Re: LVM with vanilla RH 7.2 kernel?
On Feb 2 David A. Bandel was heard saying: snip - The library liblvm.so and the lvm module are missing from the lvm rpm - package, so does that mean it isn't supported in the RH's 7.2 kernel or - am I overlooking something? - - In case it's not supported why does the install create /dev/lvm and - install lvm? - -modprobe lvm-mod *** Ah yes, that was exactly the reason why I decided to share this with the list. Modprobe gives obviously modprobe: Can't locate module lvm-mod because it doesn't exist. See above. -Then you have a short sequence of ??create (pvcreate, lvcreate, vgcreate) -sequences to stumble through. Then you need to run vgchange. Finally, -you should be able to mount your vg. Notes: if you're going to stripe *** Well, that's what I thought too but when vgscan gave me vgscan -- LVM driver/module not loaded? I started looking a bit deeper and came to the conclusion that the rpm package kernel doesn't provide this. It's in the kernel but you still have to recompile it!? Since the issue is to install this by only using the stuff you get from Red Hat I havent't tried to patch or recompile anything. What puzzles me is that even upgrading the kernel from a rpm package doesn't change this. The module is not in the 2.4.2-2, 2.4.7-10 or 2.4.9-21... What are you using, SuSE? Cheers, Zoran. -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: QuickBooks Alternative
Might want to take a look at this: http://www.linuxcanada.com/quasar.html Haven't used it or heard much about it, just came across it when looking for a QuickBooks alternative. I did find this web page, but I don't know when it was last updated. It does list quite a few apps and a description of each. Proprietary Business Finance Software http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/financeproprietary.html Free Software for Business Accounting http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/financefreesoft.html Please note that I have used nothing but MoneyDance and tried out the beta's for Kapital. Therefore I cannot recommend for or against any of these software packages. YMMV. Jim On Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:36, Michael Hipp wrote: On Saturday 02 February 2002 04:46 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: If your budget is limited ($0), sql-ledger works well. There are one or two more as well. If you have deep pockets, then I suggest AppGen. Thanks. AppGen looks promising. I don't mind paying reasonable $ for it as QB certainly isn't free (and it doesn't scale as the business grows). Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- 5:42am up 3 days, 17:11, 4 users, load average: 0.47, 0.49, 0.61 Running Caldera W3.1 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Q: How long does it take to...
... read the Linux source code outloud? A: http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/ Cheers, Zoran. -- If you find me, please return me to my $HOME: my address is 'cd'. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: LVM with vanilla RH 7.2 kernel?
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:38:49 +0100 (CET) begin Zoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] *** Ah yes, that was exactly the reason why I decided to share this with the list. Modprobe gives obviously modprobe: Can't locate module lvm-mod because it doesn't exist. See above. normally, this would not be directly compiled into the kernel -- have you checked dmesg to make sure it hasn't been? how about RH's build source? [snip] I started looking a bit deeper and came to the conclusion that the rpm package kernel doesn't provide this. It's in the kernel but you still have to recompile it!? it's either compiled in or it's not. If not, guess you do have to recompile. Since the issue is to install this by only using the stuff you get from Red Hat I havent't tried to patch or recompile anything. What puzzles me is that even upgrading the kernel from a rpm package doesn't change this. The module is not in the 2.4.2-2, 2.4.7-10 or 2.4.9-21... What are you using, SuSE? On one box, but not the one with LVM on it. The SuSE box is only an XDM client. I also run Mandrake, Caldera, and Linux From Scratch (the box with LVM). Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: logcheck error
There should have been another message with this one telling who the message was to. The relay here would suggest that this was sent from your machine. Are you using fetchmail? On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:08:13 +0800 Chang[linuxism] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for asking silly question again. What is this time? Was it just a probe? Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Feb 2 14:00:18 server sendmail[31113]: g1260IN31113: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2667, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=02bc01c1abad$fb23bdc0$b7b8f9c1@foxil, bodytype=7BIT, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: logcheck error
