Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-08-01 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:42:33 +0200,
Daniel Egger wrote:
> 
> On 29.07.2005, at 09:39, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> 
> > Note that most of lines are from new Sparc and ARM drivers. Other  
> > changes
> > are mostly small bugfixes, cleanups and new hardware ID additions.  
> > The all
> > changes goes through all ALSA developers (our CVS server sends us  
> > whole
> > diffs back), so all of them review/verify new code and can fix it  
> > ASAP. It
> > works quite well.
> 
> FWIW the current ALSA patch against 2.6.12 works much better than
> the original version for my Asus W3V with Intel HDA ALC880 in the sense
> that there's a possibility to prevent crashing the kernel when loading
> the module. However apart from the ID fixes this involves disabling the
> autodetection code and hardcoding the correct type in the realtek code.
> 
> As it stands the code seems to be really buggy and I'd love to test the
> driver after someone wiser than me in this area reviewed and fixed the
> code.

The oops was fixed by this update...


Takashi
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-08-01 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:42:33 +0200,
Daniel Egger wrote:
 
 On 29.07.2005, at 09:39, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
 
  Note that most of lines are from new Sparc and ARM drivers. Other  
  changes
  are mostly small bugfixes, cleanups and new hardware ID additions.  
  The all
  changes goes through all ALSA developers (our CVS server sends us  
  whole
  diffs back), so all of them review/verify new code and can fix it  
  ASAP. It
  works quite well.
 
 FWIW the current ALSA patch against 2.6.12 works much better than
 the original version for my Asus W3V with Intel HDA ALC880 in the sense
 that there's a possibility to prevent crashing the kernel when loading
 the module. However apart from the ID fixes this involves disabling the
 autodetection code and hardcoding the correct type in the realtek code.
 
 As it stands the code seems to be really buggy and I'd love to test the
 driver after someone wiser than me in this area reviewed and fixed the
 code.

The oops was fixed by this update...


Takashi
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-30 Thread Daniel Egger

On 29.07.2005, at 09:39, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:

Note that most of lines are from new Sparc and ARM drivers. Other  
changes
are mostly small bugfixes, cleanups and new hardware ID additions.  
The all
changes goes through all ALSA developers (our CVS server sends us  
whole
diffs back), so all of them review/verify new code and can fix it  
ASAP. It

works quite well.


FWIW the current ALSA patch against 2.6.12 works much better than
the original version for my Asus W3V with Intel HDA ALC880 in the sense
that there's a possibility to prevent crashing the kernel when loading
the module. However apart from the ID fixes this involves disabling the
autodetection code and hardcoding the correct type in the realtek code.

As it stands the code seems to be really buggy and I'd love to test the
driver after someone wiser than me in this area reviewed and fixed the
code.

Servus,
  Daniel



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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-30 Thread Daniel Egger

On 29.07.2005, at 09:39, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:

Note that most of lines are from new Sparc and ARM drivers. Other  
changes
are mostly small bugfixes, cleanups and new hardware ID additions.  
The all
changes goes through all ALSA developers (our CVS server sends us  
whole
diffs back), so all of them review/verify new code and can fix it  
ASAP. It

works quite well.


FWIW the current ALSA patch against 2.6.12 works much better than
the original version for my Asus W3V with Intel HDA ALC880 in the sense
that there's a possibility to prevent crashing the kernel when loading
the module. However apart from the ID fixes this involves disabling the
autodetection code and hardcoding the correct type in the realtek code.

As it stands the code seems to be really buggy and I'd love to test the
driver after someone wiser than me in this area reviewed and fixed the
code.

Servus,
  Daniel



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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-29 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:07:38 -0400,
Dave Jones wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 03:06:02PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> 
>  > > The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
>  > > master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
>  > > empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code 
> which
>  > > hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
>  > 
>  > Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
>  > audio oriented distro users), probably a lot more than run -mm, so it's
>  > not completely unreviewed.
> 
> There's a big difference between 'unreviewed' and 'untested'.
> With drivers that support n variants of a piece of hardware,
> hearing back that a driver works fine from someone isn't really
> worth anything if the changes break for all the other users
> of that driver that have a different variant, which haven't tested it yet.
> 
> We have a testing/review process in place, attempts to short-circuit
> it should be prevented. Especially from a subsystem that
> historically has had a number of issues wrt regressions each release.

