Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tuesday 24 November 2015 17:51:37 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/24, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 23 November 2015 15:13:52 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > IOW, anything with CPU implementer 0x56 part 0x581 should use those,
> > while part 0x584 can use the sdiv/udiv that it reports correctly.
> > 
> 
> It looks like we have some sort of function that mostly does
> this, except it doesn't differentiate on that lower bit for 1 vs
> 4. I guess I'll write another one for that.
> 
> static inline int cpu_is_pj4(void)
> {
> unsigned int id;
> 
> id = read_cpuid_id();
> if ((id & 0xff0fff00) == 0x560f5800)
> return 1;
> 
> return 0;
> }

Correct, thanks.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Stephen Boyd
On 11/24, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 23 November 2015 15:13:52 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > 
> > > - PJ4/PJ4B (not PJ4B-MP) has a different custom opcode for udiv and sdiv
> > >   in ARM mode. We don't support that with true multiplatform kernels
> > >   because those opcodes work nowhere else, though with your proposed
> > >   series we could easily do that for dynamic patching.
> > 
> > Do you have the information on these custom opcodes? I can work
> > that into the patches assuming the MIDR is different.
> 
> Thomas Petazzoni said this in a private mail:
> 
> | According to the datasheet, the PJ4B has integer signed and unsigned
> | divide, similar to the sdiv and udiv ARM instructions. But the way to
> | access it is by doing a MRC instruction.
> |
> |MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 4
> |
> |for PJ4B is the same as:
> |
> |SDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
> |
> | on ARM cores.
> |
> |And:
> |
> |MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 0
> |
> |for PJ4B is the same as:
> |
> |UDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
> |
> |on ARM cores.
> |
> |This is documented in the "Extended instructions" section of the
> |PJ4B datasheet.
> 
> I assume what he meant was that this is true for both PJ4 and PJ4B
> but not for PJ4B-MP, which has the normal udiv/sdiv instructions.
> 
> IOW, anything with CPU implementer 0x56 part 0x581 should use those,
> while part 0x584 can use the sdiv/udiv that it reports correctly.
> 

It looks like we have some sort of function that mostly does
this, except it doesn't differentiate on that lower bit for 1 vs
4. I guess I'll write another one for that.

static inline int cpu_is_pj4(void)
{
unsigned int id;

id = read_cpuid_id();
if ((id & 0xff0fff00) == 0x560f5800)
return 1;

return 0;
}

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tuesday 24 November 2015 20:35:16 Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> We'd need to do something similar for v7VE as well.  As we're getting
> more of this, I'd suggest we move to:
> 
> arch-v7a-y  =$(call 
> cc-option,-march=armv7-a,-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv7-a)
> arch-v7a-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)   =... whatever it was...
> arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7) =-D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(arch-v7a-y)
> arch-v6-y   =$(call cc-option,-march=armv6,-march=armv5t 
> -Wa$(comma)-march=armv6)
> arch-v6-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v6K) =$(call cc-option,-march=armv6k,-march=armv5t 
> -Wa$(comma)-march=armv6k)
> arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v6) =-D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=6 $(arch-v6-y)

I would argue that V7VE is different from V6K here: The instructions
that are added in V6K compared to V6 are not generated by gcc but
are typically used in assembly like

static inline unsigned long __xchg(unsigned long x, volatile void *ptr, int 
size)
{
...
#ifndef CONFIG_CPU_V6
asm volatile(...); /* v6k specific instruction */
#endif
}

while the logic in your example above would break normal v7 support when
both V7 and V7VE are enabled.

> > My understanding is that we want to support CPU_V7VE without
> > CPU_V7 enabled so that it uses the idiv instructions in that
> > configuration. When V7VE and V7 are both enabled, we should
> > degrade to the aeabi functions, and the same is true for when
> > V7VE is disabled.
> 
> Let me have another look at this, it's been a while since I touched these
> options...

There is one idea that I've had in the back of my mind for a long
while, and probably mentioned on the list before:

We could decide to simplify the CPU architecture selection for
multiplatform a lot if we turn the somewhat overengineered ARCH_MULTI_*
options into a choice statement, where each of them implies the
higher architecture levels. That way we can linearize
ARMv6/v6k/v7/v7VE/v8/v8.1 so that you just pick which platforms you
want to see by selecting the minimum level, and all higher ones will
automatically be available (for v8 and v8.1 that means just MACH_VIRT,
as we don't really want to run 32-bit kernels on bare metal v8-A
machines).

That way, we can have LPAE and -march=armv7ve support depend on
CONFIG_ARCH_MULTI_V7VE, which would imply that we don't support
CPU_V7 based platforms.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:07:30PM -0800, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> Ok. Presumably the order of arch-$(CONFIG) lines in the Makefile
> are done in an order to allow the build to degrade to the lowest
> common denominator among architecture support.

Correct.  Make processes the directives in the order listed in the
makefile, which means that a variable final value results from its
last assignment.

> CPU_V7 selects
> CPU_32v7 and we're using that config to select -march=armv7-a in
> the Makefile. The patch currently uses CPU_32v7VE to select
> -march=armv7ve. If CPU_V7VE selects CPU_V7 we'll never be able to
> use -march=armv7ve because CPU_V7 will be selecting CPU_32v7 and
> that will come after CPU_32v7VE in the Makefile.

Right, but look at how the V6K stuff is handled:

arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v6) =-D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=6 $(call 
cc-option,-march=armv6,-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv6)
# Only override the compiler option if ARMv6. The ARMv6K extensions are
# always available in ARMv7
ifeq ($(CONFIG_CPU_32v6),y)
arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v6K)=-D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=6 $(call 
cc-option,-march=armv6k,-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv6k)
endif

We'd need to do something similar for v7VE as well.  As we're getting
more of this, I'd suggest we move to:

arch-v7a-y  =$(call cc-option,-march=armv7-a,-march=armv5t 
-Wa$(comma)-march=armv7-a)
arch-v7a-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)   =... whatever it was...
arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7) =-D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(arch-v7a-y)
arch-v6-y   =$(call cc-option,-march=armv6,-march=armv5t 
-Wa$(comma)-march=armv6)
arch-v6-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v6K) =$(call cc-option,-march=armv6k,-march=armv5t 
-Wa$(comma)-march=armv6k)
arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v6) =-D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=6 $(arch-v6-y)

> My understanding is that we want to support CPU_V7VE without
> CPU_V7 enabled so that it uses the idiv instructions in that
> configuration. When V7VE and V7 are both enabled, we should
> degrade to the aeabi functions, and the same is true for when
> V7VE is disabled.

Let me have another look at this, it's been a while since I touched these
options...

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Stephen Boyd
On 11/24, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:53:49AM -0800, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > 
> > And adding CPU_V7VE causes a cascade of changes to wherever
> > CPU_V7 is being used today. Here's the patch I currently have,
> > without the platform changes:

> > @@ -1069,7 +1075,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_411920
> >  
> >  config ARM_ERRATA_430973
> > bool "ARM errata: Stale prediction on replaced interworking branch"
> > -   depends on CPU_V7
> > +   depends on CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE
> 
> NAK on all this.  The fact that you're having to add CPU_V7VE at all
> sites which have CPU_V7 shows that this is a totally broken way of
> approaching this.
> 
> Make CPU_V7VE be an _add-on_ to CPU_V7.  In other words, when CPU_V7VE
> is enabled, CPU_V7 should also be enabled, just like we do for CPU_V6K.
> 
> Note that v7M is different because that's not an add-on feature, it's
> a different CPU class from (what should be) v7A.
> 

Ok. Presumably the order of arch-$(CONFIG) lines in the Makefile
are done in an order to allow the build to degrade to the lowest
common denominator among architecture support. CPU_V7 selects
CPU_32v7 and we're using that config to select -march=armv7-a in
the Makefile. The patch currently uses CPU_32v7VE to select
-march=armv7ve. If CPU_V7VE selects CPU_V7 we'll never be able to
use -march=armv7ve because CPU_V7 will be selecting CPU_32v7 and
that will come after CPU_32v7VE in the Makefile.

My understanding is that we want to support CPU_V7VE without
CPU_V7 enabled so that it uses the idiv instructions in that
configuration. When V7VE and V7 are both enabled, we should
degrade to the aeabi functions, and the same is true for when
V7VE is disabled.

I suppose we can fix this by making CPU_V7 a hidden option? Or I
need some coffee because I'm missing something.

---8<
diff --git a/arch/arm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/Kconfig
index ccd0d5553d38..158ffb983387 100644
--- a/arch/arm/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/Kconfig
@@ -626,7 +626,7 @@ config ARCH_SHMOBILE_LEGACY
select ARCH_SHMOBILE
select ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT if MMU
select CLKDEV_LOOKUP
-   select CPU_V7
+   select CPU_V7_NOEXT
select GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS
select HAVE_ARM_SCU if SMP
select HAVE_ARM_TWD if SMP
@@ -802,7 +802,7 @@ config ARCH_MULTI_V7
bool "ARMv7 based platforms (Cortex-A, PJ4, Scorpion, Krait)"
default y
select ARCH_MULTI_V6_V7
-   select CPU_V7
+   select CPU_V7_NOEXT
select HAVE_SMP
 
 config ARCH_MULTI_V7VE
diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-prima2/Kconfig b/arch/arm/mach-prima2/Kconfig
index 9ab8932403e5..7e1b36400e14 100644
--- a/arch/arm/mach-prima2/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/mach-prima2/Kconfig
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ config ARCH_ATLAS7
bool "CSR SiRFSoC ATLAS7 ARM Cortex A7 Platform"
default y
select ARM_GIC
-   select CPU_V7
+   select CPU_V7_NOEXT
select HAVE_ARM_SCU if SMP
select HAVE_SMP
help
diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-realview/Kconfig b/arch/arm/mach-realview/Kconfig
index 565925f37dc5..7e084c34071c 100644
--- a/arch/arm/mach-realview/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/mach-realview/Kconfig
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ config MACH_REALVIEW_EB
 config REALVIEW_EB_A9MP
bool "Support Multicore Cortex-A9 Tile"
depends on MACH_REALVIEW_EB
-   select CPU_V7
+   select CPU_V7_NOEXT
select HAVE_ARM_SCU if SMP
select HAVE_ARM_TWD if SMP
select HAVE_SMP
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ config REALVIEW_PB1176_SECURE_FLASH
 config MACH_REALVIEW_PBA8
bool "Support RealView(R) Platform Baseboard for Cortex(tm)-A8 platform"
select ARM_GIC
-   select CPU_V7
+   select CPU_V7_NOEXT
select HAVE_PATA_PLATFORM
help
  Include support for the ARM(R) RealView Platform Baseboard for
diff --git a/arch/arm/mm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/mm/Kconfig
index e4ff161da98f..02a887235155 100644
--- a/arch/arm/mm/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/mm/Kconfig
@@ -350,11 +350,11 @@ config CPU_FEROCEON_OLD_ID
 config CPU_PJ4
bool
select ARM_THUMBEE
-   select CPU_V7
+   select CPU_V7_NOEXT
 
 config CPU_PJ4B
bool
-   select CPU_V7
+   select CPU_V7_NOEXT
 
 # ARMv6
 config CPU_V6
@@ -383,11 +383,9 @@ config CPU_V6K
select CPU_PABRT_V6
select CPU_TLB_V6 if MMU
 
-# ARMv7
 config CPU_V7
-   bool "Support ARM V7 processor" if (!ARCH_MULTIPLATFORM || 
ARCH_MULTI_V7) && (ARCH_INTEGRATOR || MACH_REALVIEW_EB || MACH_REALVIEW_PBX)
+   bool
select CPU_32v6K
-   select CPU_32v7
select CPU_ABRT_EV7
select CPU_CACHE_V7
select CPU_CACHE_VIPT
@@ -398,6 +396,12 @@ config CPU_V7
select CPU_PABRT_V7
select CPU_TLB_V7 if MMU
 
