my networking problem is over
I do not know what i did differently, obviously something but I am now connected with both XP and linux, plus the secondary machine is now also online. So my major problem is now solved. What can I do next to keep everyone busy, I know i'll do a 2.6 compile. All jokes aside many thanks to all those who put in their .05 cents worth. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: network problem: internet sharing
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:43:17 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:24 PM 23/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: Well, all you did was buy another problem. If you still need/want help with anything Linux, let us know. Ciao, David A. Bandel Grimace! What i need to do is manage to get linux to work with this router. What I need is instructions on how to install the necessary bits in command line with I think 'route add' or something like that, but I remember the commands were more complicated. I need to add IP for this machine, netmask and gateway. It seems that the gui does not allow default gateway adding. I would try running dhcpdc (or pump, etc.) on your router connected interface. That router should be providing DHCP. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I get a lot from router
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:52:55 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting mail from the router which I do not understand. The following IP's are being dropped. I can see they are local but why are they being generated at all and why are they not received. some from 192.168.0.2,137 are allowed. Well, anyone who knows what 137 is blocks it. All my routers contain an iptables rule to block port 137. You don't want Windoze announcing itself to the world. It's kinda like hanging out a great big bullseye on the Internet with neon signs saying: HEY! I'M, HERE, HACK ME As for the others, they're not yours so don't worry about them. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:37:25 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know what i did differently, obviously something but I am now connected with both XP and linux, plus the secondary machine is now also online. So my major problem is now solved. What can I do next to keep everyone busy, I know i'll do a 2.6 compile. All jokes aside many thanks to all those who put in their .05 cents worth. It's not the compilation that will get you, but the little things that you will forget to include or include as modules. In that respect, 2.6 is a nightmare. It's getting to the point that not just anyone can compile their own kernel and expect it to work. The config script needs simplification. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Process select for SuSE 8.2
On 07/23/2003 12:29 PM, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 01:05:31PM -0400, Matthew Carpenter wrote: chkconfig seems to be becoming a CLI standard for checking/changing the startup status for services as well... Is that part of the UnitedLinux standard or RH? chkconfig is a Redhat thing. I dont' know if other distros are now using it though. Hi, Chkconfig has been in SuSE at least since v7.3 when I started using it. It's kinda handy once you get used to it. chkconfig -L will give you a quick summary of your rulevel configurations. I think it was originally developed by SGI, as it is standard in IRIX, at least as early as v5.1 or so. That's where I first ran across it. HTH, John V. -- _/- John Voigt - K9GBO -|- Registered Linux User #38558 --_/ _/- Reclamation Specialist --|- IN Dept of Natural Resources -_/ _/- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -|- (812) 665-2207 --_/ I have an answering machine in my car. It says, I'm home now. But leave a message and I'll call when I'm out. -- Steven Wright ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Process select for SuSE 8.2
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, John Voigt wrote: Chkconfig has been in SuSE at least since v7.3 when I started using it. It's kinda handy once you get used to it. chkconfig -L will give you a quick summary of your rulevel configurations. I think it was originally developed by SGI, as it is standard in IRIX, at least as early as v5.1 or so. That's where I first ran across it. You are correct. It was originally in IRIX, and redhat took it and made some changes. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT GM vs. MSoft vs. Apple
Bill Gates wanted to look good and impress everyone with his success. He decided to measure Microsoft accomplishments against General Motors. His comparison went like this: If automotive technology had kept pace with computer technology over the past few decades, you would now be driving a V-32 instead of a V8, and it would have a top speed of 10,000 miles/hour (160,000km/hr). Or you could have an economy car that weighs 30 pounds (14 kilos) and gets a thousand miles to the gallon of gas. In either case, the sticker of the new car would be less than $50.00. In response to all this goading, GM responded: Yes, but would you really want to drive a car that crashes 4 times a day? If Microsoft built cars... Every time they re-painted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new car. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason, and you'd have to restart it. For some strange reason, you'd just accept this and drive on. Occasionally, your car would stop and fail to restart, and you'd have to reinstall the engine. For some strange reason, you'd just accept this too. You could only have one person in the car at a time, unless you bought a Car95 or a CarNT. But then you'd have to buy more seats. APPLE... Would make a car that was powered by the sun, was twice as fast, twice as easy to drive-but would only run on 5 percent of the roads. The Macintosh car owners would get expensive Microsoft upgrades to their cars, which would make their cars run much slower. The oil, engine, gas and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single General Car Fault warning light. New seats would force everyone to have the same size butt. The airbag system would say, Are you sure? before going off. If you were involved in a crash, you would have no idea what happened. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
Quoth David A. Bandel: [build 2.6 kernel] It's not the compilation that will get you, but the little things that you will forget to include or include as modules. In that respect, 2.6 is a nightmare. It's getting to the point that not just anyone can compile their own kernel and expect it to work. The config script needs simplification. Yup. Here's hoping They fix this. I can't zip through the configuration process they way I do with 2.4, but, at some point, I hope to be able so to do. Kurt -- To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and, whatever you hit, call it the target. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kurt Wall shocked and awed us all by speaking: Quoth David A. Bandel: [build 2.6 kernel] It's not the compilation that will get you, but the little things that you will forget to include or include as modules. In that respect, 2.6 is a nightmare. It's getting to the point that not just anyone can compile their own kernel and expect it to work. The config script needs simplification. Yup. Here's hoping They fix this. I can't zip through the configuration process they way I do with 2.4, but, at some point, I hope to be able so to do. not to rain on anyones parade, but I didn't have any issues compiling 2.6.0 . but then again, I use monolithic. now getting it to stay running, that's a different story. it's locked up twice on me since release - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Programmer (n): One who makes the lies the salesman told come true. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/IBkq2MO5UukaubkRAoi3AKC0diByMZAbVCyftfScYYH6Dv36ngCePO/r RhOffIAktbVoXFUAj0vQmU8= =edAr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mandrake or Slackware
Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. Any insights from the list would be appreciated. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
I've never honestly used either, howeer I'd suggest Mandrake for a laptop. Its alot more user friendly for getting it installed in a rush. On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. Any insights from the list would be appreciated. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
On Thursday 24 July 2003 16:04 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. SuSe Any insights from the list would be appreciated. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 07/24/03 16:19 + ++ When choosing between two evils, always try the one you have never tried before. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
On Thursday 24 July 2003 01:04 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. Any insights from the list would be appreciated. I'd choose whichever you are more familiar with. If you've never used either, start with Mandrake. Slack allows a much lower garbage quotient, but you have to spend more time on it. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Mandrake or Slackware
Aaron Grewell wrote: I'd choose whichever you are more familiar with. If you've never used either, start with Mandrake. Slack allows a much lower garbage quotient, but you have to spend more time on it. I see I wasn't clear enough. I don't have to do the install. Professionals will do that. I only have to choose from the options of Slackware or Mandrake. I've never used either, so I have no familiarity. I have some reference texts on Red Hat, and I understand that Mandrake is closest to that, but I'm hoping for some more information on compatibility with standard ( ;-}9 == tongue in cheek) Linux layout configuration. I'm most familiar with SuSE and Gentoo for my own experience, have built an LFS and installed Red Hat. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
I see I wasn't clear enough. I don't have to do the install. Professionals will do that. I only have to choose from the options of Slackware or Mandrake. I've never used either, so I have no familiarity. I have some reference texts on Red Hat, and I understand that Mandrake is closest to that, but I'm hoping for some more information on compatibility with standard ( ;-}9 == tongue in cheek) Linux layout configuration. I'm most familiar with SuSE and Gentoo for my own experience, have built an LFS and installed Red Hat. Oh. Well, what are they going to use it for? In theory, Mandrake is more standardized with regard to LSB, but with all their proprietary config tools they're probably just as strange as Slack (which uses BSD init among other non-LSB things) if not more so. The advantage for Mandrake is that the un-initiated will find it easier to set up and use. Slackware will give you exactly what you want as long as you're willing to do the work. If the installer isn't familiar with exactly what the user wants then they won't get it, since Slack's policy is 'if you didn't ask, you don't get it.' ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:46:09 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo will be joining the ranks of the boxed set of cd's distros on August 5, 2003. For those of you who don't have DSL/Cable or a CD burner, this will be your opportunity to avoid the slow downloads and, if you choose, much of the delays due to compiles that are associated with a gentoo install. Details at http://www.gentoo.org/. I've been putting off downloading it - now this I like! But I have one question. My system is an Athlon 1-Ghz machine. Which version of Gentoo would be appropriate? -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Problem installing netcat under linux
Hi I am trying to install *netcat* . As per the README i did $make linux [ As i my servier is redhat 8.0 ] But the following errors are coming:: make -e nc XFLAGS='-DLINUX' STATIC=-static make[1]: Entering directory `/home/swapna/netcat' cc -O -s -DLINUX -static -o nc netcat.c /tmp/cco40c3S.o: In function `main': /tmp/cco40c3S.o(.text+0x14fd): undefined reference to `res_init' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [nc] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swapna/netcat' make: *** [linux] Error 2 Can anyone help me out what i need to do? Thanks in advance -Swapna __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
Quoth Condon Thomas A KPWA: Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. Any insights from the list would be appreciated. I'd choose Slackware. Mandrake dinks with the kernel and makes a lot of other helpful decisions for you that you really prefer to make yourself. Slackware is lean and clean. As a result, I think it is faster and easier to maintain because you don't have to decipher Mandrake's way of doing things (or Red Hat's, or SuSE's, or...). Kurt -- One advantage of talking to yourself is that you know at least somebody's listening. -- Franklin P. Jones ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
On Thursday 24 July 2003 07:56 am, David A. Bandel wrote: It's not the compilation that will get you, but the little things that you will forget to include or include as modules. In that respect, 2.6 is a nightmare. It's getting to the point that not just anyone can compile their own kernel and expect it to work. The config script needs simplification. Ciao, David A. Bandel I have tried over recent months and none worked. So the explanation lies above. In many respects its a real pity, as that was to many, part of the fun of Linux, being able to compile your own kernel. They do call it progress but I see progress contains many losses as well as 'gains'. Do the gains outweigh the losses, in many cases I think not. As you say though it often gets back to the old bain, insufficient or bad documentation. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
On Thursday 24 July 2003 04:04 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. Any insights from the list would be appreciated. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) I use Mandrake for ease of installation and it does pick 99% of the hardware up correctly. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem installing netcat under linux
What version of netcat? On 07/24/03 14:39, Swapana Ghosh wrote: Hi I am trying to install *netcat* . As per the README i did $make linux [ As i my servier is redhat 8.0 ] But the following errors are coming:: make -e nc XFLAGS='-DLINUX' STATIC=-static make[1]: Entering directory `/home/swapna/netcat' cc -O -s -DLINUX -static -o nc netcat.c /tmp/cco40c3S.o: In function `main': /tmp/cco40c3S.o(.text+0x14fd): undefined reference to `res_init' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [nc] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/swapna/netcat' make: *** [linux] Error 2 -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:45pm up 9 days, 18:29, 1 user, load average: 0.43, 0.33, 0.16 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: my networking problem is over
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:56:37 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:37:25 -0400 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know what i did differently, obviously something but I am now connected with both XP and linux, plus the secondary machine is now also online. So my major problem is now solved. What can I do next to keep everyone busy, I know i'll do a 2.6 compile. All jokes aside many thanks to all those who put in their .05 cents worth. It's not the compilation that will get you, but the little things that you will forget to include or include as modules. In that respect, 2.6 is a nightmare. It's getting to the point that not just anyone can compile their own kernel and expect it to work. The config script needs simplification. At least they got rid of the make mrproper and make deps stuff. IMO, that's a very positive step. If you screw something up, change the config and remake, it's very quick. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Oracle on Linux....
Oracle on linux... fast! http://www.interealm.com/technotes/roby/pentmark.html -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 8:04pm up 14 days, 6:02, 4 users, load average: 2.95, 2.91, 2.75 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Oracle on Linux....
