delete email from server
I'm setting up a new cobalt box. I have it working great except for leaving email on the server. I have unchecked the delete from server box in Kmail and it is not deleted but Kmail keeps DL'ing the same messages. Is this Kmails fault or is it something I need to configure in sendmail? I saw nothing in man about this. -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cp950
Mike, is your cp950 from 2.4 kernel? I used the command you taught me to compilet eit, and got the attached file. cc1: Invalid option `preferred-stack-boundary=2' nls_cp950.c:16: parse error before `c2u_A1' nls_cp950.c:16: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A1' nls_cp950.c:50: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:52: parse error before `c2u_A2' nls_cp950.c:52: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A2' nls_cp950.c:86: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:88: parse error before `c2u_A3' nls_cp950.c:88: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A3' nls_cp950.c:122: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:124: parse error before `c2u_A4' nls_cp950.c:124: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A4' nls_cp950.c:158: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:160: parse error before `c2u_A5' nls_cp950.c:160: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A5' nls_cp950.c:194: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:196: parse error before `c2u_A6' nls_cp950.c:196: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A6' nls_cp950.c:230: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:232: parse error before `c2u_A7' nls_cp950.c:232: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A7' nls_cp950.c:266: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:268: parse error before `c2u_A8' nls_cp950.c:268: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A8' nls_cp950.c:302: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:304: parse error before `c2u_A9' nls_cp950.c:304: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_A9' nls_cp950.c:338: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:340: parse error before `c2u_AA' nls_cp950.c:340: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_AA' nls_cp950.c:374: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:376: parse error before `c2u_AB' nls_cp950.c:376: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_AB' nls_cp950.c:410: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:412: parse error before `c2u_AC' nls_cp950.c:412: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_AC' nls_cp950.c:446: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:448: parse error before `c2u_AD' nls_cp950.c:448: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_AD' nls_cp950.c:482: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:484: parse error before `c2u_AE' nls_cp950.c:484: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_AE' nls_cp950.c:518: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:520: parse error before `c2u_AF' nls_cp950.c:520: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_AF' nls_cp950.c:554: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:556: parse error before `c2u_B0' nls_cp950.c:556: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B0' nls_cp950.c:590: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:592: parse error before `c2u_B1' nls_cp950.c:592: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B1' nls_cp950.c:626: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:628: parse error before `c2u_B2' nls_cp950.c:628: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B2' nls_cp950.c:662: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:664: parse error before `c2u_B3' nls_cp950.c:664: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B3' nls_cp950.c:698: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:700: parse error before `c2u_B4' nls_cp950.c:700: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B4' nls_cp950.c:734: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:736: parse error before `c2u_B5' nls_cp950.c:736: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B5' nls_cp950.c:770: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:772: parse error before `c2u_B6' nls_cp950.c:772: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B6' nls_cp950.c:806: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:808: parse error before `c2u_B7' nls_cp950.c:808: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B7' nls_cp950.c:842: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:844: parse error before `c2u_B8' nls_cp950.c:844: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B8' nls_cp950.c:878: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:880: parse error before `c2u_B9' nls_cp950.c:880: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `c2u_B9' nls_cp950.c:914: warning: data definition has no type or storage class nls_cp950.c:916: parse error before
Re: [SLE] Where does tcsh keep it's history file?
At 03:19 AM 8/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: Anyone know what the tcsh equivalent is for bash_history? And where it's stored. Ah, never mind, it's ~/.history Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cp950 and HUGE APOLOGY
On Thursday 16 August 2001 12:43, Chang wrote: Thank you for the file. IS it from caldera or home-made? It has been with me since at least kernel 2.4.4, it must have come at that time, from a kernel.org I did. PS I am REALLY sorry folks for that terrible blunder, there is NO WAY I would even dream of sending 10k to a list, let alone 1,000k ! Like all things when the wheels start falling off it becomes a comedy of errors, I alerted Doug, I sent an ICQ in addition, AND the mailer informed us both that it was indeed blocked. we *thought* that was the end of it. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
More Steps Aug 16
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MS gets a security clue?
