Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-05-01 Thread Seth Mos
On 29-4-2013 16:01, j...@millican.us wrote:
 On 4/29/2013 9:35 AM, j...@millican.us wrote:
 Hello,

 Thank You,
 JohnM
 Forgot to add that I have been looking at the Buffalo WZR-300HP. Any
 opinions?

We almost exclusively use Draytek Vigor routers with IPsec tunnels and
pfSense. We use Dell PowerEdge R310 servers as the endpoint.

We have about 300 tunnels, we always had the Draytek Vigor 2800VGI
model, but are now moving forward with the Draytek Vigor 2850 model, it
is a ADSL/VSDL combo modem, supports 3G/4G via USB stick (We use the
Huawei E392) and also Ethernet WAN using port 4 of the gigabit LAN ports.

It's a very versatile model.

Regards,

Seth
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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-05-01 Thread Jeremy Bennett
I can’t speak to the advanced routing and traffic shaping stuff, but Alix + 
PFsense have been great for me. IPSec VPNs between multiple locations have been 
very reliable.

On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Seth Mos wrote:

 On 29-4-2013 16:01, j...@millican.us wrote:
 On 4/29/2013 9:35 AM, j...@millican.us wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Thank You,
 JohnM
 Forgot to add that I have been looking at the Buffalo WZR-300HP. Any
 opinions?
 
 We almost exclusively use Draytek Vigor routers with IPsec tunnels and
 pfSense. We use Dell PowerEdge R310 servers as the endpoint.
 
 We have about 300 tunnels, we always had the Draytek Vigor 2800VGI
 model, but are now moving forward with the Draytek Vigor 2850 model, it
 is a ADSL/VSDL combo modem, supports 3G/4G via USB stick (We use the
 Huawei E392) and also Ethernet WAN using port 4 of the gigabit LAN ports.
 
 It's a very versatile model.
 
 Regards,
 
 Seth
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[pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread j...@millican.us

Hello,
I have a task to connect a number of small/home offices via VPN (OpenVPN 
is preferred but could be IPSEC) to a central location that has a 
pfSense box as its FW/Router.  Does anyone have any recommendations 
based on their personal experiences as to which brands/models to look at 
first? I know I could get any number if open source based routers and 
load DD-WRT but am hoping to limit the number of steps needed as there 
could potential be  Yes I know I am being lazy and hoping to avoid the 
many hours of research by asking here.  I have been Google 'ing but 
getting mostly marketing mumbo jumbo and not a much related real world 
experience.
Also what are the limits related to how many OpenVPN, or IPSEC, tunnels 
I can connect to a relatively well spec 'ed pfSense box? I.E 2.2 GHz 
Opteron 4122, 4GB Ram, Supermicro (intel based) Gigabyte network cards.  
I can easily add bandwidth as I add tunnels so that is not a limiting 
factor in itself.  Each tunnel will be routed to a specific single 
server behind the firewall.


Thank You,
JohnM
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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread j...@millican.us

On 4/29/2013 9:35 AM, j...@millican.us wrote:

Hello,
I have a task to connect a number of small/home offices via VPN 
(OpenVPN is preferred but could be IPSEC) to a central location that 
has a pfSense box as its FW/Router.  Does anyone have any 
recommendations based on their personal experiences as to which 
brands/models to look at first? I know I could get any number if open 
source based routers and load DD-WRT but am hoping to limit the number 
of steps needed as there could potential be  Yes I know I am being 
lazy and hoping to avoid the many hours of research by asking here.  I 
have been Google 'ing but getting mostly marketing mumbo jumbo and not 
a much related real world experience.
Also what are the limits related to how many OpenVPN, or IPSEC, 
tunnels I can connect to a relatively well spec 'ed pfSense box? I.E 
2.2 GHz Opteron 4122, 4GB Ram, Supermicro (intel based) Gigabyte 
network cards.  I can easily add bandwidth as I add tunnels so that is 
not a limiting factor in itself.  Each tunnel will be routed to a 
specific single server behind the firewall.


