Re: gentoo news
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:06:32 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 22:58 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Gentoo for PowerPC G5 now available Posted on 11 November 2003 by pvdabeel We're proud to announce the availability of the Gentoo for PowerPC G5 32-bit LiveCD. ISOs are now available on our main OSU mirror. There he goes again...:-) old hackers never die, they just run gentoo. :-) -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
On Friday 14 November 2003 07:03 am, Collins Richey wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:06:32 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 22:58 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Gentoo for PowerPC G5 now available Posted on 11 November 2003 by pvdabeel We're proud to announce the availability of the Gentoo for PowerPC G5 32-bit LiveCD. ISOs are now available on our main OSU mirror. There he goes again...:-) old hackers never die, they just run gentoo. :-) 'Do not go gentoo into that night!' ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:03:56 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:06:32 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 22:58 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Gentoo for PowerPC G5 now available Posted on 11 November 2003 by pvdabeel We're proud to announce the availability of the Gentoo for PowerPC G5 32-bit LiveCD. ISOs are now available on our main OSU mirror. There he goes again...:-) old hackers never die, they just run gentoo. :-) Here here. But even my daughter gets a kick out of the results of emerge tuxmathscrabble -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Gentoo for PowerPC G5 now available Posted on 11 November 2003 by pvdabeel We're proud to announce the availability of the Gentoo for PowerPC G5 32-bit LiveCD. ISOs are now available on our main OSU mirror. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
The new G5s from Apple I'd love to have one -even with OS X on it. I understand they are awesome. My daughter's Powerbook G4 made me realize how good Apple stuff is! Collins Richey wrote: Gentoo for PowerPC G5 now available Posted on 11 November 2003 by pvdabeel We're proud to announce the availability of the Gentoo for PowerPC G5 32-bit LiveCD. ISOs are now available on our main OSU mirror. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:46:09 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo will be joining the ranks of the boxed set of cd's distros on August 5, 2003. For those of you who don't have DSL/Cable or a CD burner, this will be your opportunity to avoid the slow downloads and, if you choose, much of the delays due to compiles that are associated with a gentoo install. Details at http://www.gentoo.org/. I've been putting off downloading it - now this I like! But I have one question. My system is an Athlon 1-Ghz machine. Which version of Gentoo would be appropriate? -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:58:27 -0500 Alan Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:46:09 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo will be joining the ranks of the boxed set of cd's distros on August 5, 2003. I've been putting off downloading it - now this I like! But I have one question. My system is an Athlon 1-Ghz machine. Which version of Gentoo would be appropriate? The Athlon is an I686 machine. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
gentoo news
Gentoo will be joining the ranks of the boxed set of cd's distros on August 5, 2003. For those of you who don't have DSL/Cable or a CD burner, this will be your opportunity to avoid the slow downloads and, if you choose, much of the delays due to compiles that are associated with a gentoo install. Details at http://www.gentoo.org/. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Latest gentoo news (MAC)
Not much help to me, since I don't have any MAC gear, but looks fascinating. Gentoo now offers a LiveCD that runs on MAC OSX and utilizes Mac-on-Linux. www.gentoo.org -- Collins Richey - Denver Area gentoo stable - ext3 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Latest gentoo news (MAC)
On 6/8/03 13:46, Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not much help to me, since I don't have any MAC gear, but looks fascinating. Gentoo now offers a LiveCD that runs on MAC OSX and utilizes Mac-on-Linux. www.gentoo.org They are also working on bringing Portage to the OSX platform. I tried the Live CD it was ok but it does not setup networking or the X server. I wish it were more like Knoppix but its good for first release. Yellow Dog is still the best for PPC Linux in my opinion. -- Ray Russell Mac OS X 10.2.6 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Latest gentoo news (MAC)