Oh, I missed your talk in OLS ;)

Basically I agree with the argument above.  Some hardware-specific
regressions are very hard to find only from review.  The famous
problem with ThinkPad in the last update was such a kind.  More tests
in a bigger place like mm tree would be required, indeed.

Unfortunately, the sync between ALSA and mm tree didn't work well
because of troubles with git/cogito at this time.  The sync process
shall be improved from now on.  So, please consider this as an
exception.


Takashi
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-29 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Andrew Morton wrote:

> Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Linus, please do an update from:
> > 
> >rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
> > 
> > ...
> >   65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
> 
> The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
> master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
> empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
> hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
> 
> We need to become much better at this.

Yes, sure. I wanted to sync more early, but I had some trouble with 
cogito. Now things settled a bit, so I'll start with regular updates.

Note that most of lines are from new Sparc and ARM drivers. Other changes 
are mostly small bugfixes, cleanups and new hardware ID additions. The all 
changes goes through all ALSA developers (our CVS server sends us whole 
diffs back), so all of them review/verify new code and can fix it ASAP. It 
works quite well.

Jaroslav

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ALSA Project, SUSE Labs
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-29 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Andrew Morton wrote:

 Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Linus, please do an update from:
  
 rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
  
  ...
65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
 
 The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
 master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
 empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
 hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
 
 We need to become much better at this.

Yes, sure. I wanted to sync more early, but I had some trouble with 
cogito. Now things settled a bit, so I'll start with regular updates.

Note that most of lines are from new Sparc and ARM drivers. Other changes 
are mostly small bugfixes, cleanups and new hardware ID additions. The all 
changes goes through all ALSA developers (our CVS server sends us whole 
diffs back), so all of them review/verify new code and can fix it ASAP. It 
works quite well.

Jaroslav

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ALSA Project, SUSE Labs
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-29 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:07:38 -0400,
Dave Jones wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 03:06:02PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
 
The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code 
 which
hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
   
   Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
   audio oriented distro users), probably a lot more than run -mm, so it's
   not completely unreviewed.
 
 There's a big difference between 'unreviewed' and 'untested'.
 With drivers that support n variants of a piece of hardware,
 hearing back that a driver works fine from someone isn't really
 worth anything if the changes break for all the other users
 of that driver that have a different variant, which haven't tested it yet.
 
 We have a testing/review process in place, attempts to short-circuit
 it should be prevented. Especially from a subsystem that
 historically has had a number of issues wrt regressions each release.

Oh, I missed your talk in OLS ;)

Basically I agree with the argument above.  Some hardware-specific
regressions are very hard to find only from review.  The famous
problem with ThinkPad in the last update was such a kind.  More tests
in a bigger place like mm tree would be required, indeed.

Unfortunately, the sync between ALSA and mm tree didn't work well
because of troubles with git/cogito at this time.  The sync process
shall be improved from now on.  So, please consider this as an
exception.


Takashi
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Andrew Morton
Alistair John Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 28 Jul 2005 18:25, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Linus, please do an update from:
> > >
> > >rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
> > >
> > > ...
> > >   65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
> >
> > The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
> > master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
> > empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
> > hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
> 
> ~2800 lines of which is a new driver.
> 
> It'd be nice if ALSA's release schedule for "stable" versus "rc" could match 
> the kernel's. For example, 2.6.12 shipped with 1.0.9rc2.
> 
> Maybe "rc" ALSA should only be accepted in rc1, by rc4 you hope they can wrap 
> things up and give you a stable version number? Okay, generally in-tree 
> version numbers don't count for much, but I think ALSA is a big exception 
> because it's maintained pretty much out of tree.
> 
> Not so much of an issue this time around, but I don't think new drivers or 
> rewrites (even if they are reasonably separate) should be going in a late -rc 
> kernel.
> 

Independent of all that, there remains the problem that I was not obtaining
all this new code from
master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git.

Is there some different tree which I should be pulling from?
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Alistair John Strachan
On Thursday 28 Jul 2005 18:25, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Linus, please do an update from:
> >
> >rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
> >
> > ...
> >   65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
>
> The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
> master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
> empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
> hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.

