Spam Assassin at work

2002-02-13 Thread Leon A. Goldstein

The last two digests I received came equipped with the following:

SPAM:  Start SpamAssassin results
--
SPAM: This mail is probably spam.  The original message has been altered
SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future.
SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
SPAM: 
SPAM: Content analysis details:   (5.27 hits, 5 required)
SPAM: Hit! (1.2 points)  From: does not include a real name
SPAM: Hit! (1 point) Missing Date: header
SPAM: Hit! (1.27 points) BODY: Includes a link to send a mail with a
subject
SPAM: Hit! (1.8 points)  No MX records for the From: domain
SPAM: 
SPAM:  End of SpamAssassin results
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Curiously, a piece of genuine spam that arrived at the same time was not
so tagged.
We have a long way to go... :-(
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Re: spam

2001-12-03 Thread Alan Jackson

On Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:19:03 -0500  David A. Bandel wrote:
 Alan Jackson wrote:
 
  On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:27:18 -0700  Collins Richey wrote:
  
 Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
 eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
 interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
 most frequent correspondents?
 
 
  
  You can't - with complete reliability. If you are more ineterested in the
  topic than is probably healthy, I suggest you join the spam-l and spamtools 
  lists :
  
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20spamtools
  
  http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l
  
  (from someone with an unhealthy obsession...)
  
  I do have perl code for filtering e-mail, poorly documented. 
  
 
 I suggest you try Vipul's Razor.  Works for me.
 http://razor.sourceforge.net/
 

Very timely, I noticed that the first 2 entries on the Perl Advent Calendar
are for filtering e-mail.

http://www.twoshortplanks.com/xmas/
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Re: spam

2001-12-02 Thread Alan Jackson

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:27:18 -0700  Collins Richey wrote:
 Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
 eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
 interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
 most frequent correspondents?
 

You can't - with complete reliability. If you are more ineterested in the
topic than is probably healthy, I suggest you join the spam-l and spamtools 
lists :

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20spamtools

http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l

(from someone with an unhealthy obsession...)

I do have perl code for filtering e-mail, poorly documented. 
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Re: spam

2001-12-02 Thread David A. Bandel

Alan Jackson wrote:

 On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:27:18 -0700  Collins Richey wrote:
 
Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
most frequent correspondents?


 
 You can't - with complete reliability. If you are more ineterested in the
 topic than is probably healthy, I suggest you join the spam-l and spamtools 
 lists :
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe%20spamtools
 
 http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l
 
 (from someone with an unhealthy obsession...)
 
 I do have perl code for filtering e-mail, poorly documented. 
 

I suggest you try Vipul's Razor.  Works for me.
http://razor.sourceforge.net/

Ciao,

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Re: spam

2001-11-30 Thread burns


 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
  eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
  interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
  most frequent correspondents?

It's all spam if it is soliciting fo commercial purposes and you didn't ask 
for it.  Some just may be more palatable than others, depending on your 
taste. Frankly I have trouble dealing with any company that spams. I think it 
says a lot about their ethics and the quality of that business (lack thereof).

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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread Collins Richey

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:29:44 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wednesday 28 November 2001 23:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
  All the spam I get is addressed to my email address.  How would I
 get
  mail that isn't addressed to me?
 
 Gee, why don't you whip up a few of those nifty Sylpheed filters and
 get rid 
 of all your spam?
 
 from the couldn't resist dept:o)
 

Actually, this is what I do.  All of the groups I subscribe to have a
filter to separate folder.  The only thing that shows up in my inbox
is either mail from my sister-in-law, my wife's relatives, or trash. 
Fortunately, I get a max of 2-3 trash mails a day.

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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:03:16 -0700
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Actually, this is what I do.  All of the groups I subscribe to have a
 filter to separate folder.  The only thing that shows up in my inbox
 is either mail from my sister-in-law, my wife's relatives, or trash. 
==
There's a difference  ducks; runs  ;-)
Mike

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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread rickf

Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
 eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
 interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
 most frequent correspondents?

I don't personally have a clue on that one, but I'd love to find a procmail
recipe that can distinguish messages in chinese and dump them to /dev/null.
I'm finding about 30 - 40 pieces of spam a day coming in, mostly from Hong
Kong or Taiwan based on the otherwise hopelessly garbled sender specification.

rickf



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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread Declan Moriarty

On Thursday 29 November 2001 16:54, you wrote:
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
  eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
  interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
  most frequent correspondents?

What bothers me is mail from my usual aquaintances where they have hit Reply 
to all. It's usually 2Mb of a joke, or wry experience with a failed punch 
line, perhaps a bmp, or yards of html which only looks something in Outlook  
(Is that how you spell it?). Wouldn't you like if your computer had this 
button?, or that sort of thing. 

The best answer for that I have discovered to date is to inform them that I 
forgive them their e-mail; not scientific or organised at all.
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spam

2001-11-28 Thread Collins Richey

Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
most frequent correspondents?

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Re: spam

2001-11-28 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 20:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
 Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
 eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
 interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
 most frequent correspondents?

