[REBOL] Rolling your own ideal looper: does Repeat still have a bug? Re:(6)
Hi, > Ladislav, > > That is an impressive For function! > your example of using > >a: [1 2] > >for s a tail a 1 [print s] > as a test is very amusing bug, looks > like an infinite loop on windows, just > keeps printing newlines without ever ending. > > Just for kicks, I just tried this: > >> for s a back tail a 1 [print s] > 1 2 > 2 > > so that it stops at the last real position, > and that seemed to work, althout the expression > is more awkward and wordy! > > Your other example is this: > >> for s a next a -1 [print s] > 1 2 > > which I am not sure I get. > This would never get to next a by skipping -1. > Either you have a typo here, or I missed the point. > Simple, For should stop immediately as for integers, because it is already behind the limit. > If this were integers, it would look like > for x = 1 30 step -1 > > >> for s a next a 1 [print s] > 1 2 > 2 > > What is the proper behavior of > >> for s a next a -1 [print s] > ??? > > -Galt > > p.s. As far as the second-class vs. first-class values > goes, I am inclined to agree with you. There are some > fishy issues that don't seem entirely cooked. You are > right to bring them up for discussion. So far, however, > in the programs that have come up naturally in my > use of Rebol, I haven't been banging into these issues > alot. I have seen the errorhandling stuff e.g. try, disarm > seems like it's more awkward than it should be. > I could run smack into more of them at any moment, > though! > > p.p.s. I think the desire to share Rebol data and > objects across the net between two instances of rebol.exe, > or storing them and retrieving them later in native Rebol format, > will come up strongly in the near future. > Even the RebMail program might be a lot simpler if > you could just save your mail objects and reload later. > Having to create extra functions for converting from > Rebol to some other disk structure and then back > again is a pain. I think Rebol can do better. > It just needs to make a few new tricks available... > You are right with data saving - even data copying in Rebol may be an unsolvable problem.
[REBOL] Compress. What is REBOL's algorithm? Re:
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: [REBOL] Compress. What is REBOL's algorithm? > What compression algorithm does REBOL use with > ? Given this, know any good on-line sources > for that algorithm? > > it is zlib http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/zlib/ Cheers, Allen K
[REBOL] View/VID prebeta 5 is worth trying
A new REBOL/View is posted in http://www.rebol.com/xpers/xpers.html. This one is quite interesting because it contains many changes to VID. It also has a test panel built-in to help you find tests without a hassle. In addition, you can add your own test site to the panel... so the rest of us can try out your scripts! Links are added on a first come first serve basis, so reserve your spot in history by adding your site link soon. Click on the What's Up icon for more info about the release. CONVERTING SCRIPTS: -- Most VID scripts can be converted by knowing that: 1) STYLIZE has changed. It now takes a line similar to a LAYOUT. Examples: stylesheet: stylize [ red-btn: button red big-btn: button 200x40 big-red-img-button: button red 200x40 %bay.jpg center-txt: txt center font-size 16 ] To quickly convert, you can use STYLIZ (no E)... which is the old function. But, note that it will be vanishing soon. 2) Use face/data field for accessing the data of a VID face. For instance, to print the choice made on a rotary button, you would write: r: rotary "breakfast" "lunch" "dinner" [print first r/data] This is true with all styles. Note the multiple facets allowed for rotary here. Try: r: rotary "go" green "stop" red "yield" yellow or r: rotary "go" "stop" "yield" green red yellow This is good stuff. Makes VID now the most powerful user interface language ever created. Tell a friend. 3) There are many new styles. For instance, TXT, H1, H2, H3, etc. will give you document face styles (black text without shadows). CREATING A TEST SITE I want you to create your own test site, even if you only have one VID script. REBOL needs you. It's important. And, it's fun too. Here's how to create a site: 1) Create a file called index.r in the format: REBOL [] icon "Big Test" %bigtest.r icon "Image" %photo.jpg icon "Link" %docs.html icon "Reply" %replier.r image %myicon.jpg icon "Files" dir %index2.r ; links to another index file 2) Upload the file and any scripts/images to your website. 3) Publish your test site by using the "Add a Site" icon in View (found on the REBOL site page in the sites directory). Give the URL for your index.r file. You can provide an icon for your site as well. 4) Verify that it works, then tell us about it here on the list. 5) Write a lot of scripts and add them to your site. OTHER DOCS -- I have a much better VID document nearly ready. Watch for it to appear in View under the REBOL site. There are also entirely new CORE chapters to be published very soon. FEEDBACK Feedback has never been easier. Click on the feedback icon. GO FOR IT - I need your help... REBOL needs your help. Now is the time to go for it. Start working on REBOL view scripts today. Publish them toay on your site or on someone else's site. Tell your friends about REBOL. Tell your press contacts about REBOL. Get them helping out. The time for REBOL is now. -Carl
[REBOL] Multimedia quality (was) One disk OS + REBOL Re:(11)
Hi Bo, > I believe that was the Akiko chip, but I think it required a special > hardware call to perform the conversion. Hence, I would be surprised > if you would see a speed increase on the CD32 unless REBOL/View was > modified to make that call when running on the CD32. > > Once again, Holger probably knows more about this than I do. I don't think the Akiko chip can handle 32 bit per pixel chunky pixel format, just 8 bits per chunky pixel (palette based). Julian Kinraid
[REBOL] Compress. What is REBOL's algorithm?
What compression algorithm does REBOL use with ? Given this, know any good on-line sources for that algorithm?
