error compiling lilo from source
what did I miss? is there a how-to on this? cc -c -O2 -Wall -g -DLILO=0x489b `( if [ -r $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines ]; then cat $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines; else echo -DBDATA -DDSECS=3 -DEVMS -DIGNORECASE -DLVM -DONE_SHOT -DPASS160 -DREISERFS -DREWRITE_TABLE -DSOLO_CHAIN -DVERSION -DVIRTUAL; fi ) | sed 's/-D/-DLCF_/g'` probe.c probe.c:250:1: directives may not be used inside a macro argument probe.c:249:15: unterminated argument list invoking macro printf probe.c: In function `notice': probe.c:256: parse error before string constant /usr/include/sys/stat.h: At top level: geometry.h:67: warning: array `max_partno' assumed to have one element make: *** [probe.o] Error 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: lilo-22.5.7.2 rpm -qf /usr/include/sys/stat.h glibc-devel-2.2.1-3 -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22 ^ ^2:04pm up 34 min, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LDAP AddressBook Web Front End
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:05:09 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So please share your personal biases and thanks a load! Remember, it needs to be platform-agnostic, so Web seems most fitting, Java works too. Heck, I'd settle for a Win32 app since I already have a great Linux app. A great Linux app to set the user-level directory info? Which one? -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Ricoh Caplio G3 Digital Camera and Linux
Folks, I have a Ricoh Caplio G3 and when I plug it in I get the following in /var/log/messages. Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:10.0-2, assigned address 2 Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x5ca/0x2204) is not claimed by any active driver. Oct 8 20:57:46 amd /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 5ca/2204/0 My questions are Is there a driver for it currently? (I googled but I have ping pong balls for eyes so couldn't find anything yet) Can I still download my pictures off it by mounting it somehow and copying them off or do I need to get a driver for it? If I require a driver is there one that already supports Ricoh cameras but just needs editing to include the newer Plug n' Play vendor id and then recompilation? Could you guys recommend a website for all things Linux and digital camera wise? Thanks. -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 I'm dying, he croaked. My experiment was a success, the chemist retorted . You can't really train a beagle, he dogmatized. That's no beagle, it's a mongrel, she muttered. The fire is going out, he bellowed. Bad marksmanship, the hunter groused. You ought to see a psychiatrist, he reminded me. You snake, she rattled. Someone's at the door, she chimed. Company's coming, she guessed. Dawn came too soon, she mourned. I think I'll end it all, Sue sighed. I ordered chocolate, not vanilla, I screamed. Your embroidery is sloppy, she needled cruelly. Where did you get this meat? he bridled hoarsely. -- Gyles Brandreth, The Joy of Lex Linux 2.4.22 #1 Mon Sep 1 20:03:11 EST 2003 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 21:00:00 up 4 days, 19:01, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.11, 0.10 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Oops! (different machine)
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Testing new backup procedures on one of my machines, I kept locking up half-way through, consistently. This last time, I got a kernel Oops (happened to be watching it through a serial connection so I was able to save it). I'm pretty sure it's the HW. It's a 300a that's been overclocked to 450 for 3-4 years, we don't have central AC, and it used to be a gaming machine :) I've dropped the bus to 66MHz (300MHz on the proc) and if it happens again, I'll reseat the memory, CPU, HD connections, etc... Also, I'm running HDPARM with -c 1 and -d 1 Do you suppose that might cause this? I just wanted to show off my kewl Kernel Messages :) Oops: 2.4.20-4GB #1 Wed Aug 6 18:26:21 UTC 2003 CPU:0 EIP:0010:[c014653b]Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010007 eax: ebx: d15f4a60 ecx: 0001 edx: 0168ce60 esi: edi: 0002 ebp: c1341a50 esp: c031bed4 ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c031b000) Stack: c03ac500 d15f4a60 dff46560 0008 c01d28e8 d15f4a60 0001 dff46560 c03ac4f0 0016 0001 c01f7415 dff46560 0001 c03ac4f0 0048 c03ac4f0 dff46560 c03ac440 c01f9adf c03ac4f0 0001 c01fe8a1 c03ac4f0 Call Trace:[c01d28e8] [c01f7415] [c01f9adf] [c01fe8a1] [c01f885c] [c01fe820] [c010a180] [c010a31d] [c0106f90] [c010c5f8] [c0106f90] [c0106fb4] [c0107012] [c0105000] Code: 8b 42 18 a8 04 75 ee a8 01 0f 95 c0 25 ff 00 00 00 f7 d8 21 0Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! In interrupt handler - not syncing Yea, that's definitely a hardware problem. I'd hazard a guess that your CPU is dying, possibly from being overclocked for too long. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: error compiling lilo from source