+# ARMv7
+config CPU_V7_NOEXT
+   bool "Support ARM V7 processor" if (!ARCH_MULTIPLATFORM || 
ARCH_MULTI_V7) && (ARCH_INTEGRATOR || MACH_REALVIEW_EB || MACH_REALVIEW_PBX)
+   select CPU_32v7
+   select CPU_V7
+
 # ARMv7M
 config CPU_V7M
bool
@

Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Måns Rullgård
Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:29:06PM +, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:10:02PM +, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> >> Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:38:53AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> >> >> I suggested using -mcpu=cortex-a15 because there are old gcc versions
>> >> >> that don't know about -march=armv7ve or -march=armv7-a+idiv yet, but
>> >> >> that do understand -mcpu=cortex-a15.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's not all.  The bigger problem is that there are toolchains out
>> >> > there which accept these options, but do _not_ support IDIV in either
>> >> > ARM or Thumb mode.  I'm afraid that makes it impossible to add this
>> >> > feature to the mainline kernel in this form: we need to run a test
>> >> > build to check that -march=armv7ve or what-not really does work
>> >> > through both GCC and GAS.
>> >> 
>> >> If the compiler accepts the option but doesn't actually emit any div
>> >> instructions, is there any real harm?
>> >
>> > That's not what I've found.  I've found that asking the assembler
>> > to accept idiv instructions appears to be ignored, which is something
>> > completely different.
>> >
>> > Further to this, what it comes down to is the stupid idea that the
>> > compiler should embed .arch / .cpu in the assembly output, which has
>> > the effect of overriding the command line arguments given to it via
>> > -Wa.  So, giving -Wa,-mcpu=cortex-a15 is a total no-op, because the
>> > first thing in the assembly output is:
>> >
>> >.arch armv7-a
>> >
>> > which kills off any attempt to set the assembly level ISA from the
>> > command line.
>> 
>> Oh, you mean the compiler knows about the instructions but the assembler
>> doesn't or isn't passed the right options.  It's infuriating when that
>> happens.
>
> No, that isn't what I meant.

Then what do you mean?  The compiler either emits the instructions or it
doesn't.  If it doesn't, what the assembler accepts is irrelevant.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:29:06PM +, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:10:02PM +, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> >> Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:38:53AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> >> I suggested using -mcpu=cortex-a15 because there are old gcc versions
> >> >> that don't know about -march=armv7ve or -march=armv7-a+idiv yet, but
> >> >> that do understand -mcpu=cortex-a15.
> >> >
> >> > That's not all.  The bigger problem is that there are toolchains out
> >> > there which accept these options, but do _not_ support IDIV in either
> >> > ARM or Thumb mode.  I'm afraid that makes it impossible to add this
> >> > feature to the mainline kernel in this form: we need to run a test
> >> > build to check that -march=armv7ve or what-not really does work
> >> > through both GCC and GAS.
> >> 
> >> If the compiler accepts the option but doesn't actually emit any div
> >> instructions, is there any real harm?
> >
> > That's not what I've found.  I've found that asking the assembler
> > to accept idiv instructions appears to be ignored, which is something
> > completely different.
> >
> > Further to this, what it comes down to is the stupid idea that the
> > compiler should embed .arch / .cpu in the assembly output, which has
> > the effect of overriding the command line arguments given to it via
> > -Wa.  So, giving -Wa,-mcpu=cortex-a15 is a total no-op, because the
> > first thing in the assembly output is:
> >
> > .arch armv7-a
> >
> > which kills off any attempt to set the assembly level ISA from the
> > command line.
> 
> Oh, you mean the compiler knows about the instructions but the assembler
> doesn't or isn't passed the right options.  It's infuriating when that
> happens.

No, that isn't what I meant.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tuesday 24 November 2015 12:15:13 Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann  writes:
> > On Monday 23 November 2015 15:13:52 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> >> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> > On Monday 23 November 2015 13:32:06 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> >> > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> >> > index b251013eef0a..bad6343c34d5 100644
> >> Do you have the information on these custom opcodes? I can work
> >> that into the patches assuming the MIDR is different.
> >
> > Thomas Petazzoni said this in a private mail:
> >
> > | According to the datasheet, the PJ4B has integer signed and unsigned
> > | divide, similar to the sdiv and udiv ARM instructions. But the way to
> > | access it is by doing a MRC instruction.
> > |
> > |MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 4
> > |
> > |for PJ4B is the same as:
> > |
> > |SDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
> > |
> > | on ARM cores.
> > |
> > |And:
> > |
> > |MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 0
> > |
> > |for PJ4B is the same as:
> > |
> > |UDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
> > |
> > |on ARM cores.
> > |
> > |This is documented in the "Extended instructions" section of the
> > |PJ4B datasheet.
> >
> > I assume what he meant was that this is true for both PJ4 and PJ4B
> > but not for PJ4B-MP, which has the normal udiv/sdiv instructions.
> >
> > IOW, anything with CPU implementer 0x56 part 0x581 should use those,
> > while part 0x584 can use the sdiv/udiv that it reports correctly.
> 
> Or we could simply ignore those and they'd be no worse off than they are
> now.

Well, if we add all the infrastructure to do dynamic patching, we
might as well use it here, that is a very little extra effort.

I'm not convinced that the dynamic patching for idiv is actually needed
but I'm not objecting either, and Stephen has done the work already.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Måns Rullgård
Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:10:02PM +, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:38:53AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> >> I suggested using -mcpu=cortex-a15 because there are old gcc versions
>> >> that don't know about -march=armv7ve or -march=armv7-a+idiv yet, but
>> >> that do understand -mcpu=cortex-a15.
>> >
>> > That's not all.  The bigger problem is that there are toolchains out
>> > there which accept these options, but do _not_ support IDIV in either
>> > ARM or Thumb mode.  I'm afraid that makes it impossible to add this
>> > feature to the mainline kernel in this form: we need to run a test
>> > build to check that -march=armv7ve or what-not really does work
>> > through both GCC and GAS.
>> 
>> If the compiler accepts the option but doesn't actually emit any div
>> instructions, is there any real harm?
>
> That's not what I've found.  I've found that asking the assembler
> to accept idiv instructions appears to be ignored, which is something
> completely different.
>
> Further to this, what it comes down to is the stupid idea that the
> compiler should embed .arch / .cpu in the assembly output, which has
> the effect of overriding the command line arguments given to it via
> -Wa.  So, giving -Wa,-mcpu=cortex-a15 is a total no-op, because the
> first thing in the assembly output is:
>
>   .arch armv7-a
>
> which kills off any attempt to set the assembly level ISA from the
> command line.

Oh, you mean the compiler knows about the instructions but the assembler
doesn't or isn't passed the right options.  It's infuriating when that
happens.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:10:02PM +, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:38:53AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> I suggested using -mcpu=cortex-a15 because there are old gcc versions
> >> that don't know about -march=armv7ve or -march=armv7-a+idiv yet, but
> >> that do understand -mcpu=cortex-a15.
> >
> > That's not all.  The bigger problem is that there are toolchains out
> > there which accept these options, but do _not_ support IDIV in either
> > ARM or Thumb mode.  I'm afraid that makes it impossible to add this
> > feature to the mainline kernel in this form: we need to run a test
> > build to check that -march=armv7ve or what-not really does work
> > through both GCC and GAS.
> 
> If the compiler accepts the option but doesn't actually emit any div
> instructions, is there any real harm?

That's not what I've found.  I've found that asking the assembler
to accept idiv instructions appears to be ignored, which is something
completely different.

Further to this, what it comes down to is the stupid idea that the
compiler should embed .arch / .cpu in the assembly output, which has
the effect of overriding the command line arguments given to it via
-Wa.  So, giving -Wa,-mcpu=cortex-a15 is a total no-op, because the
first thing in the assembly output is:

.arch armv7-a

which kills off any attempt to set the assembly level ISA from the
command line.

It does appear after all that Ubuntu 14.04 does support sdiv/idiv with
-mcpu=cortex-a15, but there is no -march=armv7ve.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnd Bergmann  writes:

> On Monday 23 November 2015 15:13:52 Stephen Boyd wrote:
>> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> > On Monday 23 November 2015 13:32:06 Stephen Boyd wrote:
>> > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
>> > index b251013eef0a..bad6343c34d5 100644
>> > --- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
>> > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
>> > @@ -324,8 +324,9 @@ config EM_TIMER_STI
>> >  such as EMEV2 from former NEC Electronics.
>> >  
>> >  config CLKSRC_QCOM
>> > -  bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if COMPILE_TEST
>> > +  bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if ARCH_QCOM || COMPILE_TEST
>> >depends on ARM
>> > +  default ARCH_QCOM
>> >select CLKSRC_OF
>> >help
>> >  This enables the clocksource and the per CPU clockevent driver for the
>> > 
>> > would make both of them equally configurable and not clutter up
>> > the Kconfig file when ARCH_QCOM is not selected. I've added
>> > Daniel Lezcano to Cc, he probably has an opinion on this too.
>> 
>> Yeah I think that architected timers are an outlier. I recall
>> some words from John Stultz that platforms should select the
>> clocksources they use, but maybe things have changed. For this
>> kind of thing I wouldn't mind putting it in the defconfig though.
>> I'll put the patches on the list to get the discussion started.
>
> Ok, thanks!
>
>> > This works perfectly for Cortex-A5, -A8, -A9, -A12, -A15, -A17, Brahma-B15,
>> > PJ4B-MP, Scorpion and Krait-450, which all clearly fall into one of
>> > the two other categories.
>> > 
>> > The two exceptions that don't quite fit are still "good enough":
>> > 
>> > - PJ4/PJ4B (not PJ4B-MP) has a different custom opcode for udiv and sdiv
>> >   in ARM mode. We don't support that with true multiplatform kernels
>> >   because those opcodes work nowhere else, though with your proposed
>> >   series we could easily do that for dynamic patching.
>> 
>> Do you have the information on these custom opcodes? I can work
>> that into the patches assuming the MIDR is different.
>
> Thomas Petazzoni said this in a private mail:
>
> | According to the datasheet, the PJ4B has integer signed and unsigned
> | divide, similar to the sdiv and udiv ARM instructions. But the way to
> | access it is by doing a MRC instruction.
> |
> |MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 4
> |
> |for PJ4B is the same as:
> |
> |SDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
> |
> | on ARM cores.
> |
> |And:
> |
> |MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 0
> |
> |for PJ4B is the same as:
> |
> |UDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
> |
> |on ARM cores.
> |
> |This is documented in the "Extended instructions" section of the
> |PJ4B datasheet.
>
> I assume what he meant was that this is true for both PJ4 and PJ4B
> but not for PJ4B-MP, which has the normal udiv/sdiv instructions.
>
> IOW, anything with CPU implementer 0x56 part 0x581 should use those,
> while part 0x584 can use the sdiv/udiv that it reports correctly.