[REBOL] Encryption with REBOL
With the recent talk about encryption I thought I'd send along this little script. For details read the header. PLEASE READ THE HEADER OF THIS SCRIPT BEFORE USE! It will send and receive encrypted email, and encrypt or decrypt any file. I consider it beta, and would appreciate any feedback. Any one who uses it may modify it, but please email me with a copy of your enhancements. I retain all my rights of original authorship on this script, but make no claims as to it's use. __ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup cipher-beta.r
[REBOL] Challenging script idea Re:(4)
Well, there is the trivial case of identical source, assuming that it is run in the same context. This is interesting! Could you please elaborate? Isn't checking to see if two different programs are doing "the same thing" rather difficult for all but the dullest cases, in practically any programming language? -Galt >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = >Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]! > >On 30-Ago-00, you wrote: > > g> And since one can look at > g> the template of any defined function at run time, it > g> seems possible to determine which tokens have > g> significance in a context, and which have none or > g> less. Sort of like being able to determine that "the > g> names have been changed to protect the innocent", but > g> the story's the same. What dost thou think? > >If you want to determine if two scripts are doing the same thing, >you'd at least have to simulate their execution. That is, you >can't determine that by just statically analyzing REBOL code. > >If you really find a way to do so, then you've found a way to >compile REBOL code. > >Regards, >Gabriele. >-- >Gabriele Santilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer >Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
[REBOL] Rolling your own ideal looper: does Repeat still have a bug? Re:(5)
Ladislav,
That is an impressive For function!
your example of using
>a: [1 2]
>for s a tail a 1 [print s]
as a test is very amusing bug, looks
like an infinite loop on windows, just
keeps printing newlines without ever ending.
Just for kicks, I just tried this:
>> for s a back tail a 1 [print s]
1 2
2
so that it stops at the last real position,
and that seemed to work, althout the expression
is more awkward and wordy!
Your other example is this:
>> for s a next a -1 [print s]
1 2
which I am not sure I get.
This would never get to next a by skipping -1.
Either you have a typo here, or I missed the point.
If this were integers, it would look like
for x = 1 30 step -1
>> for s a next a 1 [print s]
1 2
2
What is the proper behavior of
>> for s a next a -1 [print s]
???
-Galt
p.s. As far as the second-class vs. first-class values
goes, I am inclined to agree with you. There are some
fishy issues that don't seem entirely cooked. You are
right to bring them up for discussion. So far, however,
in the programs that have come up naturally in my
use of Rebol, I haven't been banging into these issues
alot. I have seen the errorhandling stuff e.g. try, disarm
seems like it's more awkward than it should be.
I could run smack into more of them at any moment,
though!
p.p.s. I think the desire to share Rebol data and
objects across the net between two instances of rebol.exe,
or storing them and retrieving them later in native Rebol format,
will come up strongly in the near future.
Even the RebMail program might be a lot simpler if
you could just save your mail objects and reload later.
Having to create extra functions for converting from
Rebol to some other disk structure and then back
again is a pain. I think Rebol can do better.
It just needs to make a few new tricks available...
>= Original Message From "Ladislav Mecir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>2. For loop. Here is my version working properly for series (just
>a minor improvement):
>
>Nobody uses For to traverse a series, I guess. OTOH, the
>implementation of For should be correct.
>
>; Example of incorrect behaviour:
>a: [1 2]
>for s a tail a 1 [print s]
>for s a next a -1 [print s]
>
>My correction:
>
>for: func [
>{Repeats a block over a range of values.}
>[catch throw]
>'word [word!] {Variable to hold current value}
>start [number! series! money! time! date! char!] {Starting
>value}
>end [number! series! money! time! date! char!] {Ending value}
>bump [number! money! time! char!] {Amount to skip each time}
>body [block!] {Block to evaluate}
>/local result do-body op cond
>][
>if (type? start) <> (type? end) [
>throw make error! reduce ['script 'expect-arg 'for 'end
>type? start]
>]
>do-body: func reduce [[throw] word] body
>op: either positive? bump [:greater-or-equal?][
>:lesser-or-equal?
>]
>either series? start [
>if not same? head start head end [
>throw make error! reduce ['script 'invalid-arg end]
>]
>cond: op index? end index? start
>while [cond] [
>set/any 'result do-body start
>cond: op index? end (index? start) + bump
>start: skip start bump
>]
>] [
>while [op end start] [
>set/any 'result do-body start
>start: start + bump
>]
>]
>get/any 'result
>]
>
[REBOL] Rolling your own ideal looper: does Repeat still have a bug? Re:(5)
Hello, Ladislav, >It is telling For, that instead >of taking Exit as a signal for itself to exit, it must throw it >further (to F). I think I either don't understand the problem properly, or else RT heard you and corrected the problem already. When I tried to do f: does [print "Hello" for i 1 10 1 [exit] print "You won't see this"] and run it, it exits f properly. I am assuming that in an old version it would exit the for loop and keep running, so that the user would in fact see: >>f You won't see this Is that the case? If so, RT has fixed it in my View and Core, which are 09931 and 23031 respectively. I may be all wet here, but if they have fixed it, it is probably in part due to your hard-won research and reporting of the problem. -Galt >= Original Message From "Ladislav Mecir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Not exactly. The problem is, what can be considered a Rebol bug. > >1. Exit/Return: the normal behaviour is, that any function >encountering Exit takes it as an instrunction for itself to exit >like: > >f: does [print "Hello" exit print "You won't see this"] > >The "problem" is, that some functions like For, Forskip, Foreach, >Forall, While, Repeat, Loop, Any, All, If, Either, ... take a >Rebol code as their Block argument (or whatever name they use for >it). Now an example: > >f: does [print "Hello" for i 1 10 1 [exit] print "You won't >see this"] > >Here the function encountering the Exit you see on the line is not >F as you might think at first, but For. For this code to work >"properly", For shall know, that the Exit it encountered is meant >as a signal for another function (F in this case). That's the >reason d'etre for Throw attribute. It is telling For, that instead >of taking Exit as a signal for itself to exit, it must throw it >further (to F). > >So, once again: Throw is a Carl's solution of the "foreign >Return/Exit" problem and you should use it whenever you program >your own "Rebol control functions" ie. the functions that take >Rebol code blocks and interpret them. > >FYI: there is a similar problem of "foreign Break", that remains >unsolved. (I found a work-around, when I programmed >www.rebol.org/general/pif.r). >
[REBOL] PGP encryption from REBOL Re:(2)
And of course decrypts... --Ryan decrypts.r
[REBOL] Challenging script idea Re:(6)