Looks as he is using sendmail and that [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the message. What is the to=... line underneath of the poster from line. it will tell you who its to. On Sunday 03 February 2002 08:59, you were heard blurting out: There should have been another message with this one telling who the message was to. The relay here would suggest that this was sent from your machine. Are you using fetchmail? On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:08:13 +0800 Chang[linuxism] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for asking silly question again. What is this time? Was it just a probe? Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Feb 2 14:00:18 server sendmail[31113]: g1260IN31113: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2667, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=02bc01c1abad$fb23bdc0$b7b8f9c1@foxil, bodytype=7BIT, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan )188133 http://counter.li.org #linux-users irc.openprojects.net:6667 Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... 9/11/01 http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 9:30am up 186 days, 24 min, 13 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
I changed over to a dynamic ip from a static ip number with comcast recently. I got an ip number and ran nslookup against it to see what my new host name was, and it was: pcp361333pcs-udp079123uds.towson01.md.comcast.net Now, when I run nslookup against my ip number, which hasn't changed, I get: tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net I called comcast tech support but they were clueless about this. Or, better put, I was unable to make them appreciate my concerns. My major concern is to maintain my current ip number, which is reachable from anywhere on the internet as hammershome.com. SO, any comcast users here? Have you tried to reboot your machine to see if you maintain the same ip number. Have you tried to use the new hostname with the -h parameter with dhcpcd? Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name (tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back: 68.33.4.228 ? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
Tyler Regas wrote: Don't you think that's pretty cynical? I happen to think that Mandrake has a very strong community connection. Hell, they post their nightly builds on Cooker, FCS! At 11:44 PM 2/2/2002, you wrote: Mostly SUSE and mandrake are going for servers with partners like IBM and such big names so they are trying to ignore the normal user and marketing of them to big firms is only done with the partner Believe you have SuSe and Mandrake confused with Caldera. I have sitting on the retail bookshelf boxed sets of Mandrake 8.1 and SuSe 7.2 for the desktop computer. Suse even included a sheet of stickers to plaster my box with and a pin to jam in my ballhat.Mandrake is running a Mandrake Club users list that periodically receives info from the company of interest to the common user and tech advice from other users. Lee --- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pdahandyman.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
I've been pretty happy with Mandrake on my desktop. I only wish they'd stick a little closer to the normal menuing system. I find mdk's customized menu rather annoying. One thing nice I've found about SuSE, BTW, is that it includes FreeSWAN VPN solution in the box. Caldera, RH, and I believe Mdk can't say that. On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:33:55 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how true this is. Mandrake is notoriously bleeding edge. No company is going to want to install their product for normal usage. --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mostly SUSE and mandrake are going for servers with partners like IBM and such big names so they are trying to ignore the normal user and marketing of them to big firms is only done with the partner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002 Ted Ozolins wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:52 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: o: SuSE Linux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. I came to know later that they cancelled their spot. So with this and coupled with the fact that they laid off most of the US staff, does it mean that SuSE is no longer interested in US market? Lenz? I was also surprised to see Mandrake booth. This year, the floor was even smaller and attendence lighter. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Mandrake. Lately, they have begun to show an agressive streak. Imagine that the French advance while the Germans retreat. The next thing you know somebody will let the cat out of that bag that Gates runs Linux on his home computer. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
She pings from 167.ville. On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:41:34 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed over to a dynamic ip from a static ip number with comcast recently. I got an ip number and ran nslookup against it to see what my new host name was, and it was: pcp361333pcs-udp079123uds.towson01.md.comcast.net Now, when I run nslookup against my ip number, which hasn't changed, I get: tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net I called comcast tech support but they were clueless about this. Or, better put, I was unable to make them appreciate my concerns. My major concern is to maintain my current ip number, which is reachable from anywhere on the internet as hammershome.com. SO, any comcast users here? Have you tried to reboot your machine to see if you maintain the same ip number. Have you tried to use the new hostname with the -h parameter with dhcpcd? Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name(tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back: 68.33.4.228 ? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: BTW, my current plan is, if I have to reboot, I will not run dhcpd and not ask to be reassigned an ip number. In effect, I will act like I have a static number. Afterall, they did give an infinite lease when they assigned my number to me. Has anyone tried this? Joel Hi Joel, Thru several re-boots of my router (opening and closing ports), my IP address has yet to change. I don't think you have to worry about using DHCP to get your IP address. It seems each cable modem gets a unique IP address that doesn't change. HTH, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
On Sunday 03 February 2002 07:41 am, Joel Hammer wrote: Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name (tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back: 68.33.4.228 ? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. PING tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228) from (me) : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=131.896 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=130.139 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=129.973 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=131.733 msec 64 bytes from tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net (68.33.4.228): icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=133.442 msec --- tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 129.973/131.436/133.442/1.336 ms
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
Thanks everybody. It sounds like things are more or less like they were under the old @HOME arrangement, which is good. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Sunday 03 February 2002 12:59 pm, Peter Ruskin warbled: I've always detested the Mandrakised menus but you don't have to suffer them. If you start menudrake and select standard menu then log out, when you log in again the menus are as you expect them. Which version of Mandrake do you have. I started MenuDrake up; I think, and could not find that standard menu tag anywhere (8.1)... I use mostly KDE and I've added a single Quick Browser on kicker pointing to /usr/share/applnk-mdk -- just to see if I may be missing anything after upgrades. Now thats something that I have not been able to fathom out how to do. There is nothing to say how to get online and upgrade the files. I found the the mandrake control centre and click on System - Software Manager. I then have a small window 'configure a source', click on this it gives me sources but from here on I am lost: too bloody complicated. All i want to do is like Suse upload the updates and install them. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I've been pretty happy with Mandrake on my desktop. I only wish they'd stick a little closer to the normal menuing system. I find mdk's customized menu rather annoying. One thing nice I've found about SuSE, BTW, is that it includes FreeSWAN VPN solution in the box. Caldera, RH, and I believe Mdk can't say that. Free/SWAN patches are in the Mandrake kernel, as well as the user space applications. Stew Benedict ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Monday 04 Feb 2002 11:42, Keith Antoine wrote: On Sunday 03 February 2002 12:59 pm, Peter Ruskin warbled: I've always detested the Mandrakised menus but you don't have to suffer them. If you start menudrake and select standard menu then log out, when you log in again the menus are as you expect them. Which version of Mandrake do you have. I started MenuDrake up; I think, and could not find that standard menu tag anywhere (8.1)... I have 8.1 and Cooker, Keith. Do menudrake - Action - Menu style - Standard menu. I use mostly KDE and I've added a single Quick Browser on kicker pointing to /usr/share/applnk-mdk -- just to see if I may be missing anything after upgrades. Now thats something that I have not been able to fathom out how to do. There is nothing to say how to get online and upgrade the files. I found the the mandrake control centre and click on System - Software Manager. I then have a small window 'configure a source', click on this it gives me sources but from here on I am lost: too bloody complicated. All i want to do is like Suse upload the updates and install them. There are loads of mirrors, I use these ( I won't list Cooker because you probably won't want that ) : ftp://ftp.sunet.se/Mandrake-devel/contrib/ ftp://ftp.sunet.se/Mandrake/updates/8.1/ ftp://ftp.sunet.se/Mandrake-devel/unsupported/8.1/ I believe that Software Manager will check the net if you're online and find sources for you. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 9 hours 22 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Xine refuses to play DVDs
