Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-03-01 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 06:40:21AM -0500, David Ford wrote:
> I would also appreciate the return of good resolution.  Blocky mouse 
> startup moves make graphic editing rather difficult.  No mouse movement 
> until I have moved my finger a significant distance then the mouse all 
> of a sudden jumps a dozen pixels before it "smoothly" glides along.
> 
> I would also love to see the sync issues go away. :/  Whatever this 
> patch(es) was supposed to accomplish, it introduced some rather 
> undesirable side effects.  a) sync issues, b) tapping, c) fine grain 
> movements, d) loss of scroll sliding as well (moving your finger along 
> the side/bottom of the glidepoint).
> 
> Not griping, just providing feedback.
 
Can you check with a current -mm kernel whether any of the issues is
still there? Everything seems to work smoothly with my ALPS.

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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-03-01 Thread David Ford
I would also appreciate the return of good resolution.  Blocky mouse 
startup moves make graphic editing rather difficult.  No mouse movement 
until I have moved my finger a significant distance then the mouse all 
of a sudden jumps a dozen pixels before it "smoothly" glides along.

I would also love to see the sync issues go away. :/  Whatever this 
patch(es) was supposed to accomplish, it introduced some rather 
undesirable side effects.  a) sync issues, b) tapping, c) fine grain 
movements, d) loss of scroll sliding as well (moving your finger along 
the side/bottom of the glidepoint).

Not griping, just providing feedback.
-david
Ian E. Morgan wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
Also, in my tree currently (and planned for 2.6.12) hardware tapping is
enabled again, because double taps don't work otherwise (hardware
limitation).

You should really try to get that squeezed into 2.6.11 before it is
released, or else I would anticipate a LOT more people whining about 
their
broken touchpads.

Regards,
Ian Morgan
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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-03-01 Thread David Ford
I would also appreciate the return of good resolution.  Blocky mouse 
startup moves make graphic editing rather difficult.  No mouse movement 
until I have moved my finger a significant distance then the mouse all 
of a sudden jumps a dozen pixels before it smoothly glides along.

I would also love to see the sync issues go away. :/  Whatever this 
patch(es) was supposed to accomplish, it introduced some rather 
undesirable side effects.  a) sync issues, b) tapping, c) fine grain 
movements, d) loss of scroll sliding as well (moving your finger along 
the side/bottom of the glidepoint).

Not griping, just providing feedback.
-david
Ian E. Morgan wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
Also, in my tree currently (and planned for 2.6.12) hardware tapping is
enabled again, because double taps don't work otherwise (hardware
limitation).

You should really try to get that squeezed into 2.6.11 before it is
released, or else I would anticipate a LOT more people whining about 
their
broken touchpads.

Regards,
Ian Morgan
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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-03-01 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 06:40:21AM -0500, David Ford wrote:
 I would also appreciate the return of good resolution.  Blocky mouse 
 startup moves make graphic editing rather difficult.  No mouse movement 
 until I have moved my finger a significant distance then the mouse all 
 of a sudden jumps a dozen pixels before it smoothly glides along.
 
 I would also love to see the sync issues go away. :/  Whatever this 
 patch(es) was supposed to accomplish, it introduced some rather 
 undesirable side effects.  a) sync issues, b) tapping, c) fine grain 
 movements, d) loss of scroll sliding as well (moving your finger along 
 the side/bottom of the glidepoint).
 
 Not griping, just providing feedback.
 
Can you check with a current -mm kernel whether any of the issues is
still there? Everything seems to work smoothly with my ALPS.

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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-28 Thread Ian E. Morgan
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
Also, in my tree currently (and planned for 2.6.12) hardware tapping is
enabled again, because double taps don't work otherwise (hardware
limitation).
You should really try to get that squeezed into 2.6.11 before it is
released, or else I would anticipate a LOT more people whining about their
broken touchpads.
Regards,
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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-28 Thread Ian E. Morgan
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
Also, in my tree currently (and planned for 2.6.12) hardware tapping is
enabled again, because double taps don't work otherwise (hardware
limitation).
You should really try to get that squeezed into 2.6.11 before it is
released, or else I would anticipate a LOT more people whining about their
broken touchpads.
Regards,
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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 10:08:15PM -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:

> > So now, can anyone explain what bit 3 of param[0] does, and why you would
> > want to disable hardware tapping support when it's set? My pad (ALPS
> > 56AAA1760C on a Sager NP8560V) has always worked with hardware tapping as a
> > plain PS/2 mouse, no special ALPS support req'd.
> > 
> > Can this disabling of hardware tapping support be made optional (boot time
> > param or other)? I don't want to have to patch every kernel from here on
> > out.
> > 
> 
> It still should do software tap emulation (although support is a bit flakey
> with ALPS I must admit, but there are patches that should improve it) - so
> people who don't like tapping can deactivate it.
> 
> Anyway, "psmouse.proto=exps" boot option should disable ALPS native mode and
> restore previous behavior.