Seems that our friends in Redmond have finally started taking steps to do the right thing when it comes to security. They've put up an online 'scan your machine for holes' tool/page. If you have an NT/2000 machine, I highly recommend that you go bookmark http://www.microsoft.com/technet/mpsa/start.asp so that you can start using the Microsoft Personal Security Advisor -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
{RFC} - new service on Linux.nf in answer to MPSA
What does everyone think of me putting up a page on linux.nf that anyone can come to and have their system scanned for known security exploits? I'm thinking the user would surf over to say http://linux.nf/scanme/ and the page would display a quick little disclaimer stating what it's going to do, that you should be the owener of the machine being scanned, and that by clicking the 'scan me' button you agree to release us from liability... when they click the button, it launches a Nessus scan, puts up a 'please wait while you are scanned' page, and then when the nessus scan completes, it pops up a page with the results of the scan. of course, it would scan the ip of the machine viewing the page so that the user couldn't put in somebody else's ip (I know, i know... this wouldn't work for machines behind a proxy).. thoughts? -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ He's so sadistic he put quicksand in the litter box... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Can send with KMail
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:59:41 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Mike, No go, didn't work Keith B. = Try: smtp.vww.com = OK, try smtp.mail.vww.com Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Can send with KMail
Hello All, I am trying to use my ISP's mail service with KMail. I have configured all the right stuff: pop3 = mail.bww.com. port 110 - can recieve emails from my ISP without problems smtp = mail.vww.com port 25 - cannot send any email to others Get this error every time. Sending failed A SMTP error occurred Command: RCPT Response: 501. This system is not configured to relay mail from kbboykin@ bww.com to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snips] Try looking in your outbox for any unsent mail and delete it. I had this problem when trying to send mail to multiple recipients using kmail until I figured out what it's address separating delimiter was. Once I deleted the offending mail from the outbox it was A-OK. --Tom Wilson ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: {RFC} - new service on Linux.nf in answer to MPSA
On Thursday 16 August 2001 08:04 am, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: What does everyone think of me putting up a page on linux.nf that anyone can come to and have their system scanned for known security exploits? I'm thinking the user would surf over to say http://linux.nf/scanme/ and the page would display a quick little disclaimer stating what it's going to do, that you should be the owener of the machine being scanned, and that by clicking the 'scan me' button you agree to release us from liability... when they click the button, it launches a Nessus scan, puts up a 'please wait while you are scanned' page, and then when the nessus scan completes, it pops up a page with the results of the scan. of course, it would scan the ip of the machine viewing the page so that the user couldn't put in somebody else's ip (I know, i know... this wouldn't work for machines behind a proxy).. thoughts? Are you aware of www.vulnerabilities.com ? It will do an nmap or nessus scan. Quite good. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 08/16/01 08:54 + ++ If a man says something in the forest and there is no woman there, is he still wrong? ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: delete email from server
Neither. I use KMail all the time. I'm finding it more pretty than useful, however, and am looking for a good IMAP client. I've been playing with Althea lately but have heard of one from the Kompany called Aethera (or something like that), which is supposed to include some PIM stuff as well. I have times when KMail seems to forget that it's seen ANY messages and red/l's again. This doesn't happen all the time, and I've found months in between. Unfortunately with this option, KMail forgot to include the delete from server when deleted from mail option, so I'm finding myself in a situation of d'ling 480mb this time. I'm pretty frusterated. When mentioning this option to the KMail team, I was told that it wasn't going to happen. I don't believe I heard a response to the IMAP request. Matt Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: linux-users-admiSubject: Re: delete email from server [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/16/01 09:13 AM Please respond to linux-users Quoting Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm setting up a new cobalt box. I have it working great except for leaving email on the server. I have unchecked the delete from server box in Kmail and it is not deleted but Kmail keeps DL'ing the same messages. Is this Kmails fault or is it something I need to configure in sendmail? I saw nothing in man about this. I know some other mail agents have Leave on server and also a Download only new messages option as well. I would guess that either there is another option you need to check to have it only grab mail it hasn't already d/l'ed, or Kmail (which I am neither a fan nor user of) is too simple to have that option. -- Linux SxS [http://members.home.net/linuxsteps/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: {RFC} - new service on Linux.nf in answer to MPSA
