Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-24 Thread Anton Blanchard

 
>The mirror at samba.org is too slow
> 
> It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
> out the performance problems with this site.

Thanks to some help from Tridge, Tim Potter, Hugh Blemings and a machine
from linuxcare vger.samba.org should be usable again :)

You can now grab stable and unstable trees using rsync. Details at
http://vger.samba.org/

Anton
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-24 Thread Anton Blanchard

 
The mirror at samba.org is too slow
 
 It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
 out the performance problems with this site.

Thanks to some help from Tridge, Tim Potter, Hugh Blemings and a machine
from linuxcare vger.samba.org should be usable again :)

You can now grab stable and unstable trees using rsync. Details at
http://vger.samba.org/

Anton
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David S. Miller

   Date:Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:14:09 +0200
   From: "Andi Kleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:22:49PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
   > It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
   > out the performance problems with this site.

   What happened to the openprojects.org mirror ? 

Unmaintained, was falling apart, then shut down because of that.

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Oliver Xymoron

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Keith Owens wrote:

> Yes.  I am usually up to date on pre patches within a few hours of
> their release, but then I have to play catch up to get my own patches
> up to date.  What I would like is the ability to see what is in the
> kernel CVS tree before the pre patch is sent out so I can get
> modutils/ksymoops/kdb patches ready ahead of the kernel patch release.

You're out of luck - Linus doesn't use CVS (at least for the kernel).
Perhaps we can convince Alan to do it for 2.2.x and set a precedent..

The closest we can get otherwise is to get HPA to hook CVS into
kernel.org's release system so that prepatches get added to public CVS
mirrors (cvs.xx.kernel.org?) more or less instantly. Hopefully a tighter
feedback loop (and more uptodate patch) from that might eventually
convince Linus to make live CVS available.

It'd also be nice if we formally adopted a four-digit versioning scheme.
The current ..-pre thing kinda sucks because (a b c) >
(a b c d).

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:27:36 -0700, 
Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:25:55PM +1100, Keith Owens wrote:
>> The ability to see checked in changes before Linus/Alan sends out a new
>> kernel patch would be the only reason for me to even look at BK.
>> Without the ability to get absolutely up to date sources, I may as well
>> wait for Linus/Alan to release a pre patch.
>
>So what's your point?  It's only useful if we are tracking Dave's tree on 
>a frequent basis?

Yes.  I am usually up to date on pre patches within a few hours of
their release, but then I have to play catch up to get my own patches
up to date.  What I would like is the ability to see what is in the
kernel CVS tree before the pre patch is sent out so I can get
modutils/ksymoops/kdb patches ready ahead of the kernel patch release.

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Larry McVoy

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 01:25:55PM +1100, Keith Owens wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:21:31 -0700, 
> Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >If there is any amount of interest in this, I think we have a hack where
> >we can repeatedly import a CVS repository and make it a BK repository.
> 
> The ability to see checked in changes before Linus/Alan sends out a new
> kernel patch would be the only reason for me to even look at BK.
> Without the ability to get absolutely up to date sources, I may as well
> wait for Linus/Alan to release a pre patch.

So what's your point?  It's only useful if we are tracking Dave's tree on 
a frequent basis?
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:21:31 -0700, 
Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If there is any amount of interest in this, I think we have a hack where
>we can repeatedly import a CVS repository and make it a BK repository.

The ability to see checked in changes before Linus/Alan sends out a new
kernel patch would be the only reason for me to even look at BK.
Without the ability to get absolutely up to date sources, I may as well
wait for Linus/Alan to release a pre patch.

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Larry McVoy

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:30:16PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
>From: David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT)
> 
>you may want to check the bitkeeper site, I think I remember
>hearing that they have a copy of the kernel they keep up to date.
> 
> No, he wants my live CVS tree which has all of my current Sparc and
> networking patches applied.

If there is any amount of interest in this, I think we have a hack where
we can repeatedly import a CVS repository and make it a BK repository.
So we could track Dave's tree until he realizes the error of his ways
and switchs to the One True Source Management System (tm)  :-)  Did ya
get the :-)

If you want BitMover to do this, let me know.  I sort of need to know
how widespread the interest is, if there is enough, I need to upgrade to
a full T1 line so that I can handle the load.  I have no problem doing
that but right now the partial is working fine and I see no reason to
just throw money away (I reserve that for my woodworking toys :-)
It won't take much, if 50 people say "yeah, that would be enough for
me to play with BK", we'll do it.  If it's 3 people, hey, kick Dave to
make the CVS tree work...
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Andi Kleen

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:22:49PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
>From: Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date:  Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:08:23 +1100
> 
>The mirror at samba.org is too slow
> 
> It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
> out the performance problems with this site.