Howdy, Sterling: > If it's a GPF that takes down the universe, you would be > implying that we're all living in MS Universe 2000 or > something like that. Maybe that's why we die, eh? It's a > bug in the system. That theory sounds as good as any to me -- or maybe a bus error in the brain. If Microsoft created the universe, then we all know that there could be no heaven. "Welcome to heaven, click the start button to begin." Sounds like hell to me. -jeff
[REBOL] Multimedia quality (was) One disk OS + REBOL Re:(10)
Steve, I believe that was the Akiko chip, but I think it required a special hardware call to perform the conversion. Hence, I would be surprised if you would see a speed increase on the CD32 unless REBOL/View was modified to make that call when running on the CD32. Once again, Holger probably knows more about this than I do. Take care! -Bo On 28-Aug-2000/8:27:14-5:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I think the CD32 had a special chip (HP or ?) which did chunky to >planar. >So maybe Rebol runs cool on CD32...I will have to give that a spin and >see. > >Thanks for the explanation, >Steve Shireman -- Bohdan "Bo" Lechnowsky REBOL Adventure Guide REBOL Technologies 707-467-8000 (http://www.rebol.com) Download the REBOL Messaging Language The Official Source for REBOL Books (http://www.REBOLpress.com)
[REBOL] PGP encryption from REBOL Re:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi I would like ... rephrase that: In order to impress my higher-ups, I MUST >demonstrate the ability of REBOL to encrypt a file and ftp it to a host. I can handle >the FTP part. > > Vis-a-vis the PGP part, from Perl we were making system calls to a PGP binary. But >REBOL does appear to make system calls. > PGP system calls? sounds like a job for /Command. Otherwise if you just want to show off your encryption capabilities, use the attached scripts. Encryption is very slow though, and decryption could kill you, although the routine is not optimized at all. Maybe you could speed it up. Its not PGP, but it does have the nice feature of dialing in your level of protection--if your willing to wait. --Ryan Ryan Cole Programmer Analyst www.iesco-dms.com 707-468-5400 encrypts.r make-crypt.r
[REBOL] Challenging script idea Re:(5)
If it's a GPF that takes down the universe, you would be implying that we're all living in MS Universe 2000 or something like that. Maybe that's why we die, eh? It's a bug in the system. Sterling > Actually, I think one can make a stronger statement. I suspect > (without spending many brain-cycles on it) that the GENERAL > question "Does function f1 do the same thing as function f2?" > is formally unsolvable, in the same way that the halting problem > has no general solution. > > If you can really find a way to do so, you'll cause a general > protection fault that will crash the universe. ;-) > > -jn- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > If you want to determine if two scripts are doing the same thing, > > you'd at least have to simulate their execution. That is, you > > can't determine that by just statically analyzing REBOL code. > > > > If you really find a way to do so, then you've found a way to > > compile REBOL code. > > > > Regards, > > Gabriele. > > -- > > Gabriele Santilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer > > Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
[REBOL] Challenging script idea Re:(4)
Actually, I think one can make a stronger statement. I suspect (without spending many brain-cycles on it) that the GENERAL question "Does function f1 do the same thing as function f2?" is formally unsolvable, in the same way that the halting problem has no general solution. If you can really find a way to do so, you'll cause a general protection fault that will crash the universe. ;-) -jn- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... > > If you want to determine if two scripts are doing the same thing, > you'd at least have to simulate their execution. That is, you > can't determine that by just statically analyzing REBOL code. > > If you really find a way to do so, then you've found a way to > compile REBOL code. > > Regards, > Gabriele. > -- > Gabriele Santilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer > Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
[REBOL] Re: Is REBOL interpreted or byte-compiled?
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]! On 29-Ago-00, you wrote: p> Is REBOL interpreted or byte-compiled? It is interpreted. Compiling REBOL is virtually impossibile, unless you want to do some magic (but that wouldn't be very fast, I think). p> The reason I ask this is I see get word called 800,000 times p> below and I hope that each invocation does not incur the p> overhead of a function call. Well, SOURCE isn't certainly a critical function. :-) Anyway, you could use the following "optimized" version if you really want to. source: func [ "Prints the source code for a word." 'word [word!] ][ prin join word ": " if not value? word [print "undefined" exit] word: get word either any [native? :word op? :word action? :word] [ print ["native" mold third :word] ] [print mold :word] ] Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
[REBOL] Re: Challenging script idea Re:(2)
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]! On 30-Ago-00, you wrote: g> And since one can look at g> the template of any defined function at run time, it g> seems possible to determine which tokens have g> significance in a context, and which have none or g> less. Sort of like being able to determine that "the g> names have been changed to protect the innocent", but g> the story's the same. What dost thou think? If you want to determine if two scripts are doing the same thing, you'd at least have to simulate their execution. That is, you can't determine that by just statically analyzing REBOL code. If you really find a way to do so, then you've found a way to compile REBOL code. Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
[REBOL] /deep versus /only Re:
Just to throw in some more commentary from "the boys" :-) : The /only refinement is used for more than just referring to nested blocks. It means to consider the item in question as a single series type, instead of as a bunch of separate items. Change/only means to apply the changes as a single series, and not as individual items, for example: >> ser: ["str1" "str2" "str3"] >> change ser [1 2] >> ser == [1 2 "str3"] ;-- CHANGE took the 1 and 2 and applied the change ; to ser like two separate changes. >> ser: ["str1" "str2" "str3"] >> change/only ser [1 2] >> ser == [[1 2] "str2" "str3"] ;-- Change/only took the [1 2] and thought of it as a single ; value which it changed the first value of ser to. The /only refinement is like saying "There's ONLY one value here, not many values". "Deep" really is very different. -jeff > Thought you would like to hear what "the boys" have to say > about /deep versus /only > > > - Forwarded Message - > > DATE: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:21:39 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > princepawn, > > The /only refinement is used for a block nested within > another block. The /deep refinement is used for recursing > through any number of nested blocks. > > This may not sound like much of a difference, but it is > felt that the difference is sufficient enough to note by > two different refinements. > > If you have any additional questions/comments/suggestions, > please let us know! > > REBOL Support --
[REBOL] Rebol/Command - accessing all records in the queue??
