Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:19:25 -0500
Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have 336 meg of source code... just so I can run a "cutting edge"
> desktop?!?!?! No thanks.

In all fairness, now much is documentation in many languages? More than you might
expect.

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:11:02 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > patrick Kapturkiewicz spewed electrons into the ether that assembled
> > into:
> > > Can we see the first page translated ?
> > 
> > probably not until we take the design live. I'd hate to see a
> > translator have 
> > to re-work the translation multiple times.
> 
> Why not?  Is there really a difference between the 'new' english version
> of the front page, and the 'old' french version?  

Too bad the new design was not in a content management system so that content could be
divorced from layout. Makes language translation much easier to maintain. My
Zope suggestion got mild (at best) reception. Oh well...

I do like the new layout.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:59:51 -0700
Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:27:37 -0500 burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:> On April  4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote:
> > > FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I
> > > still think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's
> > > Punch as well as reading.
> > >
> > 
> > Or a beer.  Noted.
> > 
> 
> Why waste good sipping time - go right for a good single malt.

Irish, of course.

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procmail, day 2

2002-04-04 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?toylet=2Elinux=5B=A4p=AA=B1=B7N=5D?=

I am adding some more codes from linux-sxs's promail receipt.

1. what should I add in my /etc/procmailrc to resolve those lockfile
errors
2. ln -s /bin/sed /usr/bin/sed not working?

procmail: Extraneous locallockfile ignored
procmail: Skipped "duplicate"
procmail: Skipped ", through it out. if it's not, add the message id to
the cache file"
procmail: Lock failure on "/var/log/msgid.lock"
formail: Couldn't open "/var/log/msgid.cache"
/bin/sh: /usr/bin/sed: No such file or directory
/bin/sh: /usr/bin/sed: No such file or directory
procmail: Skipped "$DEFAULT"
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr  5 14:30:14 2002
 Subject:
  Folder: /var/spool/mail/toylet  

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-04 Thread Ted Ozolins

I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on the lab rat. Downloaded the KDE3 rpm binaries for 
 man8.1 and did the install. I can run kde3 from the console (runlevel 3) How 
ever even though kde3 appears in the kdm login screen I still get KDE2. If 
ths was COL I would know where to set things up. Oddly the Mandrake rpm's set 
up KDE3 in /opt, whereas KDE2 is in /usr. I suppose I can always boot into 
run_level 3 and start KDE3. I just don't like things half done. where do I 
set up kdm to see KDE3?

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Re: sound on kde3

2002-04-04 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 04 April 2002 08:56 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
> Previously, Keith Antoine chose to write:
> > Sound server informational message:
> > Error while initializing the sound driver:
> > couldn't auto detect which audio I/O method to use
> > The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
> >
> > I get this on login to kde3, which has altered permissions on the driver,
> > it works fine as root. I am guessing that its /dev/dsp but being that
> > this is Mandrake 8.1 and it uses devfs ? First up how can I tell which
> > driver its talking about and can I change it like I used to with a std
> > /dev/xxx.
>
> There were blurbs on a kde newsgroup about this today (comp.os.x.kde???
> something like that -- I don't have newsgroups at home, just at work)

Do not go near newsgroups myself.

> You also might find something at dot.kde.org, I think there were mentions
> of this there. Did you use Mandrake RPMs?

Yes I did use the 8.1 rpms. Thanks for that i'll check at dot.

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Re: Cookies in lynx

2002-04-04 Thread David Aikema

On April 4, 2002 03:21 am, Anita Lewis wrote:

> I guess you already tried putting those two entries in your ~/.lynx.cfg:
>
> COOKIE_FILE:~/.lynx_cookies
>
> PERSISTENT_COOKIES:TRUE

I've been passing things in as command line parameters

> If it doesn't work, I think all you can do is to ask them to recompile it
> with that feature. The worst that can happen is that they say no.

I've been planning to do that.

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KDE 3.0 - gentoo sweet gentoo

2002-04-04 Thread Collins

Ah the joys of waiting.  All I have to do is
emerge --clean rsync  (to throw away any stale ebuilds)
emerge kde-base/kde
and portage takes care of the rest including a higher level of python,
the appropriate qt, etc.

python and qt and kdelibs are done (3 hours)  - still chugging through
the rest.  gentoo has updated the kdm stuff so that you can run your
choice of 2,2,2 or 3 after all is said and done.

Eat your hearts out!

