Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-11 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/01/2005, at 12:13, Ely Levy wrote:
Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?
The translation was done by tkos. As far as I know, it does not use the 
official mechon hatekanim Hebrew, as it was that understandable.

But you should ask in the Hebrew OpenOffice mailing list, to get an 
more authoritative answer:
http://openoffice.org.il/mailman/listinfo/hebrew

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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-11 Thread Ely Levy
Like any other word in hebrew you send it to the academy or to the special
commity for computer terms.
I suggest long ago to try to orginize a dictionary that the open source
would work together with the academy to do open dictionary, I did get
someone from the acedemy intrested but no one seemed to have the time to
help out from the community. Instead they offered me the carmel project
at www.free-hebrew.org a nice lesson how to make your own language and
make sure no one would understand opensource terms

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Arnon Klein wrote:

 How does one go about putting new entries into that?

 Arnon

 Ely Levy wrote:

 The Hod Ami dictionary is based on the cooperation between Machon hatkanim
 and the academy, I think there is also a version on line in the academy
 site but I couldn't find it.
 
 Ely Levy
 System group
 Hebrew University
 Jerusalem Israel
 
 
 
 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 
 better for Hebrew users:
 
 
 Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
 Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?
 
 
 Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
 authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
 about this standard?
 Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?
 
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-11 Thread Ely Levy
They seem to use more than just the hod ami dictionary,
it's a huge blend of things, which I wouldn't mind if they put lable what
was taken from where.
for example write directory in the search.
(Yea my favorite test word;)

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Uri Bruck wrote:



 The Hod Ami dictionary is online at the John Bryce site:
 http://www.johnbryce.co.il/milon/index.asp
 Ely Levy wrote:
  The Hod Ami dictionary is based on the cooperation between Machon hatkanim
  and the academy, I think there is also a version on line in the academy
  site but I couldn't find it.
 
  Ely Levy
  System group
  Hebrew University
  Jerusalem Israel
 
 
 
  On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 
 better for Hebrew users:
 
 Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
 Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?
 
 Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
 authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
 about this standard?
 Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?
 
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-11 Thread Arnon Klein
I actually tried that - but the academy replied they were not interested 
in adding the word I suggested...
(It's a Hebrew translation for the English verb to refactor, and the 
noun refactoring)

Ely Levy wrote:
Like any other word in hebrew you send it to the academy or to the special
commity for computer terms.
I suggest long ago to try to orginize a dictionary that the open source
would work together with the academy to do open dictionary, I did get
someone from the acedemy intrested but no one seemed to have the time to
help out from the community. Instead they offered me the carmel project
at www.free-hebrew.org a nice lesson how to make your own language and
make sure no one would understand opensource terms
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Arnon Klein wrote:
 

How does one go about putting new entries into that?
Arnon
Ely Levy wrote:
   

The Hod Ami dictionary is based on the cooperation between Machon hatkanim
and the academy, I think there is also a version on line in the academy
site but I couldn't find it.
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Nadav Har'El wrote:

 

On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for 
Hebrew users:
   

Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?
 

Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
about this standard?
Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-11 Thread Uri Bruck
It could use some editing and more citations.
Ely Levy wrote:
They seem to use more than just the hod ami dictionary,
it's a huge blend of things, which I wouldn't mind if they put lable what
was taken from where.
for example write directory in the search.
(Yea my favorite test word;)
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Uri Bruck wrote:

The Hod Ami dictionary is online at the John Bryce site:
http://www.johnbryce.co.il/milon/index.asp
Ely Levy wrote:
The Hod Ami dictionary is based on the cooperation between Machon hatkanim
and the academy, I think there is also a version on line in the academy
site but I couldn't find it.
Ely Levy

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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-10 Thread Ely Levy
Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?


Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Shoshannah Forbes wrote:

   On 09/01/2005, at 17:33, Omer Zak wrote:

  One bug, which I didn't see in Shoshannah's list is that when exporting
  an Impress presentation in Hebrew to PDF file, the parentheses come out
  reversed.

 That bug is being worked on, and should be fixed by 2.0
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better 
for Hebrew users:
 Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
 Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?

Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
about this standard?
Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?

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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-10 Thread Uri Bruck
Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for 
Hebrew users:
Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?

Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
about this standard?
Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?
The Hod Ami computer terminology dictionary was published in cooperation 
with
Machon Hatkanim - perhaps that is what Ely is refering to.


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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-10 Thread Ely Levy
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Uri Bruck wrote:

 Nadav Har'El wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 
  better for Hebrew users:
 
 Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
 Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?
 
 
  Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
  authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
  about this standard?
  Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?

 The Hod Ami computer terminology dictionary was published in cooperation
 with
 Machon Hatkanim - perhaps that is what Ely is refering to.