What happened to the openprojects.org mirror ? 


-Andi

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David S. Miller

   From: David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT)

   you may want to check the bitkeeper site, I think I remember
   hearing that they have a copy of the kernel they keep up to date.

No, he wants my live CVS tree which has all of my current Sparc and
networking patches applied.

Later,
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David Lang

you may want to check the bitkeeper site, I think I remember hearing that
they have a copy of the kernel they keep up to date.

David Lang

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, David S. Miller wrote:

> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:22:49 -0700
> From: David S. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CVS for kernel
> 
>From: Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date:  Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:08:23 +1100
> 
>The mirror at samba.org is too slow
> 
> It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
> out the performance problems with this site.
> 
> Later,
> David S. Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David S. Miller

   From: Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date:Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:08:23 +1100

   The mirror at samba.org is too slow

It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
out the performance problems with this site.

Later,
David S. Miller
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David S. Miller

   From: Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date:Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:08:23 +1100

   The mirror at samba.org is too slow

It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
out the performance problems with this site.

Later,
David S. Miller
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David Lang

you may want to check the bitkeeper site, I think I remember hearing that
they have a copy of the kernel they keep up to date.

David Lang

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, David S. Miller wrote:

 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:22:49 -0700
 From: David S. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CVS for kernel
 
From: Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:08:23 +1100
 
The mirror at samba.org is too slow
 
 It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
 out the performance problems with this site.
 
 Later,
 David S. Miller
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David S. Miller

   From: David Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT)

   you may want to check the bitkeeper site, I think I remember
   hearing that they have a copy of the kernel they keep up to date.

No, he wants my live CVS tree which has all of my current Sparc and
networking patches applied.

Later,
David S. Miller
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Andi Kleen

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:22:49PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
From: Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:08:23 +1100
 
The mirror at samba.org is too slow
 
 It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
 out the performance problems with this site.

What happened to the openprojects.org mirror ? 


-Andi

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Larry McVoy

On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:30:16PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
From: David Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT)
 
you may want to check the bitkeeper site, I think I remember
hearing that they have a copy of the kernel they keep up to date.
 
 No, he wants my live CVS tree which has all of my current Sparc and
 networking patches applied.

If there is any amount of interest in this, I think we have a hack where
we can repeatedly import a CVS repository and make it a BK repository.
So we could track Dave's tree until he realizes the error of his ways
and switchs to the One True Source Management System (tm)  :-)  Did ya
get the :-)

If you want BitMover to do this, let me know.  I sort of need to know
how widespread the interest is, if there is enough, I need to upgrade to
a full T1 line so that I can handle the load.  I have no problem doing
that but right now the partial is working fine and I see no reason to
just throw money away (I reserve that for my woodworking toys :-)
It won't take much, if 50 people say "yeah, that would be enough for
me to play with BK", we'll do it.  If it's 3 people, hey, kick Dave to
make the CVS tree work...
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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:21:31 -0700, 
Larry McVoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there is any amount of interest in this, I think we have a hack where
we can repeatedly import a CVS repository and make it a BK repository.

The ability to see checked in changes before Linus/Alan sends out a new
kernel patch would be the only reason for me to even look at BK.
Without the ability to get absolutely up to date sources, I may as well
wait for Linus/Alan to release a pre patch.

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread Oliver Xymoron

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Keith Owens wrote:

 Yes.  I am usually up to date on pre patches within a few hours of
 their release, but then I have to play catch up to get my own patches
 up to date.  What I would like is the ability to see what is in the
 kernel CVS tree before the pre patch is sent out so I can get
 modutils/ksymoops/kdb patches ready ahead of the kernel patch release.

You're out of luck - Linus doesn't use CVS (at least for the kernel).
Perhaps we can convince Alan to do it for 2.2.x and set a precedent..

The closest we can get otherwise is to get HPA to hook CVS into
kernel.org's release system so that prepatches get added to public CVS
mirrors (cvs.xx.kernel.org?) more or less instantly. Hopefully a tighter
feedback loop (and more uptodate patch) from that might eventually
convince Linus to make live CVS available.

It'd also be nice if we formally adopted a four-digit versioning scheme.
The current a.b.c-pred thing kinda sucks because (a b c) 
(a b c d).

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Re: CVS for kernel

2000-10-10 Thread David S. Miller

   Date:Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:14:09 +0200
   From: "Andi Kleen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:22:49PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
It is the only anoncvs available sorry.  We'll have to work
out the performance problems with this site.

   What happened to the openprojects.org mirror ? 

Unmaintained, was falling apart, then shut down because of that.

Later,
David S. Miller
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