Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages
On Monday 24 July 2006 15:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: even FSF has a list of software packages (at http://directory.fsf.org/). Except I was never able to figure out what is this a list OF. It has only 4,300 enteries, so it cannot possibly presume to be complete. On the other hand, it contains some obviously (plughttp://directory.fsf.org/rsyncrypto.html/plug) non-GNU packages. It appears to be a list of whatever software happened to catch the FSF's fancy to be useful, under some unclear definition of useful. OK, here's what I know of the FSF/UNESCO directory ( http://directory.fsf.org/ ): 1. It is edited by a few editors (possibly even one) with some submissions from the public. 2. Sometimes the editors find a package themselves and add it there, after sending an email to the creator with clarifications. 3. It is exclusively about free software (according to the FSF definition) that is not dependant on non-free software. It should include Java programs that run on top of a free-as-in-speech Java implementation as well as Windows programs that can run on top of wine. Otherwise software of all free software licenses (copyleft, BSD-style, LGPL, GPL-compatible or not compatible with the GPL) is represented. 4. There's an LWN interview with the chief editor here: http://lwn.net/Articles/97521/ - Now Freshmeat.net is more active, has more projects, the feedback is much better, has more editors, etc. However, it contains some non-open-source software (not that I mind it too much) and restricts itself to software that can run on Linux (while still having some sections for themes, for OS X software, and for Palm). I also think that the source code of the site is not available for download, even though it was once upon a time. (Before VA Linux bought Andover.net). I also noticed that a few editorials have disappeared from it, at least after the switch to Freshmeat 2, along with all their comments. Some of my projects are in the FSF directory too, but not all. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ Chuck Norris wrote a complete Perl 6 implementation in a day but then destroyed all evidence with his bare hands, so no one will know his secrets. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages
Shlomi Fish wrote: 1. It is edited by a few editors (possibly even one) with some submissions from the public. 2. Sometimes the editors find a package themselves and add it there, after sending an email to the creator with clarifications. Which doesn't explain how rsyncrypto made it there. I didn't submit it to them myself, and was never contacted by them about it. Not that I mind, you see. Just pointing it out. can run on Linux No, it restricts itself to software that runs on Unix. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages
Omer Zak wrote: even FSF has a list of software packages (at http://directory.fsf.org/). Except I was never able to figure out what is this a list OF. It has only 4,300 enteries, so it cannot possibly presume to be complete. On the other hand, it contains some obviously (plughttp://directory.fsf.org/rsyncrypto.html/plug) non-GNU packages. It appears to be a list of whatever software happened to catch the FSF's fancy to be useful, under some unclear definition of useful. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages
On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 02:48:13PM +0300, Omer Zak wrote: I faced the need to find a list of packages of Fedora Core. snip http://fedoraproject.org/extras/5/i386/repodata/ Do note that this is a list of Fedora Extra, not of Fedora Core (but I guess you where indeed looking for the fancy stuff residing in Extra) BTW, the packages themselves are also available at http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/ (for Core package) http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/5/i386/ (for Extra packages) and various mirrors worldwide. -- Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 22:32 +0300, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 02:48:13PM +0300, Omer Zak wrote: I faced the need to find a list of packages of Fedora Core. snip http://fedoraproject.org/extras/5/i386/repodata/ Do note that this is a list of Fedora Extra, not of Fedora Core (but I guess you where indeed looking for the fancy stuff residing in Extra) Right, I looked for fancy stuff (such as C++ math libraries). (Before starting a distro flame war: I use Debian, and the lists of packages are for a friend, who is currently using RedHat 5.2, and I want to persuade him to switch to Debian for the new PC, which he plans to buy in the near future.) BTW, the packages themselves are also available at http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/ (for Core package) http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/5/i386/ (for Extra packages) and various mirrors worldwide. To be more precise: I needed a list, which includes also brief descriptions of the packages. --- Omer -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://tddpirate.livejournal.com/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Results of search for list of Fedora Core packages
Omer Zak wrote: I faced the need to find a list of packages of Fedora Core. Such a list is available for Debian (for example, at http://packages.debian.org/stable/) and even FSF has a list of software packages (at http://directory.fsf.org/). However, it was surprisingly difficult to find such a list. For future reference and for the peace of mind of future users of Fedora Core, here is the URL which I found, with all its glory: http://fedoraproject.org/extras/5/i386/repodata/ You can reach the above URL from the following Fedora Project Wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras I will continue to stick to Debian in the near future. --- Omer Try rpmseek. For Fedora: http://rpmseek.com/Distribution/FedoraCore/0/82/-.html?hl=com For other distros: http://rpmseek.com/ByDistribution.html Cheers -- Meir Kriheli http://mksoft.co.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
