Re: OT:Fw: Run Old Versions of Microsoft with Windows XP Pro!

2002-11-15 Thread David A. Bandel
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:39:05 +0100
begin  Zoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 At 12:09 13/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 Windows NT and Windows 98 are no longer preinstalled on PC's. Downgrade
 Rights provide companies that are not currently able to migrate to a
 more current operating system the ability to use the company's
 preferred OS until there is a more efficient time to migrate. When the
 company is ready to migrate to Windows XP Pro, there are no additional
 costs or licensing requirements.
 
 
 
 *** Ofcourse not, the licenses have allready been paied for. The W2k or 
 whatever other CD they will use and XP's that came with the PC. What is
 the gain here except a direct one for MS and some time bought for the
 company?
 
 In the mean time MS' user statistics show the enormous popularity of the
 
 new XP system... which the sheep have paied for but are not using.
 
 Great, makes you realy love the IT future seen by MS...
 

Not to mention, most new laptops built since XP don't have drivers for
Win2k, etc.  Tke this along with the We'll Break Your Apps announcement
and with no imagination at all you can see they'll force everyone onto XP
in no time.  Because apps will not run on anything but XP.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: OT:Fw: Run Old Versions of Microsoft with Windows XP Pro!

2002-11-15 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:42:13AM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote:
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:39:05 +0100
begin  Zoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 At 12:09 13/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 Windows NT and Windows 98 are no longer preinstalled on PC's. Downgrade
 Rights provide companies that are not currently able to migrate to a
 more current operating system the ability to use the company's
 preferred OS until there is a more efficient time to migrate. When the
 company is ready to migrate to Windows XP Pro, there are no additional
 costs or licensing requirements.

This is proving to be a major problem for companies who have
contracts with school systems requiring multi-year support, and
where there are strict budget restraints.

Another problem is that much of the ``educational'' software
doesn't run on XP in any case.

Bill
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Re: OT:Fw: Run Old Versions of Microsoft with Windows XP Pro!

2002-11-14 Thread Zoki
At 12:09 13/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Windows NT and Windows 98 are no longer preinstalled on PC's. Downgrade
Rights provide companies that are not currently able to migrate to a
more current operating system the ability to use the company's preferred
OS until there is a more efficient time to migrate. When the company is
ready to migrate to Windows XP Pro, there are no additional costs or
licensing requirements.




*** Ofcourse not, the licenses have allready been paied for. The W2k or 
whatever other CD they will use and XP's that came with the PC. What is the 
gain here except a direct one for MS and some time bought for the company?

In the mean time MS' user statistics show the enormous popularity of the 
new XP system... which the sheep have paied for but are not using.

Great, makes you realy love the IT future seen by MS...

Zoran.


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Re: OT:Fw: Run Old Versions of Microsoft with Windows XP Pro!

2002-11-13 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I thought just installing XP was an automatic downgrade G.

 Microsoft has something new -- downgrade rights
 What's next ?
 
 Chris Kassopulo
 
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Re: OT:Fw: Run Old Versions of Microsoft with Windows XP Pro!

2002-11-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:43:39PM -0600, Jack Berger wrote:
I've heard you can possibly damage your chip set by doing this.

Yup.  You need to get a new power supply that's compatible with
the newer smoke.dll.

Bill
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