Re: ping problems

2009-05-27 Thread Aviv Greenberg
If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work?
If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after
a hang - is it released?
an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is
the MTU on the lan/wan?

Also, use a tool like mtr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute) to detect any packet
loss along the route.

2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com:
 hi

 i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat,
 related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc).

 if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok
 however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70 pings
 works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first 30-70)
 using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan
 interface but none come back.

 any idea ?
 erez.

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Re: ping problems

2009-05-27 Thread Erez D
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Aviv Greenberg avivg...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work?

a download i started before the ping continues even after the ping is dead


 If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after
 a hang - is it released?
 an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is
 the MTU on the lan/wan?

as you said, the ping packets are smaller then the mtu (and all are same
size)
also ping is connectionless, so it makes sense if the lost packets are
spread randomly
but not if in the beginning all pass and in the end all fail



 Also, use a tool like mtr
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_%28My_traceroute%29to
  detect any packet
 loss along the route.

mtr works from both router and lan
there is some packet lost on the closer servers, but none at the target
but it is the same for both router and lan.

thanks,
erez.



 2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com:
  hi
 
  i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat,
  related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc).
 
  if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok
  however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70
 pings
  works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first
 30-70)
  using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan
  interface but none come back.
 
  any idea ?
  erez.
 
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Re: ping problems

2009-05-27 Thread Aviv Greenberg
Try netstat -s to checks for errors/drops on the WAN interface.
Anything interesting?

If a ping from the router always succeeds, and after some time fails
from the lan AND during failure you see the packets go from the lan
out to the wan but doesn't come back at all - it sounds like something
is wrong with the outgoing ping request packet.

Did you see any difference between a goog ping and bad ping packets?

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:05, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Aviv Greenberg avivg...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you ping another destination during the hang - does it work?

 a download i started before the ping continues even after the ping is dead

 If you ifdown and ifup the interfaces (wan + lan) on the router after
 a hang - is it released?
 an icmp packet is short so i don't think this is the case but: what is
 the MTU on the lan/wan?

 as you said, the ping packets are smaller then the mtu (and all are same
 size)
 also ping is connectionless, so it makes sense if the lost packets are
 spread randomly
 but not if in the beginning all pass and in the end all fail


 Also, use a tool like mtr
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute) to detect any packet
 loss along the route.

 mtr works from both router and lan
 there is some packet lost on the closer servers, but none at the target
 but it is the same for both router and lan.

 thanks,
 erez.


 2009/5/27 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com:
  hi
 
  i have an openwrt (linux) router, with regular firewall rules (nat,
  related+established,clamp-mss-to-pmtu, etc).
 
  if i ping from the router to the internet, it works ok
  however if i ping from inside my lan to the internet, the first 30-70
  pings
  works, then it stops working (i.e. 100% packet lost after the first
  30-70)
  using tcpdump inside my router shows the icmps going through the wan
  interface but none come back.
 
  any idea ?
  erez.
 
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