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-04 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:28:09 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 18:23:06 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > --- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 20:01:32 -0500 Douglas J Hunley
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that
> > assembled
> > > > > into:> Doug,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just started pulling it from
> > > > ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0/src/
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User
> > > > #174778
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am unable to find any files there either with a browser or
> > with
> > > > ftp.
> > > > > > When did you get it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > started pulling about 9am. still pulling. hasn't hit all the
> > mirrors
> > > > > yet. ftp.kde.org does a redirect to a "random" mirror. keep
> > trying I
> > > > > guess-- 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ok... I got it, now what do I do with it? This has got to be one
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > biggest linux applications that I've ever ftp'ed... and I don't
> > know
> > > > where
> > > > to begin compiling the beast! -- 
> > > 
> > > So how big is it now?  How many MB of bloated garbage?
> > > 
> > 
> > I have 336 meg of source code... just so I can run a "cutting edge"
> > desktop?!?!?! No thanks.
> 
> You're the one who wasted time & bandwidth downloading the ball of wax. 
> I'm quite satisfied with XFCE.
> 
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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Collins

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:27:37 -0500 burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> On April  4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote:
> > FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I
> > still think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's
> > Punch as well as reading.
> >
> 
> Or a beer.  Noted.
> 

Why waste good sipping time - go right for a good single malt.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Net Llama


--- burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On April  4, 2002 12:47 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> > Well, i'm more of a Serif font kinda-guy.  Helvetica, Arial and the
> > like.
> >
> Err,  ahem...  Arial and Helvetica are Sans-serif fonts, Lonni.

Yea, i always get them confused.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread burns

On April  4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote:
> FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I still
> think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch as well as
> reading.
>

Or a beer.  Noted.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread burns

On April  4, 2002 12:47 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> Well, i'm more of a Serif font kinda-guy.  Helvetica, Arial and the
> like.
>
Err,  ahem...  Arial and Helvetica are Sans-serif fonts, Lonni.

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Re: sound on kde3

2002-04-04 Thread Collins

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:56:28 -0500 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Previously, Keith Antoine chose to write:
> > Sound server informational message:
> > Error while initializing the sound driver:
> > couldn't auto detect which audio I/O method to use
> > The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
> >
> > I get this on login to kde3, which has altered permissions on the
> > driver, it works fine as root. I am guessing that its /dev/dsp but
> > being that this is Mandrake 8.1 and it uses devfs ? First up how can
> > I tell which driver its talking about and can I change it like I
> > used to with a std /dev/xxx.
> 
> There were blurbs on a kde newsgroup about this today
> (comp.os.x.kde??? something like that -- I don't have newsgroups at
> home, just at work)
> 
> You also might find something at dot.kde.org, I think there were
> mentions of this there. Did you use Mandrake RPMs?
> 

If you are using devfs, you have a config file that controls permanent
attributes for devices.  Here's my gentoo /etc/devfsd.conf.  The snd...
stuff is what I used to insure that any user could use /dev/dsp, etc. 
You probably have entries similar to the top of the file already.

# Sample /etc/devfsd.conf configuration file.
# Richard Gooch  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3-JUL-2000
#
# The Gentoo Linux Team - http://www.gentoo.org/
# - Many fixes, etc

# Enable full compatibility mode for old device names. You may comment
these# out if you don't use the old device names. Make sure you know
what you're# doing!
REGISTER.*   MKOLDCOMPAT
UNREGISTER  .*   RMOLDCOMPAT

# You may comment out the above and uncomment the following if you've
# configured your system to use the original "new" devfs names or the
really# new names
#REGISTER   vc/.*MKOLDCOMPAT
#UNREGISTER vc/.*RMOLDCOMPAT
#REGISTER   pty/.*   MKOLDCOMPAT
#UNREGISTER pty/.*   RMOLDCOMPAT
#REGISTER   misc MKOLDCOMPAT
#UNREGISTER misc RMOLDCOMPAT
# You may comment these out if you don't use the original "new" names
REGISTER.*   MKNEWCOMPAT
UNREGISTER  .*   RMNEWCOMPAT

# Enable module autoloading. You may comment this out if you don't use
# autoloading
LOOKUP  .*   MODLOAD

# Uncomment this if you want permissions to be saved and restored
# NB: Do NOT change the following!
# Do not do this for pseudo-terminal devices
REGISTER^pt[sy]/.*   IGNORE
CHANGE  ^pt[sy]/.*   IGNORE
CREATE  ^pt[sy]/.*   IGNORE
DELETE  ^pt[sy]  IGNORE
REGISTER.*   COPY/lib/dev-state/$devname $devpath
CHANGE  .*   COPY$devpath /lib/dev-state/$devname
CREATE  .*   COPY$devpath /lib/dev-state/$devname
DELETE  .*   CFUNCTION GLOBAL unlink
/lib/dev-state/$devname RESTORE /lib/dev-state

# You can force default like this :
# PERMISSIONS owner_and_group access_mode

# ALSA/OSS stuff
# Comment/change these if you want to change the permissions on
# the audio devices
LOOKUP  snd  MODLOAD ACTION snd
REGISTERsound/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 666
REGISTERsnd/.*   PERMISSIONS root.audio 666

# Give the cdrw group write permissions to /dev/sg0
# This is done to have non root user use the burner (scan the scsi bus)
REGISTER^sg0$   PERMISSIONS root.cdrw 660
# General note for the following auto creation of symlinks:
#
#If you change the device that the symlink points to,
#you should also remove the symlink before restarting
#devfsd

# Create /dev/cdrom for the first cdrom drive
LOOKUP  ^cdrom$  CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink cdroms/cdrom0
cdrom REGISTER^sg0$   CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink $devname cdrom
UNREGISTER  ^sg0$   CFUNCTION GLOBAL unlink cdrom