On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 19:33:31 -0400 Raymond Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --snip-- They are also working on bringing Portage to the OSX platform. I tried the Live CD it was ok but it does not setup networking or the X server. I wish it were more like Knoppix but its good for first release. Yellow Dog is still the best for PPC Linux in my opinion. Gentoo won't drag Xfree off the portage server, unless you want it. As for networking, did you happen to visit gentoo.org and follow the associated install instructions? Works for me... There may even be a mac in my future... running Gentoo ofcourse. Would you care to post your bogomip number off the Mac box running yellowdog? I'd like to compare it to what I'm gettig off my XP2000+... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:47pm up 152 days, 21 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Latest gentoo news (MAC)
On 6/8/03 19:59, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are also working on bringing Portage to the OSX platform. I tried the Live CD it was ok but it does not setup networking or the X server. I wish it were more like Knoppix but its good for first release. Yellow Dog is still the best for PPC Linux in my opinion. Gentoo won't drag Xfree off the portage server, unless you want it. As for networking, did you happen to visit gentoo.org and follow the associated install instructions? Works for me... There may even be a mac in my future... running Gentoo ofcourse. Would you care to post your bogomip number off the Mac box running yellowdog? I'd like to compare it to what I'm gettig off my XP2000+... Actually X is on the CD its simple to configure it but it would have been nice to have it setup right off the bat. I know my way around Linux so it was no problem for me to get the X server and the network up. My Yellow Dog box is lowly 7100/80 I doubt the bogomips are any where near the Athlon XP2000+. Currently the Mac platform has been hampered by Motorola's PowerPC road map. Next month new machines based on IBM's Power4 with Altivec should start shipping. My other two machines are lowly G3 based machines one is a 350 MHz iMac and the other is a 700 MHz iBook. Both of these machines run OSX 10.2.6. I ran the Gentoo Live CD on the iBook with no problems. I don't think Linux will be able to replace OSX on these machines for me, I will leave Linux on the 7100 and my x86 machines. -- Ray Russell Mac OS X 10.2.6 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo news brief
On Fri, 10 May 2002 19:18:08 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gentoo cd's are now available from the following sites: http://www.distrowatch.com/top.php http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070010805 and also at: http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/ -- Chris Kassopulo _/\_ Linux User #199893 _/\_ Slackware ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
gentoo news brief
gentoo has now made the list of the top ten distros according to http://www.distrowatch.com/top.php. This has resulted in cratering the gentoo rsync server which has now been extended by several mirrors to share the load. gentoo cd's are now available from the following sites: http://www.distrowatch.com/top.php http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070010805 All the news at http://www.gentoo.org/ In case you haven't looked in the past month, there is now a very active forum (also several language choices) in addition to the mailing lists. Pretty soon they'll need to change the gentoo logo to a pair of tail lights fading into the distance. grin -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.19+(ext3) xfce-sylpheed-mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gentoo news
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Great news - gentoo is now available from cheapbytes. I just put gentoo on my laptop. I compiled the everything into the kernel and Gentoo is *not* bring up eth0 on boot. I have to run 'cardmgr -f' manually. ideas collins? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/o/registry/48D11KZ4BPBQ printk(Penguin |d is stuck in the bottle.\n, i); 2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/smp.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8yrXDSrrWWknCnMIRAkpPAJ0U1ejxE/oyOiQH52Q3aY0OJ19UAgCfdKl7 xKlCBAoyGhQ/xK1AG9rnbAU= =hYVa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gentoo news
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:29:23 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Great news - gentoo is now available from cheapbytes. I just put gentoo on my laptop. I compiled the everything into the kernel and Gentoo is *not* bring up eth0 on boot. I have to run 'cardmgr -f' manually. ideas collins? Search the archives at the following url (bookmark this one, as far as I know it's not linked anywhere on the gentoo site. http://fireserver.ath.cx/gentoo/search/ Also go to the Forum site linked from the gentoo home page. There's been a lot of activity about laptops, cardmgr, etc., but I'm a desktop user so I can't help you much Good luck, -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.1a) 2.4.19pre - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gentoo news
