Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-20 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:36:20 -0800 (PST) Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:

 Because the F'ing vendors of those devices only make their 
 config/management tools able to run under windows and the bulk of your 
 staff are thoroughly perplexed as to the nature and reason for a 
 command line.

I know what you mean.  Our new comm system need you to run a DOS based
serial app to configure parts of the system while using a custom
Telnet/FTP/something IP Winblows app for other configs at the same time. 
Win2K is fairly inept at DOS stuff  Makes it interesting..
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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-20 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 20 November 2003 08:39 am, Shawn Tayler wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:36:20 -0800 (PST) Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 professed:
  Because the F'ing vendors of those devices only make their
  config/management tools able to run under windows and the bulk of your
  staff are thoroughly perplexed as to the nature and reason for a
  command line.

 I know what you mean.  Our new comm system need you to run a DOS based
 serial app to configure parts of the system while using a custom
 Telnet/FTP/something IP Winblows app for other configs at the same time.
 Win2K is fairly inept at DOS stuff  Makes it interesting..

This may be of help in **some** cases:

Particularly in cases where a CLI communications program or terminal emulation 
is involved, I would be tempted to give kermit a try.

I have to dial into various vendor's servers for telnetting and/or 
transferring files.  Many of them only offer tech support for their own apps 
or hyperterminal.  I was motivated to try new methods because the transfers 
were exceeding the error limit fairly frequently.  I wasn't sure whether 
the problem was the software, the phone lines (rural area) or a combination 
of both.  The vendors and phone company, however, were sure it was someone 
else's problem.

I've found that kermit is at the base of many communication applications.  
After learning how to dial a modem in kermit, I was able to connect and 
conduct my business successfully in more than half the cases.  In all the 
cases where I am able to use kermit by itself, my transmissions have had few 
or no (none, zip, zero) errors.

On a side note, the online documentation states that you can run kermit over 
ssh using command line options.  Kermit appears to be quite extensive in 
abilities.  Once again, I find myself with much to learn.

Andrew Gould

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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-20 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:22:24 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:

 On a side note, the online documentation states that you can run kermit
 over ssh using command line options.  Kermit appears to be quite
 extensive in abilities.  Once again, I find myself with much to learn.
 
 Andrew Gould

I have run into kermit on a call information collecction system I
administer.  While I've been successful at getting the polling machines
kermit configs working, I really have very little knowledge of Kermit
itself.  Andrew is right it does appear to have extensive abilities though.
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One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-19 Thread James McDonald
Folks,

For those of you in an admin role you may sympathize with this. I just 
had to change the IP addresses on a series of radios linking the sites 
of the company I work at.

Because we only have windows I had to take a laptop up to the radio 
repeater site and use it to change each ip address. The problem was that 
windows (w2k) will allow you to change your ip address once but if you 
try it again it prompts for a reboot So in short each time I had to 
change my IP so I could connect to each radios subnet... I had to 
reboot g.

Now if I had linux on the laptop the job would have taken considerably 
less time because I wouldn't have had to reboot once... viv la 
revolution Linux is a better tool for admin than window imo.

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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-19 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:08:00 +1100 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Folks,
 
 For those of you in an admin role you may sympathize with this. I just 
 had to change the IP addresses on a series of radios linking the sites 
 of the company I work at.
 
 Because we only have windows I had to take a laptop up to the radio 
 repeater site and use it to change each ip address. The problem was that 
 windows (w2k) will allow you to change your ip address once but if you 
 try it again it prompts for a reboot So in short each time I had to 
 change my IP so I could connect to each radios subnet... I had to 
 reboot g.
 
 Now if I had linux on the laptop the job would have taken considerably 
 less time because I wouldn't have had to reboot once... viv la 
 revolution Linux is a better tool for admin than window imo.
 

Please clarify: you were maybe expecting something different from windows???

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worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.


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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-19 Thread Ken Moffat
James McDonald wrote:

 I had to reboot g.

Now if I had linux on the laptop


Why do you not have linux on that laptop?

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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-19 Thread Kurt Wall
Consuming 1.2K bytes, James McDonald blathered:

[...]

 Because we only have windows I had to take a laptop up to the radio 
 repeater site and use it to change each ip address. The problem was that 
 windows (w2k) will allow you to change your ip address once but if you 
 try it again it prompts for a reboot So in short each time I had to 
 change my IP so I could connect to each radios subnet... I had to 
 reboot g.

What a pain.

Kurt
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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-19 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 19:43 pm, Ken Moffat wrote:
 James McDonald wrote:
   I had to reboot g.
 
  Now if I had linux on the laptop

 Why do you not have linux on that laptop?


Or why not use a Knoppix CD  or even boot a floppy with Tom's RTBT?

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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-19 Thread Tim Wunder
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 7:08 pm, someone claiming to be James McDonald 
wrote:
 Folks,

 For those of you in an admin role you may sympathize with this. I just
 had to change the IP addresses on a series of radios linking the sites
 of the company I work at.

 Because we only have windows I had to take a laptop up to the radio
 repeater site and use it to change each ip address. The problem was that
 windows (w2k) will allow you to change your ip address once but if you
 try it again it prompts for a reboot So in short each time I had to

Can't you just tell it that no, you don't want to reboot? Haven't done it in a 
while, but I seem to remember that you don't really have to reboot, it's just 
that Winders wants you to.

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Re: One reason why I should have a Linux laptop

2003-11-19 Thread Keith Morse
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Ken Moffat wrote:

 James McDonald wrote:
 
   I had to reboot g.
 
  Now if I had linux on the laptop
 
 
 Why do you not have linux on that laptop?

Because the F'ing vendors of those devices only make their 
config/management tools able to run under windows and the bulk of your 
staff are thoroughly perplexed as to the nature and reason for a 
command line.


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