# Create /dev/dvd for the second cdrom drive
# (change 'cdroms/cdrom1' to suite your setup)
LOOKUP  ^dvd$   CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink cdroms/cdrom1 dvd
REGISTER^cdrom/cdrom1$  CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink $devname dvd
UNREGISTER  ^cdrom/cdrom1$  CFUNCTION GLOBAL unlink dvd

# Create /dev/mouse
LOOKUP  ^mouse$  CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink misc/psaux mouse
REGISTER^misc/psaux$ CFUNCTION GLOBAL mksymlink $devname mouse


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Re: sound on kde3

2002-04-04 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, Keith Antoine chose to write:
> Sound server informational message:
> Error while initializing the sound driver:
> couldn't auto detect which audio I/O method to use
> The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
>
> I get this on login to kde3, which has altered permissions on the driver,
> it works fine as root. I am guessing that its /dev/dsp but being that this
> is Mandrake 8.1 and it uses devfs ? First up how can I tell which driver
> its talking about and can I change it like I used to with a std /dev/xxx.

There were blurbs on a kde newsgroup about this today (comp.os.x.kde??? 
something like that -- I don't have newsgroups at home, just at work)

You also might find something at dot.kde.org, I think there were mentions of 
this there. Did you use Mandrake RPMs?

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sound on kde3

2002-04-04 Thread Keith Antoine

Sound server informational message:
Error while initializing the sound driver:
couldn't auto detect which audio I/O method to use
The sound server will continue, using the null output device.

I get this on login to kde3, which has altered permissions on the driver, it 
works fine as root. I am guessing that its /dev/dsp but being that this is 
Mandrake 8.1 and it uses devfs ? First up how can I tell which driver its 
talking about and can I change it like I used to with a std /dev/xxx.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Federico Voges

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Hi,

I agree. Font should be Verdana/Arial/Helvetica/Sans Serif/etc.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:47:27 +0200 (CEST), patrick Kapturkiewicz wrote:

>I don't like this font, too difficult to read,imho.
>Patrick
>
> --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
>écrit : > Another 'snapshot' of the developing site
>redesign
>> is now up at 
>> http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
>> Today's changes include:
>> 1. A new font (for those who have it installed)
>> .Screenshot is attached for 
>> those without the font. Please comment on the new
>> font.
>> 2. forums page cleaned up. I like it a lot better
>> then the previous 
>> 'placeholder' page. thanks for mentioning it Klaus.
>> i probably would have 
>> forgotten to re-write it otherwise.
>> 3. there's now some content under both the 'text'
>> and 'world wide web' 
>> categories.
>> 4. you'll notice that as new content is going in,
>> it's being brought into 
>> line with the new design
>> 5. all content pages have the new logo at the bottom
>> right corner which take 
>> you back to the "home" page
>> 6. all links to external resources are marked with
>> an "*" as superscript
>> 
>> as usual, thought/comments/ideas/suggestions/etc are
>> wanted. thanks
>
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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-04 Thread Net Llama

--- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 18:23:06 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > --- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 20:01:32 -0500 Douglas J Hunley
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that
> assembled
> > > > into:> Doug,
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just started pulling it from
> > > ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0/src/
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User
> > > #174778
> > > > >
> > > > > I am unable to find any files there either with a browser or
> with
> > > ftp.
> > > > > When did you get it?
> > > > 
> > > > started pulling about 9am. still pulling. hasn't hit all the
> mirrors
> > > > yet. ftp.kde.org does a redirect to a "random" mirror. keep
> trying I
> > > > guess-- 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok... I got it, now what do I do with it? This has got to be one
> of
> > > the
> > > biggest linux applications that I've ever ftp'ed... and I don't
> know
> > > where
> > > to begin compiling the beast! -- 
> > 
> > So how big is it now?  How many MB of bloated garbage?
> > 
> 
> I have 336 meg of source code... just so I can run a "cutting edge"
> desktop?!?!?! No thanks.

You're the one who wasted time & bandwidth downloading the ball of wax. 
I'm quite satisfied with XFCE.

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-04 Thread Jerry McBride

On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 18:23:06 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> --- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 20:01:32 -0500 Douglas J Hunley
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Condon Thomas A KPWA spewed electrons into the ether that assembled
> > > into:> Doug,
> > > >
> > > > > I just started pulling it from
> > ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0/src/
> > > > > --
> > > > > Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User
> > #174778
> > > >
> > > > I am unable to find any files there either with a browser or with
> > ftp.
> > > > When did you get it?
> > > 
> > > started pulling about 9am. still pulling. hasn't hit all the mirrors
> > > yet. ftp.kde.org does a redirect to a "random" mirror. keep trying I
> > > guess-- 
> > 
> > 
> > Ok... I got it, now what do I do with it? This has got to be one of
> > the
> > biggest linux applications that I've ever ftp'ed... and I don't know
> > where
> > to begin compiling the beast! -- 
> 
> So how big is it now?  How many MB of bloated garbage?
> 

I have 336 meg of source code... just so I can run a "cutting edge"
desktop?!?!?! No thanks.