~2800 lines of which is a new driver.

It'd be nice if ALSA's release schedule for "stable" versus "rc" could match 
the kernel's. For example, 2.6.12 shipped with 1.0.9rc2.

Maybe "rc" ALSA should only be accepted in rc1, by rc4 you hope they can wrap 
things up and give you a stable version number? Okay, generally in-tree 
version numbers don't count for much, but I think ALSA is a big exception 
because it's maintained pretty much out of tree.

Not so much of an issue this time around, but I don't think new drivers or 
rewrites (even if they are reasonably separate) should be going in a late -rc 
kernel.

Just my two pence.

-- 
Cheers,
Alistair.

'No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.'
Third year Computer Science undergraduate.
1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 03:06:02PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:

 > > The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
 > > master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
 > > empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
 > > hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
 > 
 > Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
 > audio oriented distro users), probably a lot more than run -mm, so it's
 > not completely unreviewed.

There's a big difference between 'unreviewed' and 'untested'.
With drivers that support n variants of a piece of hardware,
hearing back that a driver works fine from someone isn't really
worth anything if the changes break for all the other users
of that driver that have a different variant, which haven't tested it yet.

We have a testing/review process in place, attempts to short-circuit
it should be prevented. Especially from a subsystem that
historically has had a number of issues wrt regressions each release.

Dave

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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Andrew Morton
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 10:25 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Linus, please do an update from:
> > > 
> > >rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
> > > 
> > > ...
> > >   65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
> > 
> > The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
> > master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
> > empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
> > hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
> > 
> 
> Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
> audio oriented distro users),

In the past week?

> so it's not completely unreviewed.

tested != reviewed.
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 10:25 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Linus, please do an update from:
> > 
> >rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
> > 
> > ...
> >   65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
> 
> The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
> master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
> empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
> hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
> 

Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
audio oriented distro users), probably a lot more than run -mm, so it's
not completely unreviewed.

Lee

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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Andrew Morton
Jaroslav Kysela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Linus, please do an update from:
> 
>rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
> 
> ...
>   65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)

The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.

We need to become much better at this.
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[ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
Linus, please do an update from:

  rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git

The GNU patch is available at:

  ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/kernel-patches/alsa-git-2005-07-28.patch.gz

Additional notes:

  Mostly cleanups and added the Sparc DBRI driver.

The following files will be updated:

 sound/pcmcia/vx/vx_entry.c  |  375 ---
 sound/pcmcia/vx/vxp440.c|   14 
 Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt |   44 
 include/sound/core.h|   37 
 include/sound/driver.h  |2 
 include/sound/emu10k1.h |1 
 include/sound/version.h |4 
 sound/arm/Kconfig   |   14 
 sound/arm/Makefile  |8 
 sound/arm/pxa2xx-ac97.c |  410 +++
 sound/arm/pxa2xx-pcm.c  |  367 +++
 sound/arm/pxa2xx-pcm.h  |   29 
 sound/core/device.c |   15 
 sound/core/info.c   |5 
 sound/core/memalloc.c   |3 
 sound/core/memory.c |8 
 sound/core/seq/Makefile |2 
 sound/core/seq/instr/ainstr_gf1.c   |3 
 sound/core/seq/instr/ainstr_iw.c|8 
 sound/core/seq/seq_midi.c   |   16 
 sound/core/wrappers.c   |2 
 sound/drivers/vx/vx_uer.c   |   46 
 sound/i2c/other/ak4114.c|1 
 sound/isa/gus/gus_main.c|2 
 sound/isa/wavefront/wavefront_fx.c  |   34 
 sound/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c |   25 
 sound/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c |3 
 sound/pci/ali5451/ali5451.c |4 
 sound/pci/atiixp_modem.c|1 
 sound/pci/cmipci.c  |9 
 sound/pci/cs46xx/cs46xx_lib.c   |   15 
 sound/pci/emu10k1/emu10k1.c |   10 
 sound/pci/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.c|  133 -
 sound/pci/emu10k1/p16v.c|   20 
 sound/pci/ens1370.c |   22 
 sound/pci/es1968.c  |   14 
 sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.h   |3 
 sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c   |6 
 sound/pci/hda/patch_cmedia.c|5 
 sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c   |   28 
 sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c  |  810 +--
 sound/pci/intel8x0.c|   16 
 sound/pci/maestro3.c|   26 
 sound/pci/mixart/mixart.c   |4 
 sound/pci/rme9652/hdsp.c|   68 
 sound/pci/trident/trident_main.c|4 
 sound/pci/via82xx.c |   16 
 sound/pci/via82xx_modem.c   |   13 
 sound/pci/ymfpci/ymfpci_main.c  |6 
 sound/pcmcia/Kconfig|   15 
 sound/pcmcia/vx/Makefile|7 
 sound/pcmcia/vx/vxpocket.c  |  437 +++
 sound/pcmcia/vx/vxpocket.h  |   27 
 sound/ppc/awacs.c   |6 
 sound/ppc/pmac.h|5 
 sound/ppc/tumbler.c |   16 
 sound/sparc/Kconfig |   22 
 sound/sparc/Makefile|4 
 sound/sparc/dbri.c  | 2729 
 sound/usb/usbaudio.c|  105 
 sound/usb/usbaudio.h|   38 
 sound/usb/usbmidi.c |   21 
 sound/usb/usbquirks.h   |   29 
 sound/usb/usx2y/usX2Yhwdep.c|3 
 sound/usb/usx2y/usx2yhwdeppcm.c |6 
 65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)