Thank You,
JohnM
Forgot to add that I have been looking at the Buffalo WZR-300HP. Any 
opinions?

Thanks again,
JohnM
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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread Zach Underwood
What is the speed for the internet connect and what speed will be going
over the vpn. Take a look at this
http://www.pfsense.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=52Itemid=49.
That amd server should be able to handle almost any internet connect you
are using.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:01 AM, j...@millican.us j...@millican.us wrote:

 On 4/29/2013 9:35 AM, j...@millican.us wrote:

 Hello,
 I have a task to connect a number of small/home offices via VPN (OpenVPN
 is preferred but could be IPSEC) to a central location that has a pfSense
 box as its FW/Router.  Does anyone have any recommendations based on their
 personal experiences as to which brands/models to look at first? I know I
 could get any number if open source based routers and load DD-WRT but am
 hoping to limit the number of steps needed as there could potential be  Yes
 I know I am being lazy and hoping to avoid the many hours of research by
 asking here.  I have been Google 'ing but getting mostly marketing mumbo
 jumbo and not a much related real world experience.
 Also what are the limits related to how many OpenVPN, or IPSEC, tunnels I
 can connect to a relatively well spec 'ed pfSense box? I.E 2.2 GHz Opteron
 4122, 4GB Ram, Supermicro (intel based) Gigabyte network cards.  I can
 easily add bandwidth as I add tunnels so that is not a limiting factor in
 itself.  Each tunnel will be routed to a specific single server behind the
 firewall.

 Thank You,
 JohnM

 Forgot to add that I have been looking at the Buffalo WZR-300HP. Any
 opinions?
 Thanks again,
 JohnM
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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I haven't done VPN using them, but I have extreme reliability from DIR-825
with DD-WRT.



On 29 April 2013 16:35, j...@millican.us j...@millican.us wrote:

 Hello,
 I have a task to connect a number of small/home offices via VPN (OpenVPN
 is preferred but could be IPSEC) to a central location that has a pfSense
 box as its FW/Router.  Does anyone have any recommendations based on their
 personal experiences as to which brands/models to look at first? I know I
 could get any number if open source based routers and load DD-WRT but am
 hoping to limit the number of steps needed as there could potential be  Yes
 I know I am being lazy and hoping to avoid the many hours of research by
 asking here.  I have been Google 'ing but getting mostly marketing mumbo
 jumbo and not a much related real world experience.
 Also what are the limits related to how many OpenVPN, or IPSEC, tunnels I
 can connect to a relatively well spec 'ed pfSense box? I.E 2.2 GHz Opteron
 4122, 4GB Ram, Supermicro (intel based) Gigabyte network cards.  I can
 easily add bandwidth as I add tunnels so that is not a limiting factor in
 itself.  Each tunnel will be routed to a specific single server behind the
 firewall.

 Thank You,
 JohnM
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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Bagnall

On 29/4/13 2:35 pm, j...@millican.us wrote:

I have a task to connect a number of small/home offices via VPN (OpenVPN
is preferred but could be IPSEC) to a central location that has a
pfSense box as its FW/Router.  Does anyone have any recommendations
based on their personal experiences as to which brands/models to look at
first?


Honestly, your best best is to use pfSense to connect to another pfSense.

I've spent goodness knows how many hours over the last few years trying 
to persuade various Netgear, Draytek, Buffalo, etc. etc. routers to talk 
to pfSense, and it's just not worth the hassle. Stick a litle embedded 
pfSense at each remote location (ALIX boards are an economical choice) 
and it'll Just Work (TM).