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Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Keith Antoine

On Thursday 04 April 2002 07:17 am, burns wrote:

> > No way, I do not want to end up in hospital like a countryman of yours
> > from a stinger. He is critical and on life support in Townsville hospital
> > after swimming up north and getting hit by one of the stingers. He swam
> > outside the netted area, another died last week after doing the same.
>
> What is a stinger? Did he step on a stingray? Or are we talking about
> jellyfish (man-o-war)?

Its of the so called 'jelly fish' family and can be deadly. To be honest they 
are grouped locally as stingers and can come down as far as Brisbane with 
northerly winds. They are practically invisible very small in size have 
tenticles up to 20ft long. Up north as you can see from one of my photos all 
beaches carry warnings, that swimming in summer is hazardous outside netted 
areas. You can swim with a nylon body suit on and winter is fine too.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread patrick Kapturkiewicz

I don't like this font, too difficult to read,imho.
Patrick

 --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
écrit : > Another 'snapshot' of the developing site
redesign
> is now up at 
> http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> Today's changes include:
> 1. A new font (for those who have it installed)
> .Screenshot is attached for 
> those without the font. Please comment on the new
> font.
> 2. forums page cleaned up. I like it a lot better
> then the previous 
> 'placeholder' page. thanks for mentioning it Klaus.
> i probably would have 
> forgotten to re-write it otherwise.
> 3. there's now some content under both the 'text'
> and 'world wide web' 
> categories.
> 4. you'll notice that as new content is going in,
> it's being brought into 
> line with the new design
> 5. all content pages have the new logo at the bottom
> right corner which take 
> you back to the "home" page
> 6. all links to external resources are marked with
> an "*" as superscript
> 
> as usual, thought/comments/ideas/suggestions/etc are
> wanted. thanks


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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread David A. Bandel

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:47:46 -0800 (PST)
begin  Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:

> Well, i'm more of a Serif font kinda-guy.  Helvetica, Arial and the
> like.

Umm. San-serif mean without the "serif", which is a "tail" on all the
letter termination points.  Helvetica and Arial are san-serif fonts on all
systems I've worked on.  Times New Roman is a serif font.  It has tails
that can make it difficult to read.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Rick McQueen-Thomson

FWIW,  I like the new design.  I think Tux looks too studious.  I still think 
he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch as well as reading.

Great site otherwise.

Cheers,  Rick

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:19, you wrote:
> Another 'snapshot' of the developing site redesign is now up at
> http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> Today's changes include:
> 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is attached for
> those without the font. Please comment on the new font.
> 2. forums page cleaned up. I like it a lot better then the previous
> 'placeholder' page. thanks for mentioning it Klaus. i probably would have
> forgotten to re-write it otherwise.
> 3. there's now some content under both the 'text' and 'world wide web'
> categories.
> 4. you'll notice that as new content is going in, it's being brought into
> line with the new design
> 5. all content pages have the new logo at the bottom right corner which
> take you back to the "home" page
> 6. all links to external resources are marked with an "*" as superscript
>
> as usual, thought/comments/ideas/suggestions/etc are wanted. thanks
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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Aaron Grewell

kidding.  It actually isn't a big deal for me at all.

On Thursday 04 April 2002 10:54 am, Net Llama wrote:
> How so?
>
> --- Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sacrilege!
> >
> > On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:47 am, Net Llama wrote:
> > > Well, i'm more of a Serif font kinda-guy.  Helvetica, Arial and the
> > > like.
> > >
> > > --- Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I prefer more "conservative" fonts, preferably something
> >
> > sans-serif
> >
> > > > without
> > > > any strange cuves.  OTOH, since my spanky new KDE3 setup doesn't
> >
> > have
> >
> > > > that
> > > > font, it looks fine on my machine!  :-)
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:09 am, Net Llama wrote:
> > > > > --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Another 'snapshot' of the developing site redesign is now up
> >
> > at
> >
> > > > > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> > > > > > Today's changes include:
> > > > > > 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is
> > > > > > attached for
> > > > > > those without the font. Please comment on the new font.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ick.  I *HATE* that font more than the previous one.  Its really
> > > >
> > > > rough
> > > >
> > > > > on the eyes (or at least mine).
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything else looks top notch to me.
>
> =
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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Net Llama

How so?

--- Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sacrilege!
> 
> On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:47 am, Net Llama wrote:
> > Well, i'm more of a Serif font kinda-guy.  Helvetica, Arial and the
> > like.
> >
> > --- Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I prefer more "conservative" fonts, preferably something
> sans-serif
> > > without
> > > any strange cuves.  OTOH, since my spanky new KDE3 setup doesn't
> have
> > > that
> > > font, it looks fine on my machine!  :-)
> > >
> > > On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:09 am, Net Llama wrote:
> > > > --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Another 'snapshot' of the developing site redesign is now up
> at
> > > > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> > > > > Today's changes include:
> > > > > 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is
> > > > > attached for
> > > > > those without the font. Please comment on the new font.
> > > >
> > > > Ick.  I *HATE* that font more than the previous one.  Its really
> > >
> > > rough
> > >
> > > > on the eyes (or at least mine).
> > > >
> > > > Everything else looks top notch to me.