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[ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Jaroslav Kysela
Linus, please do an update from:

  rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git

The GNU patch is available at:

  ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/kernel-patches/alsa-git-2005-07-28.patch.gz

Additional notes:

  Mostly cleanups and added the Sparc DBRI driver.

The following files will be updated:

 sound/pcmcia/vx/vx_entry.c  |  375 ---
 sound/pcmcia/vx/vxp440.c|   14 
 Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt |   44 
 include/sound/core.h|   37 
 include/sound/driver.h  |2 
 include/sound/emu10k1.h |1 
 include/sound/version.h |4 
 sound/arm/Kconfig   |   14 
 sound/arm/Makefile  |8 
 sound/arm/pxa2xx-ac97.c |  410 +++
 sound/arm/pxa2xx-pcm.c  |  367 +++
 sound/arm/pxa2xx-pcm.h  |   29 
 sound/core/device.c |   15 
 sound/core/info.c   |5 
 sound/core/memalloc.c   |3 
 sound/core/memory.c |8 
 sound/core/seq/Makefile |2 
 sound/core/seq/instr/ainstr_gf1.c   |3 
 sound/core/seq/instr/ainstr_iw.c|8 
 sound/core/seq/seq_midi.c   |   16 
 sound/core/wrappers.c   |2 
 sound/drivers/vx/vx_uer.c   |   46 
 sound/i2c/other/ak4114.c|1 
 sound/isa/gus/gus_main.c|2 
 sound/isa/wavefront/wavefront_fx.c  |   34 
 sound/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c |   25 
 sound/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c |3 
 sound/pci/ali5451/ali5451.c |4 
 sound/pci/atiixp_modem.c|1 
 sound/pci/cmipci.c  |9 
 sound/pci/cs46xx/cs46xx_lib.c   |   15 
 sound/pci/emu10k1/emu10k1.c |   10 
 sound/pci/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.c|  133 -
 sound/pci/emu10k1/p16v.c|   20 
 sound/pci/ens1370.c |   22 
 sound/pci/es1968.c  |   14 
 sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.h   |3 
 sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c   |6 
 sound/pci/hda/patch_cmedia.c|5 
 sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c   |   28 
 sound/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c  |  810 +--
 sound/pci/intel8x0.c|   16 
 sound/pci/maestro3.c|   26 
 sound/pci/mixart/mixart.c   |4 
 sound/pci/rme9652/hdsp.c|   68 
 sound/pci/trident/trident_main.c|4 
 sound/pci/via82xx.c |   16 
 sound/pci/via82xx_modem.c   |   13 
 sound/pci/ymfpci/ymfpci_main.c  |6 
 sound/pcmcia/Kconfig|   15 
 sound/pcmcia/vx/Makefile|7 
 sound/pcmcia/vx/vxpocket.c  |  437 +++
 sound/pcmcia/vx/vxpocket.h  |   27 
 sound/ppc/awacs.c   |6 
 sound/ppc/pmac.h|5 
 sound/ppc/tumbler.c |   16 
 sound/sparc/Kconfig |   22 
 sound/sparc/Makefile|4 
 sound/sparc/dbri.c  | 2729 
 sound/usb/usbaudio.c|  105 
 sound/usb/usbaudio.h|   38 
 sound/usb/usbmidi.c |   21 
 sound/usb/usbquirks.h   |   29 
 sound/usb/usx2y/usX2Yhwdep.c|3 
 sound/usb/usx2y/usx2yhwdeppcm.c |6 
 65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)