Hello, Using the latest experimental version of Rebol/Command, i'm able to connect and access records from an Oracle Database. using one-rec: first db-port will correctly return the next record but using something like all-recs: copy db-port should return all the records according to the documentation, but it only returns 1 record. Any ideas? Thanks. Mike Berrisford
[REBOL] /deep versus /only
Thought you would like to hear what "the boys" have to say about /deep versus /only - Forwarded Message - DATE: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:21:39 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] princepawn, The /only refinement is used for a block nested within another block. The /deep refinement is used for recursing through any number of nested blocks. This may not sound like much of a difference, but it is felt that the difference is sufficient enough to note by two different refinements. If you have any additional questions/comments/suggestions, please let us know! REBOL Support -- On 28-Aug-2000/11:44:39-8:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The REBOL Helpdesk has preprocessed this message. > >append/only and copy/deep >It would be more uniform for these refinements to have the same name as they do the >same thing: ie, append/only should be named append/deep >or copy/deep should be named copy/only for consistency > > > >Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications at >http://comm.lycos.com > -- Bohdan "Bo" Lechnowsky REBOL Adventure Guide REBOL Technologies 707-467-8000 (http://www.rebol.com) Download the REBOL Messaging Language The Official Source for REBOL Books (http://www.REBOLpress.com) - End Forwarded Message - Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications at http://comm.lycos.com - End Forwarded Message - Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications at http://comm.lycos.com
[REBOL] Rolling your own ideal looper: does Repeat still have a bug? Re:(4)
Thanks, Gabriele,
I have enjoyed studying this foreach code you created!
Excellent! I appreciate your help, it's very valuable.
I wanted to say, sorry for not getting back to you
immediately, there's a lot going on right now!!!
Ciao!
-Galt
p.s. The way you use bind on this-context is something
new to me, it seems, I am enjoying this kind of enlightenment.
>= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
>Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]!
>
>On 28-Ago-00, you wrote:
>
> g> By the way, do you know how Rebol itself
> g> does foreach internally? Do they use a function
> g> like you did, or is it done some other way?
>
>Probably they're doing something like:
>
> foreach: func [
>"Evaluates a block for each value(s) in a series."
>'word [get-word! word! block!] {Word or block of words to set each time
(will be local)}
>data [series!] "The series to traverse"
>body [block!] "Block to evaluate each time"
>/local amount
> ] [
>if get-word? word [word: get word]
>use compose [(word) this-context] [ ; of course the native code
>; doesn't need the extra word
> bind body 'this-context
> amount: either block? word [length? word] [1]
> while [not tail? data] [
>set word data
>do body
>data: skip data amount
> ]
>]
> ]
>
>Obviously the native code might look a lot different. ;-)
>
>Also, since they're probably not calling the WHILE native, there
>will be some magic code to make BREAK etc. work as expected.
>
>Regards,
>Gabriele.
>--
>Gabriele Santilli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer
>Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/
[REBOL] PGP encryption from REBOL
Hi I would like ... rephrase that: In order to impress my higher-ups, I MUST
demonstrate the ability of REBOL to encrypt a file and ftp it to a host. I can handle
the FTP part.
Vis-a-vis the PGP part, from Perl we were making system calls to a PGP binary. But
REBOL does appear to make system calls.
---
; run this in your
; http://www.rebol.com>REBOL Interpreter!
terrence-brannon: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] perl-refugee myth-gamer ]
perl-refugee: [ 'loved href perl discovery: (metaperl = rebol) 'hates href perl ]
myth-gamer:http://www.bungie.net/bin/stats.pl?player=princepawn
; angles makes this a href instead of code! use ur imagination!
href: func [U T] [ rejoin [ "a href=" U ">" T "/a" ] ]
perl: href http://www.perl.com "Perl"
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 8:37:13
grantwparks wrote:
>Could this script evolve in the following ways?
>
>1. Ignore header info like author, date and comments
>2. Ignore a difference in URLs, filenames, etc. when
>they are the target of a particular verb. I.E. if I
>read a URL, but the specific value differs, the 2
>scripts are still doing the same thing. In fact the
>coolest thing I can think of in this case would be
>reporting that "these 2 scripts are functionally the
>same, but the first operates on URL:
>http://www.url1.com and the second on
>http://www.url2.com..."
>
>Don't mean to put the work on others, but I have
>barely had the time to even dabble with Rebol, yet
>(hey, 'dabble with Rebol' has a cool ring to it!). I
>do, however, have a knack for grammars and other
>meta/abstraction concepts. And since one can look at
>the template of any defined function at run time, it
>seems possible to determine which tokens have
>significance in a context, and which have none or
>less. Sort of like being able to determine that "the
>names have been changed to protect the innocent", but
>the story's the same. What dost thou think?
>
>--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Well, it sounded fun so here's what I've got. The
>> output running it
>> on the two files you talked about is at the bottom.
>> The diff shows a
>> list of blocks with tokens and a number which is how
>> many times that
>> token was in the file. You may see the same token
>> listed in the diff
>> for each file if the number of appearances is
>> different.
>>
>> Well, enjoy!