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Re: Mandrake shutdown/segmentation fault

2002-04-04 Thread Net Llama

Check these out:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&threadm=a04he7%24p3e%2403%241%40news.t-online.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3Dshutdown%26as_epq%3DBad%2520EIP%2520value%26as_ugroup%3D*linux*%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D30%26hl%3Den
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&threadm=3B8565DF.167E%40daimi.au.dk&rnum=7&prev=/groups%3Fas_epq%3DBad%2520EIP%2520value%26as_ugroup%3D*linux*%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D30%26hl%3Den
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&threadm=emRS7.2463%24_02.210021%40news.xtra.co.nz&rnum=11&prev=/groups%3Fas_epq%3DBad%2520EIP%2520value%26as_ugroup%3D*linux*%26lr%3Dlang_en%26num%3D30%26hl%3Den

--- Stuart Biggerstaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry if this has been covered.  I have a K6/2-300 system which
> (finally) 
> runs well, but on shutdown segfaults, with the message Bad EIP value. 
> I 
> have found references to this problem 
>
(http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/msg45447.html)--but
> 
> none to a solution.
> 
> The problem seems to be that the operating system (here Mandrake, 8.1)
> 
> recognizes the motherboard based on its BIOS as one that will allow a 
> software shutdown--when in fact it is not. (It is an AT motherboard,
> but 
> ATX features are included in the BIOS.)  This is a guess, based on the
> fact 
> that it does it when shutdown to halt, but not rebooted. It is also 
> confirmed by others who have made the same guess. Mandrake offers a 
> possible solution, as 8.1 allows installation of either a 2.2.19 or
> 2.4.8 
> (default) kernel. One of the comments about the problem said it
> happened 
> with a 2.4.8 kernel, but not a 2.4.5 one, but as a quick test I
> installed 
> Mandrake 7.0, and it does it too.
> 
> I suspect I could fix this by editing the script it runs on shutdown,
> but 
> so far I have not found what that is.  Can anyone suggest where I
> look?

=

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Aaron Grewell

Sacrilege!

On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:47 am, Net Llama wrote:
> Well, i'm more of a Serif font kinda-guy.  Helvetica, Arial and the
> like.
>
> --- Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I prefer more "conservative" fonts, preferably something sans-serif
> > without
> > any strange cuves.  OTOH, since my spanky new KDE3 setup doesn't have
> > that
> > font, it looks fine on my machine!  :-)
> >
> > On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:09 am, Net Llama wrote:
> > > --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Another 'snapshot' of the developing site redesign is now up at
> > > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> > > > Today's changes include:
> > > > 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is
> > > > attached for
> > > > those without the font. Please comment on the new font.
> > >
> > > Ick.  I *HATE* that font more than the previous one.  Its really
> >
> > rough
> >
> > > on the eyes (or at least mine).
> > >
> > > Everything else looks top notch to me.
>
> =
> 
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Mandrake shutdown/segmentation fault

2002-04-04 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff

Sorry if this has been covered.  I have a K6/2-300 system which (finally) 
runs well, but on shutdown segfaults, with the message Bad EIP value.  I 
have found references to this problem 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/msg45447.html)--but 
none to a solution.

The problem seems to be that the operating system (here Mandrake, 8.1) 
recognizes the motherboard based on its BIOS as one that will allow a 
software shutdown--when in fact it is not. (It is an AT motherboard, but 
ATX features are included in the BIOS.)  This is a guess, based on the fact 
that it does it when shutdown to halt, but not rebooted. It is also 
confirmed by others who have made the same guess. Mandrake offers a 
possible solution, as 8.1 allows installation of either a 2.2.19 or 2.4.8 
(default) kernel. One of the comments about the problem said it happened 
with a 2.4.8 kernel, but not a 2.4.5 one, but as a quick test I installed 
Mandrake 7.0, and it does it too.

I suspect I could fix this by editing the script it runs on shutdown, but 
so far I have not found what that is.  Can anyone suggest where I look?



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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Net Llama

Well, i'm more of a Serif font kinda-guy.  Helvetica, Arial and the
like.

--- Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I prefer more "conservative" fonts, preferably something sans-serif
> without 
> any strange cuves.  OTOH, since my spanky new KDE3 setup doesn't have
> that 
> font, it looks fine on my machine!  :-)
> 
> On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:09 am, Net Llama wrote:
> > --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Another 'snapshot' of the developing site redesign is now up at
> > > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> > > Today's changes include:
> > > 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is
> > > attached for
> > > those without the font. Please comment on the new font.
> >
> > Ick.  I *HATE* that font more than the previous one.  Its really
> rough
> > on the eyes (or at least mine).
> >
> > Everything else looks top notch to me.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Aaron Grewell

I prefer more "conservative" fonts, preferably something sans-serif without 
any strange cuves.  OTOH, since my spanky new KDE3 setup doesn't have that 
font, it looks fine on my machine!  :-)

On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:09 am, Net Llama wrote:
> --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another 'snapshot' of the developing site redesign is now up at
> > http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> > Today's changes include:
> > 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is
> > attached for
> > those without the font. Please comment on the new font.
>
> Ick.  I *HATE* that font more than the previous one.  Its really rough
> on the eyes (or at least mine).
>
> Everything else looks top notch to me.
>
> =
> 
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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Net Llama

--- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> patrick Kapturkiewicz spewed electrons into the ether that assembled
> into:
> > Can we see the first page translated ?
> 
> probably not until we take the design live. I'd hate to see a
> translator have 
> to re-work the translation multiple times.

