Re: x86 PAT errata
H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:Mikael Pettersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > >> Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... >> Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? >> If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. >> In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 >> imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB >> pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. >> > > > All of the above. Sounds like PAT should be declared broken on these > chips. > > -hpa We can do set PAT entry one to be write combined. Currently it doesn't look like anyone is using write through page mapping anywhere in the kernel (Just PAGE_PWT set). Am I correct in that assumption? -Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: x86 PAT errata
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:Mikael Pettersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... > Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? > If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. > In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 > imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB > pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. > All of the above. Sounds like PAT should be declared broken on these chips. -hpa -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at work, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: x86 PAT errata
Jeff Hartmann wrote: > > Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... > > Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? > > If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. > > In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 > > imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB > > pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. > ... > Yes it does use PSE/PAE paging. Could you point me to these errata > documents? According to the documentation I've seen it says that only > the low four PAT entries work for 4MB pages. I've never seen > documentation that says the same is true for 4k pages. They're called "Specification Updates" and are available at developer.intel.com in the same place you get the manuals and other docs. The Pentium III one is at http://developer.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/specupdt/. According to the errata, one bit which should be used for selecting PAT entry is forced to zero for 4KB pages, which limits them to the low four PAT entries. Large pages get to use all entries. /Mikael - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: x86 PAT errata
Mikael Pettersson wrote: > Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... > Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? > If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. > In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 > imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB > pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. > > /Mikael > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ Yes it does use PSE/PAE paging. Could you point me to these errata documents? According to the documentation I've seen it says that only the low four PAT entries work for 4MB pages. I've never seen documentation that says the same is true for 4k pages. -Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
x86 PAT errata
Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. /Mikael - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
x86 PAT errata
Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. /Mikael - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: x86 PAT errata
Jeff Hartmann wrote: Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. ... Yes it does use PSE/PAE paging. Could you point me to these errata documents? According to the documentation I've seen it says that only the low four PAT entries work for 4MB pages. I've never seen documentation that says the same is true for 4k pages. They're called "Specification Updates" and are available at developer.intel.com in the same place you get the manuals and other docs. The Pentium III one is at http://developer.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/specupdt/. According to the errata, one bit which should be used for selecting PAT entry is forced to zero for 4KB pages, which limits them to the low four PAT entries. Large pages get to use all entries. /Mikael - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: x86 PAT errata
Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:Mikael Pettersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. All of the above. Sounds like PAT should be declared broken on these chips. -hpa -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] at work, [EMAIL PROTECTED] in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: x86 PAT errata
H. Peter Anvin wrote: Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:Mikael Pettersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel Before people get too exited about the x86 Page Attribute Table ... Does Linux use mode B (CR4.PSE=1) or mode C (CR4.PAE=1) paging? If so, known P6 errata must be taken into account. In particular, Pentium III errata E27 and Pentium II errata A56 imply that only the low four PAT entries are working for 4KB pages, if CR4.PSE or CR4.PAE is enabled. All of the above. Sounds like PAT should be declared broken on these chips. -hpa We can do set PAT entry one to be write combined. Currently it doesn't look like anyone is using write through page mapping anywhere in the kernel (Just PAGE_PWT set). Am I correct in that assumption? -Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/