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote: what did I miss? is there a how-to on this? cc -c -O2 -Wall -g -DLILO=0x489b `( if [ -r $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines ]; then cat $ROOT/etc/lilo.defines; else echo -DBDATA -DDSECS=3 -DEVMS -DIGNORECASE -DLVM -DONE_SHOT -DPASS160 -DREISERFS -DREWRITE_TABLE -DSOLO_CHAIN -DVERSION -DVIRTUAL; fi ) | sed 's/-D/-DLCF_/g'` probe.c probe.c:250:1: directives may not be used inside a macro argument probe.c:249:15: unterminated argument list invoking macro printf probe.c: In function `notice': probe.c:256: parse error before string constant /usr/include/sys/stat.h: At top level: geometry.h:67: warning: array `max_partno' assumed to have one element make: *** [probe.o] Error 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: lilo-22.5.7.2 rpm -qf /usr/include/sys/stat.h glibc-devel-2.2.1-3 LILO is very sensitive to the gcc, glibc binutils versions that you have installed. Some quick googling suggests that the version of gcc or glibc could cause the error that you're seeing. Interestingly, someone posted the same error here: http://freshmeat.net/projects/lilo/?topic_id=139 my money is on glibc. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
FrontPage 2002 extension and Redhat 9
I am installing Frontpage extenstion on Redhat 9 with apache 1.3.28, and get the following error: Creating web http://. ./fp_install.sh: line 2237: 5544 Segmentation fault ${FPDIR}/bin/owsadm.exe -o install -p $port $web $config -u $admin $chown -m ERROR: / installation failed. Hit enter to continue Does anybody experience this problem and how did you fix it ? Thanks, Vu ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Ricoh Caplio G3 Digital Camera and Linux
Folks, I have a Ricoh Caplio G3 and when I plug it in I get the following in /var/log/messages. Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:10.0-2, assigned address 2 Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x5ca/0x2204) is not claimed by any active driver. Oct 8 20:57:46 amd /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 5ca/2204/0 My questions are Is there a driver for it currently? (I googled but I have ping pong balls for eyes so couldn't find anything yet) Can I still download my pictures off it by mounting it somehow and copying them off or do I need to get a driver for it? If I require a driver is there one that already supports Ricoh cameras but just needs editing to include the newer Plug n' Play vendor id and then recompilation? Could you guys recommend a website for all things Linux and digital camera wise? Thanks. -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 I'm dying, he croaked. My experiment was a success, the chemist retorted . You can't really train a beagle, he dogmatized. That's no beagle, it's a mongrel, she muttered. The fire is going out, he bellowed. Bad marksmanship, the hunter groused. You ought to see a psychiatrist, he reminded me. You snake, she rattled. Someone's at the door, she chimed. Company's coming, she guessed. Dawn came too soon, she mourned. I think I'll end it all, Sue sighed. I ordered chocolate, not vanilla, I screamed. Your embroidery is sloppy, she needled cruelly. Where did you get this meat? he bridled hoarsely. -- Gyles Brandreth, The Joy of Lex Linux 2.4.22 #1 Mon Sep 1 20:03:11 EST 2003 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 21:00:00 up 4 days, 19:01, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.11, 0.10 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LDAP AddressBook Web Front End
I'm pretty sold on DirectoryAdministrator for Linux - Original Message - From: Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:55 AM Subject: Re: LDAP AddressBook Web Front End On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:05:09 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So please share your personal biases and thanks a load! Remember, it needs to be platform-agnostic, so Web seems most fitting, Java works too. Heck, I'd settle for a Win32 app since I already have a great Linux app. A great Linux app to set the user-level directory info? Which one? -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Your kernel doesn't have bigmem support. x86 architecture on linux supports up to 64GB. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
Yes, but most stock kernels support up to 4GB, which is still more than 2GB this guy's using... - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Maximum Memory in Linux On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Your kernel doesn't have bigmem support. x86 architecture on linux supports up to 64GB. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