>>
>> Sterling
>>
>> REBOL [
>> Title: "Simple token diff"
>> Purpose: {
>> I don't know, really. It just tries to
>> figure out how many REBOL tokens are different
>> between two files. Somebody thought it would
>> be neat. ;) Maybe they'll ake it complete and
>> fix whatever lurking bugs there are in this code.}
>> Author: "Sterling Newton"
>> ]
>>
>> a: ask "File or URL #1? "
>> b: ask "File or URL #2? "
>>
>> get-type: func [item [string!]] [
>> switch/default true reduce [
>> found? find item "://" [item: to-url item]
>> found? find item "%" [item: to-file next item]
>> ] [a: to-file a]
>> item
>> ]
>>
>> a: get-type a
>> b: get-type b
>>
>> ; the unique tokens and totals blocks
>> foreach item [a-tokens b-tokens a-totals b-totals] [
>> set item copy []
>> ]
>>
>> file1: load/next a
>> file2: load/next b
>>
>> tokenize-block: func [
>> blk [block!] tokens [block!] totals [block!]
>> /local tmp idx]
>> [
>> while [not empty? blk] [
>> either block? blk/1 [
>> tokenize-block load/next form blk/1 tokens totals
>> ] [
>> either tmp: find tokens blk/1 [
>> idx: index? tmp
>> totals/:idx/2: totals/:idx/2 + 1
>> ] [
>> append tokens blk/1
>> repend/only totals [blk/1 1]
>> ]
>> ]
>> blk: load/next blk/2
>> ]
>> ]
>>
>> tokenize-block load/next file1 a-tokens a-totals
>> tokenize-block load/next file2 b-tokens b-totals
>>
>> print ["The two files differ by:" length? difference
>> a-tokens b-tokens "tokens."]
>> print ["- Tokens in" a "not in" b "-"]
>> foreach item intersect diff: difference a-totals
>> b-totals a-totals [
>> probe item
>> ]
>>
>> print ["- Tokens in" b "not in" a "-"]
>> foreach item intersect diff b-totals [
>> probe item
>> ]
>
>
>> == results from the two web page emailing
>> scripts ==
>>
>> >> do %/home/moses/temp/diff.r
>> File or URL #1?
>> http://www.rebol.com/library/html/mailpage.html
>> File or URL #2?
>> http://www.rebol.com/library/html/websend.html
>> The two files differ by: 14 tokens.
>> - Tokens in
>> http://www.rebol.com/library/html/mailpage.html not
>> in http://www.rebol.com/library/html/websend.html
>> -
>> [Email 2]
>> [a 2]
>> [Page 1]
>> [mailpage.r 1]
>> [10-Sep-1999 1]
>> [page. 1]
>> [(simple) 1]
>> [http://www.rebol.com/releases.html 1]
>> - Tokens in
>> http://www.rebol.com/lib
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:
Hi, my copy of Windows 98 dials out whenever Rebol asks. No user intervention needed. It depends on the settings of Win 98 IMHO. Regards Ladislav - Puvodní zpráva - Od: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Komu: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Odesláno: 30. srpna 2000 10:08 Predmet: [REBOL] Dialling Out > Hi > > I am a newcomer to REBOL and would like to use it > to solve a particular programming problem. I have > a stand-alone application, which is not attended > by a user, which occasionaly needs to send or > receive e-mails. Rather than programming all the > code at a low level, REBOL seemed ideally suited > to performing the network interaction processes > through an application generated script and a > CREATE_PROCESS call to REBOL.EXE > > My problem is that the machine does not have a > permanent connection to the network, but needs to > dial out when required. Does anyone have a > suitable script, or a technique which can be used > to get the machine to dial out a connection (using > a connection defined in DUN) without requiring any > user interaction? > > I woud have thought that this would be a very > common requirement (most networking tools have the > ability to dial out if they are not connected, > although simply invoking DUN still requires a user > confirmation) and I would suggest that it would be > a very worthwhile enhancment to REBOL. > > Regards > > Justin > > * > * Justin A. T. Halls* > * Millennium Homes Project Manager * > * Brunel Institute for Bioengineering * > * Brunel University * > * Kingston Lane * > * Uxbridge * > * Middx. UB8 3PH* > * UK* > * Tel. +44 (0)1895 271206 * > * Fax +44 (0)1895 274608 * > * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * > * > >
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:
I don't know if this is what you're looking for in this particular case, but I have made a tiny DLL to make it easier to call the Win32 RAS functions from REBOL/Command without all the annoying Win32 structs. The DLL currently has function wrappers for RasDial, RasHangup and RasGetConnectStatus. You can find the source for the DLL here: http://www.d.kth.se/~d95-mjo/rebol/dlltest.cpp and the /Command example script here: http://www.d.kth.se/~d95-mjo/rebol/dialup_example.r I've only tested it in Win98 and Win2000, but it seems to work. Obviously, this requires the /Command experimental version for Win9x/NT/2000. :-) /Martin Johannesson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > IMHO the ability to connect to or disconnect from > the > network connection is something one should be able > to do from a script. Of course that still leaves > the > question of which system functions the implementor > chooses to use to implment it. > > Anyway, I am stillleft with the problem of getting > a connection in some way. Even (my copy of) Win98 > does not have an 'Automatic Connection' button and > insists on some sort of user intervention. > > I am looking into the RASDial(...) function which > appears to do the job, but the documentation is > obscure. I had just hoped that someone had trod > the > path before me. Heh Ho.
[REBOL] Challenging script idea Re:(2)
Could this script evolve in the following ways?
1. Ignore header info like author, date and comments
2. Ignore a difference in URLs, filenames, etc. when
they are the target of a particular verb. I.E. if I
read a URL, but the specific value differs, the 2
scripts are still doing the same thing. In fact the
coolest thing I can think of in this case would be
reporting that "these 2 scripts are functionally the
same, but the first operates on URL:
http://www.url1.com and the second on
http://www.url2.com..."
