Re: GPL enforced
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 10:07 +0200, Neil Stockbridge wrote: > D-Link have made it on to my shit list along with Maxtor and Seagate. > it isn't the first time D-Link has acted like scum either: Interesting... do you know if there are any websites that list manufacturers that have had negative run-ins with Free software or OSS? It can be hard to keep up to date with the tech news, and would be useful to be able to refer to a website quickly before buying something. Hugo
Re: FW: Amazing 19" Wide Screen Deal
On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 14:04 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Before anyone does something rash, those who followed my photo talk part > 2 will know that this model is unsuitable for photographic work, and > why. I don't care if anyone wants to buy it, but as usual, it's better > to inform yourself what you're in for before parting with cash. Hi Volker, I didn't see you photo talk, but am intrigued at what would make a screen suitable or otherwise for photo work? Maybe you can point my to some links. Cheers, Hugo Vincent.
Re: Roll-your-own boot CD
Don: Come on mate. We shouldn't have to put up with all these long email rants every day. On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 00:03 +1200, Don Gould wrote: > Welcome to the ranks of people who feel it's important to tell me off > like I'm a child. > > I have to confess I've become complacent in recent times because I don't > get problems when ever I click on the 'install updates' icon in XP. > I've got used to the software just working. Maybe the CLUG and free software in general are just not for you then. No one is forcing you to use Linux etc. > Now I've got people demanding that I am removed from this list, when all > I'm trying to do is learn and get stuff to work. If you want to learn and get stuff to work, insulting and annoying the local community is probably not the best way to go about it. Please don't be so defensive, please try not to talk down to people, please try to calm down and think if what you are writing is on topic, and most of all, please don't flood the list with endless (mostly OT) messages.
Re: Roll-your-own boot CD
On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 13:09 +1200, Don Gould wrote: > I don't know who JT is, but I hope it caused you some amusement :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuttle,_Oklahoma#CentOS_Incident > > Seriously... For those of you who my rant wasn't directed, I hope you > smiled and laughed. :) > > Cheers Don > > Adrian Robertson wrote: > > Don Gould wrote: > >> I've been in IT for 20 years!!! I *have* the skills to know when it's a > >> rabit hole! > >> > > I couldn't help thinking of Jerry Taylor from Tuttle when I read this. > > > > Adrian. >
Re: HELP RFC Community Node Network...
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 14:54 +1200, Don Gould wrote: > TC only provide up to 10mbit within their nodes. I'm proposing 100mbit > on wire and 54mbit by wifi. That's ten times the capacity. Good luck actually getting the full 54 Mbit in a real wireless network. Even if you get 10 Mbit over WiFi (over any useful distance, with more than 1 client on the network) I think you'd be doing pretty well. Wireless is not a panacea.
Re: kino
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 22:52 +1200, Adrian.Mageanu wrote: > Great, it worked! > > Thanks > > Any idea how I can find what is wrong with those plugins? > > Cheers, > > Adrian No idea sorry, I've never even used Kino. My suggestion to disable those plugins was just a guess from looking at the error messages. Cheers, Hugo.
Re: kino
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 19:18 +1200, Adrian.Mageanu wrote: > Hi, got some problems with kino, it crashes just after issuing the > command with a lot of error messages. > > What am I missing? > ... ... > >> Searching /usr/lib/kino-gtk2 for plugins > >>> Registering plugin /usr/lib/kino-gtk2/libdvtitler.so > >>> Registering plugin /usr/lib/kino-gtk2/libtimfx.so > > (kino:4858): Gnome-CRITICAL **: gnome_program_get_app_id: assertion > `program != NULL' failed It seems the problem started here, can you try disabling the timfx plugin? > ... Obtained 10 stack frames. > kino [0x8073278] > [0x4ee67420] > /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_type_check_instance_cast+0x2c) > [0x4fc7291c] > /usr/lib/kino-gtk2/libdvtitler.so(_ZN8DVTitler13DetachWidgetsEP7_GtkBin > +0x44) [0x160b14] And maybe the dvtitler plugin too? > kino(_ZN27PluginImageFilterRepository14InstallPluginsEP6Plugin+0x4e) > [0x80d8e6e]kino(_ZN10PageMagickC1EP10KinoCommon+0x1ec) [0x80db88c] > kino(_ZN10KinoCommonC1EP10_GtkWidget+0x324) [0x80ad234] > kino(kinoInitialise+0x26) [0x80e2c96] > kino(main+0x155) [0x80731d5] > /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xdc) [0x4f6b7724] > > Done dumping - exiting. > Deleting quicktime codecs
Re: very small linux portable
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: One year, one day, someone had a very small kinda notebook computer that ran linux. It was a notebook-like construction, ie the lid folds up and has a screen in it, but it was only about half the size of a typical notebook. What are these things called, and can anyone recommend models and suppliers? Thanks much, Volker Maybe a Sharp Zaurus -- they run Qtopia - an embedded Qt-based environment ontop of Linux. http://www.zaurususergroup.org/ http://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/index.html
NBR article about Linux in govt.