Yea, that's exactly what he ment:)

Ely

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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-10 Thread Ely Levy
The Hod Ami dictionary is based on the cooperation between Machon hatkanim
and the academy, I think there is also a version on line in the academy
site but I couldn't find it.

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Nadav Har'El wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 
 better for Hebrew users:
  Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
  Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?

 Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
 authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
 about this standard?
 Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?

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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-10 Thread Arnon Klein
How does one go about putting new entries into that?
Arnon
Ely Levy wrote:
The Hod Ami dictionary is based on the cooperation between Machon hatkanim
and the academy, I think there is also a version on line in the academy
site but I couldn't find it.
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 

On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users:
   

Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?
 

Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
about this standard?
Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-10 Thread Uri Bruck

The Hod Ami dictionary is online at the John Bryce site:
http://www.johnbryce.co.il/milon/index.asp
Ely Levy wrote:
The Hod Ami dictionary is based on the cooperation between Machon hatkanim
and the academy, I think there is also a version on line in the academy
site but I couldn't find it.
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Nadav Har'El wrote:

On Mon, Jan 10, 2005, Ely Levy wrote about Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for 
Hebrew users:
Talking about openoffice, anyone know how is it translated?
Does it use the official machon hatkanim hebrew?
Ely, what is Machon Hatkanim Hebrew? Since when is Machon Hatkanim an
authority on the Hebrew language? Can you point us to a site or something
about this standard?
Or do you perhaps refer to the Academy of the Hebrew Language?
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-09 Thread Arik Baratz
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:30:25 +0200, Shoshannah Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
 I have complied a list of the most important of these bugs, and I would
 be glad if people take the time, sign up to the bug tracking system,
 and vote for them:
 http://www.xslf.com/archives/000122.html

I just did it, and I must say that the OOO registration process is
super-easy, and so is the voting. Registration and voting takes
literally 5 minutes of your time.

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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-09 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 17:21 +0200, Arik Baratz wrote:
 On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:30:25 +0200, Shoshannah Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 [snip]
  I have complied a list of the most important of these bugs, and I would
  be glad if people take the time, sign up to the bug tracking system,
  and vote for them:
  http://www.xslf.com/archives/000122.html
 
 I just did it, and I must say that the OOO registration process is
 super-easy, and so is the voting. Registration and voting takes
 literally 5 minutes of your time.

Ditto.
My only complaint was that Shoshannah listed 8 bugs and I could only
cast 5 votes.  So I had to prioritize bugs.

One bug, which I didn't see in Shoshannah's list is that when exporting
an Impress presentation in Hebrew to PDF file, the parentheses come out
reversed.

Can someone check if it still exists in the most recent version of
OpenOffice (1.9.*)?
 --- Omer

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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-09 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
 On 09/01/2005, at 17:33, Omer Zak wrote:
One bug, which I didn't see in Shoshannah's list is that when exporting
an Impress presentation in Hebrew to PDF file, the parentheses come out
reversed.
That bug is being worked on, and should be fixed by 2.0
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-09 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Shoshannah Forbes wrote:
On 09/01/2005, at 19:51, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
There are also many Arab mailing lists, did you contact them?
I am sure we share most of the bugs. Arabeyes for example have a good 
lets
make noise system, it's a good idea to use it.
:)

I am shameful to say that I don't really know the Arab lists :-(
Can you point me to the best ones for this in your opinion?
Sure, if I may be a little rude, they are much more organized then us in 
this subject.

http://arabeyes.org/
..and in particular this one:
http://www.arabeyes.org/project.php?proj=OpenOfficePHPSESSID=fad65a585745911e3211c8b3e416892e
(They even have a nightly build of OOo, you will love to hear how they 
got it...)

The mailing list you are looking for is: DOC
http://lists.arabeyes.org/mailman/listinfo/doc

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re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-09 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 09/01/2005, at 19:51, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
There are also many Arab mailing lists, did you contact them?
I am sure we share most of the bugs. Arabeyes for example have a good 
lets
make noise system, it's a good idea to use it.
:)
I am shameful to say that I don't really know the Arab lists :-(
Can you point me to the best ones for this in your opinion?
Thanks!
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Re: Help make OpenOffice 2.0 better for Hebrew users

2005-01-09 Thread Orna Agmon
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Omer Zak wrote:

 Ditto.
 My only complaint was that Shoshannah listed 8 bugs and I could only
 cast 5 votes.  So I had to prioritize bugs.


Note that you can also cast more than one vote per bug (up to 2).

This is relevant especially regarding bugs (the strategic bug)
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=30631
and the annoying CLM david bug
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37911
which compete with no other bug on Shoshana's list.

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