Why not?  Is there really a difference between the 'new' english version
of the front page, and the 'old' french version?  

I think this is key, especially if Patrick finds it to be important
enough to mention.

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Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Net Llama

--- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another 'snapshot' of the developing site redesign is now up at 
> http://hunley.homeip.net/sxs/ for review.
> Today's changes include:
> 1. A new font (for those who have it installed) .Screenshot is
> attached for 
> those without the font. Please comment on the new font.

Ick.  I *HATE* that font more than the previous one.  Its really rough
on the eyes (or at least mine).

Everything else looks top notch to me.

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Re: sendmail and m4

2002-04-04 Thread David A. Bandel

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 03:03:22 -0500 (EST)
begin  Jay Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:

> Greetings,
> 
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, m.w.Chang wrote:
> 
> > m4... oh my cow...later.
> > 
> > I really want to learn the black art of configurating sendmail WITHOUT
> > M4 though not recommended by anyone. Sendmail doesn't read the m4 file
> > directly, so why the hussles of an extra step? Beats me...
> 
>I agree.  I've run m4 just once in 8 years of using sendmail.  I've 
> always simply edited sendmail.cf directly.  m4 mearly takes ANOTHER
> config file and rewrites it into sendmail.cf in a different format. 
> Yes, sendmail.cf can be hard to read and figure out but it can be done!
> :-)

Why use m4?  I dare you to type your entire sendmail.cf file and _not_
make an error.  With something as important as your sendmail.cf file, I
wouldn't not use m4.  Even a two-line change with sendmail.cf's bizarre
syntax (talking about in the various rules sections) could be disastrous
for your users.

Learn to read and write rules if you want to, that's fine.  But recreate
your sendmail.cf with m4.

If you _don't_ use m4, you've missed the point (and I'm glad I don't have
a mail account on your server).

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:43:17 -0500
begin  Marvin Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:

[snip]

> 
> But then again, what do I know...?... Kurt and David B. are better
> equipped than I am at this sort of thing.
> 

OK, straight off the top of my head for creating a filesystem:

1.  use fdisk (or cfdisk) to create partitions on your drive.
2.  use mke2fs (for ext2), mke2fs -j (for ext3), mkreiserfs (for reiserfs)
on the newly created partition (for example /dev/hdb1) to format it 3. 
create a mountpoint for the partition using mkdir 4.  mount the partition
(mount /dev/hdxx /new/mountpoint)

The above is straight from my head.  No reference (in years) to any
material, I just remember how to do it.

Could you look around and find something that looks similar?  YES
Is it plagiarism?  NO

Why not, it looks and reads like someone else's material?

Because in the case of a cook-book recipe like the above where certain
steps are involved, must be accomplished in a certain order, they will
_always_ look like someone else's cookbook recipe to do exactly the same
thing, copied or not.

So in this case, plagiarism would be difficult if not impossible to prove
as long as the _exact_ same words, punctuation, mispellings, aren't used. 
Although the below is plagarised from the above (because I'm reading and
rewording slightly), it would not convince a judge:

1.  create a partition with fdisk
2.  format the partition with mke2fs -j
3.  create a mountpoint with mkdir
4.  mount the filesystem with mount

But is there another way to do it?  No (at least not correctly).

Have I been to court?  No.  But I have discussed this with legal counsel. 
Why?  I write one book for one author.  I write another book with some
chapters that cover some of the same material for another author.  Can I
copy from one book to another? NO!  By rewriting the same material, am I
plagiarising myself?  Perhaps.  The two texts can read substantially the
same, but cannot be identical.  If any two paragraphs from the two books
are exactly the same, I could be open to a lawsuit.  A pattern of several
paragraphs that are identically worded would almost certainly net me major
problems.

Fiction is a lot easier to prove plagiarism than technical writing. (Just
how many ways are there to screw in a light bulb?)  You just need to say
in good conscience that you did not copy someone else's work.

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley

patrick Kapturkiewicz spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into:
> Freudian slip ?

fat fingers and a slow remote connection
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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread patrick Kapturkiewicz

Freudian slip ?

--- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
écrit : > Douglas J Hunley spewed electrons into the
ether
> that assembled into:
> > continue with this design or now.
> 
> doh! s/now/not
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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Douglas J Hunley spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into:
> continue with this design or now.

doh! s/now/not
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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley

patrick Kapturkiewicz spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into:
> Hi,
> Sorry, I know it's not constructive but I've found
> this new site very pretty.

but, that is constructive! it's one more opinion on whether we should 
continue with this design or now.