http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp? id=13257&cid=3&cname=Technology Someone should really help the author get his facts straight. He cites the Microsoft "Get the facts" page regarding Linux vs Windows cost of ownership.. Hugo
Re: Comms program
Have you seen ser2net -- its in apt on debian. It makes serial ports available over telnet (i.e. you can telnet into say port 3000 and that will be ttyS0 and port 3001 will be ttyS1 etc). It might either serve your purposes directly, or give you some clues to help you fix your one? Cheers, Hugo Vincent. On 3/09/2005, at 8:58 PM, Paul Parkyn wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:40, Isaac Devine wrote: The 2.6 tty layer has started to have some major rework done on it lately. Would drivers/kernel-version are you using? You could try an earlier kernel version - something like 2.6.8 (highest aval. on deb stable). What is the driver you are trying to compile? (Or is it something closed source that you are not able to share?) I am struggling a little to understand what it is you are trying to do. pty devices are already in the kernel. OTOH maybe I don't understand enough about pty devices :) Real Quick Guide to the Linux serial and tty subsystem/layer: ttys are just serial ports with some extra(character) handling on top - stuff like escape character handling etc. On linux serial ports and ttys are treated pretty much the same. ie. : System calls for handling serial ports are the same as those for tty devices. A serial port is just a file - /dev/ttyS* etc. ptys are user-emulated tty's - things like gnome-terminal, xterm etc. create these. (I'm not too sure how completely they emulate them tho). I think Paul meant a fake serial(tty) device? HTH, Isaac Hi Nick & Isaac, The driver is probably best described as a com port redirector, to the program it looks like a standard serial tty device the driver sends its output via the network. The program was originally written for a 2.4 kernel I have tried using a 2.4 Redhat 7.1 system and a 2.6.8.1-12mdk Mandrake 10.1 system. With the 2.6 kernel the tty struct appears to have been changed compared to the 2.4 so get a lot of errors . The driver is part of a package called Termnet-3.1 the pseudo tty driver code has been modified by Sena Technology to work with their Serial to Ethernet hardware. There is four parts , the pty driver, a tty Daemon, a vtty manager program and the Termnet program. The tty daemon and the pty driver work as a master/slave combination. The vtty manager is used to configure the devices. Thanks for your input, I´ll leave it for awhile and do a bit more reading, was hoping there might be a comms program that would do the job. I´ll have a look at the Glabels program, thanks Isaac regards Paul
Re: Minimum hardware for LAMP server.
I bought a Dell Optiplex (small form factor corporate desktop) with a Pentium 3 733 MHz for $40 (from a friend, no RAM or HDD). I loaded it with an old 128 meg RAM stick I had lying around, and bought a 200 gig hard disc for it. Total cost <$200, and it is a very respectable server. I use it mostly for file/music/backup storage at home over NFS (because my main computer is a laptop with a small HDD), and also as a web server. Runs Debian Sarge (quite a minimal install). The computer was cheaper than a USB/Firewire enclosure for the hard drive. I thoroughly recommend the Dell Optiplex, because it is very compact and virtually silent, and uses about 90 watts of power at full load. They can be had from Trade Me for under a hundred dollars including RAM and HDD. On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 15:06 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:54:33 +1200 > yuri wrote: > > > It's time to teach myself a bit of PHP and MySQL. > > For $20 I can get a P166 with 64MB RAM and a few gigs of HD from Molten > > Media. > > My first project will be a little addressbook webapp (that's not too > > ambitious is it?) > > no that sounds acheivable, there should be plenty of howtos around. > > > > > What would be the minimum hardware requirement? Would the $20 box suffice? > > dicey i would have thought. I have a p233 here at the office with 64M > RAM which used to be my postfix|cyrus|apache|samba|anything else server > but it proved too slow to serve mailbxes with 10k massage folders, and > now sits around looking busy and just serving files via samba. It does > just that just fine. > > IMHO the machine you are looking at will just do what you want, but it > will be slow about it and you'll be wishing you spent $50. Something > nearer the 3-400M mark with 128M of RAM will "serve" you much better. > > > > Also, what distro would be installable on that, with Apache, MySQL and PHP. > > (No X11 required - it won't even have a screen attached). > > I would look at debian (or minimal ubuntu). (Actually i would compile a > minimal gentoo system on my desktop, than transfer it over and use > gentoo, but I am just perverse like that) > > > > > Yuri > > -- > > ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** > > Gmail over-rides "Reply-To:" field. Check your "To:" address before > > sending reply to this post. >
Re: wget, but for >2GB
curl is quite similar to wget; it might suffer from the same problem, but could be worth a try. Volker Kuhlmann wrote: So far I've been using wget as it's very simple: dump a bunch of ftp/http/etc URLs on the command line or into some file, call wget, done. Well until one of the files is >2GB. If it didn't even start I wouldn't say anything, if it downloaded 2GB and then exited stage left I wouldn't care either, but no, wget downloads 2GB, poops itself, deletes all the downloaded 2GB, and starts again from the zero bytes mark. Grrr. Is there something better? lftp was mentioned, but it needs fuffling with stupid ftp commands, ie isn't as user friendly. Thanks, Volker
Re: free wifi hotspot
On 3/04/2005, at 11:53 AM, Nick Rout wrote: Haven't tried it, but I may slide in there with my trusty Zaurus and suss it out. Nick, where did you manage to source your Zaurus from? I can't find anywhere that will ship to NZ. trademe.co.nz - its an sl-5500, unfortunatley not one of the clamshell later models. I think these places ship to NZ: http://www.pricejapan.com/PriceJapan_com.htm http://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/index.html
Poor performance with ATI graphics
Hi everyone, Has anyone been able to get good 3D graphics performance under Ubuntu with a ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 graphics chip (on a Compaq Evo n800v laptop)? 3D _works_, but I get unbearably slow 3D - e.g. 40 fps in GLXgears (strangely it's only using about 5% CPU load so probably not a SW renderer). The radeon module is loaded and X is using it (according to lsmod and X config file respectively). glxinfo returns: ... OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20020611 AGP 1x x86/MMX/SSE TCL OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 4.0.4 ... I need decent GL performance for an app I am working on. It gets about 50 fps on my PowerBook, and about 0.8 fps on the Ubuntu laptop Any help or pointers to help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Hugo.
Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!