Brian Simper wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Thanks, Brian You probably need to recompile your kernel to support > 1GB. At least that is what you need to do with Libranet Debian. Recompiling the Libranet kernel is easy - I did it to match the CPU's on my boxes (default is 486). -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System LI ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: At risk of suggesting the obvious, does your BIOS recognize all the memory? Some machines have built-in hardware limits. How old is the hardware? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
The 'stock' Redhat kernel suports no more than 1GB. SuSE kernels might support more. Redhat includes a 'bigmem' kernel which supports 16GB. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Yes, but most stock kernels support up to 4GB, which is still more than 2GB this guy's using... - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Maximum Memory in Linux On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Your kernel doesn't have bigmem support. x86 architecture on linux supports up to 64GB. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:44:51 -0700 Simper, Brian D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Make sure you compile your kernel with the option 4Gb RAM (look under Processor Type and Features). Normally, the stock RH kernel is compiled w/ 4Gb, but I don't know about RH 9.0. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'stock' Redhat kernel suports no more than 1GB. SuSE kernels might support more. Redhat includes a 'bigmem' kernel which supports 16GB. kernels support up to: 1Gb, 4Gb, 64Gb depending on the kernel compile option. There's no 16Gb option. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
Really? Wow. UL support 4GB out of the box. UL includes both CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G as well as CONFIG_1GB. I know there is also an option for 64GB. (from /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help) 4GB CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G Select this if you have a 32-bit processor and between 1 and 4 gigabytes of physical RAM. 64GB CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G Select this if you have a 32-bit processor and more than 4 gigabytes of physical RAM. User address space size CONFIG_1GB If you have 4 Gigabytes of physical memory or less, you can change where the kernel maps high memory. Typically there will 128 megabytes less user memory mapped than the number in the configuration option. Saying that another way, high memory will usually start 128 megabytes lower than the configuration option. Selecting 05GB results in a 3.5GB/0.5GB kernel/user split: On a system with 1 gigabyte of physical memory, you may get 384 megabytes of user memory and 640 megabytes of high memory with this selection. Selecting 1GB results in a 3GB/1GB kernel/user split: On a system with 1 gigabyte of memory, you may get 896 MB of user memory and 128 megabytes of high memory with this selection. This is the usual setting. Selecting 2GB results in a 2GB/2GB kernel/user split: On a system with less than 1.75 gigabytes of physical memory, this option will make it so no memory is mapped as high. Selecting 3GB results in a 1GB/3GB kernel/user split: If unsure, say 1GB. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'stock' Redhat kernel suports no more than 1GB. SuSE kernels might support more. Redhat includes a 'bigmem' kernel which supports 16GB. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Yes, but most stock kernels support up to 4GB, which is still more than 2GB this guy's using... - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Maximum Memory in Linux On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:902768 672416 230352 0 45820 193564 -/+ buffers/cache: 433032 469736 Swap: 522216 25124 497092 This is Red Hat Linux 9 machine with a stock kernel. Am I missing some crucial point? Has anyone else dealt with a lower than expected reported memory? Your kernel doesn't have bigmem support. x86 architecture on linux supports up to 64GB. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
If you can follow this conversation, could someone tell me why the file 'wx-config' immediately becomes an orphan as soon as it is installed? What am I missing THIS time? # ls /usr/bin/wx-config /usr/bin/wx-config # rpm -e wxGTK-devel-2.4.2-1 wxGTK-2.4.2-1 # ls /usr/bin/wx-config ls: /usr/bin/wx-config: No such file or directory # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/wx-config error: file /usr/bin/wx-config: No such file or directory # rpm -i wxGTK-2.4.2-1.i386.rpm wxGTK-devel-2.4.2-1.i386.rpm # ls /usr/bin/wx-config /usr/bin/wx-config # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/wx-config file /usr/bin/wx-config is not owned by any package # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/aspell aspell-0.33.7.1-21 (That last one just to be sure I'm typing the command right.) It's a conspiracy, I tell you, a conspiracy! They're out to make me feel stupid. Well, stupider. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