Also, in my tree currently (and planned for 2.6.12) hardware tapping is
enabled again, because double taps don't work otherwise (hardware
limitation).

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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-26 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 10:08:15PM -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:

  So now, can anyone explain what bit 3 of param[0] does, and why you would
  want to disable hardware tapping support when it's set? My pad (ALPS
  56AAA1760C on a Sager NP8560V) has always worked with hardware tapping as a
  plain PS/2 mouse, no special ALPS support req'd.
  
  Can this disabling of hardware tapping support be made optional (boot time
  param or other)? I don't want to have to patch every kernel from here on
  out.
  
 
 It still should do software tap emulation (although support is a bit flakey
 with ALPS I must admit, but there are patches that should improve it) - so
 people who don't like tapping can deactivate it.
 
 Anyway, psmouse.proto=exps boot option should disable ALPS native mode and
 restore previous behavior.

Also, in my tree currently (and planned for 2.6.12) hardware tapping is
enabled again, because double taps don't work otherwise (hardware
limitation).

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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-24 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
On Thursday 24 February 2005 18:29, Ian E. Morgan wrote:
> Trying out 2.6.11-rc5, I discovered my ALPS touchpad misbehaving. After
> reading several threads related to the topic, noe seemed to resolve my
> issue.
> 
> The pad has always worked fine as a plain PS/2 mouse, from 2.4.0 through
> 2.6.10.
> 
> This change fixes the problem by NOT disabling hardware tapping:
> 
> --- linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c~  2005-02-24 
> 18:16:03.0 -0500
> +++ linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c   2005-02-24 
> 18:16:03.0 -0500
> @@ -334,8 +334,8 @@
>   if (alps_get_status(psmouse, param))
>   return -1;
> 
> - if (param[0] & 0x04)
> - alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
> +//   if (param[0] & 0x04)
> +//   alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
> 
>   if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
>   printk(KERN_ERR "alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n");
> @@ -372,11 +372,11 @@
>   return -1;
>   }
> 
> - if (param[0] & 0x04) {
> - printk(KERN_INFO "  Disabling hardware tapping\n");
> - if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
> - printk(KERN_WARNING "alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
> tapping\n");
> - }
> +//   if (param[0] & 0x04) {
> +//   printk(KERN_INFO "  Disabling hardware tapping\n");
> +//   if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
> +//   printk(KERN_WARNING "alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
> tapping\n");
> +//   }
> 
>   if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
>   printk(KERN_ERR "alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n");
> 
> 
> 
> So now, can anyone explain what bit 3 of param[0] does, and why you would
> want to disable hardware tapping support when it's set? My pad (ALPS
> 56AAA1760C on a Sager NP8560V) has always worked with hardware tapping as a
> plain PS/2 mouse, no special ALPS support req'd.
> 
> Can this disabling of hardware tapping support be made optional (boot time
> param or other)? I don't want to have to patch every kernel from here on
> out.
> 

It still should do software tap emulation (although support is a bit flakey
with ALPS I must admit, but there are patches that should improve it) - so
people who don't like tapping can deactivate it.

Anyway, "psmouse.proto=exps" boot option should disable ALPS native mode and
restore previous behavior.

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ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-24 Thread Ian E. Morgan
Trying out 2.6.11-rc5, I discovered my ALPS touchpad misbehaving. After
reading several threads related to the topic, noe seemed to resolve my
issue.
The pad has always worked fine as a plain PS/2 mouse, from 2.4.0 through
2.6.10.
This change fixes the problem by NOT disabling hardware tapping:
--- linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c~2005-02-24 
18:16:03.0 -0500
+++ linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c 2005-02-24 18:16:03.0 
-0500
@@ -334,8 +334,8 @@
if (alps_get_status(psmouse, param))
return -1;
-   if (param[0] & 0x04)
-   alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
+// if (param[0] & 0x04)
+// alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
printk(KERN_ERR "alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n");
@@ -372,11 +372,11 @@
return -1;
}
-   if (param[0] & 0x04) {
-   printk(KERN_INFO "  Disabling hardware tapping\n");
-   if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
-   printk(KERN_WARNING "alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
tapping\n");
-   }
+// if (param[0] & 0x04) {
+// printk(KERN_INFO "  Disabling hardware tapping\n");
+// if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
+// printk(KERN_WARNING "alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
tapping\n");
+// }
if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
printk(KERN_ERR "alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n");