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:29:23 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Great news - gentoo is now available from cheapbytes. I just put gentoo on my laptop. I compiled the everything into the kernel and Gentoo is *not* bring up eth0 on boot. I have to run 'cardmgr -f' manually. ideas collins? After doing a little reading, have you done the following? rc-update add pcmcia default See note in /etc/init.d/net.eth0 -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.1a) 2.4.19pre - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
gentoo news
Great news - gentoo is now available from cheapbytes. You folks with slow internet connections now have one less excuse preventing you from trying it out. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.1a) 2.4.19pre - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gentoo news OT
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:33:56 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 07, Collins managed to emit: All is well in gentoo land (for me at least). [snip] Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? What is WWTLRD?, pray tell? Anything like WWJD? What would the lone ranger do? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.0) 2.4.19pre - kde3 + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gentoo news OT
Scribbling feverishly on April 07, Collins managed to emit: On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:33:56 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is WWTLRD?, pray tell? Anything like WWJD? What would the lone ranger do? Gotcha. thanks. Kurt -- Slow day. Practice crawling. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Gentoo news
All is well in gentoo land (for me at least). 1) As you may know, gentoo has released the 1.0 version (after a year or more of hard work). The good news for faithful lackeys like me (rc6-15 level) is that no upgrade is required. All you need to do is follow a few simple instructions to upgrade to the latest portage, and there is a followon script to update the list of installed packages to be analyzed when you issue emerge update world (update any packages that have newer versions). 2) I managed to gimp something royally in the update process and destroyed portage (the rest of the system was running ok). Never fear, there is an emergency package on the gentoo cvs site to rebuild portage. 3) The documentation is improving. The new installation instructions are quite accurate. I haven't actually installed the beast again, but you now have two choices - 1) put up a fairly complete set of binary packages or 2) put up a minimal system and emerge from sources as in the past. Still no orderable CDs, yet. 4) The new portage guide is quite usable, and it is being updated continually. A lot of the details you had to dig out of the archives in the past are now easily found. 5) The kde3 release was superb for me, since I've never tinkered with any of the beta releases. Those who already had a beta kde3 experienced considerable difficulty. Everything, including sound!!!, is working as advertized. I've already blown away kde2. I'm listening to The Chieftains as I type. The only problem is, the volume delivered is not very loud. I did discover that the CD Player will only work with /dev/sr0 (even though /dev/cdrom and /dev/sg0 are linked to the same underlying scsi device.) 6) The noise level is up on the gentoo-users list, because lots of newbies are pouring in and lots of folks are trying all those strange and wonderful things that bring tears to your eyes on any distro - laptops, all the flavors of DSL, raid setups, LVM, gnome beta stuff, PPP and modems, printers, etc. 7) I just completed making the microsoft tt-fonts available to X, and now kde3 is a little more readable. 8) I may experiment with FreeBSD again one of these days, and I may return to the xfce environment, but I won't be experimenting with any other linux releases. This one is solid gold!!! If I ever get around to putting a scanner and a color printer on this system, I might even be able to convince the rest of the family to give it a whirl. 9) It all works, baby. Enjoy, -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.0) 2.4.19pre - kde3 + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gentoo news
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:26:11 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All is well in gentoo land (for me at least). 1) As you may know, gentoo has released the 1.0 version (after a year or more of hard work). The good news for faithful lackeys like me (rc6-15 level) is that no upgrade is required. All you need to do is follow a few simple instructions to upgrade to the latest portage, and there is a followon script to update the list of installed packages to be analyzed when you issue emerge update world (update any packages that have newer versions). 2) I managed to gimp something royally in the update process and destroyed portage (the rest of the system was running ok). Never fear, there is an emergency package on the gentoo cvs site to rebuild portage. 3) The documentation is improving. The new installation instructions are quite accurate. I haven't actually installed the beast again, but you now have two choices - 1) put up a fairly complete set of binary packages or 2) put up a minimal system and emerge from sources as in the past. Still no orderable CDs, yet. 4) The new portage guide is quite usable, and it is being updated continually. A lot of the details you had to dig out of the archives in the past are now easily found. 