[EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Edward Brocklesby
Good evening,

I would like to propose that EPIC change the default value of /SET
AUTO_REJOIN from ON to OFF.  There are several reasons for this:

1) Many users new to IRC will not be aware of AUTO_REJOIN or know how
to change it.  They're more likely to be banned from channels rather
than kicked because of this feature that many channel operators consider
harmful.
2) Generally, IMHO, a client should do the minimum possible amount of
'automatic' things by default.  It's non-intuitive and can cause
confusion or unintended effects (as described above).

Note that this would NOT remove AUTO_REJOIN entirely -- if you want it,
simply add SET AUTO_REJOIN ON to your .epicrc.

So, in the style of Ye Olde EPIC Voting, please mark the correct box:

[ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.
[ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default remain as it is (ON).

Regards,
Edward.

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RE: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Douglas Huff
>So, in the style of Ye Olde EPIC Voting, please mark the correct box:
>
>[X] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.
>[ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default remain as it is (ON).

Signed.

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Re: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Upi Tamminen
Agreed!

This is a change that wouldn't break anything; just a new default value.


[MARK] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.
[] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default remain as it is (ON).
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Re: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Ben Winslow
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 13:29, Edward Brocklesby wrote:

[ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.
[ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default remain as it is (ON).
[x] Correct

But, seriously, I don't care either way--and I do suppose OFF is a
better default.

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Re: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Daniel S
> 
> [X] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.
> [ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default remain as it is (ON).
> 
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Re: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Erlend Bergsås Mikkelsen
I have no idea if I have the right to vote here, but I say epic's
default value should be OFF.

On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:29:25PM +, Edward Brocklesby wrote:
> Good evening,
> 
> I would like to propose that EPIC change the default value of /SET
> AUTO_REJOIN from ON to OFF.  There are several reasons for this:
> 
>   1) Many users new to IRC will not be aware of AUTO_REJOIN or know how
> to change it.  They're more likely to be banned from channels rather
> than kicked because of this feature that many channel operators consider
> harmful.
>   2) Generally, IMHO, a client should do the minimum possible amount of
> 'automatic' things by default.  It's non-intuitive and can cause
> confusion or unintended effects (as described above).
> 
> Note that this would NOT remove AUTO_REJOIN entirely -- if you want it,
> simply add SET AUTO_REJOIN ON to your .epicrc.
> 
> So, in the style of Ye Olde EPIC Voting, please mark the correct box:
> 
> [ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.
> [ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default remain as it is (ON).
> 
> Regards,
> Edward.
> 
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Re: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Edward Brocklesby
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 21:55, Erlend Bergsås Mikkelsen wrote:
> I have no idea if I have the right to vote here

According to hop, everyone has the right to vote :)
I'm no more part of EPIC than you are..

Regards,
Edward.

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Re: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 12:50:22PM -0600, Douglas Huff wrote:
> >[X] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.

seconded.  In particular, i think epics settings WRT auto stuff should
be as conservative as possible.

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Re: [EPIC]CFV: Change of default /SET AUTO_REJOIN value

2003-12-13 Thread Mechael Black
[X] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default changed to OFF.
[ ] I would like to see AUTO_REJOIN's default remain as it is (ON).

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