So now, can anyone explain what bit 3 of param[0] does, and why you would
want to disable hardware tapping support when it's set? My pad (ALPS
56AAA1760C on a Sager NP8560V) has always worked with hardware tapping as a
plain PS/2 mouse, no special ALPS support req'd.
Can this disabling of hardware tapping support be made optional (boot time
param or other)? I don't want to have to patch every kernel from here on
out.
Regards,
Ian Morgan
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ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-24 Thread Ian E. Morgan
Trying out 2.6.11-rc5, I discovered my ALPS touchpad misbehaving. After
reading several threads related to the topic, noe seemed to resolve my
issue.
The pad has always worked fine as a plain PS/2 mouse, from 2.4.0 through
2.6.10.
This change fixes the problem by NOT disabling hardware tapping:
--- linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c~2005-02-24 
18:16:03.0 -0500
+++ linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c 2005-02-24 18:16:03.0 
-0500
@@ -334,8 +334,8 @@
if (alps_get_status(psmouse, param))
return -1;
-   if (param[0]  0x04)
-   alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
+// if (param[0]  0x04)
+// alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
printk(KERN_ERR alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n);
@@ -372,11 +372,11 @@
return -1;
}
-   if (param[0]  0x04) {
-   printk(KERN_INFO   Disabling hardware tapping\n);
-   if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
-   printk(KERN_WARNING alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
tapping\n);
-   }
+// if (param[0]  0x04) {
+// printk(KERN_INFO   Disabling hardware tapping\n);
+// if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
+// printk(KERN_WARNING alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
tapping\n);
+// }
if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
printk(KERN_ERR alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n);

So now, can anyone explain what bit 3 of param[0] does, and why you would
want to disable hardware tapping support when it's set? My pad (ALPS
56AAA1760C on a Sager NP8560V) has always worked with hardware tapping as a
plain PS/2 mouse, no special ALPS support req'd.
Can this disabling of hardware tapping support be made optional (boot time
param or other)? I don't want to have to patch every kernel from here on
out.
Regards,
Ian Morgan
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Re: ALPS tapping disabled. WHY?

2005-02-24 Thread Dmitry Torokhov
On Thursday 24 February 2005 18:29, Ian E. Morgan wrote:
 Trying out 2.6.11-rc5, I discovered my ALPS touchpad misbehaving. After
 reading several threads related to the topic, noe seemed to resolve my
 issue.
 
 The pad has always worked fine as a plain PS/2 mouse, from 2.4.0 through
 2.6.10.
 
 This change fixes the problem by NOT disabling hardware tapping:
 
 --- linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c~  2005-02-24 
 18:16:03.0 -0500
 +++ linux-2.6.11-rc5/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c   2005-02-24 
 18:16:03.0 -0500
 @@ -334,8 +334,8 @@
   if (alps_get_status(psmouse, param))
   return -1;
 
 - if (param[0]  0x04)
 - alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
 +//   if (param[0]  0x04)
 +//   alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0);
 
   if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
   printk(KERN_ERR alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n);
 @@ -372,11 +372,11 @@
   return -1;
   }
 
 - if (param[0]  0x04) {
 - printk(KERN_INFO   Disabling hardware tapping\n);
 - if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
 - printk(KERN_WARNING alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
 tapping\n);
 - }
 +//   if (param[0]  0x04) {
 +//   printk(KERN_INFO   Disabling hardware tapping\n);
 +//   if (alps_tap_mode(psmouse, 0))
 +//   printk(KERN_WARNING alps.c: Failed to disable hardware 
 tapping\n);
 +//   }
 
   if (alps_absolute_mode(psmouse)) {
   printk(KERN_ERR alps.c: Failed to enable absolute mode\n);
 
 
 
 So now, can anyone explain what bit 3 of param[0] does, and why you would
 want to disable hardware tapping support when it's set? My pad (ALPS
 56AAA1760C on a Sager NP8560V) has always worked with hardware tapping as a
 plain PS/2 mouse, no special ALPS support req'd.
 
 Can this disabling of hardware tapping support be made optional (boot time
 param or other)? I don't want to have to patch every kernel from here on
 out.
 

It still should do software tap emulation (although support is a bit flakey
with ALPS I must admit, but there are patches that should improve it) - so
people who don't like tapping can deactivate it.

Anyway, psmouse.proto=exps boot option should disable ALPS native mode and
restore previous behavior.

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