Before you go re-rolling kernels, check this out: http://kb.redhat.com/view.php?eid=71 -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ricoh Caplio G3 Digital Camera and Linux
James McDonald wrote: Could you guys recommend a website for all things Linux and digital camera wise? Thanks. http://www.linux-usb.org/ -- Ken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ricoh Caplio G3 Digital Camera and Linux
James McDonald wrote: Folks, I have a Ricoh Caplio G3 and when I plug it in I get the following in /var/log/messages. Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:10.0-2, assigned address 2 Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x5ca/0x2204) is not claimed by any active driver. Oct 8 20:57:46 amd /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 5ca/2204/0 What kernel are you running? -- Ken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Hipp wrote: | If you can follow this conversation, could someone tell me why the file | 'wx-config' immediately becomes an orphan as soon as it is installed? | What am I missing THIS time? | | # ls /usr/bin/wx-config | /usr/bin/wx-config | # rpm -e wxGTK-devel-2.4.2-1 wxGTK-2.4.2-1 | # ls /usr/bin/wx-config | ls: /usr/bin/wx-config: No such file or directory | # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/wx-config | error: file /usr/bin/wx-config: No such file or directory | # rpm -i wxGTK-2.4.2-1.i386.rpm wxGTK-devel-2.4.2-1.i386.rpm | # ls /usr/bin/wx-config | /usr/bin/wx-config | # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/wx-config | file /usr/bin/wx-config is not owned by any package | # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/aspell | aspell-0.33.7.1-21 | | (That last one just to be sure I'm typing the command right.) | | It's a conspiracy, I tell you, a conspiracy! They're out to make me feel | stupid. Well, stupider. | | Michael | Sounds like your rpm isn't built for the distro you're trying to install it on, but something altogether different. Can you properly query the package with rpm -qpl packagename.rpm and list the fileset? - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 5:15pm up 7 days, 22:35, 9 users, load average: 1.09, 1.09, 1.10 - - Many people are secretly interested in life. - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hJtbidHQ0m/kEssRAu9sAJ93Un+1/c5Q3k5XsV2z5EKEuRLzygCfR8/5 9SlA86WiXc1cb8+ACyhcVKY= =S+u6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ricoh Caplio G3 Digital Camera and Linux
http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html states seems to not work as is You might try a very new kernel. 2.5. or 2.6.0 -- Ken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Simper, Brian D wrote: Is there a theoretical or functional maximum memory you can put in a Linux machine? I have a server with 2GB installed but the free command stubbornly says: # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set The standard /boot/config-2.4.20-8 contains the above settings which is fine what your problem is -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket. -- George Orwell Linux 2.4.22 #1 Mon Sep 1 20:03:11 EST 2003 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 09:25:00 up 5 days, 7:26, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
Andrew Mathews wrote: Sounds like your rpm isn't built for the distro you're trying to install it on, but something altogether different. Can you properly query the package with rpm -qpl packagename.rpm and list the fileset? It's the RPM that came in RH9 as far as I know. I don't recall upgrading it unless it came via up2date. I have installed 'checkinstall', but I don't think that upgrades RPM. Yes, rpm -qpl will list the files, but oddly enough when I 'grep config' the output 'wx-config' does not appear in the list from either of the two packages. But I know the 'devel' package is installing it. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ricoh Caplio G3 Digital Camera and Linux
Ken Moffat wrote: James McDonald wrote: Folks, I have a Ricoh Caplio G3 and when I plug it in I get the following in /var/log/messages. Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:10.0-2, assigned address 2 Oct 8 20:57:43 amd kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x5ca/0x2204) is not claimed by any active driver. Oct 8 20:57:46 amd /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB product 5ca/2204/0 What kernel are you running? [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]$ uname -r 2.4.22 -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 Changing husbands/wives is only changing troubles. -- Kathleen Norris Linux 2.4.22 #1 Mon Sep 1 20:03:11 EST 2003 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 09:45:00 up 5 days, 7:46, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.20, 0.12 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
