Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Ortwin Glück

On 08.11.2012 15:14, Luming Yu wrote:

hmmmake sens? maybe we can't use tmp-on-tmpfs feature in f18

but why not having disk to backup tmpfs under memory pressure?


It should. tmpfs should use all available RAM+swap. But then I guess you 
have no swap, and the kernel simply is desperately trying to find memory 
for a slab/slub or whatever. OOM killer can't help because the temp file 
uses the space, not a process.


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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Luming Yu
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Luming Yu  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Ortwin Glück  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08.11.2012 14:28, Luming Yu wrote:
>>>
>>> As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.
>>
>>
>> That's also pointing towards high memory pressure.
>
> watch "cat /proc/meminfo" just showed me the progress
> mutt  was creating a very large tmp file in /tmp/ until  "memfree" reached a
> watermark then failed with a message like " no space in /tmp"
>
> sounds like I can't use mutt if my mutt mail file is close to the
> physical memory
> I have when tmp-on-tmpfs is enabled..
>
> hmmmake sens? maybe we can't use tmp-on-tmpfs feature in f18
but why not having disk to backup tmpfs under memory pressure?
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Luming Yu
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Ortwin Glück  wrote:
>
>
> On 08.11.2012 14:28, Luming Yu wrote:
>>
>> As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.
>
>
> That's also pointing towards high memory pressure.

watch "cat /proc/meminfo" just showed me the progress
mutt  was creating a very large tmp file in /tmp/ until  "memfree" reached a
watermark then failed with a message like " no space in /tmp"

sounds like I can't use mutt if my mutt mail file is close to the
physical memory
I have when tmp-on-tmpfs is enabled..

hmmmake sens? maybe we can't use tmp-on-tmpfs feature in f18
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Ortwin Glück



On 08.11.2012 14:28, Luming Yu wrote:

As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.


That's also pointing towards high memory pressure.
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Luming Yu
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Ortwin Glück  wrote:
> To me this looks like an issue with swap. Can you try without swap
> (swapoff)?

Not sure but my random guess is it could be related to a small tmpfs
in my setting

tmpfs1869900  240   1869660   1% /tmp

As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.

Maybe it was just shrinking tmpfs caused problem? then I can think of
deleting tmpfs from my setup..

/l
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Ortwin Glück
To me this looks like an issue with swap. Can you try without swap 
(swapoff)?


Ortwin
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Ortwin Glück
To me this looks like an issue with swap. Can you try without swap 
(swapoff)?


Ortwin
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Luming Yu
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Ortwin Glück o...@odi.ch wrote:
 To me this looks like an issue with swap. Can you try without swap
 (swapoff)?

Not sure but my random guess is it could be related to a small tmpfs
in my setting

tmpfs1869900  240   1869660   1% /tmp

As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.

Maybe it was just shrinking tmpfs caused problem? then I can think of
deleting tmpfs from my setup..

/l
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Ortwin Glück



On 08.11.2012 14:28, Luming Yu wrote:

As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.


That's also pointing towards high memory pressure.
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Luming Yu
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Ortwin Glück o...@odi.ch wrote:


 On 08.11.2012 14:28, Luming Yu wrote:

 As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.


 That's also pointing towards high memory pressure.

watch cat /proc/meminfo just showed me the progress
mutt  was creating a very large tmp file in /tmp/ until  memfree reached a
watermark then failed with a message like  no space in /tmp

sounds like I can't use mutt if my mutt mail file is close to the
physical memory
I have when tmp-on-tmpfs is enabled..

hmmmake sens? maybe we can't use tmp-on-tmpfs feature in f18
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Luming Yu
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Luming Yu luming...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Ortwin Glück o...@odi.ch wrote:


 On 08.11.2012 14:28, Luming Yu wrote:

 As I just noticed that I couldn't quit from mutt due to tmpfs is full.


 That's also pointing towards high memory pressure.

 watch cat /proc/meminfo just showed me the progress
 mutt  was creating a very large tmp file in /tmp/ until  memfree reached a
 watermark then failed with a message like  no space in /tmp

 sounds like I can't use mutt if my mutt mail file is close to the
 physical memory
 I have when tmp-on-tmpfs is enabled..

 hmmmake sens? maybe we can't use tmp-on-tmpfs feature in f18
but why not having disk to backup tmpfs under memory pressure?
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Re: [headache] 3.7.0-rc2 can't handle mutt (with 3.7G mail file) +FF (4 tabs) on a 4G memory+4 core system ?

2012-11-08 Thread Ortwin Glück

On 08.11.2012 15:14, Luming Yu wrote:

hmmmake sens? maybe we can't use tmp-on-tmpfs feature in f18

but why not having disk to backup tmpfs under memory pressure?


It should. tmpfs should use all available RAM+swap. But then I guess you 
have no swap, and the kernel simply is desperately trying to find memory 
for a slab/slub or whatever. OOM killer can't help because the temp file 
uses the space, not a process.


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