Re: running 64 bit linux on the desktop

2007-12-26 Thread Tom Rosenfeld
Hi Gilboa,
I am not sure what you are saying different that what I suggested. See more
inline below...

On Dec 25, 2007 8:10 PM, Gilboa Davara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 22:07 +0200, Tom Rosenfeld wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I recently started working at a new firm that is using CentOS 4.5 64
  bit on the desktop.
 
  We were having trouble with some standard programs and we just
  realized that they are related to the 64 vs. 32 bit issues.
 
  For example the flash plugin to firefox installed fine, but would not
  work.

 CentOS (Like RHEL and Fedora) is dual-arch - it installs both the 32bit
 and 64bit versions of most applications.

I am using CentOS 4.5. As far as I see almost every app is 64 bits. There
are 64 bit libs installed in /usr/lib64 vs. the 32 bit ones in /usr/lib.



 You'll need to start the -32bit- version of firefox.
 In-order to do it, you'll have to install the firefox-32 package (yum
 install firefox-32) and start the 32bit firefox by using the firefox-32
 binary.


My yum does not find any package called firefox-32. I had to install it
manually with the tar from the firefox site. What repository can I find it
in that supports Centos/RHEL?


   The best workaround I have found is to install the 32 bit firefox
  instead and then all the plugins work fine.

 Yikes. Don't.

How is this different from your suggestion to install the 32 bit version via
yum?



  Is anyone out there having the same troubles? Any suggestions?

 You may have to use the 32bit versions of xine/mplayer to view certain
 Windows-only-encoders, but other then that, nope.
 
  Thanks,
  -tom

 - Gilboa


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Re: running 64 bit linux on the desktop

2007-12-26 Thread Gilboa Davara

On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 10:40 +0200, Tom Rosenfeld wrote:

 CentOS (Like RHEL and Fedora) is dual-arch - it installs both
 the 32bit
 and 64bit versions of most applications.

 I am using CentOS 4.5. As far as I see almost every app is 64 bits.
 There are 64 bit libs installed in /usr/lib64 vs. the 32 bit ones
 in /usr/lib. 
 
Sorry. My mistake. I though it was CentOS 5. (I somehow missed the 4.
part)
CentOS4.x is indeed a bigger problem. My bad.
(You may need to enable the i386 repositories and download the i386
RPMs.)
 
- Gilboa
 


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Re: running 64 bit linux on the desktop

2007-12-25 Thread Tom Rosenfeld
Yes I found the same plugin wrapper. It helps but does not seem to work all
the time.

I was having another problem with several 32 bit programs like ooffice (with
the default install) and acroread.

When I tried to run as a user authenticated thru LDAP (or NIS) I would get:

GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id

After a bit of searching I suspected the problem was that the libnss_ldap.so
lib was 64 bits and thus not accessible to these 32 bit programs. I then
installed the 32 bit versions via:

  # yum install nss_ldap.i386

So far it seems to have fixed the problem.

Thanks,
-tom

On Dec 25, 2007 8:24 AM, Dan Kenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 10:07:39PM +0200, Tom Rosenfeld wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I recently started working at a new firm that is using CentOS 4.5 64 bit
 on
  the desktop.
 
  We were having trouble with some standard programs and we just realized
 that
  they are related to the 64 vs. 32 bit issues.
 
  For example the flash plugin to firefox installed fine, but would not
 work.
  The best workaround I have found is to install the 32 bit firefox
 instead
  and then all the plugins work fine.

 In order to use 32 bit plugins on a 64 bit firefox you may try
 http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/nspluginwrapper . Works for me.

 --
 Dan Kenigsberg
 http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenhttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/%7Edanken  
  ICQ 162180901




-- 
-tom
054-244-8025


Re: running 64 bit linux on the desktop

2007-12-25 Thread Gilboa Davara

On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 22:07 +0200, Tom Rosenfeld wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I recently started working at a new firm that is using CentOS 4.5 64
 bit on the desktop.
 
 We were having trouble with some standard programs and we just
 realized that they are related to the 64 vs. 32 bit issues. 
 
 For example the flash plugin to firefox installed fine, but would not
 work.

CentOS (Like RHEL and Fedora) is dual-arch - it installs both the 32bit
and 64bit versions of most applications.

You'll need to start the -32bit- version of firefox.
In-order to do it, you'll have to install the firefox-32 package (yum
install firefox-32) and start the 32bit firefox by using the firefox-32
binary.

  The best workaround I have found is to install the 32 bit firefox
 instead and then all the plugins work fine.

Yikes. Don't.

 Is anyone out there having the same troubles? Any suggestions?

You may have to use the 32bit versions of xine/mplayer to view certain
Windows-only-encoders, but other then that, nope.
 
 Thanks,
 -tom

- Gilboa


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Re: running 64 bit linux on the desktop

2007-12-24 Thread Yuval Hager
On Monday 24 December 2007, Tom Rosenfeld wrote:
 Hi,

 I recently started working at a new firm that is using CentOS 4.5 64 bit on
 the desktop.

 We were having trouble with some standard programs and we just realized
 that they are related to the 64 vs. 32 bit issues.

 For example the flash plugin to firefox installed fine, but would not work.
 The best workaround I have found is to install the 32 bit firefox instead
 and then all the plugins work fine.

 We are also having trouble running some other apps like open office.
 Running as a local user works fine, but running as a user from found in the
 LDAP dir causes a startup error about permissions.

 Is anyone out there having the same troubles? Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
 -tom

Same like with firefox. Compile openoffice from source (http://go-oo.org), or 
use a 32bit openoffice package. I have used openoffice-bin in the past and am 
now using a the go-oo.org version. Both work fine, with slight preference to 
the latter.

--yuval


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Re: running 64 bit linux on the desktop

2007-12-24 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 10:07:39PM +0200, Tom Rosenfeld wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I recently started working at a new firm that is using CentOS 4.5 64 bit on
 the desktop.
 
 We were having trouble with some standard programs and we just realized that
 they are related to the 64 vs. 32 bit issues.
 
 For example the flash plugin to firefox installed fine, but would not work.
 The best workaround I have found is to install the 32 bit firefox instead
 and then all the plugins work fine.

In order to use 32 bit plugins on a 64 bit firefox you may try
http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/nspluginwrapper . Works for me.

-- 
Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901

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