Re: Hardware Database
How about contributing to Hamakor's effort, which is in Hebrew and Israel specific, regarding vendors and services: http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/index.php/%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%99_%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA Regarding Hebrew installation guides, I agree that Israeli FOSS lovers do not have the workforce to keep it up to date. And when they do, there are so many more important things to do. And fun. On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hello, > > It would've been nice to start a website where people could refer to to > find out all the practical issues of installing / using FLOSS in Israel: > > * A hardware DB where they can look up a device by category (i.e. > Motherboard) and check the compatibility sorted by distro etc. > > * A list of Israeli Linux friendly vendors (including vendors outside > Israel that are willing to ship their products to Israel hustle free). > > * Distro specific Installation Guides, pointing out any common pitfalls. > > Such sites might exist out there in the Net, but none of them are Israeli > specific or in Hebrew and don't hold all the a fore mentioned features in > one place... > Another plus is the fact that the content will be socially contributed - > by the users themselves. > > What do you think? > > Amichai Rotman > Penguin - FLOSS Computer Service and Technical Consulting > +972-73-7962360 || +972-54-4605787 > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hardware Database
On 2012-12-27 15:05, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hello, It would've been nice to start a website where people could refer to to find out all the practical issues of installing / using FLOSS in Israel: As I see it, the problem is maintaining the site, not the initialization of it. Are crowd is small, the world is big, English wise. * A hardware DB where they can look up a device by category (i.e. Motherboard) and check the compatibility sorted by distro etc. Google it, coping vendor specifications to the site is probably, not the idea, and if there are no vendor specifications are are site will have less then the net. * A list of Israeli Linux friendly vendors (including vendors outside Israel that are willing to ship their products to Israel hustle free). There are one and a half Pre-installed Linux PC/Laptops ready for shipment. But, by the time one of us gets an experience of the ordeal, it will not be relevant to another. First two in http://linuxpreloaded.com ie. System76, ZaReason are the famous ones, don't know if and how it gets to IL, but even if I did it would probably not be relevant to the next guys' purchase. How often do we as a community do that? We would be better of just searching "Pre Installed Linux Desktop" & contacting one off the sites from http://linuxpreloaded.com. * Distro specific Installation Guides, pointing out any common pitfalls. There are tones of sites for that, sum in Hebrew, which I think is a shame because of the reasons above. Computer installations is English it would be better if all those sites would do only the Hebrew specific sitings & problem solving. Such sites might exist out there in the Net, Yep, we have a lot of redundancy, we do not need to duplicate the web. but none of them are Israeli specific or in Hebrew and don't hold all the a fore mentioned features in one place... Face it IT/SYSADMIN is in English. Another plus is the fact that the content will be socially contributed - by the users themselves. That will be nice. What do you think? See in line :-) Amichai Rotman Penguin - FLOSS Computer Service and Technical Consulting +972-73-7962360 || +972-54-4605787 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hardware Database
E.S. Rosenberg wrote: Call me old fashioned but why start yet another such database instead of contributing to existing efforts? Not only that, but it won't answer the original question. It will tell you that something did not work and when, but it does not tell that something WILL WORK today. The first reason is that it may not be granular enough, e.g. it may list a model but not a revision code or submodel (assuming the manufacturer changes them when they make changes). The second is there is not a single Linux distro that is 100% stable. Even the UBUNTU long term support versions and the RHEL/CENTOS equivalents make Kernel and driver changes. What you end up with is either "it did not work, but it might now", or "it did work, but it might not now" (the later being unlikely, but not imposible), which is pretty close to what we have now with our turbans and crystal balls. That's why I keep around some PCMCIA and USB wifi cards/dongles going back to around 2005, some old ethernet cards and a USB DVD drive. I also have a few modern 802.11N dongles and cellular modems with various chipsets, so I can get some network connectivity. I can install and upgrade a distro with a low res slow display or no mouse, but I can't work without networking. On the other hand, I am still looking for a $10 USB DVB-T tuner dongle with Liunux support. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 "Owning a smartphone: Technology's equivalent to learning to play chopsticks on the piano as a child and thinking you're a musician." (sent to me by a friend) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hardware Database
Call me old fashioned but why start yet another such database instead of contributing to existing efforts? 2012/12/27 Daniel Shahaf : > Amichai Rotman wrote on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 15:05:58 +0200: >> Hello, >> >> It would've been nice to start a website where people could refer to to >> find out all the practical issues of installing / using FLOSS in Israel: >> >> * A hardware DB where they can look up a device by category (i.e. >> Motherboard) and check the compatibility sorted by distro etc. >> >> * A list of Israeli Linux friendly vendors (including vendors outside >> Israel that are willing to ship their products to Israel hustle free). >> >> * Distro specific Installation Guides, pointing out any common pitfalls. >> >> Such sites might exist out there in the Net, but none of them are Israeli >> specific or in Hebrew and don't hold all the a fore mentioned features in >> one place... >> Another plus is the fact that the content will be socially contributed - by >> the users themselves. >> >> What do you think? >> > > I don't need installation guides, but a hardware/vendor DB I would find > useful. > >> Amichai Rotman >> Penguin - FLOSS Computer Service and Technical Consulting >> +972-73-7962360 || +972-54-4605787 > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hardware Database
Seems like a great idea to me. On 12/27/2012 05:05 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hello, It would've been nice to start a website where people could refer to to find out all the practical issues of installing / using FLOSS in Israel: * A hardware DB where they can look up a device by category (i.e. Motherboard) and check the compatibility sorted by distro etc. * A list of Israeli Linux friendly vendors (including vendors outside Israel that are willing to ship their products to Israel hustle free). * Distro specific Installation Guides, pointing out any common pitfalls. Such sites might exist out there in the Net, but none of them are Israeli specific or in Hebrew and don't hold all the a fore mentioned features in one place... Another plus is the fact that the content will be socially contributed - by the users themselves. What do you think? Amichai Rotman Penguin - FLOSS Computer Service and Technical Consulting +972-73-7962360 || +972-54-4605787 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hardware Database
Amichai Rotman wrote on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 15:05:58 +0200: > Hello, > > It would've been nice to start a website where people could refer to to > find out all the practical issues of installing / using FLOSS in Israel: > > * A hardware DB where they can look up a device by category (i.e. > Motherboard) and check the compatibility sorted by distro etc. > > * A list of Israeli Linux friendly vendors (including vendors outside > Israel that are willing to ship their products to Israel hustle free). > > * Distro specific Installation Guides, pointing out any common pitfalls. > > Such sites might exist out there in the Net, but none of them are Israeli > specific or in Hebrew and don't hold all the a fore mentioned features in > one place... > Another plus is the fact that the content will be socially contributed - by > the users themselves. > > What do you think? > I don't need installation guides, but a hardware/vendor DB I would find useful. > Amichai Rotman > Penguin - FLOSS Computer Service and Technical Consulting > +972-73-7962360 || +972-54-4605787 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
