Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
Quoting Amichai Rotman, from the post of Tue, 17 Feb: I didn't know it is possible to remove the U3 system and that is why I refrain from buying the Cruzer hardware. I don't use it or plan to use it, so I will follow Shahar's advice and remove the U3 system. the U3 controller is a cute concept, you can resize the partitions making the devices if you have access to the API but they are keeping that a secret. however the U3 software is lame. Lexar is not much better. (both are Israeli develpments, btw.) If the autoplay bothers you then do like me, just turn off the autoplay feature for all plugable devices (google for the right registry key) half a year ago I upgraded from a 4G Lexar to a 16G contour because they were the fastest around at the time I bought them, I also own two older 4G cruzer micros, which I now use for MP3 in my car, it has no problem ignoring the cd device and playing my podcasts and music just fine. also I have never encountered any GNU, Mac or Win machine that hated any of my DoKs. don't own an 8GB though, but 16GB is a-OK. -- For a freaky time call Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
It seems your machine recognizes the device. Could it be that a module for the actual file system is not loaded maybe? Hetz On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu 8.10 did not recognize it. Surprising as a disk-on-key should not have such issues. Especially one with a Penguin on the box! I searched a bit and found a couple of links, none of them really reassuring. Any idea what should I do? /var/messages got this: Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.060061] usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.193298] usb 5-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.194612] scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.197065] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 8.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.198271] scsi 3:0:0:1: CD-ROM SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 8.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.199906] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15682559 512-byte hardware sectors (8029 MB) Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.200830] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.203281] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15682559 512-byte hardware sectors (8029 MB) Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.204154] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.205040] sdb: sdb1 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.206527] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.207068] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.211289] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.212261] sr 3:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 5 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453139] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453150] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Sense Key : No Sense [current] Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453158] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Add. Sense: No additional sense information Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454385] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454390] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Sense Key : No Sense [current] Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454394] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Add. Sense: No additional sense information Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.455636] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK [... some more of these last 4 lines] regards Gabor ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
Interestingly on my desktop machine it did mount it the second time I tried. On my notebook I had to manually do it: mkdir /home/gabor/x sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/gabor/x/ Gabor On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: It seems your machine recognizes the device. Could it be that a module for the actual file system is not loaded maybe? Hetz On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu 8.10 did not recognize it. Surprising as a disk-on-key should not have such issues. Especially one with a Penguin on the box! I searched a bit and found a couple of links, none of them really reassuring. Any idea what should I do? /var/messages got this: Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.060061] usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.193298] usb 5-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.194612] scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.197065] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 8.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.198271] scsi 3:0:0:1: CD-ROM SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 8.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.199906] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15682559 512-byte hardware sectors (8029 MB) Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.200830] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.203281] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15682559 512-byte hardware sectors (8029 MB) Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.204154] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.205040] sdb: sdb1 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.206527] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.207068] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.211289] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.212261] sr 3:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 5 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453139] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453150] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Sense Key : No Sense [current] Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453158] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Add. Sense: No additional sense information Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454385] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454390] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Sense Key : No Sense [current] Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454394] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Add. Sense: No additional sense information Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.455636] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK [... some more of these last 4 lines] regards Gabor ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
Gabor Szabo wrote: I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu 8.10 did not recognize it. The messages suggest that it did. It assigned sdb to it. Why Ubuntu didn't auto mount it is an interesting question, but the drive was definitely detected. [... some more of these last 4 lines] At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your files. Fortunately, there is a solution. You can download the U3 removal tool from the sandisk web site and run it (Windows only, I'm afraid, but I managed to get it to work from Virtual box by connecting the DOK directly to the windows machine). Once removed, Linux starts treating the device as a normal Disk on Key as well. Much recommended. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your files. Fortunately, there is a solution. You can download the U3 removal tool from the sandisk web site and run it (Windows only, I'm afraid, but I managed to get it to work from Virtual box by connecting the DOK directly to the windows machine). Once removed, Linux starts treating the device as a normal Disk on Key as well. Much recommended. I second this. My 2 GB Sandisk Luzer would not mount reliably until I removed the U3. It seems that it was trying to mount itself as a CDROM with U3. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:14:02PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your files. Fortunately, there is a solution. You can download the U3 removal tool from the sandisk web site and run it (Windows only, I'm afraid, but I managed to get it to work from Virtual box by connecting the DOK directly to the windows machine). Once removed, Linux starts treating the device as a normal Disk on Key as well. Much recommended. Can you just mount the raw device and reformat it? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
Hi, On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:24, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu 8.10 did not recognize it. [...] Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.205040] sdb: sdb1 [...] If you have an entry for manual mount of /dev/sdb1 device in your /etc/fstab, then ubuntu would never automount the device. -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
Can you just mount the raw device and reformat it? It actually needs to be repartitioned! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:14:02PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your files. Fortunately, there is a solution. You can download the U3 removal tool from the sandisk web site and run it (Windows only, I'm afraid, but I managed to get it to work from Virtual box by connecting the DOK directly to the windows machine). Once removed, Linux starts treating the device as a normal Disk on Key as well. Much recommended. Can you just mount the raw device and reformat it? No, they did some fairly horrible tricks to make the thing appear as two devices - a disk on key and a CD rom containing the U3 software. Like I said, the problems we're having in Linux are nothing in comparison to the problems these disks cause on Windows, where they are supposed to run. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
No, they did some fairly horrible tricks to make the thing appear as two devices - a disk on key and a CD rom containing the U3 software. Like I said, the problems we're having in Linux are nothing in comparison to the problems these disks cause on Windows, where they are supposed to run. They were BSODing the machines in one of the Technion libraries at some point. I think that the computers were reimaged with XP Pro SP3 to fix it. On 733mHz PIII computers with 128 MB RAM! I have a screenshot of the My Computer dialog somewhere... -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux
Gabor, The solution is simple. I am guessing you've recently installed Ubuntu 8.10, so I bet you haven't installed the 'usbmount' package. Undo any changes you've made, reboot (just to be on the safe side) then install *usbmount* and try again. It worked for me as soon as I installed the packge - no need to restart or even to log out and log in again. I tried one of those DOKs by SanDisk with the U3 system and it just mounted two separate devices. I didn't know it is possible to remove the U3 system and that is why I refrain from buying the Cruzer hardware. I don't use it or plan to use it, so I will follow Shahar's advice and remove the U3 system. Good luck! .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:24, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu 8.10 did not recognize it. Surprising as a disk-on-key should not have such issues. Especially one with a Penguin on the box! I searched a bit and found a couple of links, none of them really reassuring. Any idea what should I do? /var/messages got this: Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.060061] usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.193298] usb 5-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 17 12:23:07 notebook kernel: [1373852.194612] scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.197065] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 8.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.198271] scsi 3:0:0:1: CD-ROM SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 8.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.199906] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15682559 512-byte hardware sectors (8029 MB) Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.200830] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.203281] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15682559 512-byte hardware sectors (8029 MB) Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.204154] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.205040] sdb: sdb1 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.206527] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.207068] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.211289] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.212261] sr 3:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 5 Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453139] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453150] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Sense Key : No Sense [current] Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.453158] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Add. Sense: No additional sense information Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454385] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454390] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Sense Key : No Sense [current] Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.454394] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Add. Sense: No additional sense information Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.455636] sr 3:0:0:1: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK [... some more of these last 4 lines] regards Gabor ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