Or we could simply ignore those and they'd be no worse off than they are
now.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Måns Rullgård
Russell King - ARM Linux  writes:

> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:38:53AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> I suggested using -mcpu=cortex-a15 because there are old gcc versions
>> that don't know about -march=armv7ve or -march=armv7-a+idiv yet, but
>> that do understand -mcpu=cortex-a15.
>
> That's not all.  The bigger problem is that there are toolchains out
> there which accept these options, but do _not_ support IDIV in either
> ARM or Thumb mode.  I'm afraid that makes it impossible to add this
> feature to the mainline kernel in this form: we need to run a test
> build to check that -march=armv7ve or what-not really does work
> through both GCC and GAS.

If the compiler accepts the option but doesn't actually emit any div
instructions, is there any real harm?

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:38:53AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> I suggested using -mcpu=cortex-a15 because there are old gcc versions
> that don't know about -march=armv7ve or -march=armv7-a+idiv yet, but
> that do understand -mcpu=cortex-a15.

That's not all.  The bigger problem is that there are toolchains out
there which accept these options, but do _not_ support IDIV in either
ARM or Thumb mode.  I'm afraid that makes it impossible to add this
feature to the mainline kernel in this form: we need to run a test
build to check that -march=armv7ve or what-not really does work
through both GCC and GAS.

Given that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS suffers with this, it's something that
must be resolved.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:53:49AM -0800, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, thanks for the confirmation.
> > > 
> > > Summarizing what we've found, I think we can get away with just
> > > introducing two Kconfig symbols ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and CPU_V7VE.
> > > Most CPUs fall clearly into one category or the other, and then
> > > we can allow LPAE to be selected for V7VE-only build but not
> > > for plain V7, and we can unconditionally build the kernel with
> > > 
> > > arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)  = -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(call 
> > > cc-option,-march=armv7ve,-march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a15)
> > > 
> > 
> > This causes compiler spew for me:
> > 
> >   warning: switch -mcpu=cortex-a15 conflicts with -march=armv7-a switch
> > 
> > Removing -march=armv7-a from there makes it quiet.
> > 
> > Also, it's sort of feels wrong to have -mcpu in a place where
> > we're exclusively doing -march. Perhaps the fallback should be
> > bog standard -march=armv7-a? (or the fallback for that one
> > "-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv7-a")?
> > 
> 
> And adding CPU_V7VE causes a cascade of changes to wherever
> CPU_V7 is being used today. Here's the patch I currently have,
> without the platform changes:
> 
> ---8<
>  arch/arm/Kconfig   | 68 
> +-
>  arch/arm/Kconfig-nommu |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/Makefile  |  1 +
>  arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S|  2 +-
>  arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c|  2 +-
>  arch/arm/include/asm/cacheflush.h  |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/include/asm/glue-cache.h  |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/include/asm/glue-proc.h   |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/include/asm/switch_to.h   |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/include/debug/icedcc.S|  2 +-
>  arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S   |  6 ++--
>  arch/arm/kernel/perf_event_v7.c|  4 +--
>  arch/arm/kvm/Kconfig   |  2 +-
>  arch/arm/mm/Kconfig| 41 ---
>  arch/arm/mm/Makefile   |  1 +
>  arch/arm/probes/kprobes/test-arm.c |  2 +-
>  drivers/bus/Kconfig|  6 ++--
>  17 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 61 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/Kconfig
> index 9e2d2adcc85b..ccd0d5553d38 100644
> --- a/arch/arm/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/arm/Kconfig
> @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ config ARM
>   select HANDLE_DOMAIN_IRQ
>   select HARDIRQS_SW_RESEND
>   select HAVE_ARCH_AUDITSYSCALL if (AEABI && !OABI_COMPAT)
> - select HAVE_ARCH_BITREVERSE if (CPU_32v7M || CPU_32v7) && !CPU_32v6
> + select HAVE_ARCH_BITREVERSE if (CPU_32v7M || CPU_32v7 || CPU_32_v7VE) 
> && !CPU_32v6
>   select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL if !XIP_KERNEL && !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
>   select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB if !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
>   select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER if (AEABI && !OABI_COMPAT)
> @@ -46,12 +46,12 @@ config ARM
>   select HAVE_DMA_ATTRS
>   select HAVE_DMA_CONTIGUOUS if MMU
>   select HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE if (!XIP_KERNEL) && !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
> - select HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS if (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || CPU_V7) 
> && MMU
> + select HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS if (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || CPU_V7 
> || CPU_V7VE) && MMU
>   select HAVE_FTRACE_MCOUNT_RECORD if (!XIP_KERNEL)
>   select HAVE_FUNCTION_GRAPH_TRACER if (!THUMB2_KERNEL)
>   select HAVE_FUNCTION_TRACER if (!XIP_KERNEL)
>   select HAVE_GENERIC_DMA_COHERENT
> - select HAVE_HW_BREAKPOINT if (PERF_EVENTS && (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || 
> CPU_V7))
> + select HAVE_HW_BREAKPOINT if (PERF_EVENTS && (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || 
> CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE))
>   select HAVE_IDE if PCI || ISA || PCMCIA
>   select HAVE_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
>   select HAVE_KERNEL_GZIP
> @@ -805,6 +805,12 @@ config ARCH_MULTI_V7
>   select CPU_V7
>   select HAVE_SMP
>  
> +config ARCH_MULTI_V7VE
> + bool "ARMv7 w/ virtualization extensions based platforms (Cortex-A, 
> PJ4-MP, Krait)"
> + select ARCH_MULTI_V6_V7
> + select CPU_V7VE
> + select HAVE_SMP
> +
>  config ARCH_MULTI_V6_V7
>   bool
>   select MIGHT_HAVE_CACHE_L2X0
> @@ -1069,7 +1075,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_411920
>  
>  config ARM_ERRATA_430973
>   bool "ARM errata: Stale prediction on replaced interworking branch"
> - depends on CPU_V7
> + depends on CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE

NAK on all this.  The fact that you're having to add CPU_V7VE at all
sites which have CPU_V7 shows that this is a totally broken way of
approaching this.

Make CPU_V7VE be an _add-on_ to CPU_V7.  In other words, when CPU_V7VE
is enabled, CPU_V7 should also be enabled, just like we do for CPU_V6K.

Note that v7M is different because that's not an add-on feature, it's
a different CPU class from (what should be) v7A.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tuesday 24 November 2015 00:53:49 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, thanks for the confirmation.
> > > 
> > > Summarizing what we've found, I think we can get away with just
> > > introducing two Kconfig symbols ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and CPU_V7VE.
> > > Most CPUs fall clearly into one category or the other, and then
> > > we can allow LPAE to be selected for V7VE-only build but not
> > > for plain V7, and we can unconditionally build the kernel with
> > > 
> > > arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)  = -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(call 
> > > cc-option,-march=armv7ve,-march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a15)
> > > 
> > 
> > This causes compiler spew for me:
> > 
> >   warning: switch -mcpu=cortex-a15 conflicts with -march=armv7-a switch
> > 
> > Removing -march=armv7-a from there makes it quiet.
> > 
> > Also, it's sort of feels wrong to have -mcpu in a place where
> > we're exclusively doing -march. Perhaps the fallback should be
> > bog standard -march=armv7-a? (or the fallback for that one
> > "-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv7-a")?

I suggested using -mcpu=cortex-a15 because there are old gcc versions
that don't know about -march=armv7ve or -march=armv7-a+idiv yet, but
that do understand -mcpu=cortex-a15. I might be misremembering the
exact options we want though, and we could now just decided that if
your gcc is too old, you get no idiv even if it supports that on
Cortex-A15.

> And adding CPU_V7VE causes a cascade of changes to wherever
> CPU_V7 is being used today. Here's the patch I currently have,
> without the platform changes:

Thanks a lot for looking into this. I think we can simplify a couple
of them, as long as we also fix all the platforms to have the correct
dependencies:

> @@ -1069,7 +1075,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_411920
>  
>  config ARM_ERRATA_430973
>   bool "ARM errata: Stale prediction on replaced interworking branch"
> - depends on CPU_V7
> + depends on CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE
>   help
> This option enables the workaround for the 430973 Cortex-A8
> r1p* erratum. If a code sequence containing an ARM/Thumb

If it's a Cortex-A8 erratum, we don't need the "|| CPU_V7VE". Same for
a lot of the following errata.

> @@ -1246,7 +1252,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_775420
>  
>  config ARM_ERRATA_798181
>   bool "ARM errata: TLBI/DSB failure on Cortex-A15"
> - depends on CPU_V7 && SMP
> + depends on (CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE) && SMP
>   help
> On Cortex-A15 (r0p0..r3p2) the TLBI*IS/DSB operations are not
> adequately shooting down all use of the old entries. This
> @@ -1256,7 +1262,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_798181
>  
>  config ARM_ERRATA_773022
>   bool "ARM errata: incorrect instructions may be executed from loop 
> buffer"
> - depends on CPU_V7
> + depends on CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE
>   help
> This option enables the workaround for the 773022 Cortex-A15
> (up to r0p4) erratum. In certain rare sequences of code, the

And conversely, these will only need to depend on CPU_V7VE.

> @@ -1373,7 +1379,7 @@ config SMP_ON_UP
>  
>  config ARM_CPU_TOPOLOGY
>   bool "Support cpu topology definition"
> - depends on SMP && CPU_V7
> + depends on SMP && (CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE)
>   default y
>   help
> Support ARM cpu topology definition. The MPIDR register defines

Does topology make sense with Cortex-A5/A9 or Scorpion?
Otherwise it can also be V7VE-only.

> @@ -1417,7 +1423,7 @@ config HAVE_ARM_TWD
>  
>  config MCPM
>   bool "Multi-Cluster Power Management"
> - depends on CPU_V7 && SMP
> + depends on (CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE) && SMP
>   help
> This option provides the common power management infrastructure
> for (multi-)cluster based systems, such as big.LITTLE based
> @@ -1434,7 +1440,7 @@ config MCPM_QUAD_CLUSTER
>  
>  config BIG_LITTLE
>   bool "big.LITTLE support (Experimental)"
> - depends on CPU_V7 && SMP
> + depends on (CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE) && SMP
>   select MCPM
>   help
> This option enables support selections for the big.LITTLE

multi-cluster and big.little are also V7VE-only by definition,
as pre-VE ARMv7 cores are all limited to one cluster.


> @@ -1642,7 +1648,7 @@ config AEABI
>  
>  config ARM_PATCH_UIDIV
>   bool "Runtime patch calls to __aeabi_{u}idiv() with udiv/sdiv"
> - depends on CPU_V7 && !XIP_KERNEL && AEABI
> + depends on CPU_32v7 && !XIP_KERNEL && AEABI
>   help
> Some v7 CPUs have support for the udiv and sdiv instructions
> that can be used in place of calls to __aeabi_uidiv and __aeabi_idiv

How about making this 

depends on (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || CPU_V7) && CPU_V7VE

> @@ -1843,7 +1849,7 @@ config XEN_DOM0
>  config XEN
>   bool "Xen guest support on ARM"
>   depends on ARM && AEABI && OF
> - depends on CPU_V7 && !CPU_V6
> + depends on (CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE) && !CPU_V6
>   depends on !GENERIC_ATOMIC64
>   depends on MMU
>

Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 04:13:06PM -0800, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, thanks for the confirmation.
> > 
> > Summarizing what we've found, I think we can get away with just
> > introducing two Kconfig symbols ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and CPU_V7VE.
> > Most CPUs fall clearly into one category or the other, and then
> > we can allow LPAE to be selected for V7VE-only build but not
> > for plain V7, and we can unconditionally build the kernel with
> > 
> > arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)  = -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(call 
> > cc-option,-march=armv7ve,-march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a15)
> > 
> 
> This causes compiler spew for me:
> 
>   warning: switch -mcpu=cortex-a15 conflicts with -march=armv7-a switch
> 
> Removing -march=armv7-a from there makes it quiet.
> 
> Also, it's sort of feels wrong to have -mcpu in a place where
> we're exclusively doing -march. Perhaps the fallback should be
> bog standard -march=armv7-a? (or the fallback for that one
> "-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv7-a")?