Back to the topic of this thread, the problem with Ubuntu on Johns computer is actually a documented bug (in Bugzilla) of the Ubuntu installer and has been fixed in Hoary. So he is just going to wait a month for Hoary, and use Warty on his laptop. Thanks for all the suggestions anyway :), Hugo. On 7/02/2005, at 10:34 PM, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 22:14 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: Am I missing something here? What I've seen of Ubuntu ( at a CLUG meeting ), it came across to me as a messy pile of , and a rather small, feature poor one at that. That, and the fact that they've gone out on a limb with the default security policy, do you mean the sudo thing/no root password? I have grown to like it. my first real introduction to unix (not counting Slackware 3 on a 386 back in the day - kernel 1.2!) was when I bought a Mac OS X box about three years ago, and sudo is how its done on OS X, so it seems completely natural for me under ubuntu. i find it really convenient when i type a command and hit enter and then realize it needs to be run as root, so hit [ctrl+a] and type sudo [enter] rather than su [enter] then re-type the command as root :) up to date kernel and packages on a debian like system (the primary advantage being apt i guess), regular release cycle, adherence to principles of openness/freedom, non commercial, free pressed cd's with sexy girls on the cover shipped anywhere in the world (the cd's not the girls). Jim will know more. I am not entirely convinced yet, its a most useful tool for the kit though. I wouldn't say it is feature poor, it is designed as a desktop system without the confusion caused by the choice of 4 browsers, three email programs, 10 IM clients and 47 million configuration tools. The main draw-cards for me were the Debian packaging system, openness/freeness - basically all the good stuff from Debian without the excessive choice :)
Re: SATA disks
The cables are thinner and easier to route in a tight space :) Thats seriously about the only advantage. And they might not work well in Linux depending on your BIOS (see my thread called: Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!) Hugo On 7/02/2005, at 3:57 PM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Serious question: suppose I intend to buy a new computer. Why should I get SATA drives? They cost more but perform the same, afterall it's the same disk just with a different interface. What exactly is the point? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!
The drive is ATA, but I think the BIOS makes it look like SATA, which Linux will see as SCSI, right? Haven't tried the Knoppix live-cd on it, but the Ubuntu Live cd freezes hard while booting (around the first tick of the progress bar - didn't check on the console what it was doing then sorry). And IIRC, Ubuntu live cd uses the same back end as Knoppix for hardware detection. Furthermore, there is an existing Suse 9.2 pro installation that works fine with more or less all the hardware, including the SATA hard drive and the optical drive. There are already hard drive partitions set up - he is going to install over the old Suse 9.2 Pro installation which has a 10 gig ext2 partition and a 1 gig swap partition. It really is a strange problem!! Thanks, Hugo. On 7/02/2005, at 3:27 PM, goldedge wrote: Hi is your optical drive scsi or ide? I suggest trying a Knoppix cd which will run independant of the hardware and may give you an idea of compatability with the hardware without an install? My other choice would be Mandrake 10.1 for a new user? Another tip would be to have the existing hard drive partitions set up before beginning the install as this makes it an install even easier. Regards Michael Sorry to do this, but anyway: **BUMP** Someone must have some ideas? Please :) -- Hugo. On 5/02/2005, at 4:58 PM, hjv15 wrote: Hi everyone, Last weekend I tried to install Ubuntu on a friends PC without luck (apparently the optical drive was unsupported...), and this weekend I gave it another go. We narrowed down the problem, and found it to be caused by the fact that his primary hard disc is on a SATA bus, and somehow as a result of this, it can't see the CDROM drive. It wants to insert the SCSI cdrom module, but breaks when it tries to automatically insert it - manually inserting the module also breaks (i.e. hangs). The main hard disc appears to be detected - there is a /dev entry called: /dev/scsi/disc0/bus0/target0/lun0/part0 through 7 (the correct number of partitions for the disc), but neither the VFAT partitions or the old EXT2 partitions (from an old SUSE install) could be mounted (manually). We tried a bunch of options in the BIOS too, including so-called "Combined Mode" which makes the SATA channels look like IDE channels, and "SATA-only" mode which makes the other PATA ide channels look like SATA devices. We even tried buying and connecting up a SATA-to-PATA adapter from DSE to make the optical drive look even more like a SATA device but that didn't help. Interestingly there are no /dev/hd* entries at all (in any of the BIOS modes). I thought we could make an ISO image of the CD and put it on the old ext2 partition, and mount that partition, then mount the ISO as loopback, and install off that? but couldn't mount the ext2 partition like I said before. Any suggestions? We are pretty much at the end of our tethers... Regards, Hugo. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 3/02/2005
Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!
Hi Steve, On 7/02/2005, at 2:49 PM, Steve Holdoway wrote: Suggestions... 1. Are you booting a linux 2.6 kernel? ( Ubuntu users comments??? ) yep, the installer is running under 2.6, and Ubuntu would be under 2.6 when it installs - course it won't install. 2. Is the system bios up to date? yep, tried that - its about a 2 months old, and there are no newer updates. 3. Have you thought of using a distro that does support SATA well? FC3? Debian testing? Maybe even Gentoo ( can't comment on that one... I'm doing my first install as we speak, and I'm finding it extremely convoluted and tedious - a few well placed scripts would make it so much less painful! ) Ha ha, well we *could* try another distro - after all Suse 9.2 Pro installed alright (but with a different optical drive and a couple of months ago) and it still works, but he would prefer Ubuntu on his machine. I got Ubuntu onto his laptop fine and he really likes it, and he wants his laptop and desktop to be as consistent as possible while he learns linux. So I guess Debian testing with Gnome would be a possibility. I am just really surprised Ubuntu doesn't like SATA. Has anyone on the list installed Ubuntu on a SATA primary drive? Thanks for your suggestions, keep em' coming :) Hugo. On 5/02/2005, at 4:58 PM, hjv15 wrote: Hi everyone, Last weekend I tried to install Ubuntu on a friends PC without luck (apparently the optical drive was unsupported...), and this weekend I gave it another go. We narrowed down the problem, and found it to be caused by the fact that his primary hard disc is on a SATA bus, and somehow as a result of this, it can't see the CDROM drive. It wants to insert the SCSI cdrom module, but breaks when it tries to automatically insert it - manually inserting the module also breaks (i.e. hangs). The main hard disc appears to be detected - there is a /dev entry called: /dev/scsi/disc0/bus0/target0/lun0/part0 through 7 (the correct number of partitions for the disc), but neither the VFAT partitions or the old EXT2 partitions (from an old SUSE install) could be mounted (manually). We tried a bunch of options in the BIOS too, including so-called "Combined Mode" which makes the SATA channels look like IDE channels, and "SATA-only" mode which makes the other PATA ide channels look like SATA devices. We even tried buying and connecting up a SATA-to-PATA adapter from DSE to make the optical drive look even more like a SATA device but that didn't help. Interestingly there are no /dev/hd* entries at all (in any of the BIOS modes). I thought we could make an ISO image of the CD and put it on the old ext2 partition, and mount that partition, then mount the ISO as loopback, and install off that? but couldn't mount the ext2 partition like I said before. Any suggestions? We are pretty much at the end of our tethers... Regards, Hugo.
Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!
Sorry to do this, but anyway: **BUMP** Someone must have some ideas? Please :) -- Hugo. On 5/02/2005, at 4:58 PM, hjv15 wrote: Hi everyone, Last weekend I tried to install Ubuntu on a friends PC without luck (apparently the optical drive was unsupported...), and this weekend I gave it another go. We narrowed down the problem, and found it to be caused by the fact that his primary hard disc is on a SATA bus, and somehow as a result of this, it can't see the CDROM drive. It wants to insert the SCSI cdrom module, but breaks when it tries to automatically insert it - manually inserting the module also breaks (i.e. hangs). The main hard disc appears to be detected - there is a /dev entry called: /dev/scsi/disc0/bus0/target0/lun0/part0 through 7 (the correct number of partitions for the disc), but neither the VFAT partitions or the old EXT2 partitions (from an old SUSE install) could be mounted (manually). We tried a bunch of options in the BIOS too, including so-called "Combined Mode" which makes the SATA channels look like IDE channels, and "SATA-only" mode which makes the other PATA ide channels look like SATA devices. We even tried buying and connecting up a SATA-to-PATA adapter from DSE to make the optical drive look even more like a SATA device but that didn't help. Interestingly there are no /dev/hd* entries at all (in any of the BIOS modes). I thought we could make an ISO image of the CD and put it on the old ext2 partition, and mount that partition, then mount the ISO as loopback, and install off that? but couldn't mount the ext2 partition like I said before. Any suggestions? We are pretty much at the end of our tethers... Regards, Hugo.
Re: linux on the desktop making inroads...
On 1/02/2005, at 8:48 AM, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
There are a lot of computing needs which are definitely not met by
Linux. Speech recognition is one, and don't start arguing that there
isn't a *need* here unless you want to make a fool out of yourself.
Engineering applications are next on my mind. Keeping your head in the
sand and proudly proclaiming "my needs are met by free software"
doesn't
address any of these problems. I was talking more in general, not about
you, you're not representative.
Engineering applications (especially those for electrical/electronics
engineering) are becoming increasingly available on Linux. For example,
at work we use Cadence PCB-design tools and Altera Quartus FPGA design
tools both on Linux. Many electronics tools ("EDA" tools) have their
roots in Unix workstations and many of the larger applications still
maintain their Unix/X11 versions - so porting to Linux is a natural
step.
Re: Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!
Thanks Nick, On 30/01/2005, at 9:35 PM, Nick Rout wrote: I thought we could try a network install (either over the internet or off my laptop?) but i couldn't find any instructions on how to do that. can someone please point me in the right direction? apparently there is no network install option for ubuntu, but you may be able to use deian's? oh dear... i would rather not try and hack a debian installer to do the task... i think we will try and swap out the dvd burner for a plain old cd drive and put the dvd burner back in later (there are one or two reports out there of it working ok under linux -but nothing ubuntu specific...) -- Hugo.
Ubuntu install failed - CD drive not supported!!
Hi everyone, Yesterday I tried to install Ubuntu on a friends PC - a much needed conversion as I see it - he's a devout windows junkie (but keen to try linux :)... So it got about 20 seconds into the install process, chose language and so on, then had a fatal error (still in the curses-installer) and said that the optical drive was unsupported! The drive was a fairly new sony dual layer dvd burner, but still its a damned ATAPI compatible drive, reading a plain old CD, whats so hard about that?? (Note its definitely not the media - it was the Ship-it pressed cd). It gave us an option of making a boot floppy, but the machine had no floppy drive... I thought we could try a network install (either over the internet or off my laptop?) but i couldn't find any instructions on how to do that. can someone please point me in the right direction? cheers, Hugo.