Greetings, I acquired an older 8X DVD drive last week, and started to delve into the world of DVDs in Linux. I had no problems whatsoever getting MPlayer to play any random DVD I threw at it. But, since MPlayer seems to have a very limited feature-set with DVDs, I figured I'd build Xine-0.9.8 too and give that a whirl. No such luck. I built xine-lib then xine-gui from source, and attempt to play any DVD that MPlayer handled easily, and all i get is the same error: Sorry, xine doesn't play encrypted DVDs. The legal status of CSS decryption is unclear and we will not provide such code. input_dvd: Unable to find VIDEO_TS.VOB on dvd. input_d5d: open dvd://VIDEO_TS.VOB xine: cannot find input plugin for this MRL Once that error occurs, all i get are seg faults, until I start Xine again, which only results in more of the same frustration. Seeing as how MPlayer plays these very same 'encrypted' DVDs, I obviously have libdvdcss and libdvdread installed properly. So, what am I missing here? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:33:55 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how true this is. Mandrake is notoriously bleeding edge. No company is going to want to install their product for normal usage. --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mostly SUSE and mandrake are going for servers with partners like IBM and such big names so they are trying to ignore the normal user and marketing of them to big firms is only done with the partner -Original Message- On Behalf Of Lee Ted Ozolins wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:52 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. I was also surprised to see Mandrake booth. This year, the floor was even smaller and attendence lighter. Mandrake changed from one relese to the next. They used to be just a tiche better than RedHat, I installed a Beta that worked great, but every release after that was further over the edge. I'm back to ELX for now. -- Collins Richey (Denver Area) WWTLRD? - ELX - XFCE - SYLPHEED ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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There's a fire in linux.advocacy... Here's why: http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ Market share for top servers across all domains, August 1995 - January 2002 Active Sites Developer December 2001 Percent January 2002 Percent ChangeApache 8588323 63.34 8997645 63.69 0.35 Microsoft 3609428 26.62 3683141 26.07 -0.55 iPlanet 3830782.83 4228062.99 0.16 Zeus 1723521.27 1711971.21 -0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
SOLVED [Re: Xine refuses to play DVDs]
OK, i'm an idiot. Apparently what I was missing was another 3rd party plugin which was referenced on the Xine website. --- Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I acquired an older 8X DVD drive last week, and started to delve into the world of DVDs in Linux. I had no problems whatsoever getting MPlayer to play any random DVD I threw at it. But, since MPlayer seems to have a very limited feature-set with DVDs, I figured I'd build Xine-0.9.8 too and give that a whirl. No such luck. I built xine-lib then xine-gui from source, and attempt to play any DVD that MPlayer handled easily, and all i get is the same error: Sorry, xine doesn't play encrypted DVDs. The legal status of CSS decryption is unclear and we will not provide such code. input_dvd: Unable to find VIDEO_TS.VOB on dvd. input_d5d: open dvd://VIDEO_TS.VOB xine: cannot find input plugin for this MRL Once that error occurs, all i get are seg faults, until I start Xine again, which only results in more of the same frustration. Seeing as how MPlayer plays these very same 'encrypted' DVDs, I obviously have libdvdcss and libdvdread installed properly. So, what am I missing here? __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Xine refuses to play DVDs
On Sunday 03 Feb 2002 22:33, Net Llama wrote: Greetings, I acquired an older 8X DVD drive last week, and started to delve into the world of DVDs in Linux. I had no problems whatsoever getting MPlayer to play any random DVD I threw at it. But, since MPlayer seems to have a very limited feature-set with DVDs, I figured I'd build Xine-0.9.8 too and give that a whirl. No such luck. I built xine-lib then xine-gui from source, and attempt to play any DVD that MPlayer handled easily, and all i get is the same error: Sorry, xine doesn't play encrypted DVDs. The legal status of CSS decryption is unclear and we will not provide such code. input_dvd: Unable to find VIDEO_TS.VOB on dvd. input_d5d: open dvd://VIDEO_TS.VOB xine: cannot find input plugin for this MRL Once that error occurs, all i get are seg faults, until I start Xine again, which only results in more of the same frustration. Seeing as how MPlayer plays these very same 'encrypted' DVDs, I obviously have libdvdcss and libdvdread installed properly. So, what am I missing here? What version? I'm using xine-lib-0.9.8, xine-ui-0.9.8 and xine-dvdnav-0.9.8.beta2, all built from source. It works fine. From xine-dvdnav-0.9.8.beta2/README... Software Requirements ~~ * A version of xine-lib and xine-ui which matches the version number of this release. * libdvdread (0.9.0 or higher recommended) which may be downloaded from http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/downloads.shtml * For CSS-decryption, a copy of libdvdcss from the VideoLan project's homepage (http://www.videolan.org/). xine can play Video CDs, SVCDs and DVDs directly. Unfortunately the legal status of encrypted/locked DVD playback is uncertain in some countries so xine does not include any DVD unlock/decrypt code. To play back such DVDs you'll need external programs or something like a xine_dvd_plugin that can handle DVD authentification/descrambling. There are links to the various available plugins on the xine home page http://xine.sourceforge.net/ -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 10 hours 46 minutes. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
