RE: Disk Activity
Dep, Please try not to answer by .dat files as it is not opening, may be opening in linux but I do not have external modem so for internet and applications I have to maintain W2K I had also experienced the same problem of elongated disk activity in the past but at that time I was not on this list and formatting solved it but reading that question today the thing became afresh in my mind. If you could make attachment in a .txt format or other way many will be happy to know your answers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dep Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disk Activity ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Checked cron, it's definitely set to run every 5 minutes forever. Seems at least backing it down to 1/hour would be sufficient. Anyone know? Thanks, Michael Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > Hmm... > > Is this the despised rmmod command? I would remove this from the root > crontab or system crontab. I think a number of distros use it, to get > rid of unused modules, but, it causes more pain than it is worth in > some situations. > > Are there any other logs you could peek into? httpd, secure, and so on. > > Joel > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:38:06PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > > Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but > > nothing approaching every sec. > > > > Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above > URL. -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity (Bingo!)
Using KDE Control Center -> System -> Services, I started stopping services one-at-a-time. The culprit is the USB Hot Plug Daemon. Is this the same as 'hotpluguid'? It seems to still be loaded in memory but no longer coming to the top of top. ps -aux | grep uid: michael 1118 0.0 2.9 16412 7420 ?S21:52 0:00 hotpluguid Any way, problem solved if I can live without USB Hot Plugging. Thanks for everyone's help, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Hmm... Is this the despised rmmod command? I would remove this from the root crontab or system crontab. I think a number of distros use it, to get rid of unused modules, but, it causes more pain than it is worth in some situations. Are there any other logs you could peek into? httpd, secure, and so on. Joel On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:38:06PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but nothing > approaching every sec. > > Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) > > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Good thought. Looks like I'm getting these at 5 min intervals, but nothing approaching every sec. Feb 8 21:20:01 linux crond[1846]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:25:01 linux crond[1848]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:30:01 linux crond[1863]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Feb 8 21:35:01 linux crond[1877]: (root) CMD (/sbin/rmmod -a) Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: > I would look in /var/log/messages. Maybe you are getting numerous error > messages logged there, causing the disk activity. > Joel -- Michael R. Hipp "Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission?" - Patrick Henry March 23, 1775 (or just about anyone speaking of today) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
I would look in /var/log/messages. Maybe you are getting numerous error messages logged there, causing the disk activity. Joel On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 06:46:28PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: > Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all the time > I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
The drives have been in this config since I built the machine (< 1 month ago). The activity stops if I log out to the KDE login panel. Or if I get out of X altogether. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where > | and /home are. > > um, yeah. have you had both drives in the machine in the same > configuration -- both on the same cable -- when this disk activity > *didn't* take place? reason i ask is that there are very ugly > interactions between drives in this configuration sometimes, > irrespective of what's installed on 'em. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where | and /home are. um, yeah. have you had both drives in the machine in the same configuration -- both on the same cable -- when this disk activity *didn't* take place? reason i ask is that there are very ugly interactions between drives in this configuration sometimes, irrespective of what's installed on 'em. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
Look at th3e Caldera help info, they have one that talks about some kde utility on their system tray always checking, polling, cd roms or something along those lines. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
I unmounted the ReiserFS and vfat partitions. Disk activity continues. Setting 'top' to 0.1 second updates seems to show kdeinit, X, init, keventd, and maybe hotpluguid as the most active. But it's really hard to tell. Interesting that hotpluguid seems to jump from way down on list to very top at somewhat regular intervals. Unplugging the 2nd hard drive would take some work as that's where and /home are. Thanks. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE > | hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition > | mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure > | what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: > | total used free sharedbuffers > | cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 > | 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 > | Swap: 321260 0 321260 > > hmmm. how often does reiser write to the journal? > > also, what happens if you unplug the second drive? > > finally, if you *watch* top, does anything change when the disk access > takes place? -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE | hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition | mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure | what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: | total used free sharedbuffers | cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 | 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 | Swap: 321260 0 321260 hmmm. how often does reiser write to the journal? also, what happens if you unplug the second drive? finally, if you *watch* top, does anything change when the disk access takes place? -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
New mobo (P4 1.7 GHz, 256M, 845 Intel chipset w/DDR memory, 2 IDE hds on chan #0). Ext2 filesystem, tho I have an Elx partition mounted that is ReiserFS and also a vfat Win partition. Not sure what you're asking specifically about swap but 'free' says: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:255532 184120 71412 1024 3196 95168 -/+ buffers/cache: 85756 169776 Swap: 321260 0 321260 First few lines of 'Top': PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 1024 root 17 0 64904 14M 2672 R 2.3 5.9 0:44 X 1429 michael 13 0 10012 9.8M 9016 R 0.9 3.9 0:01 kdeinit 1140 michael 10 0 17604 17M 12960 R 0.5 6.8 0:26 kmail 1440 michael 11 0 1016 1016 780 R 0.5 0.3 0:01 top 1124 michael 11 0 7452 7448 5672 S 0.3 2.9 0:36 hotpluguid 1125 michael9 0 9464 9464 8540 S 0.1 3.7 0:11 kdeinit 1 root 9 0 476 476 416 S 0.0 0.1 0:03 init 2 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 keventd 3 root 19 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0 4 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 5 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreclaimd 6 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 bdflush 7 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kupdated 8 root -1 -20 00 0 SW< 0.0 0.0 0:00 mdrecoveryd 92 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 khubd 169 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 kreiserfsd 378 root 9 0 1012 1012 708 S 0.0 0.3 0:00 dhclient 556 root 9 0 660 660 548 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 syslogd 559 root 9 0 1200 1200 452 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 klogd 594 root 9 0 548 548 424 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 hotplugd 708 nobody 9 0 756 756 612 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 rpc.portmap 714 root 9 0 668 668 572 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 inetd 738 root 9 0 1520 1520 1236 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 amd 750 root 9 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 rpciod Any ideas appreciated. dep pontificated eloquently: > begin Michael Hipp's quote: > | Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all > | the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. > | > | Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? > > first, what hardware are you running? how do you have swap configured? > what filesystem are you using? > > second, open a konsole window and run top. look to see what if > anything is sucking resources (i have suspects based on experiences > here, but i'll not offer 'em up just yet), as well as its appraisal > of what's going on with memory and swap. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Disk Activity
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all | the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. | | Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? first, what hardware are you running? how do you have swap configured? what filesystem are you using? second, open a konsole window and run top. look to see what if anything is sucking resources (i have suspects based on experiences here, but i'll not offer 'em up just yet), as well as its appraisal of what's going on with memory and swap. -- dep There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Disk Activity
Something is continually strobing my hard disk about 1/second all the time I'm logged into KDE. Seems excessive. Is this "normal"? How could I track down which process is doing it? Thanks. -- Michael R. Hipp "The more corrupt the State the more numerous the laws." -Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