How it was explained to me years ago is that -march selects the
instruction set, -mtune selects the instruction scheduling, and -mcpu
selects both.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Monday 23 November 2015 15:13:52 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 23 November 2015 13:32:06 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > index b251013eef0a..bad6343c34d5 100644
> > --- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > @@ -324,8 +324,9 @@ config EM_TIMER_STI
> >   such as EMEV2 from former NEC Electronics.
> >  
> >  config CLKSRC_QCOM
> > -   bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if COMPILE_TEST
> > +   bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if ARCH_QCOM || COMPILE_TEST
> > depends on ARM
> > +   default ARCH_QCOM
> > select CLKSRC_OF
> > help
> >   This enables the clocksource and the per CPU clockevent driver for the
> > 
> > would make both of them equally configurable and not clutter up
> > the Kconfig file when ARCH_QCOM is not selected. I've added
> > Daniel Lezcano to Cc, he probably has an opinion on this too.
> 
> Yeah I think that architected timers are an outlier. I recall
> some words from John Stultz that platforms should select the
> clocksources they use, but maybe things have changed. For this
> kind of thing I wouldn't mind putting it in the defconfig though.
> I'll put the patches on the list to get the discussion started.

Ok, thanks!
 
> > This works perfectly for Cortex-A5, -A8, -A9, -A12, -A15, -A17, Brahma-B15,
> > PJ4B-MP, Scorpion and Krait-450, which all clearly fall into one of
> > the two other categories.
> > 
> > The two exceptions that don't quite fit are still "good enough":
> > 
> > - PJ4/PJ4B (not PJ4B-MP) has a different custom opcode for udiv and sdiv
> >   in ARM mode. We don't support that with true multiplatform kernels
> >   because those opcodes work nowhere else, though with your proposed
> >   series we could easily do that for dynamic patching.
> 
> Do you have the information on these custom opcodes? I can work
> that into the patches assuming the MIDR is different.

Thomas Petazzoni said this in a private mail:

| According to the datasheet, the PJ4B has integer signed and unsigned
| divide, similar to the sdiv and udiv ARM instructions. But the way to
| access it is by doing a MRC instruction.
|
|MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 4
|
|for PJ4B is the same as:
|
|SDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
|
| on ARM cores.
|
|And:
|
|MRC p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 0
|
|for PJ4B is the same as:
|
|UDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
|
|on ARM cores.
|
|This is documented in the "Extended instructions" section of the
|PJ4B datasheet.

I assume what he meant was that this is true for both PJ4 and PJ4B
but not for PJ4B-MP, which has the normal udiv/sdiv instructions.

IOW, anything with CPU implementer 0x56 part 0x581 should use those,
while part 0x584 can use the sdiv/udiv that it reports correctly.

> > - Krait (pre-450) won't run kernels with LPAE disabled, but if we only
> >   have one global ARCH_QCOM option that can be enabled for both
> >   ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and ARCH_MULTI_V7, we still win: a mach-qcom
> >   kernel with only ARCH_MULTI_V7VE will use IDIV by default, and
> >   give you the option to enable LPAE. If you pick LPAE, it will
> >   still work fine on Krait-450 but not the older ones, and that is
> >   a user error. If you enable ARCH_MULTI_V7 / CPU_V7, you get neither
> >   LPAE nor IDIV, and the kernel will be able to run on both Scorpion
> >   and Krait, as long as you have the right drivers too.
> > 
> 
> So if I have built mach-qcom with ARCH_MULTI_V7VE won't I get a
> kernel that uses idiv instructions that could be run on Scorpion,
> where the instruction doesn't exist? Or is that a user error
> again like picking LPAE?

Right. If you want to run on Scorpion, you have to select ARCH_MULTI_V7.
If both are set, we should build with -march=armv7-a and not use
the idiv instructions.
 
> It seems fine to me to go ahead with this approach. Should I take
> care of cooking up the patches? I can package this all up into a
> series that adds the new CPU type, updates the affected
> platforms, and layers the runtime patching on top when plain V7
> is a selected CPU type.

That would be nice, yes.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-24 Thread Stephen Boyd
On 11/23, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, thanks for the confirmation.
> > 
> > Summarizing what we've found, I think we can get away with just
> > introducing two Kconfig symbols ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and CPU_V7VE.
> > Most CPUs fall clearly into one category or the other, and then
> > we can allow LPAE to be selected for V7VE-only build but not
> > for plain V7, and we can unconditionally build the kernel with
> > 
> > arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)  = -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(call 
> > cc-option,-march=armv7ve,-march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a15)
> > 
> 
> This causes compiler spew for me:
> 
>   warning: switch -mcpu=cortex-a15 conflicts with -march=armv7-a switch
> 
> Removing -march=armv7-a from there makes it quiet.
> 
> Also, it's sort of feels wrong to have -mcpu in a place where
> we're exclusively doing -march. Perhaps the fallback should be
> bog standard -march=armv7-a? (or the fallback for that one
> "-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv7-a")?
> 

And adding CPU_V7VE causes a cascade of changes to wherever
CPU_V7 is being used today. Here's the patch I currently have,
without the platform changes:

---8<
 arch/arm/Kconfig   | 68 +-
 arch/arm/Kconfig-nommu |  2 +-
 arch/arm/Makefile  |  1 +
 arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S|  2 +-
 arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c|  2 +-
 arch/arm/include/asm/cacheflush.h  |  2 +-
 arch/arm/include/asm/glue-cache.h  |  2 +-
 arch/arm/include/asm/glue-proc.h   |  2 +-
 arch/arm/include/asm/switch_to.h   |  2 +-
 arch/arm/include/debug/icedcc.S|  2 +-
 arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S   |  6 ++--
 arch/arm/kernel/perf_event_v7.c|  4 +--
 arch/arm/kvm/Kconfig   |  2 +-
 arch/arm/mm/Kconfig| 41 ---
 arch/arm/mm/Makefile   |  1 +
 arch/arm/probes/kprobes/test-arm.c |  2 +-
 drivers/bus/Kconfig|  6 ++--
 17 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 61 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/Kconfig
index 9e2d2adcc85b..ccd0d5553d38 100644
--- a/arch/arm/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/Kconfig
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ config ARM
select HANDLE_DOMAIN_IRQ
select HARDIRQS_SW_RESEND
select HAVE_ARCH_AUDITSYSCALL if (AEABI && !OABI_COMPAT)
-   select HAVE_ARCH_BITREVERSE if (CPU_32v7M || CPU_32v7) && !CPU_32v6
+   select HAVE_ARCH_BITREVERSE if (CPU_32v7M || CPU_32v7 || CPU_32_v7VE) 
&& !CPU_32v6
select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL if !XIP_KERNEL && !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB if !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER if (AEABI && !OABI_COMPAT)
@@ -46,12 +46,12 @@ config ARM
select HAVE_DMA_ATTRS
select HAVE_DMA_CONTIGUOUS if MMU
select HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE if (!XIP_KERNEL) && !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
-   select HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS if (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || CPU_V7) 
&& MMU
+   select HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS if (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || CPU_V7 
|| CPU_V7VE) && MMU
select HAVE_FTRACE_MCOUNT_RECORD if (!XIP_KERNEL)
select HAVE_FUNCTION_GRAPH_TRACER if (!THUMB2_KERNEL)
select HAVE_FUNCTION_TRACER if (!XIP_KERNEL)
select HAVE_GENERIC_DMA_COHERENT
-   select HAVE_HW_BREAKPOINT if (PERF_EVENTS && (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || 
CPU_V7))
+   select HAVE_HW_BREAKPOINT if (PERF_EVENTS && (CPU_V6 || CPU_V6K || 
CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE))
select HAVE_IDE if PCI || ISA || PCMCIA
select HAVE_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
select HAVE_KERNEL_GZIP
@@ -805,6 +805,12 @@ config ARCH_MULTI_V7
select CPU_V7
select HAVE_SMP
 
+config ARCH_MULTI_V7VE
+   bool "ARMv7 w/ virtualization extensions based platforms (Cortex-A, 
PJ4-MP, Krait)"
+   select ARCH_MULTI_V6_V7
+   select CPU_V7VE
+   select HAVE_SMP
+
 config ARCH_MULTI_V6_V7
bool
select MIGHT_HAVE_CACHE_L2X0
@@ -1069,7 +1075,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_411920
 
 config ARM_ERRATA_430973
bool "ARM errata: Stale prediction on replaced interworking branch"
-   depends on CPU_V7
+   depends on CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE
help
  This option enables the workaround for the 430973 Cortex-A8
  r1p* erratum. If a code sequence containing an ARM/Thumb
@@ -1085,7 +1091,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_430973
 
 config ARM_ERRATA_458693
bool "ARM errata: Processor deadlock when a false hazard is created"
-   depends on CPU_V7
+   depends on CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE
depends on !ARCH_MULTIPLATFORM
help
  This option enables the workaround for the 458693 Cortex-A8 (r2p0)
@@ -1099,7 +1105,7 @@ config ARM_ERRATA_458693
 
 config ARM_ERRATA_460075
bool "ARM errata: Data written to the L2 cache can be overwritten with 
stale data"
-   depends on CPU_V7
+   depends on CPU_V7 || CPU_V7VE
depends on !ARCH_MULTIPLATFORM
help
  This option enables the workaround for the 460075 Cortex-A8 (r2p0)
@@ -1112,7 +1

Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Stephen Boyd
On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> Ok, thanks for the confirmation.
> 
> Summarizing what we've found, I think we can get away with just
> introducing two Kconfig symbols ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and CPU_V7VE.
> Most CPUs fall clearly into one category or the other, and then
> we can allow LPAE to be selected for V7VE-only build but not
> for plain V7, and we can unconditionally build the kernel with
> 
> arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)  = -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(call 
> cc-option,-march=armv7ve,-march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a15)
> 

This causes compiler spew for me:

  warning: switch -mcpu=cortex-a15 conflicts with -march=armv7-a switch

Removing -march=armv7-a from there makes it quiet.

Also, it's sort of feels wrong to have -mcpu in a place where
we're exclusively doing -march. Perhaps the fallback should be
bog standard -march=armv7-a? (or the fallback for that one
"-march=armv5t -Wa$(comma)-march=armv7-a")?