> Shall we have to start translation again ?

I'm not sure. Perhaps the translators can take their existing content and 
simply "fit it into" the new page layout. Actually, this shouldn't be too 
difficult to do.

> Can we see the first page translated ?

probably not until we take the design live. I'd hate to see a translator have 
to re-work the translation multiple times.

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Federico Voges spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into:
> Hi,
>
> One thing I forgot the other day: please use BGCOLOR='#FF' in *ALL*
> BODY tags. My default color is not white and half the pages the pages
> have my bg color instead of white as they should.
>

doh! I just put the BGCOLOR in my local tree. it'll be in tomorrow's cut. 
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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread burns

On April  4, 2002 07:08 am, M.W.Chang wrote:
> What if the submission agreement covers the liability of copyright
> infrongement. Holy cow, that would really be horrible. Will you submit
> something? Nah.. you won't take the risk.
>
> Also, I doubt whether these U-professors really know whether an old was
> actually an old idea repackaged. They couldn't possibly knew all old
> ideas. Seems that it's all about timing. If person A published an
> article first, he/she might sue anyone who made simliar article
> afterward.
>
> My classmate was acreeditted a PhD (by local authority), but I never
> quite knew what his thesis was talking about, let alone judging whether
> it's innovative in the field.
>
> > But then again, what do I know...?... Kurt and David B.
> > are better equipped than I am at this sort of thing.
> > But then again, as someone else stated, none of us are writing a thesis
> > to become a Rocket Doctor.
>

At one of our universities in Ottawa, about 40 people recently were suspended 
when they were caught submitting things copied from the Internet as if it 
were their own work... the class was an ethics class in the Engineering 
school!

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Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread burns

On April  2, 2002 08:16 pm, m.w.Chang wrote:

> No.. you cannot a she..AFAIK
>
>  > > >if the skirt went from my neck to my ankles, it wouldn't be too bad
> > >
> > >I don't think you have anything above your big belly.. :)
> >
> > I'm not sure how to take that!
>

I think something is being lost in the translation, here.

This could be the beginning of a very good Monty Python skit. Have you guys 
been practising?

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Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread burns

On April  3, 2002 06:34 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 April 2002 07:06 pm, Kurt Wall GANDALF conjoured thus:
> > Scribbling feverishly on April 03, Keith Antoine managed to emit:
> > > This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel
> > > rise .
> >
> > Just go to the beach in your thong. That should stop the tide dead in
> > its tracks. ;-)
> >
> > Kurt
>
> No way, I do not want to end up in hospital like a countryman of yours from
> a stinger. He is critical and on life support in Townsville hospital after
> swimming up north and getting hit by one of the stingers. He swam outside
> the netted area, another died last week after doing the same.

What is a stinger? Did he step on a stingray? Or are we talking about 
jellyfish (man-o-war)?

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Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread burns

On April  2, 2002 07:06 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
> Scribbling feverishly on April 03, Keith Antoine managed to emit:
> > This is possibly prophetic, as it would not take much of a sealevel rise
> > .
>
> Just go to the beach in your thong. That should stop the tide dead in
> its tracks. ;-)
>
It's the magic wand.

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread M.W.Chang


What if the submission agreement covers the liability of copyright
infrongement. Holy cow, that would really be horrible. Will you submit
something? Nah.. you won't take the risk.

Also, I doubt whether these U-professors really know whether an old was
actually an old idea repackaged. They couldn't possibly knew all old
ideas. Seems that it's all about timing. If person A published an
article first, he/she might sue anyone who made simliar article
afterward.

My classmate was acreeditted a PhD (by local authority), but I never
quite knew what his thesis was talking about, let alone judging whether
it's innovative in the field.

> But then again, what do I know...?... Kurt and David B. 
> are better equipped than I am at this sort of thing.
> But then again, as someone else stated, none of us are writing a thesis to become a 
>Rocket Doctor.
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Re: Redesign of SxS site in the works

2002-04-04 Thread burns

On April  2, 2002 06:59 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

>
> > I think I prefer the old mascot of Dr. Tux rather than Beach boy Tux. In
> > fact one has the impression of having seen it elsewhere. Personally, I am
> > for re-establishing Dr. Tux.
>
> As soon as Burns gets some time, that is the plan. the current penguin is
> just a stand-in.