I don't know how true this is. Mandrake is notoriously bleeding edge. No company is going to want to install their product for normal usage. Ah, but that's where Mandrake has succeeded where others, especially Red Hat have not. Mandrake just inked a deal with HP to provide two versions of 8.1 (I think) for the vast majority of *desktop* systems HP sells. Mandrake being on the bleeding edge has put them into the position where they could accept this contract. Their system is the most complete, GUI-based Linux distro there is. Literally no feature must be edited from a text editor. No critical application is only accessible through the console. They're all there, its just that Mandrake has practically eliminated the need for the CLI tools. And don't think that this is _not_ what people want. They most assuredly do. No matter how slick and shifty MS was (and is), if Windows simply sucked so bad as to be nigh unusable, people would stop using it. Now, we all know, regardless of how much we hate M$, that the thing does work... to a degree. This is enough for the average user and won't change for some time, or until something easier and cheaper and 100% compatible comes along. The Mac was there, but it succumbed to poor management, a 'hippy' mentality, and an accomplice factor that causes them to lump in with MS instead of compete. If Apple was really serious about competition and not just making easy money riding on MS' anti-trust coattails they would have been building dull beige models of the iMac and G3/4 systems all along to sell into corporations and not spend all their time on candy colored operating systems, regardless of how truly bitching it may be. Next comes Psion/Symbian. I know, this doesn't make much sense, but its a reality. EPOC32 and the Symbian OS (which are really quite similar) is very compatible with Windows and MS file formats, is extremely scalable (from phone to desktop), and handles Java and TCP/IP with native aplomb. Psion's inability to properly market handheld devices to the consumer and keep a steady flow of new, evolutionary devices coming did, however, clearly indicate that it will take longer to get to the desktop. Last, and certainly not least, is Linux. Even Red Hat, the self-appointed champion of the Open Source and Linux movements, has been unable to achieve the ease of use and GUI integration of Mandrake. There are few distros that come close to matching what Mandrake has been able to offer the desktop user. Combine Mandrake's Control Center, Mandrake Update (skip the kernel upgrade unless you've retained the stock kernel in your install, though), and Ximian's Red Carpet and you have a powerful GUI-based technology currency system in place. AFAIK, other than Red Carpet, the Mandrake tools are not present elsewhere. Tyler --- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pdahandyman.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: 63%
What? On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:01:59 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a fire in linux.advocacy... Here's why: http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ Market share for top servers across all domains, August 1995 - January 2002 Active Sites Developer December 2001 Percent January 2002 Percent ChangeApache 8588323 63.34 8997645 63.69 0.35 Microsoft 3609428 26.62 3683141 26.07 -0.55 iPlanet 3830782.83 4228062.99 0.16 Zeus 1723521.27 1711971.21 -0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
The thing is they are selling the retail pack but are not after the pranks of marketing that they were doing before to sell to individual user. Ex. Suse is giving this things that its normal advertising is done by seeing the stickers of your machine and pin on your ballhat but have you seen them advertising vigorously like big names like IBM, HP, Compaq, Microsoft, Seagate, etc. Keeping a dedicated men/women for support and a dedicated server to make the user list working though seem to be a bit costlier for an individual user but it's a cheap deal in comparison of running an advertising campaign. To the point, this linux resellers are in the retail market but sees more stuff in the server market and wants to make big bucks there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002 Tyler Regas wrote: Don't you think that's pretty cynical? I happen to think that Mandrake has a very strong community connection. Hell, they post their nightly builds on Cooker, FCS! At 11:44 PM 2/2/2002, you wrote: Mostly SUSE and mandrake are going for servers with partners like IBM and such big names so they are trying to ignore the normal user and marketing of them to big firms is only done with the partner Believe you have SuSe and Mandrake confused with Caldera. I have sitting on the retail bookshelf boxed sets of Mandrake 8.1 and SuSe 7.2 for the desktop computer. Suse even included a sheet of stickers to plaster my box with and a pin to jam in my ballhat.Mandrake is running a Mandrake Club users list that periodically receives info from the company of interest to the common user and tech advice from other users. Lee --- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pdahandyman.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
X420 how to...