Re: slingshot dialup not authenticating
I don't know if you changed it before posting, but I wouldn't have thought that your username is "username"? On 27/01/2005, at 4:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just got a new slingshot dial-up but can't get authenticated. Details of the attempt are in the log attached. Modem dials, does handshake, sends password/username but slingshot doesn't reply. I'm using PAP authentication which I'm pretty sure is correct. pap-secrets exists with correct information in it. I've googled for the problem and answers point to modem init strings. I've also emailed slingshot but no reply from them. Dynalink 1456vqe-r1 external serial modem on Slackware-10 system. I've run pppsetup and tried various combinations of settings, esp different init strings (ATZ, AT&F ...). I previously (few weeks ago) was connecting to paradise.et ok but I don't have access to that account anymore so I can't test it out. I forgot to bring my pppscript and options files out to work today but if needed I can post them tomorrow. If anyone successfully connects to slingshot can I see your scripts? Any help would be great. Cheers, Tim 10:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/ppp# ppp-on 10:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/ppp# Jan 25 22:30:28 jessica pppd[1512]: pppd 2.4.2 started by root, uid 0 Serial connection established. using channel 3 Jan 25 22:30:53 jessica pppd[1512]: Serial connection established. Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem Jan 25 22:30:53 jessica pppd[1512]: Using interface ppp0 Jan 25 22:30:53 jessica pppd[1512]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1]sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 ] rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 ] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 ] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x2 user="username" password=] rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 52 65 71 75 65 73 74 20 44 65 6e 69 65 64] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x3 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x4 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x5 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x6 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x7 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x8 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x9 user="username" password=] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0xa user="username" password=] No response to PAP authenticate-requests sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Failed to authenticate ourselves to peer"] Jan 25 22:31:24 jessica pppd[1512]: No response to PAP authenticate-requests sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "Failed to authenticate ourselves to peer"] Modem hangup Connection terminated. Jan 25 22:31:28 jessica pppd[1512]: Modem hangup Jan 25 22:31:28 jessica pppd[1512]: Connection terminated. Jan 25 22:31:29 jessica pppd[1512]: Exit.
Re: Dressing up as Google - A Spider suit of my very own.
Check out www.bugmenot.com You type in the URL, they tell you a log in you can use. Works for most of the free registration required sites I look at. Regards, Hugo On 25/01/2005, at 5:19 PM, John Carter wrote: I'm peeved. Too many web sites are hiding behind %$#% "free registrations". They invite me in by letting Google spider them, and then keep me out with a [EMAIL PROTECTED] registration window. I'm sick of it. Has anyone been spidered by Google recently, if so, can you have a look in your /var/log/apache/access.log to see what the google spider reports its useragent as? I want to build me a spiderman suit for my browser... John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Zealand "The notes I handle no better than many pianists. But the pauses between the notes - ah, that is where the art resides!' - Artur Schnabel
Re: SOT: Car Inverter
On 21/01/2005, at 2:57 PM, C. Falconer wrote: BTW - my laptop draws 24W while not charging and 33W while charging. I could run 11 laptops at once off this, or 9 charging laptops. Is that _measured_ consumption or what the manual/label on the laptop says it should use? Also is this on the DC/laptop side of the power supplu, or the AC/mains side? They seem quite low? My Powerbook maxs out at 45W on the AC mains side of the power supply (according to the probably-conservative label on it). So thats probably 30W used by the laptop, worst case.
Re: Mandrake 10.1 Official and autoconf/automake
In (small) defence of Mdk, expecting a decent Linux system ready-to-roll on only 3 CDs is pushing expectations a bit far, or have I been spoilt too much? Ubuntu is only one CD! But - yes, it is missing heaps of stuff from the CD - i had to apt-get about 2 gig of stuff when I first installed it!
Changing UI fonts of commercial X11 apps
Hi everyone, Is it possible to change the default UI fonts of commercial proprietary applications like Acroread, VMware or Eagle PCB-CAD? The defaults in these apps are HUGE (especially Eagle), as in twice the size of the Gnome fonts. My distro is Ubuntu Warty. Cheers, Hugo.
Re: Word Count Help
for i in `ls`; do wc $i; done or some variation there of ? there is probably a better way :-/ On 11/01/2005, at 7:14 PM, John Rye wrote: Mental blockage!! Lots of googling hasn't helped much. Could someone show me how to count the total number of words in a group of files which are located in the same directory? Cheers John
Re: Ubuntu queries
Just following this up, does ANYONE on this list use anti-virus software on their linux systems (excluding any filtering on email gateways and the like)? Hugo. To Woodsey: Linux is not windoes :-/ In a PC magazine I saw, they had the shortest one in 4 minutes and the longest in 4 hours - they must of had a slower internet connection :). On 11/01/2005, at 1:00 PM, Rob Wood wrote: Thanks David and Chris, My paranoia is well founded but I'll take your words for it and run without virus protection. I saw an article in one of the PC magazines where they ran a batch of different Windows machines (6 I think) on the Internet without protection. From memory, longest lasting was about 2 hours, the shortest was 30 seconds, THIRTY SECONDS!! Impressed? Cheers - Woodsey -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.10 - Release Date: 10/01/2005
Which RSS aggregator/reader?
Hi everyone, What RSS aggregator do you recommend? I would prefer a GNOME/GTK-based client. I have looked at the websites Straw, Blam and Liferea but they all look quite immature - I would be surprised if there is not a more mature RSS client for GNOME! Thanks, Hugo.
Re: OT: Python book "Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner"
I don't like the idea of "easy programming languages". Something you can use later and for useful programs is better. I think that's more encouraging than some nice output or games and creating something usefull is what programming is mostly about. And Python isn't a useful language I find Python to be a lot more productive and useful that Java ever will be for what I use it for!
Re: OT: Python book "Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner"
On 6/01/2005, at 10:15 AM, Derek Smithies wrote: There is a holy war brewing here - what language to learn? Is it python, C++, pike, D, perl, bash, Ruby, (memory failing here - the list is endless). Yep, its Python :) Hugo.
Re: Allowing a normal user to run a command (shutdown) as root
OK this worked! Thanks. Hugo. On 5/01/2005, at 8:10 AM, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Use "chmod u+s /sbin/shutdown" then everyone can use "/sbin/shutdown -h 0" or something.
Re: Allowing a normal user to run a command (shutdown) as root
HI John,
On 5/01/2005, at 9:29 AM, John Rye wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:45:53 +1300
Hugo Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I set up a PC for my parents to do their email on, with Mandrake 10
and
Firefox/Thunderbird, but for some reason, their is no Shutdown item on
the menu. I can't remember how to allow the normal user to run
/sbin/shutdown as root (something in /etc/sudoers perhaps)? Can
someone
please shed some light on the situation.
Why would id be needed? Afterall you say you have them using Firefox
and Thunderbird.
