Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-16 Thread Andrew Mathews 
Keith Morse wrote:

Sorry to mess up the threading, all the mails for this topic had been 
deployed from my inbox.  In a somewhat related update to the subject.

snip

Subject: [isp-wireless] DirecTV 90 days left

http://www.directvdsl.com/


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Ouch. That's bad news for the terrestrial subscribers.
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DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-15 Thread Keith Morse 

Sorry to mess up the threading, all the mails for this topic had been 
deployed from my inbox.  In a somewhat related update to the subject.





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DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Tony Alfrey 
I'm getting sales literature from my isp trying to sell me a DirectWay 
satellite link (the Hughes box).  The sales support people tell me I 
gotta use Windoze (ugh, ugh, ugh) and I seem to remember seeing 
something about an upcoming unix port.
Is anybody out there using this DirectWay setup, and better yet, are you 
using linux??
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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread C M Reinehr 
Tony Alfrey wrote:

 I'm getting sales literature from my isp trying to sell me a DirectWay
 satellite link (the Hughes box).  The sales support people tell me I
 gotta use Windoze (ugh, ugh, ugh) and I seem to remember seeing
 something about an upcoming unix port.
 Is anybody out there using this DirectWay setup, and better yet, are you
 using linux??
 Thanks

Here's a couple of links which may help. My quick review seems to indicate 
that you shouldn't get your hopes up.  I'm not using a satellite service 
myself, but I was interested in it as a possible alternative. Please post 
if you find anything promissing.

DirecPC Linux Driver Project: http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/drivers/direcpc/

Satellite Data and Alternative Operating Systems: 
http://www.jasonn.com/sat-data/

DirecWay 2-Way High Speed Internet via Satellite:
http://www.macteks.com/sat/

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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Tony Alfrey 
On Friday 13 December 2002 10:47 am, C M Reinehr wrote:
 Tony Alfrey wrote:
snip
  Is anybody out there using this DirectWay setup, and better yet,
  are you using linux??
  Thanks

 Here's a couple of links which may help. My quick review seems to
 indicate that you shouldn't get your hopes up.  I'm not using a
 satellite service myself, but I was interested in it as a possible
 alternative. Please post if you find anything promissing.

snip

Thanks!  I found satellite + Linux now for 1 boat payment ($1K) +
the satellite installation ( $0.6K from earthlink).

http://www.helius.com/products/hsrdpc.html

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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Keith Morse 
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, C M Reinehr wrote:

 Tony Alfrey wrote:
 
  I'm getting sales literature from my isp trying to sell me a DirectWay
  satellite link (the Hughes box).  The sales support people tell me I
  gotta use Windoze (ugh, ugh, ugh) and I seem to remember seeing
  something about an upcoming unix port.
  Is anybody out there using this DirectWay setup, and better yet, are you
  using linux??
  Thanks
 
 Here's a couple of links which may help. My quick review seems to indicate 
 that you shouldn't get your hopes up.  I'm not using a satellite service 
 myself, but I was interested in it as a possible alternative. Please post 
 if you find anything promissing.
 
 DirecPC Linux Driver Project: http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/drivers/direcpc/
 
 Satellite Data and Alternative Operating Systems: 
 http://www.jasonn.com/sat-data/
 
 DirecWay 2-Way High Speed Internet via Satellite:
 http://www.macteks.com/sat/


From a posting on the isp-wireless list today, there was a news article 
that said that DirectTV will be scrapping DirectWay in the near future.



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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Tony Alfrey 
On Friday 13 December 2002 12:50 pm, Keith Morse wrote:
snip

 From a posting on the isp-wireless list today, there was a news
 article that said that DirectTV will be scrapping DirectWay in the
 near future.

But what does that mean vis-a-vis getting DirectWay straight from an isp 
like earthlink??  Does it simply mean that I can't get TV over the same 
link any more??



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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Andrew Mathews 
Keith Morse wrote:
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From a posting on the isp-wireless list today, there was a news article 
that said that DirectTV will be scrapping DirectWay in the near future.


snip

Hopefully not. The correction states:
quote
FYI - This is from NRTC, a Powered by DirecWay partner

December 13, 2002

Hughes Denies DIRECWAY Comments in
The Wall Street Journal, Dec. 12

Hughes Network Systems (HNS) has assured NRTC that an article appearing 
in the Dec. 12 Wall Street Journal under the headline “Hughes to Halt 
Internet Offerings It Views Risky,” is in error.  Hughes tells us that 
The Journal took comments made several months ago by Jack Shaw, CEO of 
HNS parent company Hughes Electronics, out of context.

An NRTC representative was present earlier this week when HNS CEO 
Pradman Kaul outlined the company’s current position on DIRECWAY during 
the Lehman Brothers Technology Conference in Orlando, FL.  At that 
conference, Kaul said that HNS is continuing to offer DIRECWAY and 
expects to add 100,000 residential and small-office/home-office 
customers in the coming year.  In fact, he said, HNS currently is adding 
3,000 new DIRECWAY subscribers a week, which is ahead of the 
100,000-per-year pace.

