Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend

2005-07-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
strange - I sent 2 messages to the list, but only the 2nd one got througt - so 
here's the 1st one again.


On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
 On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
  OK. Let's start from the very beginning.
  First, start from a clean known state. Either after a reboot, or try to

 For completely unrelated reasons, re-booting is not an option today. I hope
 I'll be able to do the tests you recommended in a day or two and I'll let
 you know what happens - thanks.


On thinking it over again, and after a few more of my own experiments, I can't 
see how my problem will be solved by re-booting. After all, that's not really 
the LINUX way, is it :-)

I don't know what has changed, but with all the things I've tried, I'm now 
getting a /dev/pilot device when I plug in the Palm. But niether it or 
the /dev/ttyUSB* devices seem to be communicating with the Palm. Here's a bit 
of output.

Notice that at first there's no /dev/pilot and I have USB 0, 1, 4 and 5. Don't 
ask where 2 and 3 disappered to - I have no answer. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot
ls: /dev/pilot: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU*
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5



Now I plug in the Palm and look what **magically** happens. I get 
the /dev/pilot and USB 2 and 3 devices.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 12 Jul  7 23:06 /dev/pilot - /dev/ttyUSB3
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU*
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 2 Jul  7 23:06 /dev/ttyUSB2
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 3 Jul  7 23:06 /dev/ttyUSB3
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5



But when I try pilot-xfer on the 2 new devices (/dev/pilot is really just a 
link to /dev/ttyUSB3), nothing happens until I do Ctrl-Z.

BTW, it doesn't look like a permission problem because solomon is the owner 
and has read and write permission on the relevant devices.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/pilot -l


   Listening to port: /dev/pilot

   Please press the HotSync button now...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyUSB4 -l


   Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB4

   Please press the HotSync button now...

Then I look at the devices again:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU*
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 2 Jul  7 23:09 /dev/ttyUSB2
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 3 Jul  7 23:09 /dev/ttyUSB3
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5


And again after Hotsync times out - 2 and 3 are gone again.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU*
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul  6 00:16 /dev/ttyUSB1
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 4 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB4
crw-rw  1 solomon uucp 188, 5 Jul  6 05:31 /dev/ttyUSB5


Here's what syslog looks like (I've edited out irrelevant stuff - mostly TCP 
Rejects from the Firewall):

Jul  7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 31
Jul  7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB6: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB6
Jul  7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB7: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB7
Jul  7 23:08:51 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 32
Jul  7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB2
Jul  7 23:09:06 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB3

snip

Jul  7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 32
Jul  7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2
Jul  7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3
Jul  7 23:11:17 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected


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Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend

2005-07-07 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 12:02:12AM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
 strange - I sent 2 messages to the list, but only the 2nd one got througt - 
 so 
 here's the 1st one again.
 
 
 On Tuesday 05 July 2005 22:59, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
  On Tuesday 05 July 2005 19:52, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
   OK. Let's start from the very beginning.
   First, start from a clean known state. Either after a reboot, or try to
 
  For completely unrelated reasons, re-booting is not an option today. I hope
  I'll be able to do the tests you recommended in a day or two and I'll let
  you know what happens - thanks.
 
 
 On thinking it over again, and after a few more of my own experiments, I 
 can't 
 see how my problem will be solved by re-booting. After all, that's not really 
 the LINUX way, is it :-)

Can you at least rmmod visor and usb_serial (and modprobe them if
needed), then repeat the tests?
-- 
Didi


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Re: my new Palm Zire 72 - resend

2005-07-07 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 08 July 2005 00:38, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
 Can you at least rmmod visor and usb_serial (and modprobe them if
 needed), then repeat the tests?

Sorry, I forgot to write that I tried that and was not able to remove the 
modules. I didn't try --force because the man page says this is dangerous.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# rmmod visor
ERROR: Module visor is in use
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# rmmod usbserial
ERROR: Module usbserial is in use by visor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]# lsmod |grep visor
visor  16144  4
usbserial  25384  10 visor
usbcore   103172  10 
usb-storage,visor,usbserial,quickcam,usbmouse,usbhid,usblp,ohci-hcd

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