First off, what Linux distro are you using, and secondly, do you need 2.4.2 or would 2.4.0 work? If you are running SuSE, check out: http://packman.links2linux.de/?action=312 On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:46:23 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can follow this conversation, could someone tell me why the file 'wx-config' immediately becomes an orphan as soon as it is installed? What am I missing THIS time? # ls /usr/bin/wx-config /usr/bin/wx-config # rpm -e wxGTK-devel-2.4.2-1 wxGTK-2.4.2-1 # ls /usr/bin/wx-config ls: /usr/bin/wx-config: No such file or directory # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/wx-config error: file /usr/bin/wx-config: No such file or directory # rpm -i wxGTK-2.4.2-1.i386.rpm wxGTK-devel-2.4.2-1.i386.rpm # ls /usr/bin/wx-config /usr/bin/wx-config # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/wx-config file /usr/bin/wx-config is not owned by any package # rpm -q -f /usr/bin/aspell aspell-0.33.7.1-21 (That last one just to be sure I'm typing the command right.) It's a conspiracy, I tell you, a conspiracy! They're out to make me feel stupid. Well, stupider. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FrontPage 2002 extension and Redhat 9
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Vu Pham wrote: I am installing Frontpage extenstion on Redhat 9 with apache 1.3.28, and get the following error: Creating web http://. ./fp_install.sh: line 2237: 5544 Segmentation fault ${FPDIR}/bin/owsadm.exe -o install -p $port $web $config -u $admin $chown -m ERROR: / installation failed. Hit enter to continue Does anybody experience this problem and how did you fix it ? its been awhile since looking at frontpage on apache. I do remember this site, which may provide some help for your endeavours. http://www.joshie.com/projects/apache-frontpage/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test
Home office... That count? On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:32:11 -0500 ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone home? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Hipp wrote: | Andrew Mathews wrote: | | Sounds like your rpm isn't built for the distro you're trying to install | it on, but something altogether different. Can you properly query the | package with rpm -qpl packagename.rpm and list the fileset? | | | It's the RPM that came in RH9 as far as I know. I don't recall upgrading | it unless it came via up2date. I have installed 'checkinstall', but I | don't think that upgrades RPM. Sorry, I wasn't clear, I meant the package you're trying to install, not rpm itself. | Yes, rpm -qpl will list the files, but oddly enough when I 'grep config' | the output 'wx-config' does not appear in the list from either of the | two packages. But I know the 'devel' package is installing it. | | Michael | - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 6:32pm up 7 days, 23:52, 9 users, load average: 1.10, 1.15, 1.14 - - Knock, knock! Who's there? Sam and Janet. Sam and Janet who? Sam and Janet Evening... - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/hK0IidHQ0m/kEssRAic0AKCDCekn/eiklo5k+BpE8strDXfaFwCfQrAO BikQRoe6ivX9lFhRuz+FqN4= =uK1a -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ricoh Caplio G3 Digital Camera and Linux
James McDonald wrote: What kernel are you running? [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]$ uname -r 2.4.22 Pretty new. Thought you might have an old one and could update. -- Ken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Greylisting
I was reading this article on greylisting and I find the premise to be interesting. http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/ Has anyone tried greylisting? Any experiences worth sharing? Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406 FAX www.LynchDigital.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Apache/PHP revisited
I just found an interesting twist to my recent php woes. I have been attempting to get squirrelmail working using a named virtual host, webmail.eisgr.com, which is actually pointing at /srv/www/htdocs/squirrelmail/. It sends me the index.php file as text seemingly no matter what I do. However, if I access the site using the default site: http://www.eisgr.com/squirrelmail/ everything works flawlessly. This is sounding more like an Apache config thing than a PHP/Apache marriage thing... I thought that the definitions used for the default site carried over to all virtuals unless otherwise defined in that virtual. Can someone set me straight here? Thanks! Matt -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Stupid RPM, or just me???