Sounds good to me. Douglas J. Hunley wrote: What does everyone think of me putting up a page on linux.nf that anyone can come to and have their system scanned for known security exploits? I'm thinking the user would surf over to say http://linux.nf/scanme/ and the page would display a quick little disclaimer stating what it's going to do, that you should be the owener of the machine being scanned, and that by clicking the 'scan me' button you agree to release us from liability... when they click the button, it launches a Nessus scan, puts up a 'please wait while you are scanned' page, and then when the nessus scan completes, it pops up a page with the results of the scan. of course, it would scan the ip of the machine viewing the page so that the user couldn't put in somebody else's ip (I know, i know... this wouldn't work for machines behind a proxy).. thoughts? -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ He's so sadistic he put quicksand in the litter box... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: delete email from server
On Thursday 16 August 2001 07:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither. I use KMail all the time. I'm finding it more pretty than useful, however, and am looking for a good IMAP client. I've been playing with Althea lately but have heard of one from the Kompany called Aethera (or something like that), which is supposed to include some PIM stuff as well. Aethera from the Kompany has been in heavy beta for a very long time and is still very much functionless, IMO. It certainly 'looks' purdy, though. I have times when KMail seems to forget that it's seen ANY messages and red/l's again. This doesn't happen all the time, and I've found months in between. Unfortunately with this option, KMail forgot to include the delete from server when deleted from mail option, so I'm finding myself in a situation of d'ling 480mb this time. I'm pretty frusterated. When mentioning this option to the KMail team, I was told that it wasn't going to happen. I don't believe I heard a response to the IMAP request. This happens to me occasionally, but seems to be only when I have left kmail running for days, like over the weekend or such. I'm also running Sylpheed alongside and Sylpheed seems to run rather nicely, and it claims to have IMAP. http://sylpheed.good-day.net -- alt.os.linux.caldera FAQ Linux Step-by-Step guides http://www.ujoint.org The Universal Joint - Connecting Unix, Linux, and that other OS Operated by Linux user #201684 9:40am up 3 days, 1:49, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.13, 0.05 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.4.8 kernel is evil!
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT), Net Llama wrote: Anyone else tried out 2.4.8 yet? I installed it on two of my boxes on Monday, and have had nothing but grief ever since. Yes it is. There are several bugs that have been published and probably a few that have not. There is a 2.4.9pre1 that fixes some. I'd wait on 2.4.9 stable version at the very least, or go back to 2.4.7 stayler ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: delete email from server
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:57:57 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Neither. I use KMail all the time. I'm finding it more pretty than useful, however, and am looking for a good IMAP client. I've been playing with Althea lately but have heard of one from the Kompany called Aethera (or something like that), which is supposed to include some PIM stuff as well. = Matt, Try sylpheed. It's at www.good-day.net Does imap, pop, and allows mulitple smtp accounts for outgoing. Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: {RFC} - new service on Linux.nf in answer to MPSA
www.vulnerabilities.org On Thursday 16 August 2001 07:55, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2001 08:04 am, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: What does everyone think of me putting up a page on linux.nf that anyone can come to and have their system scanned for known security exploits? I'm thinking the user would surf over to say http://linux.nf/scanme/ and the page would display a quick little disclaimer stating what it's going to do, that you should be the owener of the machine being scanned, and that by clicking the 'scan me' button you agree to release us from liability... when they click the button, it launches a Nessus scan, puts up a 'please wait while you are scanned' page, and then when the nessus scan completes, it pops up a page with the results of the scan. of course, it would scan the ip of the machine viewing the page so that the user couldn't put in somebody else's ip (I know, i know... this wouldn't work for machines behind a proxy).. thoughts? Are you aware of www.vulnerabilities.com ? It will do an nmap or nessus scan. Quite good. -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.4.8 kernel is evil!