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ALSA Project, SUSE Labs
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Andrew Morton
Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Linus, please do an update from:
 
rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
 
 ...
   65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)

The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.

We need to become much better at this.
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 10:25 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
 Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Linus, please do an update from:
  
 rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
  
  ...
65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
 
 The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
 master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
 empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
 hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
 

Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
audio oriented distro users), probably a lot more than run -mm, so it's
not completely unreviewed.

Lee

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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Andrew Morton
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 10:25 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
  Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Linus, please do an update from:
   
  rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
   
   ...
 65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
  
  The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
  master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
  empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
  hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
  
 
 Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
 audio oriented distro users),

In the past week?

 so it's not completely unreviewed.

tested != reviewed.
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 03:06:02PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:

   The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
   master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
   empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
   hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
  
  Lots of people install ALSA independently from the kernel (like all the
  audio oriented distro users), probably a lot more than run -mm, so it's
  not completely unreviewed.

There's a big difference between 'unreviewed' and 'untested'.
With drivers that support n variants of a piece of hardware,
hearing back that a driver works fine from someone isn't really
worth anything if the changes break for all the other users
of that driver that have a different variant, which haven't tested it yet.

We have a testing/review process in place, attempts to short-circuit
it should be prevented. Especially from a subsystem that
historically has had a number of issues wrt regressions each release.

Dave

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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Alistair John Strachan
On Thursday 28 Jul 2005 18:25, Andrew Morton wrote:
 Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Linus, please do an update from:
 
 rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
 
  ...
65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)

 The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
 master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
 empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
 hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.

~2800 lines of which is a new driver.

It'd be nice if ALSA's release schedule for stable versus rc could match 
the kernel's. For example, 2.6.12 shipped with 1.0.9rc2.

Maybe rc ALSA should only be accepted in rc1, by rc4 you hope they can wrap 
things up and give you a stable version number? Okay, generally in-tree 
version numbers don't count for much, but I think ALSA is a big exception 
because it's maintained pretty much out of tree.

Not so much of an issue this time around, but I don't think new drivers or 
rewrites (even if they are reasonably separate) should be going in a late -rc 
kernel.

Just my two pence.

-- 
Cheers,
Alistair.

'No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.'
Third year Computer Science undergraduate.
1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.
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Re: [ALSA PATCH] 1.0.9b+

2005-07-28 Thread Andrew Morton
Alistair John Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 28 Jul 2005 18:25, Andrew Morton wrote:
  Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Linus, please do an update from:
  
  rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git
  
   ...
 65 files changed, 5059 insertions(+), 1122 deletions(-)
 
  The git-alsa.patch in -mm which I obtain from
  master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git is
  empty.  So we're now wanting to merge 4,000 lines of unreviewed code which
  hasn't been tested in -mm at approximately the -rc4 stage.
 
 ~2800 lines of which is a new driver.
 
 It'd be nice if ALSA's release schedule for stable versus rc could match 
 the kernel's. For example, 2.6.12 shipped with 1.0.9rc2.
 
 Maybe rc ALSA should only be accepted in rc1, by rc4 you hope they can wrap 
 things up and give you a stable version number? Okay, generally in-tree 
 version numbers don't count for much, but I think ALSA is a big exception 
 because it's maintained pretty much out of tree.
 
 Not so much of an issue this time around, but I don't think new drivers or 
 rewrites (even if they are reasonably separate) should be going in a late -rc 
 kernel.
 

Independent of all that, there remains the problem that I was not obtaining
all this new code from
master.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git.

Is there some different tree which I should be pulling from?
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