Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread Douglas J. Hunley


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 Subject: Newbies Prayers Answered (LONG)
 From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 05:50:09 -0500

 http://www.redmondlinux.org
 
 I have been following the development of Redmond Linux for a while 
now, 
 never actually using it.  I decided to change around my LAN, and figured 
 now was as good a time as any to give it a try.   All I can say is wow.  
 Flawless install in under 20 minutes on a duron600@1050 abit kt7 256megs, 
 generic nic, SBPC 128, tnt2 m64.  If you're frustrated by linux, or are 
 thinking about trying it out read on.  This is simply the best option for 
 those looking for a windows alternative, or a linux playground/schoolyard. 
 
 It addresses every issue I have ever heard a new user complain about.
 
 If you are an experienced user, I highly suggest you recommend this distro 
 to potential newbies or frustrated newbies you may encounter. 
 
 I'm not at all affiliated with Redmond Linux, I just see this as a 
solution 
 to the flame wars that clog up the linux newsgroups.
 
 Anyway... on with the review. 
 The installer proceded as follows:
 
 1)  Put CD in drive, boot off CD, if you currently use windows you can 
 start from there as well booting from the CD or it will make a boot 
floppy. 
  
 2)  It auto probes for mouse, keyboard, and videocard/monitor.  These 
steps 
 consisted of hitting next until they were done.
 
 3)  Choose partition to install on.  You have the option of the whole 
disk, 
 existing partitions, free space, or expert, where you do the partitioning. 
 
 I don't know if you can partition on the fly, but even if you could I 
would 
 recommend partitioning in another app. 
 
 4)  The install starts.  There is only one possible config.  Easy for new 
 users who don't know what exists in the linux realm.  
 
 5)  Set up users, enter names and passwords.  Easy.
 
 6)  Set up networking, and printing.  DHCP, none, or manual settings.  
 Printing using cups and it looks like gimp-print.  Piece of cake as well.
 
 7)   Play solitaire until done.  Its really a step!!!
 
 8) make boot disk/restart.
 
 Like I said.  A complete install in under 20 minutes.  You can look up 
what 
 it comes with at http://www.redmondlinux.org  
 
 After playing around for a few hours I'm still very impressed.  
 
 The kde menu (your only window manager choice) is set up neatly 
and 
 logically organized.  In every menu the most often used choices are there, 
 and advanced options are under a submenu.   For example,the section 
 music and movies, has mp3 player (xmms in disguise) dvd/divx player 
(xine 
 in disguise) an option to watch tv... as selections, as well as a sub-menu 
 option for more multimedia programs,  which contains the mixer, midi 
 mapper, and arts builder.  The menus are very simple to understand, and 
 every program works perfectly.  Full screen divx, handled much better than 
 win2k did on this box.   
 
 The desktop is a clone of windows.  My linux computer  opens to 
give 
 shortcuts to all your drives, which are all perfectly configured to 
 automount.  CD's auto-run, ex... DVDs automatically load with xine, every 
 file type I tried was correctly linked to its application.  The feel is 
 much more windows like than linux.  There is no home directory mentioned 
 (it does exist, just silently), and drives are presented as if they were 
 not part of a contiguous filesystem, but separate file systems.  The 
 Network Browser icon opens up to all the Windows workgroups you can 
 access from your box, browsing is the same as with windows.  NO MOUNTING 
 NEEDED  Unfortunately, if you want to access a smb/windows share 
 directly through other programs you must mount it, or copy the file to 
your 
 local drive.  
 
 RedmondLinux developers have made all the program choices for you.  They 
 chose mozilla as the web browser and email client, but of course you could 
 install whichever you wanted.  They did provide IMHO a great selection of 
 apps.  There is one very strong app for every task you may need.  I 
 personally would only want to add kate, kmail, knode, and maybe 
 star-office, these are personal choices; an equally powerful alternative 
to 
 each is included.  Everything is there in one form or another, including 
 all of the common linux browser pluggins.
 
 Administration is a breeze.  The Developers made front-ends for almost 
 everything you could want, and incorporated them into the KDE Control 
 Center as pluggins.  Suddenly the KDE control center is as powerful as 
 linuxconf, no joke, but much easier to use.  They did the same advanced 
 options thing from the menu here as well, which lends itself well to its 
 target audience.  I personally like the fact that the developers added a 
 link to turn sshd on or off, and called it remote access configuration.  
 The launcher hints at the possibility of remote trouble shooting/repairs.  
 This would be a godsend 

Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Tuesday 18 December 2001 11:39 am,Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
snip
. Every single app and frontend worked flawlessly.  Litterally
 less than 20 minutes to a 100% stable 100% functional linux system. 
 Not even a single additional program is needed to
  be totally functional. A great deal of polish went into this distro
 and it shows.

snip

Who can argue with this?  I'll put it on my wife's machine and see if 
she notices the difference between win 98 ;-)  
She and her machine are the ideal crash-test platforms.