Is it the beachchair idea that you don't like, the different penguin, or both?
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Re: Cookies in lynx

2002-04-04 Thread Anita Lewis

On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:53:46 -0800, David Aikema wrote:
> On April 3, 2002 03:34 pm, Anita Lewis wrote:
> 
>> I think you are talking about persistent cookies.  First lynx has to have
>> that compiled in.  I got it and compiled it, because simply setting things
>> in .lynx.cfg did not work.  After compiling it with persistent cookies, it
>> saved them.
> 
> Yup, those would be what I was refering to.
> 
> The problem with all of this though is that I have no control over any of the 
> software on the machine (it's a solaris box at university) and they don't 
> allow us to add software to the machine.
> 
> Thus, unfortunately I am unable to rebuild lynx (just noticed that this 
> client also doesn't support https... yipes!).  Do I really have to ssh into 
> my home system just to be able to use a semi-recent/decent copy of lynx?
> 
> David Aikema

I guess you already tried putting those two entries in your ~/.lynx.cfg:

COOKIE_FILE:~/.lynx_cookies

PERSISTENT_COOKIES:TRUE

If it doesn't work, I think all you can do is to ask them to recompile it
with that feature. The worst that can happen is that they say no.

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 00:36:10 -0300
"Federico Voges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It can be done with JavaScript, but, if your browser doesn't support JS
> (or it's turned off), you'll see all the subcategories expanded (just
> have a look at phpMyAdmin).

Or, as happened with a Javascript setup I had, the pulldown menus (it was
a menubar along the top) did not pull down. Made me very sad. I told one
person to just upgrade to a newer netscape. She did, and her banking
stopped working because the bank only supported older versions of Netscape.
(I use the same bank and have since discovered that setting the client info
the browser sends to that site makes it work with the new browser.)

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Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread patrick Kapturkiewicz

Hi,
Sorry, I know it's not constructive but I've found
this new site very pretty.
Shall we have to start translation again ?
Can we see the first page translated ?
Patrick

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> review. Issues addresses this time around:
> 1. alt text for all images
> 2. "welcome to" reworded properly
> 3. submit link now displays the submissions
> agreement
> 4. submissions agreement now lists the submissions
> address
> 5. all images now have width and height tags
> 6. the first sub-categories are now starting to show
> up. comments appreciated 
> (text, and world wide web were first)
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Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:13:55 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's news to me.  I've been using the same flash plugin for the past
> year, and this site worked just fine for me.

What can I say. I ran with 4.0r12 and got a grey box. I updated to the
latest 5.0.something, and I got the ugly menus.

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Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed

2002-04-04 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:22:18 -0800
Aaron Grewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I second that.  Icky Flash.  Javascript menus are at least plugin-free.

I agree about flash. However, Javascript menus are a pain as well. I set up
a nice one on a school web site, based on code from www.brainjar.com, and
many users of Macs and people with 'old' computers complained that the menus
did not work. Mainly Netscape pre 4.76 or something like that. I was a bit
suprised.

> 
> On Wednesday 03 April 2002 08:58 am, you wrote:
> > --- "m.w.Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Take a look on this:
> > >
> > > simple flash menu
> > > http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/
> >
> > Personally, i *hate* it.  Flash is one of the most over-used 'features'
> > around these days, and i've yet to see a single good use for it.
> > Actually the only mildly good use is the stupid/silly animated movies
> > that some people make (All your base, etc).
> >
> > Additionally, Flash requires a plugin, and the last thing we need is to
> > raise the bar on using the Steps.
> >
> > =
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Problem with kbuildsycoa

2002-04-04 Thread David Aikema

---
david@david:~> kbuildsycoca
Error can't open database!
---

A few days ago I noticed that I no longer appear to be able run 
kbuildsycoa... no matter how much I fiddle around in menu editor nothing will 
be updated in the menus.

I've searched on google, looked for man pages, and also asked a few people if 
they had any ideas what might be wrong, but none of these resulted in a 
solution.

What I'm currently running:
SuSE 7.3
KDE 2.2.2

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-04 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10:51 pm, Rick Sivernell GANDALF conjoured thus:

>Are you the one clogging yup the Bandwidth with such blooted code.
> .
>
> cheers

There are many mirrors but one that is often free is mirror.aarnet.edu.au it 
has many mirrored sites so just look for kde the mirror was updated this 
morning here.

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Re: KDE 3.0 is out!

2002-04-04 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 03 April 2002 09:23 pm, Brett I. Holcomb GANDALF conjoured thus:
> Does anyone know if the print bug is fixed - that's the one that occured in
> KDE 2.x and caused part of the last line to print on a page and then repeat
> on the top of the next page.  According to all the posts I saw it was a qt
> problem.
>
> Somewhere (maybe on SxS or check the install for the Caldera RPM of 2.x)
> there was an order to do them in - qt, then libxml?, then something else,
> then kdebase, and finally the rest.

Before I compiled kde-3.0 I talked to Pam Roberts and what I found out was very i
mportant to sucess with it. In this case I was compiling on Cladera but i gues its the 
same for all.

#! you need to install Autoconf Automake 1.5 and libtool 1.42 FIRST .
#2 install QT with::
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3
cd QTDIR
./configure -system-zlib -qt-gif system-libpng -system-libpng -thread 
-plugin-imgfmt-mng -no-stl -no-xinerama -no-g++-exceptions -enable-xml
#3 the order of the kde files is:
kdesupport
arts
kdelibs
kdebase
kdeaddons
then all the rest
I also used the ./configure --prefix=/xxx/kde3 --disable-debug --enable-cups 
-with-ssl-dir=/usr/ssl 
obviously you would put your own paths in


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