to remove or reconfigure the sleep to swap program, uswsusp.



Any ideas about what the problem is and/or how to disable UUIDs  
altogether as

they seem to be giving constant trouble?



I think you are barking up the wrong tree. It's probably not a swap  
problem, you are assuming it's one because that's the last message you  
got.


Geoff.

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Re: Problem at startup - lockup loading swap

2010-09-12 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:01:14 +0200
Tom Goren t...@tomgoren.com wrote:

 use the appropriate /dev/sdaX entry instead of the UUID - something may be
 messed up with the hash - especially if you have done mkswap already.
 

It worked for swapon /dev/sda5 but I need to change the default boot process 
to
use that as well.

 
 
 On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Micha mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
 
  I'm trying to help a friend over the phone, so I don't have all the
  details,
  but I would be happy for some pointers if anyone has them
 
  The machine with mostly up to date debian unstable on occasion decides to
  lock
  up for several minutes after or at the point of mounting the swap
  partition.
 
  Previous time that happened starting a different kernel solved the problem.
  This time all kernels showed the same issue, we though that it was in a
  hard
  lockup, but after several minutes it freed up and continued booting.
 
  We tried running swapoff -a, mkswap and swapon -a. On the call to swapon
  the
  machine complained about not finding the swap's UUID (which didn't match
  the
  value reported by mkswap). The only information in /etc/fstab regarding
  UUID is
  commented out.
 
  Any ideas about what the problem is and/or how to disable UUIDs altogether
  as
  they seem to be giving constant trouble?
 
  thanks
 
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Re: Problem at startup - lockup loading swap

2010-09-12 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:13:38 +0200
geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Sep 12, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Micha wrote:
 
 
  We tried running swapoff -a, mkswap and swapon -a. On the call to  
  swapon the
  machine complained about not finding the swap's UUID (which didn't  
  match the
  value reported by mkswap). The only information in /etc/fstab  
  regarding UUID is
  commented out.
 
 That's what is causing the UUID problem. You deleted the swap  
 partition and reformated it.
 

Yes, but why is it looking for it by UUID and how do I disable it?

 You have to remove or reconfigure the sleep to swap program, uswsusp.
 

I think I killed it when I installed his machine a long time ago, I don't like
uswsusp, but I'll check. How is it related to swapon complaining about UUID
though?

 
  Any ideas about what the problem is and/or how to disable UUIDs  
  altogether as
  they seem to be giving constant trouble?
 
 
 I think you are barking up the wrong tree. It's probably not a swap  
 problem, you are assuming it's one because that's the last message you  
 got.
 

It was just to make sure, I was thinking a different place as well, but the
complaint about UUID left a suspicion that I'm trying to remove. Considering
UUID gave me nothing but trouble on multiple computers anyway I'd rather remove
any dependency on them in any case.

 Geoff.
 

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Re: Problem at startup - lockup loading swap

2010-09-12 Thread geoffrey mendelson


On Sep 12, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Micha Feigin wrote:

I think I killed it when I installed his machine a long time ago, I  
don't like
uswsusp, but I'll check. How is it related to swapon complaining  
about UUID

though?



It's not. Uswsusp will complain about the swap file not having the  
correct name, and AFIK can't be told to go on without it.


The message appears after the swapon, and are easily confused as being  
related.


Is swap defined in the grub menu or in a file on the intial ram disk?  
That's why I pointed to uswsusp, it saves a pointer to the swap file  
in the intial ramdisk image.


You have to dpkg-reconfigure it if you change swap files.

Geoff.

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Re: Problem at startup - lockup loading swap

2010-09-12 Thread Tom Goren
ok - so edit fstab

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:

 On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:01:14 +0200
 Tom Goren t...@tomgoren.com wrote:

  use the appropriate /dev/sdaX entry instead of the UUID - something may
 be
  messed up with the hash - especially if you have done mkswap already.
 

 It worked for swapon /dev/sda5 but I need to change the default boot
 process to
 use that as well.

 
 
  On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Micha mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
 
   I'm trying to help a friend over the phone, so I don't have all the
   details,
   but I would be happy for some pointers if anyone has them
  
   The machine with mostly up to date debian unstable on occasion decides
 to
   lock
   up for several minutes after or at the point of mounting the swap
   partition.
  
   Previous time that happened starting a different kernel solved the
 problem.
   This time all kernels showed the same issue, we though that it was in a
   hard
   lockup, but after several minutes it freed up and continued booting.
  
   We tried running swapoff -a, mkswap and swapon -a. On the call to
 swapon
   the
   machine complained about not finding the swap's UUID (which didn't
 match
   the
   value reported by mkswap). The only information in /etc/fstab regarding
   UUID is
   commented out.
  
   Any ideas about what the problem is and/or how to disable UUIDs
 altogether
   as
   they seem to be giving constant trouble?
  
   thanks
  
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