-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd rather be sailing
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Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread Lee

Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
 
 ,--- Forwarded message (begin)
 
  Subject: Newbies Prayers Answered (LONG)
  From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 05:50:09 -0500
 
  http://www.redmondlinux.org
 
  I have been following the development of Redmond Linux for a while
 now,
  never actually using it.  I decided to change around my LAN, and figured
  now was as good a time as any to give it a try.   All I can say is wow.
  Flawless install in under 20 minutes on a duron600@1050 abit kt7 256megs,
  generic nic, SBPC 128, tnt2 m64.  If you're frustrated by linux, or are
  thinking about trying it out read on.  This is simply the best option for
  those looking for a windows alternative, or a linux playground/schoolyard.
 
  Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
 Admin: http://linux.nf  Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net
 
 A day without sunshine is like... night.
 
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I tried the beta version about a year ago without the same results.
While the thing installed easily I couldn't get it to run. Whenever I
opened the menu the thing would lockup solid. Was running on a 586
200mmx with 64 meg  of memory. The desktop background was  neat thoufgh.
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Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread kwall

Tony Alfrey wrote:
% 
% Who can argue with this?  I'll put it on my wife's machine and see if 
% she notices the difference between win 98 ;-)  
% She and her machine are the ideal crash-test platforms.

So, are you going to tell your wife you just called her a crash test
dummy? ;-)

Kurt
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impress people.
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Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Tuesday 18 Dec 2001 19:39, Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
 ,--- Forwarded message (begin)

  Subject: Newbies Prayers Answered (LONG)
  From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 05:50:09 -0500

  http://www.redmondlinux.org

  I have been following the development of Redmond Linux for a
 while now,
  never actually using it.  I decided to change around my LAN, and
 figured now was as good a time as any to give it a try.   All I can say
 is wow. Flawless install in under 20 minutes on a duron600@1050 abit
 kt7 256megs, generic nic, SBPC 128, tnt2 m64.  If you're frustrated by
 linux, or are thinking about trying it out read on.  This is simply the
 best option for those looking for a windows alternative, or a linux
 playground/schoolyard.

I downloaded version 43 of this a couple of days ago.  Things to commend 
are the quick install, ext3 filesystem and kautorun (from kdenonbeta, 
hacked by redmond to make it work).

However, after a few hours playing, I decided I didn't like it much.  A 
lot of KDE 2.2.2 is missing and what is there is hard to find.  For 
instance I didn't expect kiconedit to be on the Development menu.  KDE 
has an excellent menu structure, but all the distros mess with it.  
Redmond messes with the icons too, but their icon artist is little better 
than Mandrake's.

Just my £0.02.
-- 
Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ).
Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586
Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin,  XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk.
KDE: 2.2.2.  Qt: 2.3.2.  Uptime 0 hours 30 minutes.
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Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:47:48 -0800
Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 18 December 2001 11:39 am,Douglas J. Hunley wrote:
 snip
 . Every single app and frontend worked flawlessly.  Litterally
  less than 20 minutes to a 100% stable 100% functional linux system. 
  Not even a single additional program is needed to
   be totally functional. A great deal of polish went into this distro
  and it shows.
 
 snip
 
 Who can argue with this?  I'll put it on my wife's machine and see if 
 she notices the difference between win 98 ;-)  
 She and her machine are the ideal crash-test platforms.
===
Please shut down the webcam when she thrashes you.  I hate when that
happens ;o) Seriously, let us know how the experiment turns out.
Mike

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Re: Fwd: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)

2001-12-18 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Tuesday 18 December 2001 05:40 pm,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony Alfrey wrote:
 %
 % Who can argue with this?  I'll put it on my wife's machine and see
 if % she notices the difference between win 98 ;-)
 % She and her machine are the ideal crash-test platforms.

 So, are you going to tell your wife you just called her a crash test
 dummy? ;-)

 Kurt

I think she might prefer to think of herself as the crash-test 
subject.  She uses the blue screen of death as her screen 
saver so that her computer has a consistent look.

-- 
Tony Alfrey
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