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:25:36 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong, or is RPM a Microsoft conspiracy to make Linux look bad: I love it! Will file this away. RPM, like any other software product, has syntax that must be learned. That being said, any package manager that does not do dependancy resolution is borken, from my perspective. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Greylisting
No, but I'll be looking into it as soon as the schedule lets up next week. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:33 -0400 Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: projects -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Greylisting
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:33 -0400 Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reading this article on greylisting and I find the premise to be interesting. http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/ Has anyone tried greylisting? Any experiences worth sharing? No. But the most effective spam-blocker I've found to date is milter-sender: http://www.snert.com/Software/milter-sender/ Basically, when someone sends you an e-mail, milter-sender connects back to the sender's primary MX. If the sender's MX doesn't exist -- reject; if the MX responds that the sender doesn't exist or his mailbox is full -- reject. My mail server has been rejecting hundreds of spams. Seems to be working well. Then spamassassin-milter takes care of the rest. (I really like sendmail's milter facility -- good stuff). Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test
Quoth ronnie gauthier: anyone home? No. I'm at work. Kurt -- It is the business of little minds to shrink. -- Carl Sandburg ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
Quoth Michael Hipp: If you can follow this conversation, could someone tell me why the file 'wx-config' immediately becomes an orphan as soon as it is installed? What am I missing THIS time? Is wx-config a symlink to another file that *is* installed by the RPM? Kurt -- It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
Quoth Michael Hipp: Andrew Mathews wrote: Sounds like your rpm isn't built for the distro you're trying to install it on, but something altogether different. Can you properly query the package with rpm -qpl packagename.rpm and list the fileset? It's the RPM that came in RH9 as far as I know. I don't recall upgrading it unless it came via up2date. I have installed 'checkinstall', but I don't think that upgrades RPM. Yes, rpm -qpl will list the files, but oddly enough when I 'grep config' the output 'wx-config' does not appear in the list from either of the two packages. But I know the 'devel' package is installing it. I'm betting that a %post-install script creates a symlink. Perhaps a command like rpm -q --scripts pkg.name.rpm (if memory serves) will tell you what you want to know? You're looking for a command that creates a symlink. It's been awhile since I was intimate with RPM, but symlinks created by a post-install script aren't considered (or weren't at one time) as part of the RPM, although a properly-crafted remove script (executed when you rpm -e pkg.name.rpm) will remove symlinks created when the RPM was installed. Kurt -- Limericks are art forms complex, Their topics run chiefly to sex. They usually have virgins, And masculine urgin's, And other erotic effects. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
quoth Rick Sivernell: | DEP your right that if no print she will not be totally happy. | | Good news here - last weekend we had our 1st Sat computer sale. I | bought 2 scsi HP6100c scanners for $5.00 total. I have one on wife's | machine and suse setit up and scanned. wait a minute here. i thought the issue was getting stuff inside the computer to come out and appear on paper -- but what you've done is get stuff to jump off the paper and go inside the computer. which is kind of like a radio station where they can only listen to the radio, not broadcast . . . -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
Kurt Wall wrote: I'm betting that a %post-install script creates a symlink. Perhaps a command like rpm -q --scripts pkg.name.rpm (if memory serves) will tell you what you want to know? You're looking for a command that creates a symlink. It's been awhile since I was intimate with RPM, but symlinks created by a post-install script aren't considered (or weren't at one time) as part of the RPM, although a properly-crafted remove script (executed when you rpm -e pkg.name.rpm) will remove symlinks created when the RPM was installed. That's it. It is a symlink (no doubt created by a script as you said). Still seems like an erroneous result to say it belongs to no package when in fact it certainly does. Being able to figure out who/what installed a particular file is a basic package management feature, IMHO. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
