Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
Regarding the palm, you can still use the command line programs pilot-xfer and memos to sync with it, so you are not dependent on whether any GUI manager support it or not. I was myself using a palm up to about two weeks ago when I got the near ultimate PDA/portable computer/Phone, the Nokia N900. The N900 certainly fullfills all your requirements, except for the price, as it is not cheap. Though not Hebrew localized, the applications, the software and the hardware keyboards have full Hebrew support. I just wrote my first home desktop widget last night, a Hebrew calender, in Python/Gtk. It is laughably trivial. Regards, Dov On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 13:05, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:13:07 +0200 > geoffrey mendelson wrote: > > > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > > > > > How will he get Hebrew support for the iPhone? How will he sync it > > > with > > > Linux? Also he didn't specifically ask for this, but I know when I had > > > a Palm Pilot, one of the things I often did was to transfer *text > > > files* > > > from the computer to the Palm Pilot - that's another thing you can't > > > do > > > on an iPhone. > > > > iPhones have become so common that you can (at least here in > > Jerusalem), go to the local shopping mall and have it taken care of, > > If you want to do it yourself there are hundreds of websites and > > YouTube videos dedicated to doing it and until they became available > > from Israeli carriers, it was a frequently asked (and answered) > > question on the Israel Mac user's Yahoo list. > > > > I'm sure there were also several Hebrew lists and many websites > > dedicated to bringing in an iPhone from overseas, but I would not know. > > > > Geoff. > > > > If you go that way, make sure to go here > blackra1n.com/ > > free and ridiculously easy to apply (connect the iphone/ipod touch and > press > the button ...). Every commercial solution out there uses this one, either > shops or software. > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:13:07 +0200 geoffrey mendelson wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > > > How will he get Hebrew support for the iPhone? How will he sync it > > with > > Linux? Also he didn't specifically ask for this, but I know when I had > > a Palm Pilot, one of the things I often did was to transfer *text > > files* > > from the computer to the Palm Pilot - that's another thing you can't > > do > > on an iPhone. > > iPhones have become so common that you can (at least here in > Jerusalem), go to the local shopping mall and have it taken care of, > If you want to do it yourself there are hundreds of websites and > YouTube videos dedicated to doing it and until they became available > from Israeli carriers, it was a frequently asked (and answered) > question on the Israel Mac user's Yahoo list. > > I'm sure there were also several Hebrew lists and many websites > dedicated to bringing in an iPhone from overseas, but I would not know. > > Geoff. > If you go that way, make sure to go here blackra1n.com/ free and ridiculously easy to apply (connect the iphone/ipod touch and press the button ...). Every commercial solution out there uses this one, either shops or software. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:22:58 +0200 "Nadav Har'El" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: Recommendations for > Inexpensive PDA": > > On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > > > > >So, I am in the market for a replacement. I really want the minimum > > >possible - calendar, phone book, etc. I need Hebrew support, and I > > >want to > > >sync with Kontact's calendar, contacts, etc. > >... > > > > iPhone? If you get an older one that is still locked to AT&T, it > > should be relatively cheap. > > > > Everyone I know who has one loves it as a PDA/media player/pocket PC. > > How will he get Hebrew support for the iPhone? Version 3.1.2 has native hebrew support > How will he sync it with Linux? I have to admit that I'd like to know that > Also he didn't specifically ask for this, but I know when I had > a Palm Pilot, one of the things I often did was to transfer *text files* > from the computer to the Palm Pilot - that's another thing you can't do > on an iPhone. > You don't need to jailbreak it, you have for example quickoffice (has limited word/excel/text write support) which costs 8$ and can read pdf, word, excel and text files. reading pdf with hebrew works great, word + hebrew is usually bad. you also have file app which is read only but also supports images and is free. Both can setup a server for uploading/downloading files. I'm sure that there are more. > Or, did you mean he is supposed to "jail break" the iPhone to be of any > use? > You need to jailbreak it if you want to unlock it or to use it for ssh and a few other things, but it's quite useful also not jailbroken. BTW, I use an ipod touch 1st gen as a PDA and it's quite nice. I would opt for a second gen though so that you can connect a mic for skype calls, with the 1st gen you can only hear and text. Note that 3rd gen ipod touch jailbreak requires rerunning the jailbreak every boot so you are better off with a 2nd gen ipod touch if you want to jailbreak or an iphone (3g-s is nice, also has a gps ...) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Wednesday 27 January 2010, Omer Zak wrote: > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 20:22 +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > So, iPhone doesn't seem like a great solution for me. Any other > > suggestions? What are other people using as a PDA ? > > Would it be too naive to assume that today's (and even yesterday's) > smartphones qualify as PDAs? Do they sync with linux (KDE) ? Is there such a thing as an inexpensive one ? - even an old one ? - I'm used to paying less than $50 for a nice used Palm Pilot that does everything I need. > As for me, I use Nokia E71 after having been spoiled for several years > by Nokia 9210i's keyboard. > > --- Omer > -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 20:22 +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > So, iPhone doesn't seem like a great solution for me. Any other > suggestions? What are other people using as a PDA ? Would it be too naive to assume that today's (and even yesterday's) smartphones qualify as PDAs? As for me, I use Nokia E71 after having been spoiled for several years by Nokia 9210i's keyboard. --- Omer -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Wednesday 27 January 2010, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA": > > On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > >So, I am in the market for a replacement. I really want the minimum > > >possible - calendar, phone book, etc. I need Hebrew support, and I > > >want to > > >sync with Kontact's calendar, contacts, etc. > > > >... > > > > iPhone? If you get an older one that is still locked to AT&T, it > > should be relatively cheap. > > > > Everyone I know who has one loves it as a PDA/media player/pocket PC. > > How will he get Hebrew support for the iPhone? How will he sync it with > Linux? Also he didn't specifically ask for this, but I know when I had > a Palm Pilot, one of the things I often did was to transfer *text files* > from the computer to the Palm Pilot - that's another thing you can't do > on an iPhone. > > Or, did you mean he is supposed to "jail break" the iPhone to be of any > use? > So, iPhone doesn't seem like a great solution for me. Any other suggestions? What are other people using as a PDA ? -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Nadav Har'El wrote: How will he get Hebrew support for the iPhone? How will he sync it with Linux? Also he didn't specifically ask for this, but I know when I had a Palm Pilot, one of the things I often did was to transfer *text files* from the computer to the Palm Pilot - that's another thing you can't do on an iPhone. iPhones have become so common that you can (at least here in Jerusalem), go to the local shopping mall and have it taken care of, If you want to do it yourself there are hundreds of websites and YouTube videos dedicated to doing it and until they became available from Israeli carriers, it was a frequently asked (and answered) question on the Israel Mac user's Yahoo list. I'm sure there were also several Hebrew lists and many websites dedicated to bringing in an iPhone from overseas, but I would not know. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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On 27/01/2010, at 10:22, Nadav Har'El wrote: > Or, did you mean he is supposed to "jail break" the iPhone to be of any > use? This is true in any case if you want full PDA functionality. --sambo (iPhone 2G owner for a couple of years already) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA": > On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > > >So, I am in the market for a replacement. I really want the minimum > >possible - calendar, phone book, etc. I need Hebrew support, and I > >want to > >sync with Kontact's calendar, contacts, etc. >... > > iPhone? If you get an older one that is still locked to AT&T, it > should be relatively cheap. > > Everyone I know who has one loves it as a PDA/media player/pocket PC. How will he get Hebrew support for the iPhone? How will he sync it with Linux? Also he didn't specifically ask for this, but I know when I had a Palm Pilot, one of the things I often did was to transfer *text files* from the computer to the Palm Pilot - that's another thing you can't do on an iPhone. Or, did you mean he is supposed to "jail break" the iPhone to be of any use? -- Nadav Har'El| Wednesday, Jan 27 2010, 12 Shevat 5770 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Live as if you were to die tomorrow, http://nadav.harel.org.il |learn as if you were to live forever. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recommendations for Inexpensive PDA
On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: So, I am in the market for a replacement. I really want the minimum possible - calendar, phone book, etc. I need Hebrew support, and I want to sync with Kontact's calendar, contacts, etc. My hope is that someone will recommend something which I can pick up cheap on ebay. iPhone? If you get an older one that is still locked to AT&T, it should be relatively cheap. Everyone I know who has one loves it as a PDA/media player/pocket PC. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