Don't mean to put the work on others, but I have
barely had the time to even dabble with Rebol, yet
(hey, 'dabble with Rebol' has a cool ring to it!). I
do, however, have a knack for grammars and other
meta/abstraction concepts. And since one can look at
the template of any defined function at run time, it
seems possible to determine which tokens have
significance in a context, and which have none or
less. Sort of like being able to determine that "the
names have been changed to protect the innocent", but
the story's the same. What dost thou think?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Well, it sounded fun so here's what I've got. The
> output running it
> on the two files you talked about is at the bottom.
> The diff shows a
> list of blocks with tokens and a number which is how
> many times that
> token was in the file. You may see the same token
> listed in the diff
> for each file if the number of appearances is
> different.
>
> Well, enjoy!
>
> Sterling
>
> REBOL [
> Title: "Simple token diff"
> Purpose: {
> I don't know, really. It just tries to
> figure out how many REBOL tokens are different
> between two files. Somebody thought it would
> be neat. ;) Maybe they'll ake it complete and
> fix whatever lurking bugs there are in this code.}
> Author: "Sterling Newton"
> ]
>
> a: ask "File or URL #1? "
> b: ask "File or URL #2? "
>
> get-type: func [item [string!]] [
> switch/default true reduce [
> found? find item "://" [item: to-url item]
> found? find item "%" [item: to-file next item]
> ] [a: to-file a]
> item
> ]
>
> a: get-type a
> b: get-type b
>
> ; the unique tokens and totals blocks
> foreach item [a-tokens b-tokens a-totals b-totals] [
> set item copy []
> ]
>
> file1: load/next a
> file2: load/next b
>
> tokenize-block: func [
> blk [block!] tokens [block!] totals [block!]
> /local tmp idx]
> [
> while [not empty? blk] [
> either block? blk/1 [
> tokenize-block load/next form blk/1 tokens totals
> ] [
> either tmp: find tokens blk/1 [
> idx: index? tmp
> totals/:idx/2: totals/:idx/2 + 1
> ] [
> append tokens blk/1
> repend/only totals [blk/1 1]
> ]
> ]
> blk: load/next blk/2
> ]
> ]
>
> tokenize-block load/next file1 a-tokens a-totals
> tokenize-block load/next file2 b-tokens b-totals
>
> print ["The two files differ by:" length? difference
> a-tokens b-tokens "tokens."]
> print ["- Tokens in" a "not in" b "-"]
> foreach item intersect diff: difference a-totals
> b-totals a-totals [
> probe item
> ]
>
> print ["- Tokens in" b "not in" a "-"]
> foreach item intersect diff b-totals [
> probe item
> ]
> == results from the two web page emailing
> scripts ==
>
> >> do %/home/moses/temp/diff.r
> File or URL #1?
> http://www.rebol.com/library/html/mailpage.html
> File or URL #2?
> http://www.rebol.com/library/html/websend.html
> The two files differ by: 14 tokens.
> - Tokens in
> http://www.rebol.com/library/html/mailpage.html not
> in http://www.rebol.com/library/html/websend.html
> -
> [Email 2]
> [a 2]
> [Page 1]
> [mailpage.r 1]
> [10-Sep-1999 1]
> [page. 1]
> [(simple) 1]
> [http://www.rebol.com/releases.html 1]
> - Tokens in
> http://www.rebol.com/library/html/websend.html not
> in http://www.rebol.com/library/html/mailpage.html
> -
> [Page 2]
> [Emailer 1]
> [websend.r 1]
> [20-May-1999 1]
> [Fetch 1]
> [a 1]
> [and 1]
> [it 1]
> [as 1]
> [email. 1]
> [email 1]
> [http://www.rebol.com 1]
>
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[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:(2)
IMHO the ability to connect to or disconnect from the network connection is something one should be able to do from a script. Of course that still leaves the question of which system functions the implementor chooses to use to implment it. Anyway, I am stillleft with the problem of getting a connection in some way. Even (my copy of) Win98 does not have an 'Automatic Connection' button and insists on some sort of user intervention. I am looking into the RASDial(...) function which appears to do the job, but the documentation is obscure. I had just hoped that someone had trod the path before me. Heh Ho. Justin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REBOL] Dialling Out Re: > > > > > My problem is that the machine does not have a > permanent connection to the network, > but needs to > dial out when required. Does anyone have a > suitable script, or a technique which > can be used > to get the machine to dial out a > connection (using > a connection defined in DUN) without > requiring any > user interaction? > > IIRC Holger had replied to this topic > along the lines that automatic > dialing should be an operating system > task and doesn't belong in REBOL. If > you want automatic dialing, set it up > in your operating system. If your > operating system doesn't support it > then, well, I guess you can write a > script for your modem > > - Michael Jelinek > >
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:
> My problem is that the machine does not have a permanent connection to the network, but needs to dial out when required. Does anyone have a suitable script, or a technique which can be used to get the machine to dial out a connection (using a connection defined in DUN) without requiring any user interaction? IIRC Holger had replied to this topic along the lines that automatic dialing should be an operating system task and doesn't belong in REBOL. If you want automatic dialing, set it up in your operating system. If your operating system doesn't support it then, well, I guess you can write a script for your modem - Michael Jelinek
[REBOL] How to count properly slider args solution ....