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Stephen Boyd
On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 23 November 2015 13:32:06 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Monday 23 November 2015 12:38:47 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > 
> > It would be nice to drop the ARCH_MSM* configs entirely. If we
> > could select the right timers from kconfig without using selects
> > then we could drop them. Or we could just select both types of
> > timers when building qcom platforms.
> 
> Ok, dropping the specific Kconfig entries is actually an awesome
> idea, as it completely solves the other problem as well, more on
> that below.
> 
> In that case, don't worry about listing all the models, once
> we stop listing a subset of them, the confusion is already
> reduced by the fact that one has to look at the .dts files
> so see which models we support, and I assume there will be
> additional ones coming in for at least a few more years (before
> you stop caring about 32-bit MSM and compatibles).
> 
> Regarding the timers:
> HAVE_ARM_ARCH_TIMER is already user-selectable, so maybe something
> like

> 
> diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> index b251013eef0a..bad6343c34d5 100644
> --- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> @@ -324,8 +324,9 @@ config EM_TIMER_STI
> such as EMEV2 from former NEC Electronics.
>  
>  config CLKSRC_QCOM
> - bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if COMPILE_TEST
> + bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if ARCH_QCOM || COMPILE_TEST
>   depends on ARM
> + default ARCH_QCOM
>   select CLKSRC_OF
>   help
> This enables the clocksource and the per CPU clockevent driver for the
> 
> would make both of them equally configurable and not clutter up
> the Kconfig file when ARCH_QCOM is not selected. I've added
> Daniel Lezcano to Cc, he probably has an opinion on this too.

Yeah I think that architected timers are an outlier. I recall
some words from John Stultz that platforms should select the
clocksources they use, but maybe things have changed. For this
kind of thing I wouldn't mind putting it in the defconfig though.
I'll put the patches on the list to get the discussion started.

> 
> > > > > The ones we do support are MSM8x60 (Scorpion), MSM8960
> > > > > (Krait-without-number),and MSM7874 (Krait 400). Do those all
> > > > > support IDIV but not LPAE?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Krait supports IDIV for all versions. Scorpion doesn't support
> > > > IDIV or lpae. Here's the output of /proc/cpuinfo on that device. 
> > > > 
> > > > # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> > > > processor   : 0
> > > > model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
> > > > BogoMIPS: 13.50
> > > > Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpd32
> > > > CPU implementer : 0x51
> > > > CPU architecture: 7
> > > > CPU variant : 0x0
> > > > CPU part: 0x02d
> > > > CPU revision: 2
> > > 
> > > Ok, that leaves just one missing puzzle piece: can you confirm that
> > > no supported Krait variant other than Krait 450 / apq8084 has LPAE?
> > > 
> > 
> > Right, apq8084 is the only SoC with a Krait CPU that supports
> > LPAE.
> 
> Ok, thanks for the confirmation.
> 
> Summarizing what we've found, I think we can get away with just
> introducing two Kconfig symbols ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and CPU_V7VE.
> Most CPUs fall clearly into one category or the other, and then
> we can allow LPAE to be selected for V7VE-only build but not
> for plain V7, and we can unconditionally build the kernel with
> 
> arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)  = -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(call 
> cc-option,-march=armv7ve,-march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a15)
> 
> This works perfectly for Cortex-A5, -A8, -A9, -A12, -A15, -A17, Brahma-B15,
> PJ4B-MP, Scorpion and Krait-450, which all clearly fall into one of
> the two other categories.
> 
> The two exceptions that don't quite fit are still "good enough":
> 
> - PJ4/PJ4B (not PJ4B-MP) has a different custom opcode for udiv and sdiv
>   in ARM mode. We don't support that with true multiplatform kernels
>   because those opcodes work nowhere else, though with your proposed
>   series we could easily do that for dynamic patching.

Do you have the information on these custom opcodes? I can work
that into the patches assuming the MIDR is different.

> 
> - Krait (pre-450) won't run kernels with LPAE disabled, but if we only
>   have one global ARCH_QCOM option that can be enabled for both
>   ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and ARCH_MULTI_V7, we still win: a mach-qcom
>   kernel with only ARCH_MULTI_V7VE will use IDIV by default, and
>   give you the option to enable LPAE. If you pick LPAE, it will
>   still work fine on Krait-450 but not the older ones, and that is
>   a user error. If you enable ARCH_MULTI_V7 / CPU_V7, you get neither
>   LPAE nor IDIV, and the kernel will be able to run on both Scorpion
>   and Krait, as long as you have the right drivers too.
> 

So if I have built mach-qcom with ARCH_MULTI_V7VE won't I get a
kernel that uses idiv instructions that could be run on Scorp

Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Monday 23 November 2015 13:32:06 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 23 November 2015 12:38:47 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > > On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > On Monday 23 November 2015 09:14:39 Christopher Covington wrote:
> > > > > On 11/23/2015 03:15 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > > LPAE is only supported in the Krait 450.
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.anandtech.com/show/7537/qualcomms-snapdragon-805-25ghz-128bit-memory-interface-d3d11class-graphics-more
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm pretty sure idiv support came earlier, but I don't have the
> > > > > specifics on hand.
> > > > 
> > > > I have seen that article, but didn't trust it as a canonical
> > > > source of information here.
> > > > 
> > > > If you can confirm that it's right, that would mean that we
> > > > don't support LPAE on mach-qcom, as the only SoC with Krait 450
> > > > seems to be APQ8084, and mainline Linux doesn't run on that.
> > > 
> > > arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8084.dtsi exists in the mainline
> > > kernel. We support more than what's in the Kconfig language
> > > under mach-qcom.
> > 
> > Ok, cool. I'm sometimes confused by the model numbers, could you
> > do a separate patch to update the Kconfig help text?
> 
> What did you have in mind? I'm also confused by the model numbers
> so I don't know how helpful I will be.
> 
> It would be nice to drop the ARCH_MSM* configs entirely. If we
> could select the right timers from kconfig without using selects
> then we could drop them. Or we could just select both types of
> timers when building qcom platforms.

Ok, dropping the specific Kconfig entries is actually an awesome
idea, as it completely solves the other problem as well, more on
that below.

In that case, don't worry about listing all the models, once
we stop listing a subset of them, the confusion is already
reduced by the fact that one has to look at the .dts files
so see which models we support, and I assume there will be
additional ones coming in for at least a few more years (before
you stop caring about 32-bit MSM and compatibles).

Regarding the timers:
HAVE_ARM_ARCH_TIMER is already user-selectable, so maybe something
like

diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
index b251013eef0a..bad6343c34d5 100644
--- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
@@ -324,8 +324,9 @@ config EM_TIMER_STI
  such as EMEV2 from former NEC Electronics.
 
 config CLKSRC_QCOM
-   bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if COMPILE_TEST
+   bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if ARCH_QCOM || COMPILE_TEST
depends on ARM
+   default ARCH_QCOM
select CLKSRC_OF
help
  This enables the clocksource and the per CPU clockevent driver for the

would make both of them equally configurable and not clutter up
the Kconfig file when ARCH_QCOM is not selected. I've added
Daniel Lezcano to Cc, he probably has an opinion on this too.

> > > > The ones we do support are MSM8x60 (Scorpion), MSM8960
> > > > (Krait-without-number),and MSM7874 (Krait 400). Do those all
> > > > support IDIV but not LPAE?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Krait supports IDIV for all versions. Scorpion doesn't support
> > > IDIV or lpae. Here's the output of /proc/cpuinfo on that device. 
> > > 
> > > # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> > > processor   : 0
> > > model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
> > > BogoMIPS: 13.50
> > > Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpd32
> > > CPU implementer : 0x51
> > > CPU architecture: 7
> > > CPU variant : 0x0
> > > CPU part: 0x02d
> > > CPU revision: 2
> > 
> > Ok, that leaves just one missing puzzle piece: can you confirm that
> > no supported Krait variant other than Krait 450 / apq8084 has LPAE?
> > 
> 
> Right, apq8084 is the only SoC with a Krait CPU that supports
> LPAE.

Ok, thanks for the confirmation.

Summarizing what we've found, I think we can get away with just
introducing two Kconfig symbols ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and CPU_V7VE.
Most CPUs fall clearly into one category or the other, and then
we can allow LPAE to be selected for V7VE-only build but not
for plain V7, and we can unconditionally build the kernel with

arch-$(CONFIG_CPU_32v7VE)  = -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=7 $(call 
cc-option,-march=armv7ve,-march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a15)

This works perfectly for Cortex-A5, -A8, -A9, -A12, -A15, -A17, Brahma-B15,
PJ4B-MP, Scorpion and Krait-450, which all clearly fall into one of
the two other categories.

The two exceptions that don't quite fit are still "good enough":

- PJ4/PJ4B (not PJ4B-MP) has a different custom opcode for udiv and sdiv
  in ARM mode. We don't support that with true multiplatform kernels
  because those opcodes work nowhere else, though with your proposed
  series we could easily do that for dynamic patching.

- Krait (pre-450) won't run kernels with LPAE disabled, but if we only
  have one global ARCH_QCOM option that can be enabled for both
  ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and ARCH_MULTI_V7, 

Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Stephen Boyd
On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 23 November 2015 12:38:47 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Monday 23 November 2015 09:14:39 Christopher Covington wrote:
> > > > On 11/23/2015 03:15 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > LPAE is only supported in the Krait 450.
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.anandtech.com/show/7537/qualcomms-snapdragon-805-25ghz-128bit-memory-interface-d3d11class-graphics-more
> > > > 
> > > > I'm pretty sure idiv support came earlier, but I don't have the
> > > > specifics on hand.
> > > 
> > > I have seen that article, but didn't trust it as a canonical
> > > source of information here.
> > > 
> > > If you can confirm that it's right, that would mean that we
> > > don't support LPAE on mach-qcom, as the only SoC with Krait 450
> > > seems to be APQ8084, and mainline Linux doesn't run on that.
> > 
> > arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8084.dtsi exists in the mainline
> > kernel. We support more than what's in the Kconfig language
> > under mach-qcom.
> 
> Ok, cool. I'm sometimes confused by the model numbers, could you
> do a separate patch to update the Kconfig help text?

What did you have in mind? I'm also confused by the model numbers
so I don't know how helpful I will be.

It would be nice to drop the ARCH_MSM* configs entirely. If we
could select the right timers from kconfig without using selects
then we could drop them. Or we could just select both types of
timers when building qcom platforms.

> 
> > > The ones we do support are MSM8x60 (Scorpion), MSM8960
> > > (Krait-without-number),and MSM7874 (Krait 400). Do those all
> > > support IDIV but not LPAE?
> > > 
> > 
> > Krait supports IDIV for all versions. Scorpion doesn't support
> > IDIV or lpae. Here's the output of /proc/cpuinfo on that device. 
> > 
> > # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> > processor   : 0
> > model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
> > BogoMIPS: 13.50
> > Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpd32
> > CPU implementer : 0x51
> > CPU architecture: 7
> > CPU variant : 0x0
> > CPU part: 0x02d
> > CPU revision: 2
> 
> Ok, that leaves just one missing puzzle piece: can you confirm that
> no supported Krait variant other than Krait 450 / apq8084 has LPAE?
> 

Right, apq8084 is the only SoC with a Krait CPU that supports
LPAE.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Monday 23 November 2015 12:38:47 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 23 November 2015 09:14:39 Christopher Covington wrote:
> > > On 11/23/2015 03:15 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > LPAE is only supported in the Krait 450.
> > > 
> > > http://www.anandtech.com/show/7537/qualcomms-snapdragon-805-25ghz-128bit-memory-interface-d3d11class-graphics-more
> > > 
> > > I'm pretty sure idiv support came earlier, but I don't have the
> > > specifics on hand.
> > 
> > I have seen that article, but didn't trust it as a canonical
> > source of information here.
> > 
> > If you can confirm that it's right, that would mean that we
> > don't support LPAE on mach-qcom, as the only SoC with Krait 450
> > seems to be APQ8084, and mainline Linux doesn't run on that.
> 
> arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8084.dtsi exists in the mainline
> kernel. We support more than what's in the Kconfig language
> under mach-qcom.