One basic fact that I use is that:   if the email isn't addressed 
specifically to my email address(es), then I consider it spam unless 
qualified some other way...  (such as list mail)

It's doubtful that any friend would send you email addressed to 'undisclosed 
recipients'  or some other bogus  address.



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Re: spam

2001-11-28 Thread Collins Richey

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:21:04 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wednesday 28 November 2001 20:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
  Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
  eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and
 really
  interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known
 and
  most frequent correspondents?
 
 One basic fact that I use is that:   if the email isn't addressed 
 specifically to my email address(es), then I consider it spam unless
 qualified some other way...  (such as list mail)
 
 It's doubtful that any friend would send you email addressed to
 'undisclosed 
 recipients'  or some other bogus  address.
 

All the spam I get is addressed to my email address.  How would I get
mail that isn't addressed to me?

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Re: spam

2001-11-28 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 23:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:21:04 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 November 2001 20:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
   Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
   eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and
 
  really
 
   interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known
 
  and
 
   most frequent correspondents?
 
  One basic fact that I use is that:   if the email isn't addressed
  specifically to my email address(es), then I consider it spam unless
  qualified some other way...  (such as list mail)
 
  It's doubtful that any friend would send you email addressed to
  'undisclosed
  recipients'  or some other bogus  address.

 All the spam I get is addressed to my email address.  How would I get
 mail that isn't addressed to me?

I'm referring to the To:  field.

Here's what the list sent to me:


From: Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yet it gets here probably by the X-RCPT-TO   or some other field in the 
header.   

I wrote a program to scan headers against a spam list:

for the To:   field
for the From: field
for ANY field

The list is pretty simple but the program isn't.   For instance, I toss all   
mail coming from  .kr, .tw, etcand even if someone addresses specifically 
to me, I can TWIT them based on either the FROM field or the ANY catchall.

Works quite well.


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Re: SPAM Denial

2001-11-28 Thread Bill Campbell

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 04:48:50PM -0500, Matthew Carpenter wrote:

I'm looking for a little help turning on blackholing on my email server
(running sendmail).  It looks like the m4 files are there for it, but I am
looking for someone who has implemented it on eS or COL S3.1.  I am running
both.  I'm planning to implement blacklisting as well as procmail to ditch
any additional SPAM or junk mail which are legit but unwanted.

Can't say about sendmail as we're running smail-3.2 with
tcp_wrappers and RBL support.  Postfix appears to have good
support as well.

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Re: Spam filters:Spambouncer

2001-10-02 Thread Zoki

At 21:37 01/10/01 -0400, you wrote:
I just get a sircam virus sent to my linux box. I guess it is time to set up
a mail filter. I came across the following. Looks easy enuf: Works off
procmail.
The SpamBouncer



*** I'm not sure spambouncer is what you need in your case. Try and have a 
look at procmail sanitizer which does a bit of spam bouncing but especially 
sanitizing of mail messages (checking  the attachments for virus messages)

It's a set of procmail rules - so you could add spambouncer later on if you 
need to. It consists of several files each with their particular function. 
The whole setup is initiated by your /etc/procmailrc file.

You can make the config as complicated as you wish. Once setup you don't 
touch the main files, your own local rules or new procmail sanitizing rules 
go in local-rules.procmail. Once a suspicious file has been detected it 
will go to a mailbox assigned by you as the quarantine, renamed to 
whatever.doc.txt. The sanitizer will automatically mail a preformed message 
(found in security-policy.txt) to the sender and/or its ISP.

The setup will take you anything between 2 hours and half a day depending 
on your motivation. It took me half a day because 1/ I WAS motivated ;-) 
and 2/ it works so well you want to make it the most perfect filtering 
setup in the world ;-)))...

The URL is http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/for the download directory.

The main page is under renovation (?) for the last 6 months and one of 
the pages says the filters haven't been updated for the last 2 years (!)...

This might sound as a bad thing, and it probably is for the average user, 
but it's really not a problem. In fact the sanitizer gives you a nice basis 
to start with and with all the procmail resources available on the Net 
you'll be able to put together something that fits your needs.

I've been running the sanitizer for the last 7 months on my mail server and 
I can confirm it works very well. While McAfee and others where trying to 
figure out what was happening I already got several viruses isolated in my 
quarantine mailbox.

Mail me if you need more info...

Zoran.

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Re: Spam filters:Spambouncer

2001-10-02 Thread Zoki

At 21:37 01/10/01 -0400, you wrote:
I just get a sircam virus sent to my linux box. I guess it is time to set up
a mail filter. I came across the following. Looks easy enuf: Works off
procmail.
The SpamBouncer



snip

The URL is http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/ for the download directory.

The main page is under renovation (?) for the last 6 months and one of 
the pages says the filters haven't been updated for the last 2 years (!)...

snip


*** Mail ver. 2. Changelog: typo in the URL... ;-)

Found another URL for the sanitizer and to my surprise there's an august 
2001 update to it.

http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html

I'll informe the webmaster about his contradictory pages.

Zoran

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