5) The kde3 release was superb for me, since I've never tinkered with any of the beta releases. Those who already had a beta kde3 experienced considerable difficulty. Everything, including sound!!!, is working as advertized. I've already blown away kde2. I'm listening to The Chieftains as I type. The only problem is, the volume delivered is not very loud. I did discover that the CD Player will only work with /dev/sr0 (even though /dev/cdrom and /dev/sg0 are linked to the same underlying scsi device.) 6) The noise level is up on the gentoo-users list, because lots of newbies are pouring in and lots of folks are trying all those strange and wonderful things that bring tears to your eyes on any distro - laptops, all the flavors of DSL, raid setups, LVM, gnome beta stuff, PPP and modems, printers, etc. 7) I just completed making the microsoft tt-fonts available to X, and now kde3 is a little more readable. 8) I may experiment with FreeBSD again one of these days, and I may return to the xfce environment, but I won't be experimenting with any other linux releases. This one is solid gold!!! If I ever get around to putting a scanner and a color printer on this system, I might even be able to convince the rest of the family to give it a whirl. 9) It all works, baby. Enjoy, -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.0) 2.4.19pre - kde3 + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Collins I have a compac armada laptop coming with 32 meg mem. Will gentoo run under this distro with xfce? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gentoo news
[ snips ] On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:20:57 -0500 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:26:11 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All is well in gentoo land (for me at least). Collins I have a compac armada laptop coming with 32 meg mem. Will gentoo run under this distro with xfce? I would imagine so, but anything pmcia seems to need a lot of tinkering on any linux distro. I hope the 32Meg was a joke (?). Bump it to 256Meg, if possible. Join the gentoo-users list and/or check the archives. There are a lot of laptop users, but some of them have encountered grief in getting to the promissed land. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.0) 2.4.19pre - kde3 + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gentoo news
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:08:20 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snips ] On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:20:57 -0500 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:26:11 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All is well in gentoo land (for me at least). Collins I have a compac armada laptop coming with 32 meg mem. Will gentoo run under this distro with xfce? I would imagine so, but anything pmcia seems to need a lot of tinkering on any linux distro. I hope the 32Meg was a joke (?). Bump it to 256Meg, if possible. Join the gentoo-users list and/or check the archives. There are a lot of laptop users, but some of them have encountered grief in getting to the promissed land. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15(1.0) 2.4.19pre - kde3 + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Collins It is an older laptop, i think it has a max of 40 meg. In a short time I will get a refurb or a new one, if i am lucky next month, as usual it depends on my wife bitting into it. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gentoo news and ramblings
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:53:26 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't sent out any gentoo propaganda in a while, so here goes. A few after thoughts: 1) Boy did I leave the typos in that one! Those guys who complained about one typo in the elx installer will send this directly to the plonk file grin 2) gentoo is still officially billed as a distro for sysadmins. Nevertheless, a lot of sheer newbies are trying it lately, mostly with success. If you have been lurking on this list for a while, know how to partition a disk, and know how to add a user to your system and change your password (or at least how to read the man files, since I can never remember that trick very long), you can do this, too. 3) I'm currently using about 1.5 Gig out of a 5 Gig partition, and I have gnome, kde, and OpenOffice, Netscape, and Mozilla installed (all big hitters for space), so I have lots of room to grow. gentoo leaves the source (.tbz files) for all installs onboard, but you can remove them manually, as I have done. I would recommend 3-4 Gig for your install. Enjoy, -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15 2.4.17 - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla + oo641C ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gentoo news and ramblings