On Thursday 16 August 2001 09:18 am, Shawn Tayler wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT), Net Llama wrote: Anyone else tried out 2.4.8 yet? I installed it on two of my boxes on Monday, and have had nothing but grief ever since. Yes it is. There are several bugs that have been published and probably a few that have not. There is a 2.4.9pre1 that fixes some. I'd wait on 2.4.9 stable version at the very least, or go back to 2.4.7 stayler Runs just fine here.. once I eliminated the emul401.. from the compile. No problems whatever. ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 08/16/01 11:24 + ++ Brought to you by the letters O and S and the number 2 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: delete email from server
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:57:57 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither. I use KMail all the time. I'm finding it more pretty than useful, however, and am looking for a good IMAP client. Sylpheed has been putting a lot of work into IMAP4. Much of the release notes for new versions is IMAP stuff. I can't test it since I only have a POP account. Give it a try. It's rock solid for POP accounts. -- Collins Richey Denver Area Gentoo_rc5 XFCE ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How can I wipe the printer jobs?
If lpq doesn't show any hung job, try: lpq -a or lpq -a -s This shows the status of all printers in your printcap file. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Picture Problem
Burns, As has happened before, I received the picture at home as text gibberish, and if I were to bother to re-read some manuals that I first ran into about 20 years ago I'd remember how to decode that into a picture again. Back in the early trumpet winsock days, we used to use UUENCODE and UUDECODE to code and decode images from gibberish. I'll be buggered if I can figure out how to do it with all this new fangled stuff we have now, though. Sorry. Simple. Save the email to a file, then (from a console) enter: uudecode filename uudecode will put the picture (or any encoded file) into the properly named file for the attachment *as it was added*. It really is simple, I was just exercising my laziness. However, I've since realized that putting an automatic uudecode into Kmail would open a back door almost as large as M$ likes to put into their *secure* software. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass SingerSailor and Singer of Chanties | | Left Handed and In My Right Mind | | If you want to know what God thinks about money, just | | look at the people He gives it to. -- Old Irish Saying | +--+ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MS gets a security clue?
Microsoft Personal Security Advisor requires Internet Explorer version 5.0 or greater. --- Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems that our friends in Redmond have finally started taking steps to do the right thing when it comes to security. They've put up an online 'scan your machine for holes' tool/page. If you have an NT/2000 machine, I highly recommend that you go bookmark http://www.microsoft.com/technet/mpsa/start.asp so that you can start using the Microsoft Personal Security Advisor -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/ Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
icewm
Spent some time tonight playing with icewm. First impression :- I like it. Loads faster than KDE. Anybody has experience and comments ? TIA Auyeung
Re: icewm
--- Auyeung at Technet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spent some time tonight playing with icewm. First impression :- I like it. Loads faster than KDE. Anybody has experience and comments ? Literally any other window manager in existence loads faster than KDE, so that is a very poor comparison. I've tried IceWM in the past. Its ok, but still resembled windoze a bit more than i'd like. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MS gets a security clue?