On 07/24/03 17:49, Jerry McBride wrote: Oracle on linux... fast! http://www.interealm.com/technotes/roby/pentmark.html Only when compared to on winders. Its still a huge, buggy, bloated pig, even if its got racing strips painted on it. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:55pm up 9 days, 20:39, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.14, 0.11 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:58:27 -0500 Alan Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:46:09 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo will be joining the ranks of the boxed set of cd's distros on August 5, 2003. I've been putting off downloading it - now this I like! But I have one question. My system is an Athlon 1-Ghz machine. Which version of Gentoo would be appropriate? The Athlon is an I686 machine. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:40:09 -0700 Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Grewell wrote: I'd choose whichever you are more familiar with. If you've never used either, start with Mandrake. Slack allows a much lower garbage quotient, but you have to spend more time on it. I see I wasn't clear enough. I don't have to do the install. Professionals will do that. I only have to choose from the options of Slackware or Mandrake. I've never used either, so I have no familiarity. I have some reference texts on Red Hat, and I understand that Mandrake is closest to that, but I'm hoping for some more information on compatibility withstandard ( ;-}9 == tongue in cheek) Linux layout configuration. I'm most familiar with SuSE and Gentoo for my own experience, have built an LFS and installed Red Hat. My $.02. Mandrake installs and runs a tremendous amount of software, and most of it is started without asking, a rather slow boot process, so my number 2 choice would be Slack. You can start small and add things and learn as you go. My number 1 choice, would be Gentoo, although it's more work initially. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..
OK, I've been on the list awhile without reading/posting much - re-hi to everyone. I've been doing a lot of BSD lately but for various reasons due to hardware/software restrictions I need to build a new Linux box to test out an email product I'm thinking about deploying. Problem is Compaq, in their infinite wisdom, only support a little subset of Linux distros. (hardware in question is a DL380-G2) I'm forced to stick with their supported distros because this particular server requires a proprietary health driver to slow its cooling fans down that Compaq only supplies pre-compiled binaries for. (grrr) The only modern Linux distros they support cost $$$, which is pretty ironic because it puts me back into the same monetary category as if I went and stuck Windows server on it. (triple-GRRR) (those distros include UnitedLinux 1.0, SuSe Enterprise and RedHat Enterprise) They also have this proprietary driver for RedHat 8.0, which of course I can't find on Redhat's ftp server and neither does LinuxISO.org have them. If anyone can point me to a source for RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly appreciate it. I find it highly ironic that it looks like it would be cheaper to use Solaris than Linux.. sigh. Below is a summary of newer Linux distros that Compaq supports: Caldera OL Server 3.1.1 (the hell if I install another SCO product, it's probably too old anyway, and they stopped selling Linux) SuSe Enterprise (costs as much as Windows Server, not downloadable) SuSe 7.2 Professional (can't find ISO's, and too old) SuSe 7.0 (can't find ISO's, and too old) RedHat Enterprise (costs as much as Windows Server, not downloadable. They seem to have some cheaper versions, but they're still minimum $200) -- Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers Communications for the New Millenium ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Video4Linux - Which cameras work?
Anyone know where to find a list of web cams that work with video4linux? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video4Linux - Which cameras work?
Quoth Michael Hipp: Anyone know where to find a list of web cams that work with video4linux? Start here: http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ http://www.thedirks.org/v4l2/ http://www.video4linux.net/ Kurt -- Why be a man when you can be a success? -- Bertold Brecht ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip J. Koenig wrote: snip ~ If anyone can point me to a source for | RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly | appreciate it. http://www.linux-works.org/iso/ I try to keep iso's for most current releases (though Mandrake and Gentoo haven't been updated recently). It's on an OC-3 so you shouldn't have any bandwidth problems. - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 7:55pm up 12 days, 53 min, 9 users, load average: 1.79, 1.30, 1.14 - - Weinberg's Principle: An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while sweeping on to the grand fallacy. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/II73idHQ0m/kEssRAhwCAJ4l0BcvBuywNivfnveV0rWUXWFSgQCeJ0q6 ufkpovZO3hjX2ytfTNYS5mM= =sSt9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video4Linux - Which cameras work?
