Re: [IFWP] Were you consulted?
Andrew McLaughlin replied to my similar question: "The selection of the nominating election committees was done by the Board Where was this item placed on the board's agenda? Where is the discussion of these matters by the board recorded? When and where was a vote by the board made? Where is it minuted? Seems to me that in the absence of either open or transparent board operations that I can't put much credence in an assertion that the board did anything. Indeed, backchannel information from board members indicates that the board wasn't really involved at all but, instead, that it was a "staff" decision. In which case, one has to wonder whether the members of the ICANN board realize that as "directors" they have a fiduciary obligation to actually direct the corporation and not let "staff" run amok. --karl--
Re: [IFWP] Were you consulted?
Hi, I am a member of the Western European Membership Implementation Task Force. I was not consulted! Andrew McLaughlin replied to my similar question: "The selection of the nominating election committees was done by the Board. Under the election structure, anybody who can demonstrate a certain minimum degree of support will be able to win a place on the ballot through the self-nomination (what Americans call "petition") process. So there is complete openness through that element of the election structure. There were no rules other than the Board's best collective judgment. The membership of those two committees was always going to be a Board decision. It's step one of a multistep process." However, he did not say anything about consultation. But I am still having unanswered question:"What is a certain minimum of support"? "Does selfnomination result in any disadvantages compared to the nominated candidate?" "Does the nominating committee have any authority to reject selfnominations, even if they show a "certain degree of support"? Date sent: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:01:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[IFWP] Were you consulted? Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you may know, ICANN suddenly announced last week that it has formed Election and Nominating Committees, without any visible public input. The announcement is at http://www.icann.org/announcements/icann-pr09may00.htm . Commentary suggesting that there were a few flaws in the process can be found at http://www.icannwatch.org In response to this criticism, ICANN CEO Mike Roberts is quoted in today's New York Times as saying that "Icann directors and staff worked hard to consult widely in the process of forming these committees," http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/05/cyber/capital/16capital.html . As far as I can tell, no one I know was consulted, and am I in touch with a lot of people interested in ICANN. My suspicion is that if ICANN did engage in consultations at all they were limited to participants in the late gTLD-MOU and/or representatives of large corporations. In order to test this intuition, I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who was actually consulted by ICANN prior to this announcement, whatever their affiliation. [This message is being cross-posted widely; please feel free to circulate as appropriate until May 25, 2000] -- A. Michael Froomkin |Professor of Law| [EMAIL PROTECTED] U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA +1 (305) 284-4285 | +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) | http://www.law.tm --It's warm here.--
[IFWP] Were you consulted?
As you may know, ICANN suddenly announced last week that it has formed Election and Nominating Committees, without any visible public input. The announcement is at http://www.icann.org/announcements/icann-pr09may00.htm . Commentary suggesting that there were a few flaws in the process can be found at http://www.icannwatch.org In response to this criticism, ICANN CEO Mike Roberts is quoted in today's New York Times as saying that "Icann directors and staff worked hard to consult widely in the process of forming these committees," http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/05/cyber/capital/16capital.html . As far as I can tell, no one I know was consulted, and am I in touch with a lot of people interested in ICANN. My suspicion is that if ICANN did engage in consultations at all they were limited to participants in the late gTLD-MOU and/or representatives of large corporations. In order to test this intuition, I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who was actually consulted by ICANN prior to this announcement, whatever their affiliation. [This message is being cross-posted widely; please feel free to circulate as appropriate until May 25, 2000] -- A. Michael Froomkin |Professor of Law| [EMAIL PROTECTED] U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA +1 (305) 284-4285 | +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) | http://www.law.tm --It's warm here.--
Re: [IFWP] Were you consulted?
I was not consulted either. I suspect Mike Roberts means that he consulted the same people who put him in office ;-) Jay. At 10:01 AM 5/16/00, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote: As you may know, ICANN suddenly announced last week that it has formed Election and Nominating Committees, without any visible public input. The announcement is at http://www.icann.org/announcements/icann-pr09may00.htm . Commentary suggesting that there were a few flaws in the process can be found at http://www.icannwatch.org In response to this criticism, ICANN CEO Mike Roberts is quoted in today's New York Times as saying that "Icann directors and staff worked hard to consult widely in the process of forming these committees," http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/05/cyber/capital/16capital.html . As far as I can tell, no one I know was consulted, and am I in touch with a lot of people interested in ICANN. My suspicion is that if ICANN did engage in consultations at all they were limited to participants in the late gTLD-MOU and/or representatives of large corporations. In order to test this intuition, I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who was actually consulted by ICANN prior to this announcement, whatever their affiliation. [This message is being cross-posted widely; please feel free to circulate as appropriate until May 25, 2000] -- A. Michael Froomkin |Professor of Law| [EMAIL PROTECTED] U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA +1 (305) 284-4285 | +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) | http://www.law.tm --It's warm here.-- Respectfully, Jay Fenello, New Media Strategies http://www.fenello.com 770-392-9480 Aligning with Purpose(sm) ... for a Better World "If we want to change the world, we have to begin by changing ourselves" -- Deepak Chopra
Re: [IFWP] Were you consulted?
They didn't consult me - and they were warned in Cairo that would be a bad thing. Regards Joe Baptista On Tue, 16 May 2000, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote: As you may know, ICANN suddenly announced last week that it has formed Election and Nominating Committees, without any visible public input. The announcement is at http://www.icann.org/announcements/icann-pr09may00.htm . Commentary suggesting that there were a few flaws in the process can be found at http://www.icannwatch.org In response to this criticism, ICANN CEO Mike Roberts is quoted in today's New York Times as saying that "Icann directors and staff worked hard to consult widely in the process of forming these committees," http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/05/cyber/capital/16capital.html . As far as I can tell, no one I know was consulted, and am I in touch with a lot of people interested in ICANN. My suspicion is that if ICANN did engage in consultations at all they were limited to participants in the late gTLD-MOU and/or representatives of large corporations. In order to test this intuition, I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who was actually consulted by ICANN prior to this announcement, whatever their affiliation. [This message is being cross-posted widely; please feel free to circulate as appropriate until May 25, 2000] -- A. Michael Froomkin |Professor of Law| [EMAIL PROTECTED] U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA +1 (305) 284-4285 | +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) | http://www.law.tm --It's warm here.--
