Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN
At 07:17 PM 9/10/99 -0400, David Farber wrote: >At 2:20 PM -0700 9/10/99, Greg Skinner wrote: >>It strikes me that Farber is not so much defending ICANN (as it currently >>exists) as he is defending *the process* by which there can be Internet >>self-governance. If ICANN (as it currently exists) falls, the process may >>fall as well. Then we might very well be subject to laws that are the >>result of the laissez-faire regulatory policies governments like the US >>seem to employ that favor big businesses. >> >>--gregbo > >Many thanks, yes yes yes Gimme a break. I've watched IAHC fail for not being this very thing, I've watched IFWP try real hard to be just this then get scuttled by the IANA Cabal who are now ICANN and who will fail for the same reasons - it is not legitimate, open, transparent or representative of more than a couple of hundred poeple. The failure of ICANN is proof the process works. -- "So foul a sky clears not without a storm" - Shakespeare
Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN
This is my concern also. Or some remote NGO. Diane Cabell http://www.mama-tech.com Fausett, Gaeta & Lund Boston - Original Message - From: Greg Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN > It strikes me that Farber is not so much defending ICANN (as it currently > exists) as he is defending *the process* by which there can be Internet > self-governance. If ICANN (as it currently exists) falls, the process may > fall as well. Then we might very well be subject to laws that are the > result of the laissez-faire regulatory policies governments like the US > seem to employ that favor big businesses. > > --gregbo >
Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN
Tony Rutkowski wrote: > Greg Skinner wrote: >>Then we might very well be subject to laws that are the result of the >>laissez-faire regulatory policies governments like the US seem to employ >>that favor big businesses. > Like what? Auction of spectrum to cellular phone companies, for example.
Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN
Tony and all, A.M. Rutkowski wrote: > At 05:20 PM 9/10/99 , Greg Skinner wrote: > >fall as well. Then we might very well be subject to laws that are the > >result of the laissez-faire regulatory policies governments like the US > >seem to employ that favor big businesses. > > Like what? > > Even the telecom industry doesn't have anything as pathetic > and wrong-headed as ICANN-GAC. True, but it doesn't mean they couldn't invent something... > > > The "process" we're dealing with here is in fact something > cooked up within the Beltway and whatever encircles Brussels. "Encircles"! Good word. Did I ever tell you the story/joke about the "Circle-fly"? If not let me know, I fill you in off list. Brussels and Geneva fit the scenario... >;) > > > --tony Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN
At 05:20 PM 9/10/99 , Greg Skinner wrote: >fall as well. Then we might very well be subject to laws that are the >result of the laissez-faire regulatory policies governments like the US >seem to employ that favor big businesses. Like what? Even the telecom industry doesn't have anything as pathetic and wrong-headed as ICANN-GAC. The "process" we're dealing with here is in fact something cooked up within the Beltway and whatever encircles Brussels. --tony
Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN
Greg and all, I don't find or see a great possibility of what you say Farber is saying will happen. It is possible yes, but highly improbable given that the USG has failed so many times already and a major election is in the offing soon. Hence there is plenty of time for another stab at all this, be it through a revamped ICANN or something else. The EU may be the only major stumbling block however... Greg Skinner wrote: > It strikes me that Farber is not so much defending ICANN (as it currently > exists) as he is defending *the process* by which there can be Internet > self-governance. If ICANN (as it currently exists) falls, the process may > fall as well. Then we might very well be subject to laws that are the > result of the laissez-faire regulatory policies governments like the US > seem to employ that favor big businesses. > > --gregbo Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
Re: [IFWP] please give us substance and not assertions Re: November Cook Report - intro and part 1 ISOC's critical role in enabling ICANN
It strikes me that Farber is not so much defending ICANN (as it currently exists) as he is defending *the process* by which there can be Internet self-governance. If ICANN (as it currently exists) falls, the process may fall as well. Then we might very well be subject to laws that are the result of the laissez-faire regulatory policies governments like the US seem to employ that favor big businesses. --gregbo