On 07/24/03 18:39, Federico Voges wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:32:56 -0500, Michael Hipp wrote: Anyone know where to find a list of web cams that work with video4linux? I have a Philips PVC680K (discontinued) and it works. I used this page to choose a linux compatible camera: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?id=9 Here's the home page for the Philips driver. You can find the supported cameras there: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ I've got a Philips 690 (also discontinued, unfortunately), and it works very well under Linux. You can prolly still find them in some corners of the internet for sale though. And I wrote the SxS for it too. I'd suggest looking at the 2.4.x kernel config for what works, and then checking websites/usenet for user stories. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:00pm up 9 days, 21:44, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.24, 0.15 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
stupid knoppix/debian question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just installed Knoppix to hard disk on one of the kids' pcs.. and I need to know the 'must haves' for inclusion in the apt-sources(?) file? What URIs do I have to have to stay up-to-date on all the latest bug fixes and the latest kewl new app-of-the-day ? thanks - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Lately, the only thing keeping me from becoming a serial killer is my distaste for manual labor. -- Dilbert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/IJid2MO5UukaubkRAsoEAKCD+dPM48nWcvQDur3W5EAiYuk8ZACdEOu9 ZT3NcgRZ01Bdod6nxejqpIM= =rrkf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink..]
Sorry for the spamassassin tag, I needed a score readjustment on my end for the list's mail. Original Message Subject: *[SPAM]* Re: Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.. Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:59:19 -0600 From: Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@dyn205.ekahuna.com http://www.linux-works.org/iso/ has 8, 9, and severn, as well as Slackware 9, Knoppix, Sparc (Aurora Linux) and FreeBSD 4.8 and 5.0. I can provide ssh/scp under a guest account if you need. The SGI XFS Installer iso is there too, except for severn. Again, this system is on an OC-3 so have at 'em! -- Andrew Mathews - 8:37pm up 12 days, 1:35, 9 users, load average: 1.10, 1.13, 1.06 - Gary Hart: living proof that you *can* screw your brains out. -- ---BeginMessage--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip J. Koenig wrote: snip ~ If anyone can point me to a source for | RedHat 8.0 ISOs, or have another suggestion, I would greatly | appreciate it. http://www.linux-works.org/iso/ I try to keep iso's for most current releases (though Mandrake and Gentoo haven't been updated recently). It's on an OC-3 so you shouldn't have any bandwidth problems. - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 7:55pm up 12 days, 53 min, 9 users, load average: 1.79, 1.30, 1.14 - - Weinberg's Principle: An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while sweeping on to the grand fallacy. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/II73idHQ0m/kEssRAhwCAJ4l0BcvBuywNivfnveV0rWUXWFSgQCeJ0q6 ufkpovZO3hjX2ytfTNYS5mM= =sSt9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ---End Message--- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake or Slackware
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 01:04:06PM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, If you had to choose, with only a couple hours to decide, between Slackware and Mandrake for a laptop install, which would you choose? I don't know either of them well enough to make a logical decision, but I'm in the position of needing to make that decision. As somebody else said, I would choose SuSE. When I was looking for a replacement last year for the Caldera systems we've been using since 1995 or so, I looked seriously at Mandrake. I didn't like the looks of their finances at the time (why go from one bankrupt distro to another :-), and the best comment I saw was sombody who said ``Don't worry. the French government will take over if Mandrake fails''. The last thing I want to do is deal with a bureaucracy that's probably worse even than the one that runs this country. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation. -- Johnny Hart ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Oracle on Linux....
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 05:58:52PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: On 07/24/03 17:49, Jerry McBride wrote: Oracle on linux... fast! http://www.interealm.com/technotes/roby/pentmark.html Only when compared to on winders. Its still a huge, buggy, bloated pig, even if its got racing strips painted on it. When I first went to SCCA drivers school, I had to have three stripes on my car to indicate that a novice was driving. Only after one finished the requirements for a Regional License could these ``racing stripes'' be removed. Serious race cars rarely had much in the way of fancy body work or paint. It only slowed down the time to fix the car after a crash. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ The cry has been that when war is declared, all opposition should therefore be hushed. A sentiment more unworthy of a free country could hardly be propagated. If the doctrine be admitted, rulers have only to declare war and they are screened at once from scrutiny ... In war, then, as in peace, assert the freedom of speech and of the press. Cling to this as the bulwark of all our rights and privileges. -- William Ellery Channing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Problem installing netcat under linux
Hi Net Llama! netllama at linux-sxs.org Thu Jul 24 16:45:26 EDT 2003 What version of netcat? netcat version 1.10 Thanks for your response. But i could able to install - there was a faq and i found that the solution they are giving as follows: - Make an entry #include resolv.h in the netcat.c progaram - make linux I did the same and compilation was ok. Best regards. -Swapna __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