Ok, cool. I'm sometimes confused by the model numbers, could you
do a separate patch to update the Kconfig help text?

> And yes LPAE is supported by apq8084 (as is
> IDIV). Here's the /proc/cpuinfo on that device.
> # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor   : 0
> model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
> BogoMIPS: 38.40
> Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva 
> idivt vfpd32 lpae evtstrm

Ok.

> > The ones we do support are MSM8x60 (Scorpion), MSM8960
> > (Krait-without-number),and MSM7874 (Krait 400). Do those all
> > support IDIV but not LPAE?
> > 
> 
> Krait supports IDIV for all versions. Scorpion doesn't support
> IDIV or lpae. Here's the output of /proc/cpuinfo on that device. 
> 
> # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor   : 0
> model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
> BogoMIPS: 13.50
> Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpd32
> CPU implementer : 0x51
> CPU architecture: 7
> CPU variant : 0x0
> CPU part: 0x02d
> CPU revision: 2

Ok, that leaves just one missing puzzle piece: can you confirm that
no supported Krait variant other than Krait 450 / apq8084 has LPAE?

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Stephen Boyd
On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Monday 23 November 2015 09:14:39 Christopher Covington wrote:
> > On 11/23/2015 03:15 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Sunday 22 November 2015 21:36:45 Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, thanks a lot! So the reporting in /proc/cpuinfo clearly matches
> > > the actual features, and we can just treat this as no LPAE / no IDIV
> > > for kernel compilation, as nobody ever seems to use THUMB2_KERNEL
> > > in practice.
> > > 
> > > PJ4-MP is like Cortex-A15/A7/A12/A17 and supports both IDIV and LPAE,
> > > which leaves the question whether Scorpion or Krait do the same as
> > > well, or whether they are outliers and need a special configuration.
> > 
> > LPAE is only supported in the Krait 450.
> > 
> > http://www.anandtech.com/show/7537/qualcomms-snapdragon-805-25ghz-128bit-memory-interface-d3d11class-graphics-more
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure idiv support came earlier, but I don't have the
> > specifics on hand.
> 
> I have seen that article, but didn't trust it as a canonical
> source of information here.
> 
> If you can confirm that it's right, that would mean that we
> don't support LPAE on mach-qcom, as the only SoC with Krait 450
> seems to be APQ8084, and mainline Linux doesn't run on that.

arch/arm/boot/dts/qcom-apq8084.dtsi exists in the mainline
kernel. We support more than what's in the Kconfig language
under mach-qcom. And yes LPAE is supported by apq8084 (as is
IDIV). Here's the /proc/cpuinfo on that device.

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
BogoMIPS: 38.40
Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt 
vfpd32 lpae evtstrm
CPU implementer : 0x51
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x3
CPU part: 0x06f
CPU revision: 1

processor   : 1
model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
BogoMIPS: 38.40
Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt 
vfpd32 lpae evtstrm
CPU implementer : 0x51
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x3
CPU part: 0x06f
CPU revision: 1

processor   : 2
model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
BogoMIPS: 38.40
Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt 
vfpd32 lpae evtstrm
CPU implementer : 0x51
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x3
CPU part: 0x06f
CPU revision: 1

processor   : 3
model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
BogoMIPS: 38.40
Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt 
vfpd32 lpae evtstrm
CPU implementer : 0x51
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x3
CPU part: 0x06f
CPU revision: 1

Hardware: Qualcomm (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision: 
Serial  : 

> 
> The ones we do support are MSM8x60 (Scorpion), MSM8960
> (Krait-without-number),and MSM7874 (Krait 400). Do those all
> support IDIV but not LPAE?
> 

Krait supports IDIV for all versions. Scorpion doesn't support
IDIV or lpae. Here's the output of /proc/cpuinfo on that device. 

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
BogoMIPS: 13.50
Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpd32
CPU implementer : 0x51
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x0
CPU part: 0x02d
CPU revision: 2

processor   : 1
model name  : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
BogoMIPS: 13.50
Features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpd32
CPU implementer : 0x51
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x0
CPU part: 0x02d
CPU revision: 2

Hardware: Qualcomm (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision: 
Serial  : 

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Monday 23 November 2015 09:14:39 Christopher Covington wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 03:15 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 November 2015 21:36:45 Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, thanks a lot! So the reporting in /proc/cpuinfo clearly matches
> > the actual features, and we can just treat this as no LPAE / no IDIV
> > for kernel compilation, as nobody ever seems to use THUMB2_KERNEL
> > in practice.
> > 
> > PJ4-MP is like Cortex-A15/A7/A12/A17 and supports both IDIV and LPAE,
> > which leaves the question whether Scorpion or Krait do the same as
> > well, or whether they are outliers and need a special configuration.
> 
> LPAE is only supported in the Krait 450.
> 
> http://www.anandtech.com/show/7537/qualcomms-snapdragon-805-25ghz-128bit-memory-interface-d3d11class-graphics-more
> 
> I'm pretty sure idiv support came earlier, but I don't have the
> specifics on hand.

I have seen that article, but didn't trust it as a canonical
source of information here.

If you can confirm that it's right, that would mean that we
don't support LPAE on mach-qcom, as the only SoC with Krait 450
seems to be APQ8084, and mainline Linux doesn't run on that.

The ones we do support are MSM8x60 (Scorpion), MSM8960
(Krait-without-number),and MSM7874 (Krait 400). Do those all
support IDIV but not LPAE?

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Christopher Covington
On 11/23/2015 03:15 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Sunday 22 November 2015 21:36:45 Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>>> I've also found some /proc/cpuinfo output to cross-reference SoCs
>>> to their core names.
>>>
>>>   variant partrevisionnamefeatures
>>> dove: 0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt
>>
>> I just managed to boot my dusty Dove DB and ran a quick test programon 
>> it. Its cpuinfo corresponds to the above.
>>
>> $ cat m.c
>> #include 
>> int mydiv(int, int);
>> int main()
>> {
>> printf("div test\n");
>> printf("%d\n", mydiv(12345678, 37));
>> return 0;
>> }
>> $ cat d.c
>> int mydiv(int x, int y)
>> {
>> return x/y;
>> }
>> $ gcc -o test m.c d.c
>> $ ./test
>> div test
>> 333666
>> $ gcc -o test m.c d.c -march=armv7ve -mthumb
>> $ ./test
>> div test
>> 333666
>> $ gcc -o test m.c d.c -march=armv7ve -marm
>> $ ./test
>> div test
>> Illegal instruction (core dumped)
>> $
> 
> Ok, thanks a lot! So the reporting in /proc/cpuinfo clearly matches
> the actual features, and we can just treat this as no LPAE / no IDIV
> for kernel compilation, as nobody ever seems to use THUMB2_KERNEL
> in practice.
> 
> PJ4-MP is like Cortex-A15/A7/A12/A17 and supports both IDIV and LPAE,
> which leaves the question whether Scorpion or Krait do the same as
> well, or whether they are outliers and need a special configuration.

LPAE is only supported in the Krait 450.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7537/qualcomms-snapdragon-805-25ghz-128bit-memory-interface-d3d11class-graphics-more

I'm pretty sure idiv support came earlier, but I don't have the
specifics on hand.

Regards,
Christopher Covington

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-23 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sunday 22 November 2015 21:36:45 Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> > I've also found some /proc/cpuinfo output to cross-reference SoCs
> > to their core names.
> > 
> >   variant partrevisionnamefeatures
> > dove: 0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt
> 
> I just managed to boot my dusty Dove DB and ran a quick test programon 
> it. Its cpuinfo corresponds to the above.
> 
> $ cat m.c
> #include 
> int mydiv(int, int);
> int main()
> {
> printf("div test\n");
> printf("%d\n", mydiv(12345678, 37));
> return 0;
> }
> $ cat d.c
> int mydiv(int x, int y)
> {
> return x/y;
> }
> $ gcc -o test m.c d.c
> $ ./test
> div test
> 333666
> $ gcc -o test m.c d.c -march=armv7ve -mthumb
> $ ./test
> div test
> 333666
> $ gcc -o test m.c d.c -march=armv7ve -marm
> $ ./test
> div test
> Illegal instruction (core dumped)
> $

Ok, thanks a lot! So the reporting in /proc/cpuinfo clearly matches
the actual features, and we can just treat this as no LPAE / no IDIV
for kernel compilation, as nobody ever seems to use THUMB2_KERNEL
in practice.

PJ4-MP is like Cortex-A15/A7/A12/A17 and supports both IDIV and LPAE,
which leaves the question whether Scorpion or Krait do the same as
well, or whether they are outliers and need a special configuration.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> I've also found some /proc/cpuinfo output to cross-reference SoCs
> to their core names.
> 
>   variant partrevisionnamefeatures
> dove: 0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt

I just managed to boot my dusty Dove DB and ran a quick test programon 
it. Its cpuinfo corresponds to the above.

$ cat m.c
#include 
int mydiv(int, int);
int main()
{
printf("div test\n");
printf("%d\n", mydiv(12345678, 37));
return 0;
}
$ cat d.c
int mydiv(int x, int y)
{
return x/y;
}
$ gcc -o test m.c d.c
$ ./test
div test
333666
$ gcc -o test m.c d.c -march=armv7ve -mthumb
$ ./test
div test
333666
$ gcc -o test m.c d.c -march=armv7ve -marm
$ ./test
div test
Illegal instruction (core dumped)
$


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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sunday 22 November 2015 20:39:54 Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann  writes:
> 
> > arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -Wall -O2 -mcpu=cortex-a15 
> > idiv.c -c -o idiv-arm.o
> > arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ objdump -dr idiv-arm.o   
> >
> > idiv-arm.o: file format elf32-littlearm
> >
> > Disassembly of section .text:
> >
> >  :
> >0:   fbb0 f0f1   udivr0, r0, r1
> >4:   4770bx  lr
> >6:   bf00nop
> >
> > 0008 :
> >8:   fb90 f0f1   sdivr0, r0, r1
> >c:   4770bx  lr
> >e:   bf00nop
> 
> Your compiler seems to default to thumb so you should add -marm.
> 

Sorry about that.