On Thursday 16 August 2001 11:05, Net Llama wrote: Microsoft Personal Security Advisor requires Internet Explorer version 5.0 or greater. obviously they first need to create a security flaw in order to get into your system in the first place. #! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: icewm
It's allright, I use it along with TKdesk on an old debian box. On Thursday 16 August 2001 12:30, Auyeung at Technet wrote: Spent some time tonight playing with icewm. First impression :- I like it. Loads faster than KDE. Anybody has experience and comments ? TIA Auyeung Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: suggestion for step-by-step siteot
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:02:04 +1130 Hello Mike from Lourens: On Wednesday 15 August 2001 08:53, Lourens Steenkamp wrote: On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:31:53 +1130 Lourens replied to Mike: Otherwise, no, there's only 25 hours in each day. 25?? A lecturer of mine used to say: If 24hrs a day is not enough, you just have to learn to work at night IBM actually have a 36 hour global day. 36 hours work are done in any 24 hour period from the point of reference. They divide the world up into 4 x 9 hour segments and as one programming shift is going home in Baton Rouge, the next group is taking over the same project in Stockholm followed by those in Delhi (actually Agra) and so on. The people in Baton Rouge effectively see 36 hours work done from the time they come in each morning. Thanks for that interesting info. This would have brought a grin (at least) to the face of Albert ... *** If you find a solution and become attached to it, the solution may become your next problem. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional Registered Linux User Lourens Steenkamp Republic of South Africa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: {RFC} - new service on Linux.nf in answer to MPSA
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:04:40 -0400 Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does everyone think of me putting up a page on linux.nf that anyone can come to and have their system scanned for known security exploits? ---snip--- I would love it! Coming from you, it'd be soemthing I could trust to be accurate. When are you going to do it? :') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 5:20pm up 4 days, 1:34, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 0.49, 0.18 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Re: Can send with KMail
That didn't work either. I believe I need authentication which does not work under(or is not used with) KMail. I can relay from nutscrape, just can't do it with KMail. Regards, Keith B. Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:59:41 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: Mike, No go, didn't work Keith B. = Try: smtp.vww.com = OK, try smtp.mail.vww.com Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: icewm
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:30:19 +0800 Auyeung at Technet [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: AT Spent some time tonight playing with icewm. First impression :- I like AT it. Loads faster than KDE. Anybody has experience and comments ? == I've toyed with it briefly in my search for a simple, fast, lightweight wm. Reminded me more of win9x than anything else I've played with. I've finally settled on BlackBox (for about a year now). It might be the lightest, fastest of them all. Understated elegance ;-) Just my US$0.02, YMMV, Mike -- Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. -- Kaiser Wilhelm ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: {RFC} - new service on Linux.nf in answer to MPSA
Douglas J. Hunley wrote: What does everyone think of me putting up a page on linux.nf that anyone can come to and have their system scanned for known security exploits? I'm thinking the user would surf over to say http://linux.nf/scanme/ and the page would display a quick little disclaimer stating what it's going to do, that you should be the owener of the machine being scanned, and that by clicking the 'scan me' button you agree to release us from liability... when they click the button, it launches a Nessus scan, puts up a 'please wait while you are scanned' page, and then when the nessus scan completes, it pops up a page with the results of the scan. of course, it would scan the ip of the machine viewing the page so that the user couldn't put in somebody else's ip (I know, i know... this wouldn't work for machines behind a proxy).. thoughts? It's not just the owner that needs to be happy, as he usually doesn't own the network you are scanning across. If this were to trigger alarm bells on some ISPs automated surveillance systems, we might find the SxS site being blocked. Just a thought. -- burns ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Linux Journal article by one of us
Mr Bandel has an article on page 52 of the September 2001 issue of Linux Journal! -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ He's so sadistic he put quicksand in the litter box... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: glibc 2.2.4 release announcement