On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:55:19 -0500 Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 15 March 2002 11:34 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: Collins Nice job, lots of good stuff. I love this xfce, and things made by kde even work better. Sooner or later I will get around to building a desceant IDE system for c++ java python scripts. In the process of some lower level stuff now. But this cillege degree crap is cramping my real love, software development my wife. cheers Do they teach you to spell in cillegeg I thank I fayulled that kourse g -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15 2.4.17 - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
gentoo news and ramblings
Well, I haven't sent out any gentoo propaganda in a while, so here goes. When I rebuilt my PC a couple of months ago (gave the wife my older, slower PC), I put up my favorites - FreeBSD, elx linux, and gentoo. I had a few problems with FreeBSD that I wasn't interested in pursuing, so elx became my day-to-day system. As in the past, elx installed without a hitch, but it is slightly slower than the average distro (totally subjective). With gentoo, I encountered nothing that I couldn't find a solution for, and I now have every piec of hardware and software that I'm interested in working flawlessly, so maybe others would be interested. gentoo has blossomed since the first of the year (daily traffic on the gentoo-users group is approaching unmanageable proportions). gentoo still intends, I believe, to release its 1.0 version sometime this month. Here are my results: 1) The install from ISO image burned to a CD works exactly like the instructions on the gentoo web site. The only wrinkle that took was related to tne NICs in my PC. I have two of them, but only one in use. The gentoo installer would not recognize the NIC attached to my lan as eth0; it was recognized as eth1. (Both cards are serviced by Tulip.) Fortunately, I had my favorite config availabel, because you need to build your own kernel. In the final network setup of the install, I selected dhscp and eth1 to be activated. After reboot and considerable weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, I discovered that the regular linux kernel I had installed and the init scripts would only recognize the card as eth0!!! 2) Once I got the NIC working, it took a boring (everything worked) day and a half of compiles to get KDE 2.2.2, enough gnome stuff and mozilla for galeon, xfce, sylpheed, cups and gimp-print up and going. If I had it to do over, I would omit the gnome stuff and just use Mozilla which has 99% of what I like in galeon. 3) gentoo uses devfs, so you need to do a little bit of configuration work to get sound working for normal users and CDRW using ide-scsi. gentoo has the devfsd.conf file well documented with the appropriate lines to uncomment and tweak, but it took me a few days uf strugling to make them work. The key to it is this: if you modify/add items in the devfsd.conf, you need to delete any /dev/xxx entries related to the changes before shutting down. Once I did that, everything was copacetic. 4) cups worked for my printer (laserjet) right out of the starting gate. Audio sounds worked as sonn as I brought up a mixer. The concept of leaving the audio volume at zero until you mix it is the dumbest thing I've encountered in linux land, but that's certainly not a gentoo problem. cdrecord -scanbus works, so I presume my CDRW will work when I need it. I've adjusted /etc/group and /etc/fstab settings so that I can use the xfce built-in floppy and CD mount functions. I've installed aterm (lower overhead than xterm) and my preferred color settings. I've also loaded OpenOffice 641C, and it is working well. That's about it hardware and software wise. 5) Just personal evaluation (no proof), but everything seems to work quicker than on elx. 6) Even though I installed only a month or two ago, there are several changes waiting for the baselayout (init scripts, etc.). I'm not about to try this until I have cloned the system for backup. The one glaring flaw in the gentoo developer group (I've complained there) is that they like to make supposedly insignificant changes to the init scripts without testing them!!! Some of these changes are not so insignificant, and then you get oops, I've fixed that now. 7) portage and its tools have improved considerably, although they did manage (again) to break portage a few days ago. Their concept of a freeze to prepare for release 1.0 seems to be a little different than mine. There are a lot of questions about portage, and the documentation and tools are scattered about the web site; you have to do a little bit of digging in the archives. 8) On the user group, most of the reported problems are newbie stuff (didn't do enough RTFM) and install for laptops (the pmcia blues just like on every other distro) which is a hit or miss proposition. Also a fair amount of DSL and PPPD blues, which is also quite familiar. 9) gentoo is fairly attentive to security exposures, but there's no finally version of an update process yet. 10) Summary: it's good enough for me. Grade B+ at least. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? Gentoo_rc6-15 2.4.17 - xfce + sylpheed + mozilla +OO641C ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