Kind regards,

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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread David Burgess
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Chris Bagnall
pfse...@lists.minotaur.ccwrote:

 On 29/4/13 2:35 pm, j...@millican.us wrote:

 I have a task to connect a number of small/home offices via VPN (OpenVPN
 is preferred but could be IPSEC) to a central location that has a
 pfSense box as its FW/Router.  Does anyone have any recommendations
 based on their personal experiences as to which brands/models to look at
 first?


 Honestly, your best best is to use pfSense to connect to another pfSense.

 I've spent goodness knows how many hours over the last few years trying to
 persuade various Netgear, Draytek, Buffalo, etc. etc. routers to talk to
 pfSense, and it's just not worth the hassle. Stick a litle embedded pfSense
 at each remote location (ALIX boards are an economical choice) and it'll
 Just Work (TM).



It could just be my own ignorance, but I have had little success trying to
connect a pair of pfsense firewalls via OpenVPN. On the other hand, I had
little trouble connecting an instance of pfsense to a Tomato router, with
the former acting as OpenVPN client.

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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread master8...@aol.com

On 4/29/2013 12:11 PM, David Burgess wrote:
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Chris Bagnall 
pfse...@lists.minotaur.cc mailto:pfse...@lists.minotaur.cc wrote:


On 29/4/13 2:35 pm, j...@millican.us mailto:j...@millican.us wrote:

I have a task to connect a number of small/home offices via
VPN (OpenVPN
is preferred but could be IPSEC) to a central location that has a
pfSense box as its FW/Router.  Does anyone have any
recommendations
based on their personal experiences as to which brands/models
to look at
first?


Honestly, your best best is to use pfSense to connect to another
pfSense.

I've spent goodness knows how many hours over the last few years
trying to persuade various Netgear, Draytek, Buffalo, etc. etc.
routers to talk to pfSense, and it's just not worth the hassle.
Stick a litle embedded pfSense at each remote location (ALIX
boards are an economical choice) and it'll Just Work (TM).



It could just be my own ignorance, but I have had little success 
trying to connect a pair of pfsense firewalls via OpenVPN. On the 
other hand, I had little trouble connecting an instance of pfsense to 
a Tomato router, with the former acting as OpenVPN client.


db



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Seriously, these days it is SUPER simple to setup OpenVPN and use OSPF 
to route. Take a look around the wiki and forum and there are step by 
step directions posted. The M1n1wall's from netgate are my go-to branch 
office appliances.


The only downside I have seen with pfSense in a setup like this is its 
inability to traffic shape the vpn. Say you have voice and data, the 
best thing I was able to accomplish was a separate openvpn tunnel for 
each type and then prioritizing the port that was being used for the 
voice tunnel. You can't get granular control like you can with a few 
other vendors (that cost a lot more).


Jonathon


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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Bagnall

On 29/4/13 5:11 pm, David Burgess wrote:

It could just be my own ignorance, but I have had little success trying to
connect a pair of pfsense firewalls via OpenVPN.


Really? I must admit it's always Just Worked for me (even going across 
versions, e.g. 1.2 to 2.0). Far easier than trying to persuade a Netgear 
to talk IPSec to pfSense.


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Re: [pfSense] SOHO Router for VPN to pfSense

2013-04-29 Thread David Burgess
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Chris Bagnall
pfse...@lists.minotaur.ccwrote:

 On 29/4/13 5:11 pm, David Burgess wrote:

 It could just be my own ignorance, but I have had little success trying to
 connect a pair of pfsense firewalls via OpenVPN.


 Really? I must admit it's always Just Worked for me (even going across
 versions, e.g. 1.2 to 2.0). Far easier than trying to persuade a Netgear to
 talk IPSec to pfSense.


Yeah, setting it up was easy (both were running 2.0.1 or 2.0.2 IIRC). I
arranged a pair of windows on the screen with one instance on the left and
the other on the right. I made all the appropriate settings to match and
then saved...nothing. I didn't spend a lot of time troubleshooting, so I
don't remember specifically what went wrong.

Based on other comments here, I guess the problem was probably just me :P

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