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: glibc 2.2.4 release announcement Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 15:30:57 -0500 From: J. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was too entertaining to let pass.. snipped from the bottom of the 2.2.4 release announcement by Ulrich Drepper And now for some not so nice things. Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called steering committee (SC). The SC is different from the SC in projects like gcc in that it does not make decisions. On this front nothing changed. The only difference is that Stallman now has no right to complain anymore since the SC he wanted acknowledged the status quo. I hope he will now shut up forever. The morale of this is that people will hopefully realize what a control freak and raging manic Stallman is. Don't trust him. As soon as something isn't in line with his view he'll stab you in the back. *NEVER* voluntarily put a project you work on under the GNU umbrella since this means in Stallman's opinion that he has the right to make decisions for the project. The glibc situation is even more frightening if one realizes the story behind it. When I started porting glibc 1.09 to Linux (which eventually became glibc 2.0) Stallman threatened me and tried to force me to contribute rather to the work on the Hurd. Work on Linux would be counter-productive to the Free Software course. Then came, what would be called embrace-and-extend if performed by the Evil of the North-West, and his claim for everything which lead to Linux's success. Which brings us to the second point. One change the SC forced to happen against my will was to use LGPL 2.1 instead of LGPL 2. The argument was that the poor lawyers cannot see that LGPL 2 is sufficient. Guess who were the driving forces behind this. The most remarkable thing is that Stallman was all for this despite the clear motivation of commercialization. The reason: he finally got the provocative changes he made to the license through. In case you forgot or haven't heard, here's an excerpt: [...] For example, permission to use the GNU C Library in non-free programs enables many more people to use the whole GNU operating system, as well as its variant, the GNU/Linux operating system. This $%$ demands everything to be labeled in a way which credits him and he does not stop before making completely wrong statements like its variant. I find this completely unacceptable and can assure everybody that I consider none of the code I contributed to glibc (which is quite a lot) to be as part of the GNU project and so a major part of what Stallman claims credit for is simply going away. This part has a morale, too, and it is almost the same: don't trust this person. Read the licenses carefully and rip out parts which give Stallman any possibility to influence your future. Phrases like [...] GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. just invites him to screw you when it pleases him. Rip out the any later version part and make your own decisions when to use a different license since otherwise he can potentially do you or your work harm. In case you are interested why the SC could make this decision I'll give a bit more background. When this SC idea came up I wanted to fork glibc (out of Stallman's control) or resign from any work. The former was not welcome this it was feared to cause fragmentation. I didn't agree but if nobody would use a fork it's of no use. There also wasn't much interest in me resigning so we ended up with the SC arrangement where the SC does nothing except the things I am not doing myself at all: handling political issues. All technical discussions happens as before on the mailing list of the core developers and I reserve the right of the final decision. The LGPL 2.1 issue was declared political and therefore in scope of the SC. I didn't feel this was reason enough to leave the project for good so I tolerated the changes. Especially since I didn't realize the mistake with the wording of the copyright statements which allow applying later license versions before. I cannot see this repeating, though. Despite what Stallman believes, maintaining a GNU project is *NOT* a privilege. It's a burden, and the bigger the project the bigger the burden. I have no interest to allow somebody else to tell me what to do and not to do if this is part of my free time. There are plenty of others interesting things to do and
HW in general Re: Memories...
Speaking of ancient hardware, i'm drowning in it. Same offer stands (you pay for shipping, and its yours). All are fully functional, and are verified to work quite well in Linux: 3 Quantum Atlas 9GB SCA (80 pin) harddrives 1 48x IDE CDROM drive 1 Socket-370 Celeron 466Mhz CPU w/heatsinnk fan 1 Dual port PCI Intel Ethernet Express 10/100 NIC 1 Soundblaster 16 ISA soundcard many Ultra-160 SCSI ribbons 3 Corsair PC100 128MB ECC registered memory 1 Corsair doublewide PC100 256MB ECC registered memory 1 Kingston doublewide PC100 256MB ECC registered memory 2 Kingston PC100 64MB ECC registered memory Please contact me off list if you're interested in any of the above. BTW, i can only ship FedEx. --- Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just completed a BIG hardware upgrade at a clients worksite and they gave me all the old components that I could carry... not to mention a nice paycheck too... :') Anyways, I've got a BIG BAG full of 72 pin simms of various speeds, sizes and manufacture... No body wants them... the local libraries, hospitals are all upgraded to the max... ;') So... If anyone needs to upgrade a host of old 486/586 computers... I've got what you need. Free. Just pay me the shipping... I can't guarentee what you'll get, but I'll try to help you get what you need as best as possible. If I totally strike out just send the stuff back so I can try again with somone else. Also, I got a REALLY OLD phillips CM205 with ISA interface card and cable. It's like new... if anyone needs this specific hardware... same deal... just pay shipping. Along these same lines, I've got 3 internal IDE cdrom drives, one pcmcia ide cdrom drive and an IOMEGA PARALLEL PORT TAPE 250 (no software)... same deal. A couple of noname ISA sound cards, etc... Also a number of various pentium chips... from 66mhz to 120mhz... same deal. No harddrives this time... they kept them for security reasons. If anyone here can use this stuff, just ask. If you know of anyone, refer them. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Journal article by one of us
--- Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Bandel has an article on page 52 of the September 2001 issue of Linux Journal! Urmmm...Dave Bandel is a columnist for Linux Journal. He has an article in every issue. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Wheel mouse on Slack8?