Arnd

arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -Wall -O2 -mcpu=cortex-a15 idiv.c -c 
-o idiv-arm.o -marm
arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ objdump -dr idiv-arm.o 

idiv-arm.o: file format elf32-littlearm


Disassembly of section .text:

 :
   0:   e730f110udivr0, r0, r1
   4:   e12fff1ebx  lr

0008 :
   8:   e710f110sdivr0, r0, r1
   c:   e12fff1ebx  lr


idiv-arm.o
Description: application/object


Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnd Bergmann  writes:

> arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -Wall -O2 -mcpu=cortex-a15 idiv.c 
> -c -o idiv-arm.o
> arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ objdump -dr idiv-arm.o   
>
> idiv-arm.o: file format elf32-littlearm
>
> Disassembly of section .text:
>
>  :
>0:   fbb0 f0f1   udivr0, r0, r1
>4:   4770bx  lr
>6:   bf00nop
>
> 0008 :
>8:   fb90 f0f1   sdivr0, r0, r1
>c:   4770bx  lr
>e:   bf00nop

Your compiler seems to default to thumb so you should add -marm.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sunday 22 November 2015 20:03:26 Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:58:08PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > does it work with -mcpu=cortex-a15?  I've tried crosstool as versions
> > 2.23.52.20130913, 2.24.0.20141017 and 2.25.51.20150518, and they
> > all seem to behave as expected, failing with -mcpu=cortex-a9 and
> > marvell-pj4 but succeeding with -mcpu=cortex-a15 or marvell-pj4+idiv.
> 
> Appears not:
> 
> root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a15+idiv' -marm
> /tmp/ccSovg32.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/ccSovg32.s:32: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `udiv 
> ip,r5,r4'
> root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a15+idiv' -mthumb
> /tmp/cchbT3EE.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/cchbT3EE.s:36: Error: selected processor does not support Thumb mode 
> `udiv r6,r5,r4'
> 
> Same without the +idiv.

I've attached files with those instructions, maybe that helps.

> > I've also found some /proc/cpuinfo output to cross-reference SoCs
> > to their core names.
> > 
> > variant partrevisionnamefeatures
> > mmp2:   0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt
> > dove:   0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt
> 
> Yes, that agrees with my dove.

ok.

arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ cat idiv.c 
unsigned int udiv(unsigned int a, unsigned int b)
{
return a / b;
}

int sdiv(int a, int b)
{
return a / b;
}
arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -Wall -O2 -mcpu=cortex-a15 idiv.c -c 
-o idiv-arm.o
arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ objdump -dr idiv-arm.o   

idiv-arm.o: file format elf32-littlearm


Disassembly of section .text:

 :
   0:   fbb0 f0f1   udivr0, r0, r1
   4:   4770bx  lr
   6:   bf00nop

0008 :
   8:   fb90 f0f1   sdivr0, r0, r1
   c:   4770bx  lr
   e:   bf00nop
arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -Wall -O2 -mcpu=cortex-a15 idiv.c -c 
-o idiv-thumb.o -mthumb
arnd@wuerfel:/tmp$ objdump -dr idiv-thumb.o 

idiv-thumb.o: file format elf32-littlearm


Disassembly of section .text:

 :
   0:   fbb0 f0f1   udivr0, r0, r1
   4:   4770bx  lr
   6:   bf00nop

0008 :
   8:   fb90 f0f1   sdivr0, r0, r1
   c:   4770bx  lr
   e:   bf00nop


Arnd

idiv-arm.o
Description: application/object


idiv-thumb.o
Description: application/object
unsigned int udiv(unsigned int a, unsigned int b)
{
	return a / b;
}

int sdiv(int a, int b)
{
	return a / b;
}


Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:58:08PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> does it work with -mcpu=cortex-a15?  I've tried crosstool as versions
> 2.23.52.20130913, 2.24.0.20141017 and 2.25.51.20150518, and they
> all seem to behave as expected, failing with -mcpu=cortex-a9 and
> marvell-pj4 but succeeding with -mcpu=cortex-a15 or marvell-pj4+idiv.

Appears not:

root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a15+idiv' -marm
/tmp/ccSovg32.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/ccSovg32.s:32: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `udiv 
ip,r5,r4'
root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a15+idiv' -mthumb
/tmp/cchbT3EE.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/cchbT3EE.s:36: Error: selected processor does not support Thumb mode `udiv 
r6,r5,r4'

Same without the +idiv.

> I've also found some /proc/cpuinfo output to cross-reference SoCs
> to their core names.
> 
>   variant partrevisionnamefeatures
> mmp2: 0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt
> dove: 0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt

Yes, that agrees with my dove.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sunday 22 November 2015 19:47:05 Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:25:27PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > The question is really about Marvell Dove, MMP and Armada 370,
> > which are all based on PJ4 or PJ4B (CPU part : 0x581), so ARMv7-A
> > and report idivt support but idiva.
> 
> Well, it's pretty hard to test when binutils blocks your ability to
> write assembly using the instructions.
> 
> root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a9+idiv' -marm
> /tmp/cc8WPQiB.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/cc8WPQiB.s:32: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `udiv 
> ip,r5,r4'
> root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a9+idiv' -mthumb
> /tmp/ccRzgAlM.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/ccRzgAlM.s:36: Error: selected processor does not support Thumb mode 
> `udiv r6,r5,r4'
> root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='marvell-pj4+idiv' -mthumb
> /tmp/cc1JYyFD.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/cc1JYyFD.s:36: Error: selected processor does not support Thumb mode 
> `udiv r6,r5,r4'
> root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='marvell-pj4+idiv' -marm
> /tmp/ccEQbQpp.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/ccEQbQpp.s:32: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `udiv 
> ip,r5,r4'
> 
> That's binutils 2.24 and gcc 4.8.4 as found on Ubuntu 14.04.  I'm
> sorry, but I don't have spare time to work out what the opcodes
> would be.
> 

does it work with -mcpu=cortex-a15?  I've tried crosstool as versions
2.23.52.20130913, 2.24.0.20141017 and 2.25.51.20150518, and they
all seem to behave as expected, failing with -mcpu=cortex-a9 and
marvell-pj4 but succeeding with -mcpu=cortex-a15 or marvell-pj4+idiv.

I've also found some /proc/cpuinfo output to cross-reference SoCs
to their core names.

variant partrevisionnamefeatures
mmp2:   0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt
dove:   0   0x581   5   PJ4 idivt
Armada 370  1   0x581   1   PJ4Bidivt
mmp3:   2   0x584   2   PJ4-MP  idiva idivt lpae
Armada XP   2   0x584   2   PJ4-MP  idiva idivt lpae
Berlin  2   0x584   2   PJ4-MP  idiva idivt lpae

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:25:27PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> The question is really about Marvell Dove, MMP and Armada 370,
> which are all based on PJ4 or PJ4B (CPU part : 0x581), so ARMv7-A
> and report idivt support but idiva.

Well, it's pretty hard to test when binutils blocks your ability to
write assembly using the instructions.

root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a9+idiv' -marm
/tmp/cc8WPQiB.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/cc8WPQiB.s:32: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `udiv 
ip,r5,r4'
root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='cortex-a9+idiv' -mthumb
/tmp/ccRzgAlM.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/ccRzgAlM.s:36: Error: selected processor does not support Thumb mode `udiv 
r6,r5,r4'
root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='marvell-pj4+idiv' -mthumb
/tmp/cc1JYyFD.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/cc1JYyFD.s:36: Error: selected processor does not support Thumb mode `udiv 
r6,r5,r4'
root@cubox:~# gcc -O2 -o idiv idiv.c -Wa,-mcpu='marvell-pj4+idiv' -marm
/tmp/ccEQbQpp.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/ccEQbQpp.s:32: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `udiv 
ip,r5,r4'

That's binutils 2.24 and gcc 4.8.4 as found on Ubuntu 14.04.  I'm
sorry, but I don't have spare time to work out what the opcodes
would be.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnd Bergmann  writes:

> On Sunday 22 November 2015 13:29:29 Peter Maydell wrote:
>> On 21 November 2015 at 23:21, Arnd Bergmann  wrote:
>> > Regarding PJ4, it's still unclear whether that has the same
>> > problem and it only reports idivt when it actually supports idiva,
>> > or whether the lack of idiva support on PJ4 is instead the reason
>> > why the ARM ARM was updated to have separate flags.
>> 
>> SDIV/IDIV were originally introduced for R and M profile only
>> and there the Thumb encodings of SDIV/IDIV are mandatory
>> whereas the ARM ones are optional (and weren't initially
>> defined at all). So if you're looking for CPUs with only the
>> Thumb encodings I would try checking older R profile cores
>> like the Cortex-R4.
>
> The question is really about Marvell Dove, MMP and Armada 370,
> which are all based on PJ4 or PJ4B (CPU part : 0x581), so ARMv7-A
> and report idivt support but idiva.
>
> There are a couple of explanations here:
>
> a) Marvell really implemented only idivt but not idiva
>and reports it correctly, and the people from
>https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/forum/#!topic/reviews/9wvsJvq0YYY
>just misinterpreted the flags
>
> b) the dartlag.org folks are correct, and it supports neither
>idivt nor idiva, and the /proc/cpuinfo flag is just wrong
>and requires a fixup
>
> c) like Krait, it actually implements both idiva and idivt but
>gets the reporting wrong.

It's trivial to test for someone who has one.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sunday 22 November 2015 13:29:29 Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 21 November 2015 at 23:21, Arnd Bergmann  wrote:
> > Regarding PJ4, it's still unclear whether that has the same
> > problem and it only reports idivt when it actually supports idiva,
> > or whether the lack of idiva support on PJ4 is instead the reason
> > why the ARM ARM was updated to have separate flags.
> 
> SDIV/IDIV were originally introduced for R and M profile only
> and there the Thumb encodings of SDIV/IDIV are mandatory
> whereas the ARM ones are optional (and weren't initially
> defined at all). So if you're looking for CPUs with only the
> Thumb encodings I would try checking older R profile cores
> like the Cortex-R4.

The question is really about Marvell Dove, MMP and Armada 370,
which are all based on PJ4 or PJ4B (CPU part : 0x581), so ARMv7-A
and report idivt support but idiva.

There are a couple of explanations here:

a) Marvell really implemented only idivt but not idiva
   and reports it correctly, and the people from
   https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/forum/#!topic/reviews/9wvsJvq0YYY
   just misinterpreted the flags

b) the dartlag.org folks are correct, and it supports neither
   idivt nor idiva, and the /proc/cpuinfo flag is just wrong
   and requires a fixup

c) like Krait, it actually implements both idiva and idivt but
   gets the reporting wrong.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-22 Thread Peter Maydell
On 21 November 2015 at 23:21, Arnd Bergmann  wrote:
> Regarding PJ4, it's still unclear whether that has the same
> problem and it only reports idivt when it actually supports idiva,
> or whether the lack of idiva support on PJ4 is instead the reason
> why the ARM ARM was updated to have separate flags.

SDIV/IDIV were originally introduced for R and M profile only
and there the Thumb encodings of SDIV/IDIV are mandatory
whereas the ARM ones are optional (and weren't initially
defined at all). So if you're looking for CPUs with only the
Thumb encodings I would try checking older R profile cores
like the Cortex-R4.

thanks
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-21 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sunday 22 November 2015 00:14:14 Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Saturday 21 November 2015 22:11:36 Måns Rullgård wrote:
> > Arnd Bergmann  writes:
> > > On Saturday 21 November 2015 20:45:38 Måns Rullgård wrote:
> > >> On 21 November 2015 20:39:58 GMT+00:00, Arnd Bergmann  
> > >> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> The ARM ARM says anything with virt has idiv, lpae doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > Ok, and anything with virt also has lpae by definition. The question is
> > > whether we care about using idiv on cores that do not have lpae, or that
> > > have neither lpae nor virt.
> > 
> > The question is, are there any such cores?  GCC doesn't know of any, but
> > then it's missing most non-ARM designs.
> 
> Exactly. Stephen should be able to find out about the Qualcomm cores,
> and http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/426289 has
> some information about the others:
>  * Brahma-B15 supports all three.
>  * Dove (PJ4) reports idiv only in thumb mode, which I'm tempted to ignore
>for the kernel, as it supports neither lpae nor idiva.
>  * Armada 370/XP (PJ4B) reports support for idiva and idivt, but according to
>https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/forum/#!topic/reviews/9wvsJvq0YYY
>that may be a lie.
>  * According to the same source, Krait fails to report idiva and idivt,
>but supports both anyway. However, I found reports on the web where
>/proc/cpuinfo correctly contains the flags on the same SoC (APQ8064)
>that was mentioned there, so maybe they were just running an old
>kernel.