Why not use the logout option from the the main menu and at the next
gui
panel select "Turn off Compter Now" and click "OK"
Seems a great simpler from my point of view.
Mucking about with heaps of scripts to get around what I think is a
'standard' safety feature is not going to make any difference to your
parents in the long term anyway,
And! If you've converted them from Windows - they'll be used to the vey
same sequence anyway!
You young fellers have gotta start remembering that your parents' "new
idea" processing skills are no way near as capabable as yours any more
that your own can match the those capabilities if a say 5 year-old!
KISS
John
Thats what I would have liked to do, but for some reason the menu
options are not there! Selecting logout from the KDE desktop only
allows you to log out (not shut down) and the kdm login screen does not
have shutdown or restart buttons either - I don't know why - my other
Mandrake installation had them by default. I suspect that they aren't
there because I installed it with the High Security Level option
(figuring that they are less likely to break anything then). I thought
I could add a item on the KDE "start" menu that called shutdown -h now,
but that didn't work ("you must be root to do this"). I will try the
chmod u+s method suggested by Robert Himmelmann tonight.
Thanks,
Hugo.
Allowing a normal user to run a command (shutdown) as root
Hi everybody, I set up a PC for my parents to do their email on, with Mandrake 10 and Firefox/Thunderbird, but for some reason, their is no Shutdown item on the menu. I can't remember how to allow the normal user to run /sbin/shutdown as root (something in /etc/sudoers perhaps)? Can someone please shed some light on the situation. Cheers, Hugo.
Linux PDAs
Hi everyone, Just wondering if anyone uses Linux PDAs - Zaurus or iPaq converted to Linux? Is there a user group/mailing list for that? Cheers, Hugo.
Re: Home wiring
You can get so-called 'baluns' to send unbalanced signals like consumer AV signals over a balanced media like twisted pair wiring. Although I think they are designed more for security cameras so the quality may not be that great. Try Jaycar, Dick Smith, Global PC / Altronics and places like that. Hugo. On 14/12/2004, at 10:51 AM, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: You can extend the concept by considering each wire as 4 pairs of wire, or 8 individual wires, and use them for any purpose you choose. Andy Well that begs the question - can audio and video be transmitted via the Cat5e and RJ45? Or is there a better way? We will probably have a "multimedia PC" adjacent to our home entertainment centre and I was considering running audio and video cables from my PC station to the entertainment centre also. Any better suggestions? Rob
Re: What do I give my "parents" [OT.. Macs]
Derek, On 29/11/2004, at 1:22 PM, Derek Smithies wrote: However, (in my defense) I note a certain sadness. We read often of comments, "linux is ready for the desktop" and the like. Yet, if people on the linux list are advocating that "my parents" get a mac, then clearly those comments on the readiness of linux are wrong linux has to improve its usability. Indeed, watching the recent spate of emails from our Hari Krishna friend, I have to agree with you Hugo. Linux is not ready for "my parents" to use I think that Linux on the desktop is quite usable and intuitive in general, but it is setting it all up, and fixing problems that needs MAJOR improvement. I sometimes struggle with setting things up under linux (e.g. the Synaptics touchpad driver on my PC laptop - builds fine, manually installs fine, edit XFConfig manually fine, reboot. crashes. whoops forgot to modprobe evdev in the init scripts...) An eMac will arrive from the factory completely set up, they just have to plug in power, keyboard, mouse and maybe a modem/phone line, and turn it on. Although they would probably never have any problems with a Mac, if they did, a) the error messages are a lot more helpfull, and b) there is an 0800 helpline they could call. They will never have any problems with hardware or drivers, because basically if its not built in its not supported :) To install software, they just drag the its icon on the CD to the hard drive. To set up the ISP they just type in the phone number, user name and password when asked during the first start-up/welcome/run-once program that comes up. Regards, Hugo.
Re: What do I give my "parents" [OT.. Macs]
Derek, Hmm, well i don't want to start another Mac-Vs-Linux flamewar... I use both Mac and Linux daily (and in my opinion, Mac is better :) but that is irrelevant, the point is that a Mac is undoubtedly easier to use for beginners, and you did say that: a) they are in Invercargill b) cannot be bothered with joining a *lug group c) expect to have something that "just" works. Part (c) in particular just cries out "get a Mac" - they just work day in day out. An eMac is about NZ$1500 i think and I can personally guarantee that it will last longer than cheap PC hardware. Or you could get a second hand one - my brother uses a 450MHz G4 as his main machine and it is very fast and very usable. I am on the CLUG group because I work with embedded linux and as such inevitably use Linux on a variety of machines. Hugo On 29/11/2004, at 12:49 PM, Derek Smithies wrote: Hugo, the implication from your suggestion, "Get them a Mac" is that a) I have lots of money (false) b) Mac is superior in many ways to linux What are you doing on the clug group? Derek. On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Hugo Vincent wrote: Get them a Mac. On 29/11/2004, at 12:09 PM, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, For the sake of the discussion, I will use the phrase, "my parents". In fact, I am referring to a potential new linux user, who maybe any age. The reason I ask, is that I have had this conversation with many people, and wondered what the consensus is. My parents have a win 95 machine, that is loaded down with avg etc etc, and cannot send email. what do you think would best suit my parents. semi computer literate. long term exposure to windows 95 notion of folders/directories is a bit vague they need a)email, b)webbrowsing, c)office. " Here is the sticky bit: However, given that a) they are in Invercargill b) cannot be bothered with joining a *lug group c) expect to have something that "just" works. Let me explain the requirements. They are in Invercargill, so a support trip is not easy. For that matter, they could be in Christchurch, but I cannot see them for the next 4 days. So, the actual amount of my support required better be low low. The are not going to joing *lug group to get help. No way are they going to download 10-100 messages a day, filter out the non useful answers etc. yes, filters "work", but they cannot be bothered with installing/using them. Worse, some of the answers are intensely time consuming. Video problems? Ah, go read www.xfree86.org, or, search google When you buy an appliance from the store, you take it home, plug it in, and it just works. Breadmakers, video recorders, cars take minimal effort to get going. Why is the same not true of computers? == In an offline discussion, Nick made the comment:: yes its annoying that they haven't made a computer that just works yet. certainly microsoft is not the answer for them, given this post i read this morning on nzlug. http://www.linux.net.nz/lists/NZLUG/2004/11/0394.html Its that damn flexibilty thing, it implies complication. I wiuld try ubuntu, it gives them a straight up sensible defaults for browsing (firefox) , email (evolution) and it has OOo. They do not need to choose between konqueror, mozilla and firefox, nor between kmail, evo and mutt, nor between abiword, lyx and OOo. Its the sort of thing that would require a newer computer if they bought their last one with w95. Its also the sort of thing that you'd want to spend the weekend with them installing and explaining, but they should be able to grok firefox, evolution and OOo if they have used the MS fare. Are guis ever going to change? apart from getting prettier, the point. click, drag concept has been pretty constant for a while now. = Derek. -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. This PC runs pine on linux for email IndraNet Technologies Ltd. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine ph +64 3 365 6485 Please do not notify me when (apparently) receiving a Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/ windows virus from me.. -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. This PC runs pine on linux for email IndraNet Technologies Ltd. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine ph +64 3 365 6485 Please do not notify me when (apparently) receiving a Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/ windows virus from me..