I'm trying out Slackware 8.0, and my wheel mouse doesn't wheel. The 3 buttons work, but no scrolling. I've tried editing the XF86Config file and addingOption ZAxisMapping X but no luck. I can't figure out the options. I have a logitech mouse. Anyone make one of these work in slack? Thanks Ken ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Journal article by one of us
On Thursday 16 August 2001 20:22, Net Llama babbled: --- Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Bandel has an article on page 52 of the September 2001 issue of Linux Journal! Urmmm...Dave Bandel is a columnist for Linux Journal. He has an article in every issue. well, it just finally made a connection with me this issue... and I've been reading this magazine for like 2 years... /me going to bed... -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ if i knew what i was doing, life would be so much more boring ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Wheel mouse on Slack8?
Ken Moffat wrote: I'm trying out Slackware 8.0, and my wheel mouse doesn't wheel. The 3 buttons work, but no scrolling. I've tried editing the XF86Config file and addingOption ZAxisMapping X but no luck. I can't figure out the options. I have a logitech mouse. Anyone make one of these work in slack? Thanks Ken Try ZAxisMapping 4 5 -- Andrew Mathews 8:15pm up 33 min, 3 users, load average: 1.01, 0.88, 0.50 Necessity is a mother. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: {RFC} - new service on Linux.nf in answer to MPSA
also http://grc.com What does everyone think of me putting up a page on linux.nf that anyone can come to and have their system scanned for known security exploits? I'm thinking the user would surf over to say http://linux.nf/scanme/ and the Are you aware of www.vulnerabilities.com ? It will do an nmap or nessus scan. Quite good. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HW in general Re: Memories...
The Llama coyly spake: BTW, i can only ship FedEx. What, not UPS!! tee hee -- burns ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.4.8 kernel is evil!
On Thursday 16 August 2001 09:18 am, Shawn Tayler wrote: | Yes it is. There are several bugs that have been published and | probably a few that have not. There is a 2.4.9pre1 that fixes | some. I'd wait on 2.4.9 stable version at the very least, or go | back to 2.4.7 fwiw, linus a.) released 2.4.9 today and b.) left the country. really. -- dep one day, you'll wish it was now. your wish has been granted. don't waste it. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: icewm
Thanks Lonnie, Mike and Ronnie, A light weight window manager is all I need, especially when it resembles win95, suiting my purpose for M$ immigrants ( oh how I hate the term refugees! ) . Since you have not mentioned any 'issues'. I would assume that it is fairly stable, right? :-) Auyeung - Original Message - On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:30:19 +0800 Auyeung at Technet [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: AT Spent some time tonight playing with icewm. First impression :- I like AT it. Loads faster than KDE. Anybody has experience and comments ? == ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HW in general Re: Memories...
--- burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Llama coyly spake: BTW, i can only ship FedEx. What, not UPS!! tee hee Errr...no. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Wheel mouse on Slack8?
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:18:47 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: I'm trying out Slackware 8.0, and my wheel mouse doesn't wheel. Ken Try ZAxisMapping 4 5 -- Andrew Mathews Thanks! I tried that, but had the quotes wrong. Worked like a charm. Ken ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Wheel mouse on Slack8?
On August 16, 2001 06:36 pm, Ken Moffat wrote: I'm trying out Slackware 8.0, and my wheel mouse doesn't wheel. The 3 buttons work, but no scrolling. I've tried editing the XF86Config file and addingOption ZAxisMapping X but no luck. I can't figure out the options. I have a logitech mouse. Anyone make one of these work in slack? Thanks Is that a literal 'X' in your argument? You need to pass the wheel 'buttons' that are the scroll wheel output. Using slack right now and in my XF86Config in the mouse sectionI've got: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 It's working fine for me. David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
