Re: If this doesn't exist it should! SSH over SSL

2003-09-15 Thread James McDonald
James McDonald wrote:

ISA Server checks not only what port but what protocol is being used to
connect to external services so shifting a ssh terminal or similar to an
open port such as 443 will fail because ISA server only wants to talk
https on 443.
 

Actually Let me rephrase the above because it's completely wrong.

I tried shutting down apache / https and moving sshd to 443 and from 
work connecting through the proxy using putty configured to use a http 
proxy it works very well

So in short if you have a msproxy and with strict nothing but known 
ports being let out then you can still get a terminal to your linux box 
only you will need to shut https down and shift sshd to 443.





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RE: If this doesn't exist it should! SSH over SSL

2003-09-11 Thread James McDonald
ISA Server checks not only what port but what protocol is being used to
connect to external services so shifting a ssh terminal or similar to an
open port such as 443 will fail because ISA server only wants to talk
https on 443.

So what I am talking about is having a webserver application that talks a
version of https and you would have a submit button in your browser to
send shell command and they would go over the wire as completely safe
html/https and then be translated by the webserver application as what
they are ... shell commands.


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Re: If this doesn't exist it should! SSH over SSL

2003-09-11 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:41:32 -0600
Myles Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This was seen on freshmeat.net yesterday (tuesday):
> 
> http://www.ericdaugherty.com/dev/soht/

Wow. I need something like that. We have a client in England behind an anal
retentive firewall. They are offering a long distance modem call that I
would have to pay. Maybe this will let me in to admin a system we have set
up. Thank you for the pointer. Now I need to figure out which is client and
which is server. Maybe each will be both.

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RE: If this doesn't exist it should! SSH over SSL

2003-09-10 Thread Wil McGilvery
I am not entirely sure I understand what you are asking.

The only thing I can think of is VNC using SSL. Thee is also an
advertised secure vnc viewer at
http://3sp.com/products/sshtools/sshtools.php, but this may be the same
as the mindterm application you don't wish to use.

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-Original Message-
From: James McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

>>If the following was true regarding a network
>>
>>myPC <--> ISA W2K Proxy <--> Router/Firewall <-Internet-> Linux/https
>>
>>And I wanted to create a connection over https to my apache linux
server
>>and then run a command line session to run shell commands/mutt/pebrot
etc
>>on my box Linux Box
>>
>>Does anyone know of any software that will do it?
>>
>>
>
>OpenVPN? I see that it now supports Windows. Then, make a virtual
private
>network between myPC and Linux/https. VPN provides a general solution.
>Setting a similar thing up is on my To Do list.
>  
>
My point is that I need it to be SSL so that I can traverse the proxy 
without it being on another port other than 443. VPN etc use ports other

than 443 and if you try to run on port 443 using another protocol.the 
proxy reports "Protocol  is not allowed on 
this port"

I don't have administrative control of the Proxy/Firewall and I know 
that http/ssl and http both are open but only by way of the proxy, ssh 
fails but I need the encryption of ssl.

I am trying to make a remote telnet style terminal of a web browser not 
in the mindterm java applet style but so that only key strokes and 
command out put are sent to and from the webserver via https and then 
executed on the webserver  in a text only type of transfer.


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Re: If this doesn't exist it should! SSH over SSL

2003-09-10 Thread Myles Green
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:54:35 +1000, James McDonald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> 
> >>If the following was true regarding a network
> >>
> >>myPC <--> ISA W2K Proxy <--> Router/Firewall <-Internet->
> >Linux/https>
> >>And I wanted to create a connection over https to my apache linux
> >server>and then run a command line session to run shell
> >commands/mutt/pebrot etc>on my box Linux Box
> >>
> >>Does anyone know of any software that will do it?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >OpenVPN? I see that it now supports Windows. Then, make a virtual
> >private network between myPC and Linux/https. VPN provides a general
> >solution. Setting a similar thing up is on my To Do list.
> >  
> >
> My point is that I need it to be SSL so that I can traverse the proxy 
> without it being on another port other than 443. VPN etc use ports
> other than 443 and if you try to run on port 443 using another
> protocol.the proxy reports "Protocol  is
> not allowed on this port"
> 
> I don't have administrative control of the Proxy/Firewall and I know 
> that http/ssl and http both are open but only by way of the proxy, ssh
> 
> fails but I need the encryption of ssl.
> 
> I am trying to make a remote telnet style terminal of a web browser
> not in the mindterm java applet style but so that only key strokes and
> 
> command out put are sent to and from the webserver via https and then 
> executed on the webserver  in a text only type of transfer.

This was seen on freshmeat.net yesterday (tuesday):

http://www.ericdaugherty.com/dev/soht/

SOHT (Socket over HTTP Tunneling) allows you to tunnel socket
connections through an HTTP proxy. Restrictive firewalls often prohibit
all outgoing trafic except for HTTP. This application allows you to
tunnel socket connections over the HTTP protocol. This application
consists of a server that serves as a proxy and a client which tunnels a
socket connection over an HTTP connection to the server. The current
release is written in Java, and a .NET client is under development.

HTH

Myles

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Re: If this doesn't exist it should! SSH over SSL

2003-09-10 Thread James McDonald
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

If the following was true regarding a network

myPC <--> ISA W2K Proxy <--> Router/Firewall <-Internet-> Linux/https

And I wanted to create a connection over https to my apache linux server
and then run a command line session to run shell commands/mutt/pebrot etc
on my box Linux Box
Does anyone know of any software that will do it?
   

OpenVPN? I see that it now supports Windows. Then, make a virtual private
network between myPC and Linux/https. VPN provides a general solution.
Setting a similar thing up is on my To Do list.
 

My point is that I need it to be SSL so that I can traverse the proxy 
without it being on another port other than 443. VPN etc use ports other 
than 443 and if you try to run on port 443 using another protocol.the 
proxy reports "Protocol  is not allowed on 
this port"

I don't have administrative control of the Proxy/Firewall and I know 
that http/ssl and http both are open but only by way of the proxy, ssh 
fails but I need the encryption of ssl.

I am trying to make a remote telnet style terminal of a web browser not 
in the mindterm java applet style but so that only key strokes and 
command out put are sent to and from the webserver via https and then 
executed on the webserver  in a text only type of transfer.

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Re: If this doesn't exist it should! SSH over SSL

2003-09-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:22:40 +1000 (EST)
"James McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If the following was true regarding a network
> 
> myPC <--> ISA W2K Proxy <--> Router/Firewall <-Internet-> Linux/https
> 
> And I wanted to create a connection over https to my apache linux server
> and then run a command line session to run shell commands/mutt/pebrot etc
> on my box Linux Box
> 
> Does anyone know of any software that will do it?

OpenVPN? I see that it now supports Windows. Then, make a virtual private
network between myPC and Linux/https. VPN provides a general solution.
Setting a similar thing up is on my To Do list.


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