Re: What do I give my "parents"
Get them a Mac. On 29/11/2004, at 12:09 PM, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, For the sake of the discussion, I will use the phrase, "my parents". In fact, I am referring to a potential new linux user, who maybe any age. The reason I ask, is that I have had this conversation with many people, and wondered what the consensus is. My parents have a win 95 machine, that is loaded down with avg etc etc, and cannot send email. what do you think would best suit my parents. semi computer literate. long term exposure to windows 95 notion of folders/directories is a bit vague they need a)email, b)webbrowsing, c)office. " Here is the sticky bit: However, given that a) they are in Invercargill b) cannot be bothered with joining a *lug group c) expect to have something that "just" works. Let me explain the requirements. They are in Invercargill, so a support trip is not easy. For that matter, they could be in Christchurch, but I cannot see them for the next 4 days. So, the actual amount of my support required better be low low. The are not going to joing *lug group to get help. No way are they going to download 10-100 messages a day, filter out the non useful answers etc. yes, filters "work", but they cannot be bothered with installing/using them. Worse, some of the answers are intensely time consuming. Video problems? Ah, go read www.xfree86.org, or, search google When you buy an appliance from the store, you take it home, plug it in, and it just works. Breadmakers, video recorders, cars take minimal effort to get going. Why is the same not true of computers? == In an offline discussion, Nick made the comment:: yes its annoying that they haven't made a computer that just works yet. certainly microsoft is not the answer for them, given this post i read this morning on nzlug. http://www.linux.net.nz/lists/NZLUG/2004/11/0394.html Its that damn flexibilty thing, it implies complication. I wiuld try ubuntu, it gives them a straight up sensible defaults for browsing (firefox) , email (evolution) and it has OOo. They do not need to choose between konqueror, mozilla and firefox, nor between kmail, evo and mutt, nor between abiword, lyx and OOo. Its the sort of thing that would require a newer computer if they bought their last one with w95. Its also the sort of thing that you'd want to spend the weekend with them installing and explaining, but they should be able to grok firefox, evolution and OOo if they have used the MS fare. Are guis ever going to change? apart from getting prettier, the point. click, drag concept has been pretty constant for a while now. = Derek. -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. This PC runs pine on linux for email IndraNet Technologies Ltd. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine ph +64 3 365 6485 Please do not notify me when (apparently) receiving a Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/ windows virus from me..
Re: Installfest - Macs /Linux ppc
On 8/07/2004, at 5:56 PM, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thursday 08 July 2004 13:12, Nick Rout wrote: Posting this to the both lists in an effort to catch the right people. I have read / skimmed the whole thread. Sorry I have been out this afternoon. There are at least two registrations for Mac's at the installfest. One of them - the ibook - got stolen and we won't therefore be installing on it. This brings to mind two things: 1. Who has experience with installing on a mac? Your experience would be valued. Colin, the 'Varsity Mac Guru is coming. The owner of the other machine is bringing his beehive + floating screen G4(?) at approx 10:30. So if this would not be ok with Colin please could somewone let him know. 'Phone # in Database. Thogether I'm sure Colin & I will be able to come up with a suitable solution. 2. What distro? Yellowdog, Mandrake, Debian and Gentoo are known to have ppc versions. Gentoo is probably out for logistical reasons. Debian has been discounted for the x86 installs and the same may go for ppc, I do not know. Google on suse ppc reveals that there may be such a beast but i can't find out much about it, let alone a download source. I'd go with YDL for the first try and have Gentoo in reserve. It is possible to do a Gentoo binary only install from the CDs relatively :-) quickly. I would not bother with the other offerings. Currently , the machine is fully backed up and is partitioned into 2 partitions. We will presumably have to re-do the second partition for linux. The primary desire is to have an Office system which is free of cost. There is OpenOfficeOrg for OS X. The owner did not know about this and I think that it would be a good step in the right direction, but a full Linux install is what is desired. Hmmm, I have used Mac OS X as my main OS for the last 2 years (about the time I got fed up with Windows and decided to switch to Unix :), and there has been only one or two things that I wished I had Linux handy for, but countless times I was glad of Apples tight integration and reliability. My uptime is, like 2 months (and my machine is a laptop). Anyway, I could help with getting OpenOffice for Mac OS X on his machine. He is a retired gentleman and wants to have an extended play with free software. I explained that installing Linux on a MAC was a bit close to the frontiers of science for us and that what we are able to do all depended on how busy we are on the day. So we need to get .iso images of YDL. 3 disks. Nearest mirror planet mirror is in Aust. Anybody got the disks already? ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/yellowdog/yellowdog-3.0.1/iso Gentoo for PPC is mirrored on JetstreamGames. ftp://ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz/gentoo/releases/ppc/2004.1/livecd/ install-ppc-universal-2004.1.iso ftp://ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz/gentoo/releases/ppc/2004.1/packagecd/ Another option is to tell him about Fink and to make sure the Apple X-11 server is installed and set up. I have experience with Fink, X11, *nix programs on Mac OS X 10.2 and 10.3, and I use Open Office often. I have not yet upgraded to the recent 1.1.x release, and I am still using the old 1.0.x public release. Its pretty trivial to install Maybe someone could download the newer package and put it on a CD? Its less than 100MB I think, but I have dialup at home :( -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the e-mail headers on someone else's machine. Please do not notify me when this occurs. Thanks.