Andrew Mathews wrote: Sorry, I wasn't clear, I meant the package you're trying to install, not rpm itself. It's not Red Hat specific in any way, but I've been using the slightly earlier version with no problems. And, in fact, this one is working fine now. Whereas yesterday bash kept telling me it couldn't find that particular file (wx-config). An uninstall, re-install seems to have fixed it. Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Importing mutt aliases into Netscape 7
Does anyone know of a way to import addresses from a text file like mutt aliases into a more convoluted file like the abook of mozilla? Or,failing that, is there a simple explanation somewhere of the abook data format? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
Matthew Carpenter wrote: First off, what Linux distro are you using, and secondly, do you need 2.4.2 or would 2.4.0 work? If you are running SuSE, check out: http://packman.links2linux.de/?action=312 It's Red Hat 9. I've been running 2.4.1 with no problems but thought to upgrade to 2.4.2 as it is a the latest stable and fixes some bugs. I'm developing a couple of apps using wxWindows. Not real deep into it yet, but so far I'm very impressed with wxWindows. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
Quoth Michael Hipp: Kurt Wall wrote: I'm betting that a %post-install script creates a symlink. Perhaps a command like rpm -q --scripts pkg.name.rpm (if memory serves) will tell you what you want to know? You're looking for a command that creates a symlink. It's been awhile since I was intimate with RPM, but symlinks created by a post-install script aren't considered (or weren't at one time) as part of the RPM, although a properly-crafted remove script (executed when you rpm -e pkg.name.rpm) will remove symlinks created when the RPM was installed. That's it. It is a symlink (no doubt created by a script as you said). Still seems like an erroneous result to say it belongs to no package when in fact it certainly does. Being able to figure out who/what installed a particular file is a basic package management feature, IMHO. Perhaps. RPM's notion of a file list does not include symlinks created outside that list. This constitutes a design flaw, perhaps, but there might be reasons for this decision to which I'm not privy. In any event, I'm glad we worked out the problem. Kurt -- Today is the first day of the rest of your lossage. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Importing mutt aliases into Netscape 7
Quoth Joel Hammer: Does anyone know of a way to import addresses from a text file like mutt aliases into a more convoluted file like the abook of mozilla? Or,failing that, is there a simple explanation somewhere of the abook data format? http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/arch/index.html Kurt -- Really ?? What a coincidence, I'm shallow too!! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More RPM madness - I'm sure it's just me ...
No, it's most likely because the link is created during a post-install script, not listed in the official file list which RPM uses to populate its database. On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:02:52 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Michael Hipp: Kurt Wall wrote: I'm betting that a %post-install script creates a symlink. Perhaps a command like rpm -q --scripts pkg.name.rpm (if memory serves) will tell you what you want to know? You're looking for a command that creates a symlink. It's been awhile since I was intimate with RPM, but symlinks created by a post-install script aren't considered (or weren't at one time) as part of the RPM, although a properly-crafted remove script (executed when you rpm -e pkg.name.rpm) will remove symlinks created when the RPM was installed. That's it. It is a symlink (no doubt created by a script as you said). Still seems like an erroneous result to say it belongs to no package when in fact it certainly does. Being able to figure out who/what installed a particular file is a basic package management feature, IMHO. Perhaps. RPM's notion of a file list does not include symlinks created outside that list. This constitutes a design flaw, perhaps, but there might be reasons for this decision to which I'm not privy. In any event, I'm glad we worked out the problem. Kurt -- Today is the first day of the rest of your lossage. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Server Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users