Kaul also said that subscriber acquisition cost (SAC) is the most 
significant factor limiting DIRECWAY growth.  He estimated SAC to be 
$400-$500 per subscriber.  In our communications with HNS, they have 
indicated their desire to move away from the subsidization of DIRECWAY 
and retail distribution through DIRECTV. Instead, they seek to shift 
more distribution to “Powered by partners,” including NRTC.  Hughes has 
said that they will focus their efforts on the Enterprise and SOHO 
marketplaces.

In July 2002, Jack Shaw speculated in public on the possibility of 
discontinuing DIRECWAY service.  Shaw’s comments appeared at the height 
of the public relations battle surrounding the proposed EchoStar/DIRECTV 
merger. At the time, many analysts believed that HNS was using Shaw’s 
comments and similar messages in an attempt to sway public opinion in 
favor of the proposed merger.  The Wall Street Journal reporter appears 
to have used those out-of-date statements as the basis of the article.

NRTC responded to the July 2002 comments in the July 19 issue of The 
Download.  As stated in that item, HNS executives assured NRTC then (and 
continue to assure) that they are not planning to pull the plug on 
DIRECWAY and will continue to support ongoing operation of that business.

Steve Weaver
Cherryland Online Services
/quote

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http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wireless/0212/msg06472.html
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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Jerry McBride 
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:21:58 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm getting sales literature from my isp trying to sell me a DirectWay 
 satellite link (the Hughes box).  The sales support people tell me I 
 gotta use Windoze (ugh, ugh, ugh) and I seem to remember seeing 
 something about an upcoming unix port.
 Is anybody out there using this DirectWay setup, and better yet, are you 
 using linux??

I have a client that uses it... She tells me there's a killer lag between
requesting a page and actually getting. I haven't a clue if it's the speed of
light limit or hardware problems t Huges.

As for a linux client in that setup,  never heard of such a thing. It'd be great
though.

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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb 
I was told by the owner of a company that installs satellite systems that 
there is about a 750 ms lag in communications.  He was installing an dish I 
used for Educational channels for me and while talking to him I found out 
his company also did satellites and he had the satellite Internet from the 
company he repped.  Makes it kind of bad for online gamers G.


 On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:21:58 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I'm getting sales literature from my isp trying to sell me a DirectWay
 
 I have a client that uses it... She tells me there's a killer lag between
 requesting a page and actually getting. I haven't a clue if it's the speed
 of light limit or hardware problems t Huges.
 
 As for a linux client in that setup,  never heard of such a thing. It'd be
 great though.
 
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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Tony Alfrey 
On Friday 13 December 2002 03:58 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:21:58 -0800 Tony Alfrey 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm getting sales literature from my isp trying to sell me a
  DirectWay satellite link (the Hughes box).  The sales support
  people tell me I gotta use Windoze (ugh, ugh, ugh) and I seem to
  remember seeing something about an upcoming unix port.
  Is anybody out there using this DirectWay setup, and better yet,
  are you using linux??

 I have a client that uses it... She tells me there's a killer lag
 between requesting a page and actually getting. I haven't a clue if
 it's the speed of light limit or hardware problems t Huges.


Based on what I think the radius of a geosynchronous orbit is, the speed 
of light lag up and down two ways should be a little under 1/2 second. 
g


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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Net Llama! 
On 12/13/02 19:46, Tony Alfrey wrote:

On Friday 13 December 2002 03:58 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:21:58 -0800 Tony Alfrey 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm getting sales literature from my isp trying to sell me a
 DirectWay satellite link (the Hughes box).  The sales support
 people tell me I gotta use Windoze (ugh, ugh, ugh) and I seem to
 remember seeing something about an upcoming unix port.
 Is anybody out there using this DirectWay setup, and better yet,
 are you using linux??

I have a client that uses it... She tells me there's a killer lag
between requesting a page and actually getting. I haven't a clue if
it's the speed of light limit or hardware problems t Huges.



Based on what I think the radius of a geosynchronous orbit is, the speed 
of light lag up and down two ways should be a little under 1/2 second. 

Actually, I'm fairly certain its even significantly less than that.

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Re: DirectWay/Linux?

2002-12-13 Thread Keith Morse 
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Tony Alfrey wrote:

 On Friday 13 December 2002 12:50 pm, Keith Morse wrote:
 snip
 
  From a posting on the isp-wireless list today, there was a news
  article that said that DirectTV will be scrapping DirectWay in the
  near future.
 
 But what does that mean vis-a-vis getting DirectWay straight from an isp 
 like earthlink??  Does it simply mean that I can't get TV over the same 
 link any more??

And to complement Tony's posting, this is the original URL that was the 
basis of my post.

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB1039658035232439153,00.html



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