This has some more information: 

commit 120ecfafabec382c4feb79ff159ef42a39b6d33b
Author: Stepan Moskovchenko 
Date:   Mon Mar 18 19:44:16 2013 +0100

ARM: 7678/1: Work around faulty ISAR0 register in some Krait CPUs

Some early versions of the Krait CPU design incorrectly indicate
that they only support the UDIV and SDIV instructions in Thumb
mode when they actually support them in ARM and Thumb mode. It
seems that these CPUs follow the DDI0406B ARM ARM which has two
possible values for the divide instructions field, instead of the
DDI0406C document which has three possible values.

Work around this problem by checking the MIDR against Krait CPUs
with this faulty ISAR0 register and force the hwcaps to indicate
support in both modes.

[sboyd: Rewrote commit text to reflect real reasoning now that
we autodetect udiv/sdiv]

Signed-off-by: Stepan Moskovchenko 
Acked-by: Will Deacon 
Signed-off-by: Stephen Boyd 
Signed-off-by: Russell King 

so Krait clearly supports them, and this also explains why some
machines misreport it depending on the CPU version and kernel
release running on it.

Regarding PJ4, it's still unclear whether that has the same
problem and it only reports idivt when it actually supports idiva,
or whether the lack of idiva support on PJ4 is instead the reason
why the ARM ARM was updated to have separate flags.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-21 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Saturday 21 November 2015 22:11:36 Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann  writes:
> > On Saturday 21 November 2015 20:45:38 Måns Rullgård wrote:
> >> On 21 November 2015 20:39:58 GMT+00:00, Arnd Bergmann  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> The ARM ARM says anything with virt has idiv, lpae doesn't matter.
> >
> > Ok, and anything with virt also has lpae by definition. The question is
> > whether we care about using idiv on cores that do not have lpae, or that
> > have neither lpae nor virt.
> 
> The question is, are there any such cores?  GCC doesn't know of any, but
> then it's missing most non-ARM designs.

Exactly. Stephen should be able to find out about the Qualcomm cores,
and http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/426289 has
some information about the others:
 * Brahma-B15 supports all three.
 * Dove (PJ4) reports idiv only in thumb mode, which I'm tempted to ignore
   for the kernel, as it supports neither lpae nor idiva.
 * Armada 370/XP (PJ4B) reports support for idiva and idivt, but according to
   https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/forum/#!topic/reviews/9wvsJvq0YYY
   that may be a lie.
 * According to the same source, Krait fails to report idiva and idivt,
   but supports both anyway. However, I found reports on the web where
   /proc/cpuinfo correctly contains the flags on the same SoC (APQ8064)
   that was mentioned there, so maybe they were just running an old
   kernel.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-21 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnd Bergmann  writes:

> On Saturday 21 November 2015 20:45:38 Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> On 21 November 2015 20:39:58 GMT+00:00, Arnd Bergmann  wrote:
>> >On Friday 20 November 2015 17:23:14 Stephen Boyd wrote:
>> >> This is a respin of a patch series from about a year ago[1]. I
>> >realized
>> >> that we already had most of the code in recordmcount to figure out
>> >> where we make calls to particular functions, so recording where
>> >> we make calls to the integer division functions should be easy enough
>> >> to add support for in the same codepaths. Looking back on the thread
>> >> it seems like Mans was thinking along the same lines, although it
>> >wasn't
>> >> obvious to me back then or even over the last few days when I wrote
>> >this.
>> >
>> >Shouldn't we start by allowing to build the kernel for -march=armv7ve
>> >on platforms that allow it? That would seem like a simpler change
>> >and likely generate better code for most people, except when you
>> >actually
>> >care about running the same binary kernel on older platforms.
>> >
>> >I tried to get a complete list of CPU cores with idiv, lpae and
>> >virtualization support at some point, but I don't remember the
>> >details for all Qualcomm and Marvell cores any more, to create the
>> >complete configuration matrix. IIRC, all CPUs that support
>> >virtualization also do lpae (they have to) and all CPUs that
>> >do lpae also do idiv, but the opposite is not true.
>> >
>> 
>> The ARM ARM says anything with virt has idiv, lpae doesn't matter.
>
> Ok, and anything with virt also has lpae by definition. The question is
> whether we care about using idiv on cores that do not have lpae, or that
> have neither lpae nor virt.

The question is, are there any such cores?  GCC doesn't know of any, but
then it's missing most non-ARM designs.

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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-21 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Saturday 21 November 2015 20:45:38 Måns Rullgård wrote:
> On 21 November 2015 20:39:58 GMT+00:00, Arnd Bergmann  wrote:
> >On Friday 20 November 2015 17:23:14 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> >> This is a respin of a patch series from about a year ago[1]. I
> >realized
> >> that we already had most of the code in recordmcount to figure out
> >> where we make calls to particular functions, so recording where
> >> we make calls to the integer division functions should be easy enough
> >> to add support for in the same codepaths. Looking back on the thread
> >> it seems like Mans was thinking along the same lines, although it
> >wasn't
> >> obvious to me back then or even over the last few days when I wrote
> >this.
> >
> >Shouldn't we start by allowing to build the kernel for -march=armv7ve
> >on platforms that allow it? That would seem like a simpler change
> >and likely generate better code for most people, except when you
> >actually
> >care about running the same binary kernel on older platforms.
> >
> >I tried to get a complete list of CPU cores with idiv, lpae and
> >virtualization support at some point, but I don't remember the
> >details for all Qualcomm and Marvell cores any more, to create the
> >complete configuration matrix. IIRC, all CPUs that support
> >virtualization also do lpae (they have to) and all CPUs that
> >do lpae also do idiv, but the opposite is not true.
> >
> 
> The ARM ARM says anything with virt has idiv, lpae doesn't matter.

Ok, and anything with virt also has lpae by definition. The question is
whether we care about using idiv on cores that do not have lpae, or that
have neither lpae nor virt.

We have a related problem at the moment where we don't handle configuration
of lpae correctly in Kconfig: you can simply turn that on for any
ARMv7-only kernel, but it breaks running on Cortex-A8, Cortex-A9
and at least some subset of PJ4/Scorpion/Krait (not sure which).

If we add a way to configure idiv support, we should do it right and
handle lpae correctly too. If we are lucky, each CPU we support
either has both or neither, and then we just need one additional
Kconfig option. We don't need another option for virt, because KVM
support can be handled in a way that it doesn't break on cores with
lpae but without virt (it requires lpae).

> ARMv7-R also has idiv. I've no idea if anyone runs Linux on those though.

Not mainline at least. There were patches at some point, but they
never got merged.

Arnd
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-21 Thread Måns Rullgård
On 21 November 2015 20:39:58 GMT+00:00, Arnd Bergmann  wrote:
>On Friday 20 November 2015 17:23:14 Stephen Boyd wrote:
>> This is a respin of a patch series from about a year ago[1]. I
>realized
>> that we already had most of the code in recordmcount to figure out
>> where we make calls to particular functions, so recording where
>> we make calls to the integer division functions should be easy enough
>> to add support for in the same codepaths. Looking back on the thread
>> it seems like Mans was thinking along the same lines, although it
>wasn't
>> obvious to me back then or even over the last few days when I wrote
>this.
>
>Shouldn't we start by allowing to build the kernel for -march=armv7ve
>on platforms that allow it? That would seem like a simpler change
>and likely generate better code for most people, except when you
>actually
>care about running the same binary kernel on older platforms.
>
>I tried to get a complete list of CPU cores with idiv, lpae and
>virtualization support at some point, but I don't remember the
>details for all Qualcomm and Marvell cores any more, to create the
>complete configuration matrix. IIRC, all CPUs that support
>virtualization also do lpae (they have to) and all CPUs that
>do lpae also do idiv, but the opposite is not true.
>
>   Arnd

The ARM ARM says anything with virt has idiv, lpae doesn't matter. ARMv7-R also 
has idiv. I've no idea if anyone runs Linux on those though.
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Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-21 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Friday 20 November 2015 17:23:14 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> This is a respin of a patch series from about a year ago[1]. I realized
> that we already had most of the code in recordmcount to figure out
> where we make calls to particular functions, so recording where
> we make calls to the integer division functions should be easy enough
> to add support for in the same codepaths. Looking back on the thread
> it seems like Mans was thinking along the same lines, although it wasn't
> obvious to me back then or even over the last few days when I wrote this.

Shouldn't we start by allowing to build the kernel for -march=armv7ve
on platforms that allow it? That would seem like a simpler change
and likely generate better code for most people, except when you actually
care about running the same binary kernel on older platforms.

I tried to get a complete list of CPU cores with idiv, lpae and
virtualization support at some point, but I don't remember the
details for all Qualcomm and Marvell cores any more, to create the
complete configuration matrix. IIRC, all CPUs that support
virtualization also do lpae (they have to) and all CPUs that
do lpae also do idiv, but the opposite is not true.

Arnd
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[RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions

2015-11-20 Thread Stephen Boyd
This is a respin of a patch series from about a year ago[1]. I realized
that we already had most of the code in recordmcount to figure out
where we make calls to particular functions, so recording where
we make calls to the integer division functions should be easy enough
to add support for in the same codepaths. Looking back on the thread
it seems like Mans was thinking along the same lines, although it wasn't
obvious to me back then or even over the last few days when I wrote this.

This series extends recordmcount to record the locations of the calls
to the library functions on ARM builds, and puts those locations into a
table that we use to patch instructions at boot. The first two patches
are the recordmcount changes, while the last patch implements the runtime
patching for modules and kernel code. The module part also hooks into the
relocation patching code we already have.

The RFC tag is because I'm thinking of splitting the recordmcount changes
into a new program based on recordmcount so that we don't drag in a lot
of corner cases and stuff when we don't need to. I suspect it will be
cleaner that way too. Does anyone prefer one way or the other?

Comments/feedback appreciated.

[1] 
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1383951632-6090-1-git-send-email-sb...@codeaurora.org

Cc: Nicolas Pitre 
Cc: Arnd Bergmann 
Cc: Steven Rostedt 
Cc: Måns Rullgård 

Stephen Boyd (3):
  scripts: Allow recordmcount to be used without tracing enabled
  recordmcount: Record locations of __aeabi_{u}idiv() calls on ARM
  ARM: Replace calls to __aeabi_{u}idiv with udiv/sdiv instructions

 Makefile  |   7 +
 arch/arm/Kconfig  |  14 ++
 arch/arm/kernel/module.c  |  44 ++
 arch/arm/kernel/setup.c   |  34 +
 arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S |  13 ++
 kernel/trace/Kconfig  |   4 +
 scripts/Makefile.build|  15 +-
 scripts/recordmcount.c|  10 +-
 scripts/recordmcount.h| 337 +-
 scripts/recordmcount.pl   |  11 +-
 10 files changed, 406 insertions(+), 83 deletions(-)

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