Hi, as I was receiving unexpected behavior of lists while trying to scroll it (when using 'supply for dynamic list creation), I played a little bit with what should be the right arg which should go into slider ... I surely don't know how /View scrolls internally, but imho following aproach used even by Carl's file-requestor is imho buggy and will not show all items. If I am wrong, I will be glad you will correct me please :-) Carl uses following technique: vv: slider 16x400 (to-integer vx/size/y / file-name/size/y) [print vv/data num: vv/data - 1 show vx] while num and count being initialised to zero So, current aproach gave me 58 items of my directory I took another aproach: 1 + (length? files) - (to-integer vx/size/y / file-name/size/y) Explanation: 1) "1" is the constant - it simply works ;-))) 2) Now we have to count, how many rows our visible list area can display (to-integer vx/size/y / file-name/size/y) 3) We have to substract value 2) from the length? of block we want list be filled with ... If I count items in display now, it give more proper result of 154 files ... Still one file missing though :-) Hmm, what about this one?: - there's some reminder as a result from 2) (to-integer vx/size/y / file-name/size/y). Let's say we can ignore those few pixels with small listings, but - going thru some 5 screens gives me: reminder vx/size/y file-name/size/y . 400 // 14 = 5 pixels ... 5 pixels * 5 screens = 25 displays ... hmm, it's one more item for the display ... So: length? read %. 155 files y-size-of-list / item-size 400 / 14 28 items per screen reminder 8 pixels ... 155 files / 28 items 5 full screens to display 5 screens * 8 pixels 40 pixels ... 40 pixels / 14 pixels per item . 2 more items ... so, let's code it: items-per-screen: to-integer vx/size/y / file-name/size/y full-screens: to-integer (length? files) / items-per-screen remainder-per-screen: remainder vx/size/y file-name/size/y constant: to-integer full-screens * remainder-per-screen / file-name/size/y range: constant + (length? files) - items-per-screen resulting code in file-request.r: do [ items-per-screen: to-integer vx/size/y / file-name/size/y full-screens: to-integer (length? files) / items-per-screen remainder-per-screen: remainder vx/size/y file-name/size/y constant: to-integer full-screens * remainder-per-screen / file-name/size/y range: constant + (length? files) - items-per-screen ] vv: slider 16x400 range [print vv/data num: vv/data - 1 show vx] ] Im my aproach si corrent, VID could support some func to count all above automatically by specifying list-face, block which goes for display, widest-item(row) ... Anyone? PS: aproach with 'constant is not correct ... have no further time to play with it right now :-) -pekr-
[REBOL] major Rebol programming projects Re:(4)
PNG's are still poorly supported as far as I'm aware. Especially on the more mainstream PC/Mac machines. Although browsers and programs will claim to support PNG's, they only partially support them and don't handle the more complex areas of gamma correction and partial transparancies. I believe they can sometimes crash when they meet a PNG they can't handle. However the PNG support is improving and maybe my information is even now out of date. If not, hopefully it will be by this time next year. Also probably issues with .gif files compression patent. Hen On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Will it be possible, in the future, to have a CGI-script prepare a /View-like >picture and send it back as a PNG, GIF or JPEG? > Does anyone on this list have browsers *not* capable of displaying PNGs? Do you know >anyone who has one? In other words, is PNG good for everyone *now*? (I hope so...)
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:(3)
Justin wrote: > OK, this may be a bit more subtle than I had expected. I had omitted to mention that I am using the Windows CE (MIPS on a Packard bell EasyMate 800). > > When I do the same as above I get:- > > connecting to: smtp.freeserve.co.uk > ** Access Error: Cannot connect to > smtp.freeserve.co.uk > ** Where: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'smtp] > if email? > >> You might have something set up wrong on your rebol setup. Perhaps your password or username is incorrect? Or you've incorrectly specified your pop and smtp servers (though the smtp looks OK)? Do you have any firewalls or proxies in the way? Try Rebol on a PC with Windows to confirm. > On the other hand if I run: pmail -to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I get the dial-up networking dialog box asking if I want to connect. I still need manual intervention at this stage of course. > With your rebol setup as above do you still need to click the 'connect' button in the DUN dialog box, or does it all work silently for you? If I've clicked off the "connect automatically" check box on the DUN dialog box, I then have to click the DUN connect button with Rebol or my browser or email client. I prefer to click on "connect automatically", as I've got a "all you can drink" dial up connection, and my email client works better this way with HTML email with embedded advertising. Andrew Martin Auto-DUN Rebol... ICQ: 26227169 http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/ -><-
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:(3)
pekr wrote: > What about built-in serial port support? Can we implement own dialer? :-) Sure. Just find the manual for your modem, and send the right codes through the serial port. Then write the several layers of software to communicate through the serial port and implement TCP etc. Andrew Martin I'm _NOT_ volunteering! :-) ICQ: 26227169 http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/ -><-
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:(2)
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [REBOL] Dialling Out Re:
>
>
> Justin wrote:
> > I would have thought that this would
> be a very common requirement (most
> networking tools have the ability to
> dial out if they are not connected,
> although simply invoking DUN still
> requires a user confirmation) and I would
> suggest that it would be a very
> worthwhile enhancement to REBOL.
>
> In Windows 98, while not connected to
> the net, I typed in the Rebol console:
>
> >> send [EMAIL PROTECTED] {Re: [REBOL] Dialling Out
> {This was sent through Rebol using:
> {send [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> {followed by this message
> {
> {It works for me.
> {
> {Andrew Martin
> Rebol connected and sent the email.
>
> Of course, I had previously told Window
> 98 to connect automatically. Perhaps
> you should do the same as well?
>
> Andrew Martin
OK, this may be a bit more subtle than i had
expected. I had omitted to mention that
I am using the Windows CE (MIPS on a Packard bell
EasyMate 800).
When I do the same as above I get:-
connecting to: smtp.freeserve.co.uk
** Access Error: Cannot connect to
smtp.freeserve.co.uk
** Where: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'smtp]
if email?
>>
On the other hand if I run: pmail -to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
I get the dial-up networking dialog box asking if
I want to connect. I still need manual
intervention at this stage of course.
With your rebol setup as above do you stil need to
click the 'connect' button in the DUN dialog box,
or does it all work silently for you?
Regards
Justin
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:(2)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Justin wrote:
> > I would have thought that this would be a very common requirement (most
> networking tools have the ability to dial out if they are not connected,
> although simply invoking DUN still requires a user confirmation) and I would
> suggest that it would be a very worthwhile enhancement to REBOL.