Re: GNU-less linux distributions
On 6/07/2004, at 2:28 PM, Andrew Turner wrote: InfoHelp wrote: As a means of progressing this issue towards useful closure, please go to a terminal console. Issue these commands: $ uname -s (--kernel-name) & $ uname -o (--operating-system) $ uname -s FreeBSD $ uname -o uname: illegal option -- o usage: uname [-aimnprsv] It appears FreeBSD dosn't have the -o option. -- 437789220 $ uname -s Darwin $ uname -o uname: illegal option -- o usage: uname [-amnprsv] Neither does Darwin/Mac OS X (which makes sense since it is FreeBSD-based). Hugo.
Re: console via usb
On 25/05/2004, at 10:57 PM, Bart Hanson wrote: On 25/05/2004, at 10:10 AM, Gareth Williams wrote: Out of interest, does this "usb-to-serial" adapter you speak of: a) help your serial device (eg. mouse) fake being a usb device, OR b) help your usb port fake being a serial port My little "dumb" adaptor allows a macintosh USB mouse or keyboard to be used in a macintosh serial port. Female USB to male 9 pin mac serial. I don't understand how it could be "dumb" (see my previous post). Its just not possible for their not to be electronics in their... In response to Gareths question, the "usb-to-serial" adaptor does (b), allows you to turn a spare USB port into a serial port.
Re: console via usb
Hi everybody, This is my first post to this list (but some of the names of people here are familiar from other lists etc) I am not exactly sure what was meant by the original question: Do you want 1) to connect a serial terminal to you linux box that (say) has USB ports but not serial ports. Or 2) connect a USB cable between two linux boxes, with one running a terminal program. (i don't know why you'd want this but hey. for 1. its easy. just buy a usb to serial converter like the DSE XH6381. i have three of them and they are great. they use a FTDI chip which has quality drivers for all major operating systems. for mine, i used the ftdi utility to reprogram the onboard eeprom so that it has a standard VID/PID and works without specially configuring the drivers, but that was a while ago and shouldn't be needed anymore. for 2. its also possible but you'd probably need to write your own driver emulating a tty interface, and make a special cable which would need some smarts/electronics in it. USB is a one-way interface in that one end is the HOST and the other is the DEVICE. You can't make a null modem cable for USB. TO CHRIS: If you were referring to the XH6381 in your post, then sorry you are wrong -- its got electronics inside. for my first one before the ftdi eeprom utilit was available i cracked it open and de-soldered the eeprom to reprogram it -- there is actually a small pcb in there. Also, i have never heard of anyone blowing anything up if they use a proper adapter like the XH6381. BUT if you do connect just the wires without a proper electronic adaptor you will definitely damage your USB controller on your motherboard (serial runs at +/- 12V and USB runs at 3.3V and 5V) USB is very very different to serial (specifically RS232 the 9-pin or 25-pin ports on the back of your box). The only common part is that they both transmit data serially (i.e bit after bit after bit). USB operates on low voltage differential signalling -- RS232 on high voltage single-ended signaling. USB has a protocol stack -- RS232 has nothing you just send that data and hope for the best. USB needs a special chip and special software and special drivers on the PC -- RS232 needs nothing special. ABOUT SETTING UP A CONSOLE OVER USB_SERIAL: I am not sure about getting the console during boot (its probably possible but probably not worth the effort...) but getting a console once its booted is trivial. the usb-serial port will come up as just another serial port (/dev/tty*) and can be configured as a console but making a getty process for the port. read the getty man page. I hope this answers some ppls questions. Regards, hugo On 21/05/2004, at 12:02 PM, Chris Day wrote: -Original Message- From: Bart Hanson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:13 PM To: CLUG Subject:Re: console via usb On 18/05/2004, at 8:16 PM, Vik Olliver wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:52, Paul William wrote: Hey all, Anyone know if you can get a 'Serial' Console using usb instead of a serial port? I don't really care about having a console at boot up but it would be a bonus. The only documentation I can find is about using the serial port. USB Just doesn't work that way. I have a USB -> Serial adaptor that doesn't appear to have any electronics or smarts, just a redirection of the wires. I too would like to know why USB can not function as a serial port controller. Anyone ? This is my first question to the list, I hope I can help someone else sometime although I'm a Unix "baby". Real briefly - serial is a fairly dumb interface - USB is a smart interface - the 2 are 100% NOT compatible. The adapter you have is commonly used with a mouse or similar peripheral that has a smart controller chip in it that is designed to handle USB or Serial. Be warned that it is possible to damage devices by incorrectly using the adapter you have - its designed for a specific purpose and converting USB to Serial, in the true sense, is not that purpose. This is the reason why DSE does not and will not sell such an adapter - people will blow things up. Regards, Chris...