Thanks Doug. Nice step-x-step. What I was missing was all the hacking to the config scripts. Thank you, again. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
Tyler wrote: They're all there, its just that Mandrake has practically eliminated the need for the CLI tools. Oh swell... like filling your car floor to ceiling with cotton candy, then trying to drive down the street. Now, we all know, regardless of how much we hate M$, that the thing does work... to a degree. This is enough for the average user and won't change for some time, or until something easier and cheaper and 100% compatible comes along. I'm sorry, Tyler, but I just can't bring myself to join the our aim is to out-windows Microsoft camp. IMHO anybody with enough money, time and a frontal lobotomy can produce a Windows OS clone. We shouldn't compromise on the values that make Linux *better* (and different). I don't want to sound elitist and it's true we do still have a ways to go in terms of useability, but if we have to make Linux look and act exactly like Windows, then maybe there are some users we just don't need to attract. /sunday evening rant The Mac was there, but it succumbed to poor management, a 'hippy' mentality, and an accomplice factor that causes them to lump in with MS instead of compete. The MAC suffered because they insisted on a completely proprietary model in an increasingly generic market model. They were clobbered by the dominance of the PC clone model and all the explosive cross-development that brought with it. Next comes Psion/Symbian. I know, this doesn't make much sense, but its a reality. EPOC32 and the Symbian OS (which are really quite similar) is very compatible with Windows and MS file formats, is extremely scalable (from phone to desktop), and handles Java and TCP/IP with native aplomb. Psion's inability to properly market handheld devices to the consumer and keep a steady flow of new, evolutionary devices coming did, however, clearly indicate that it will take longer to get to the desktop. Psion did a pretty good business in Europe, especially with their handhelds devices... they were years ahead of the current PDA market. However, they became stagnant and are starting to lose share in a market they should have dominated. They easily could have been Palm, but for old boy parochialism and an inability to think globally and reach beyond regional markets. You're a PDA guy - you should know that. Last, and certainly not least, is Linux. Even Red Hat, the self-appointed champion of the Open Source and Linux movements, has been unable to achieve the ease of use and GUI integration of Mandrake. There are few distros that come close to matching what Mandrake has been able to offer the desktop user. Combine Mandrake's Control Center, Mandrake Update (skip the kernel upgrade unless you've retained the stock kernel in your install, though), and Ximian's Red Carpet and you have a powerful GUI-based technology currency system in place. Mandrake's primary money market is Europe, where the Linux desktop is gaining far greater acceptance than on this side of the pond. Here, in North America, the Linux market is primarily in the server room and that is where RedHat is putting most of its development resources. Ipso Facto: Engineering goes where the bucks are - where that is depends upon your target market. YMMV -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
begin Burns MacDonald's quote: | Tyler wrote: | They're all there, its just that Mandrake has practically | eliminated the need for the CLI tools. | | Oh swell... like filling your car floor to ceiling with cotton | candy, then trying to drive down the street. which is actually not far from my characterizing suse's configuration tools -- filling the box so full of strofoam peanuts that there's no room to move. | I'm sorry, Tyler, but I just can't bring myself to join the our | aim is to out-windows Microsoft camp. IMHO anybody with enough | money, time and a frontal lobotomy can produce a Windows OS clone. | We shouldn't compromise on the values that make Linux *better* (and | different). I don't want to sound elitist and it's true we do still | have a ways to go in terms of useability, but if we have to make | Linux look and act exactly like Windows, then maybe there are some | users we just don't need to attract. /sunday evening rant agreement again. a surprisingly delightful post came from rms on the gnome list -- he said that chasing msft is foolish, that chasing the mac would make far more sense. which it would, because linux is far more flexible than the mac, but the mac has a gui that eats for breakfast the best that msft has to offer. | The MAC suffered because they insisted on a completely proprietary | model in an increasingly generic market model. They were clobbered | by the dominance of the PC clone model and all the explosive | cross-development that brought with it. exactly right. ibm's open architecture. | Psion did a pretty good business in Europe, especially with their | handhelds devices... they were years ahead of the current PDA | market. However, they became stagnant and are starting to lose | share in a market they should have dominated. They easily could | have been Palm, but for old boy parochialism and an inability to | think globally and reach beyond regional markets. You're a PDA guy | - you should know that. the amstrad of the 90s. sad, really. i just spent a little while with the sharp zaurus, and it ought to devour everything in sight. even has a keyboard. though the market remains open for someone to produce the pentium (or, better, transmeta crusoe) equivalent of the wonderful old poquet pc with an ibm trackpoint-style pointing device. i keep hoping ibm does it, and ibm keeps not doing it. i have a toshiba libretto (p-166, 64 megs, 10 gigs, 800x480) that *does* run linux well -- wrote my piece on lwe on it, on the train coming home -- but the combination of its limited resources and linux developers' lack of discipline when writing code (it could, and ought to be, a hell of a lot tighter, but new hardware prevents its needing to be) keeps it from being really practical for most uses. | Mandrake's primary money market is Europe, where the Linux desktop | is gaining far greater acceptance than on this side of the pond. | Here, in North America, the Linux market is primarily in the server | room and that is where RedHat is putting most of its development | resources. Ipso Facto: Engineering goes where the bucks are - where | that is depends upon your target market. mandrake isn't doing all that well in europe, either -- suse is doing much better there, because despite its many obvious shortcomings, it has a caldera-like desire to achieve and maintain stability. mandrake is in many ways little more than a broken red hat. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On February 3, 2002 11:23 pm, dep wrote: agreement again. a surprisingly delightful post came from rms on the gnome list -- he said that chasing msft is foolish, that chasing the mac would make far more sense. which it would, because linux is far more flexible than the mac, but the mac has a gui that eats for breakfast the best that msft has to offer. Yup. Probably cause they have been working on it longer (before Bill acquired it). mandrake isn't doing all that well in europe, either -- suse is doing much better there, because despite its many obvious shortcomings, it has a caldera-like desire to achieve and maintain stability. mandrake is in many ways little more than a broken red hat. It's true. I have yet to see Mandrake running seriously in a server room... it's invariably RedHat, Debian, sometimes Slackware or (very rarely) Caldera. I understand that SuSE is common in Europe and 7.2 and 7.3 Pro are getting rave reviews as a server load, but for all intents and purposes, SuSE just doesn't exist in the North American corporate market. FWIW, I am running SuSE 7.2 Pro I am starting to see more and more OpenBSD which points to greater security awareness and an emphasis on locking down networked systems sadly, something that we are currently missing - there is no real security-oriented Linux distro. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
begin burns's quote: | It's true. I have yet to see Mandrake running seriously in a server | room... it's invariably RedHat, Debian, sometimes Slackware or | (very rarely) Caldera. I understand that SuSE is common in Europe | and 7.2 and 7.3 Pro are getting rave reviews as a server load, but | for all intents and purposes, SuSE just doesn't exist in the North | American corporate market. FWIW, I am running SuSE 7.2 Pro i'm running 7.3 pro here, and i have gained nothing in the upgrade to justify the switch from 7.2. this one, imho, was rushed out the door. better to upgrade package-by-package, with 7.2 as the base. ymmv, of course. | I am starting to see more and more OpenBSD which points to greater | security awareness and an emphasis on locking down networked | systems sadly, something that we are currently missing - there | is no real security-oriented Linux distro. there are a few, but they're *really* niche. and there is selinux from the nsa, which is the real direction of things. the obsd movement has more, i'm afraid, to do with its kinship to netbsd, which in turn os OS-X, which means the availability of msft apps . . . . . -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Elx Linux
Folks: I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a couple of posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look them over and decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I can say is WOW! If this is a beta you can sure I'll be standing in line for the finished product. If your looking for a new distribution of Linux head of to their web site at http://www.elxlinux.com/; and see the good things their doing. Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
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Re: Elx Linux
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:36:55 -0800 Mike Mckinlay mike@CX43837-A wrote: Folks: I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a coupleof posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look them over and decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I can say is WOW! If this is a beta you can sure I'll be standing in line for the finished product. If your looking for a new distribution of Linux head of to their web site at http://www.elxlinux.com/; and see the good things their doing. Mike Elx is good. A problem I've had is with supermount, which was causing excessive delays while searching for media in cd's and mounting file systems. So I change my /etc/fstab file to a conventional mount point for the cd's and floppy, which fixed that problem. The Samba networking works well with my win95 box. The eth0 setup was a breeze, and the scsi emulation for my cd's works well, just added appends to lilo.conf. I'd like a few more window managers included, (just kde and gnome). And I don't like the windows like addons (network neighborhood, control panel) which are repackaged webmin utilities. But overall I'm impressed. It works and it's quite fast on my Athlon 1.4. They use kernel 2.4.13. Kylix2 runs well. I had a problem with permissions for cd sound, but added my user to the disk group and fixed that. (Also changed permissions to 666 on /dev/dsp, don't know if that was necessary) Anyway it works. It's a bit large at 3+ megs for full install. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Linux Cartoon
This is a classic: http://images.ucomics.com/comics/fw/2002/fw020203.gif -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