>
> In Windows 98, while not connected to the net, I typed in the Rebol console:
>
> >> send [EMAIL PROTECTED] {Re: [REBOL] Dialling Out
> {This was sent through Rebol using:
> {send [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> {followed by this message
> {
> {It works for me.
> {
> {Andrew Martin
> {ICQ: 26227169
> {http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/
> {-><-
> {}
>
> Rebol connected and sent the email.
>
> Of course, I had previously told Window 98 to connect automatically. Perhaps
> you should do the same as well?
>
What about built-in serial port support? Can we implement own dialer? :-)
-pekr-
>
> Andrew Martin
> Look for me in Rebol - The Official Guide.
> ICQ: 26227169
> http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/
> -><-
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:
Justin wrote:
> I would have thought that this would be a very common requirement (most
networking tools have the ability to dial out if they are not connected,
although simply invoking DUN still requires a user confirmation) and I would
suggest that it would be a very worthwhile enhancement to REBOL.
In Windows 98, while not connected to the net, I typed in the Rebol console:
>> send [EMAIL PROTECTED] {Re: [REBOL] Dialling Out
{This was sent through Rebol using:
{send [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{followed by this message
{
{It works for me.
{
{Andrew Martin
{ICQ: 26227169
{http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/
{-><-
{}
Rebol connected and sent the email.
Of course, I had previously told Window 98 to connect automatically. Perhaps
you should do the same as well?
Andrew Martin
Look for me in Rebol - The Official Guide.
ICQ: 26227169
http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/
-><-
[REBOL] Dialling Out Re:
Re: [REBOL] Dialling Out This was sent through Rebol using: send [EMAIL PROTECTED] followed by this message It works for me. Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/ -><-
[REBOL] Dialling Out
Hi I am a newcomer to REBOL and would like to use it to solve a particular programming problem. I have a stand-alone application, which is not attended by a user, which occasionaly needs to send or receive e-mails. Rather than programming all the code at a low level, REBOL seemed ideally suited to performing the network interaction processes through an application generated script and a CREATE_PROCESS call to REBOL.EXE My problem is that the machine does not have a permanent connection to the network, but needs to dial out when required. Does anyone have a suitable script, or a technique which can be used to get the machine to dial out a connection (using a connection defined in DUN) without requiring any user interaction? I woud have thought that this would be a very common requirement (most networking tools have the ability to dial out if they are not connected, although simply invoking DUN still requires a user confirmation) and I would suggest that it would be a very worthwhile enhancment to REBOL. Regards Justin * * Justin A. T. Halls* * Millennium Homes Project Manager * * Brunel Institute for Bioengineering * * Brunel University * * Kingston Lane * * Uxbridge * * Middx. UB8 3PH* * UK* * Tel. +44 (0)1895 271206 * * Fax +44 (0)1895 274608 * * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *
[REBOL] using find/only to match blocks Re:
Hi, find/only C [2 3 4] should work > Supposedly find/only treats a series as a single value, but I am not sure how this is done. I was interested in find the place in a series at the place where a block is found: > > >> C: [ 1 [ 2 3 4] 5 6 ] > > >> find C "234" ; what I want to do > >> find C [ 2 3 4 ] ; or this ... whatever works > --- > > ; run this in your > ; http://www.rebol.com>REBOL Interpreter! > terrence-brannon: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] perl-refugee myth-gamer ] > perl-refugee: [ 'loved href perl discovery: (metaperl = rebol) 'hates href perl ] > myth-gamer:http://www.bungie.net/bin/stats.pl?player=princepawn > > ; angles makes this a href instead of code! use ur imagination! > href: func [U T] [ rejoin [ "a href=" U ">" T "/a" ] ] > perl: href http://www.perl.com "Perl" > > > > Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications at > http://comm.lycos.com > >
[REBOL] forall should have a refinement /then-reset Re:(3)
Hi,
what about:
forall: func [
"Evaluates a block for every value in a series."
[throw]
'word [word!] {Word set to each position in series and changed
as a result}
body [block!] "Block to evaluate each time"
/former
/head
/local fmr
][
if former [fmr: get word]
while [not tail? get word] [
do body
set word next get word
]
if former [set word fmr]
if head [set word head get word]
]
Regards
Ladislav
> Excellent question that I did not even think about!!!
>
> how about these two:
>
> >> forall/then-former ;- put back to state before loop
> >> forall/then-head ;- put back to head
>
>
> ---
>
> ; run this in your
> ; http://www.rebol.com>REBOL Interpreter!
> terrence-brannon: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] perl-refugee
myth-gamer ]
> perl-refugee: [ 'loved href perl discovery: (metaperl = rebol)
'hates href perl ]
> myth-gamer:http://www.bungie.net/bin/stats.pl?player=princepawn
>
> ; angles makes this a href instead of code! use ur imagination!
> href: func [U T] [ rejoin [ "a href=" U ">" T "/a" ] ]
> perl: href http://www.perl.com "Perl"
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:06:01
> joel.neely wrote:
> >H...
> >
> >Reset to what? The position of the series just before the
forall loop,
> >or the beginning of the series?
> >
> >-jn-
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sure you've seen the REBOL idiom:
> >>
> >> forall line [
> >> ...
> >> ]
> >>
> >> line: head line
> >>
> >> I would appreciate it if I could type:
> >>
> >> forall/then-reset line [
> >>...
> >> ]
> >>
> >> Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications at
> >> http://comm.lycos.com
> >
> >--
> >; Joel Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED] 901-263-4460
38017/HKA/9677
> >REBOL [] print to-string debase/64 decompress #{
> >789C0BCE0BAB4A7176CA48CAB53448740FABF474F3720BCC
> >B6F4F574CFC888342AC949CE74B50500E1710C0C2400}
> >
> >
>
>
> Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications at
> http://comm.lycos.com
>
>
