[REBOL] Question: Move the REBOL List? Re:
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:23:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear REBOL list readers: > > It's great to have so much activity happening with REBOL these days. Unfortunately, >our servers are overloading. We're starting to have gigabyte days. While it is good >to have all this activity, it is making life difficult for a few folks around here. >What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like egroups.com? >That would also give you web access to archives, file lists, and other features. > > Your thoughts? That would probably be best and it would let people focus on their main jobs. I have never used egroups but I know topica is fairly nice and has all the features that people would want. B.
[REBOL] REBOL/View Re:
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > as anybody been able to retrieve the unix version of rebol/view beta ? > is it available ? First off this is more appropriate for the beta mailing list. Second I dont believe any UN*X ports are released yet the first to be released will more than likely be View for linux which I think will probably be released soon. Brady
[REBOL] [REBOL] can https be read? Re:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Was hoping someone had figured out how to connect and read secure web pages in >REBOL. Currently when I try something like: > read http://www.passengerrights.com > Causes the error: > ** Script Error: insert expected series argument of type: series port bitset. > ** Where: insert port/path "/" > which I have not been able to figure out. Thats because the document has been moved look below and not only is it moved but its moved to a SSLified server which REBOL can not currently handle natively >> read http://www.passengerrights.com connecting to: www.passengerrights.com ** Script Error: insert expected series argument of type: series port bitset. ** Where: insert port/path "/" >> q zeus% telnet www.passengerrights.com 80 Trying 206.245.142.52... Connected to passengerrights.com. Escape character is '^]'. GET /index.html 302 Moved Temporarily Moved Temporarily The document has moved https://www.passengerrights.com/index.html">here. Connection closed by foreign host.
[REBOL] line-numbers & error messages Re:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, would it be possible to return line-numbers when an error-message is > given? The where: ... is not always so clear, especially in huge scripts. Yeah, I think I also requested that in an actual feedback request one time. It would make doing it by hand then going back over your code over and over everytime you make a change alot easier to maintain.
[REBOL] rebol.org purpose (was "archive" ) Re:(8)
I would be willing to maintain the site. I have the facilities, the desire, and the skill :) Who is the owner of the domain at the moment? On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Actually, Andrew Grossman (grossdog) isn't maintaining the site anymore. > That is probably why it is not seeing a lot of changes. > > I'm sure if someone volunteered to be the administrator of the site that > your voice would not go unheard . > > On 10-Jan-2000/19:21:10-8:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I suspect that [EMAIL PROTECTED] may be the one to contact. > > > >Andrew Martin > >Who's been rummaging around... > >ICQ: 26227169 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://members.xoom.com/AndrewMartin/ > >-><- > > > -- >Bohdan "Bo" Lechnowsky >REBOL Adventure Guide >REBOL Technologies 707-467-8000 (http://www.rebol.com) > Download the REBOL Messaging Language for all Platforms >
[REBOL] arrays Re:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The code: > the-array: array/initial [5 5] "frog" > the-array/1/1 > c1:1 > c2:2 > the-array/c1/c2 > The results > >> the-array: array/initial [5 5] "frog" > == [["frog" "frog" "frog" "frog" "frog"] ["frog" "frog" "frog" "frog" "f > > rog"] ["frog" "frog" "frog" "frog" "frog"] ["frog" "frog" "... > >> the-array/1/1 > == "frog" > >> c1:1 > == c1:1 > >> c2:2 > == c2:2 > >> the-array/c1/c2 > ** Script Error: Invalid path value: c1. > ** Where: the-array/c1/c2 > >> > How do I make a path that will work here for c1 and c2 > Larry > c1 and c2: are not even portions of the array the array has to be accessed by the-array/1/2 if you want to assign the data from c1 or c2 to the elements in the array it has to be something like the-array/1/2: :c1 or something similar.
[REBOL] REBOL Hosting Environment
Hello, I am working on setting up a secure and fast enironment for offering REBOL virtual hosting for those who would be interested. We plan on offerring access to REBOL via basic CGI access and offering access to use the Apache module once its fully released. Is there anything (serious responses only please) that people wouldbe interested in as part of the hosting service. This will be full on virtual hosting including domain names, shell accounts, email, etc. Please respond via private email. Thanks Respond to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[REBOL] Console GUI functions? Re:(7)
On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > like the PalmPilot and other devices which only have a black & white screen. > Also, the Amiga console colors are dependent on the Workbench palette and > generally only support 4 colors if I remember correctly. I think those colors > are mapped to the first four colors of the Workbench palette. Therefore, > it would make it difficult to implement if the REBOL scripter said something > like text="red" print "Hello" as REBOL won't know which color is (or if any are) > mapped to red. Actually for colors that arent supported (I am not too sure on 3.0++ workbench) they are just mapped to the nearest color which can sometimes make your text or graphics invisible if the background color happens to be the closest color available.
[REBOL] REBOL Trivia :)
Who here has been around long enough to remember the original name of this language before REBOL was coined :) NO help from the REBOL people. I just duig up a mirror. Correct answers get a brownie button :) FLA
[REBOL] Jens File Editor (JFE)
ANyone havethe settings for JFE to do syntax highlighting with REBOL? So I dont have to do this all by hand?
[REBOL] dumb problem!! Re:
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i know i am shit in programming !!! > and this is a very dumb problem.. but i cant see the mistake sorry!!! > whats wrong??? > if [ a = 0 ] [ >print [ "this is true "] This is common with people that arent familiar with programming languages. In the beiginning you assign the value of a to be 100 But at the if statement you are reassigning the value of a to be 0 so it evaluates true automaticly. replace if[a = 0] with if[a== 0] FLA
[REBOL] dumb problem!! Re:
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > if [ a = 0 ] [ >print [ "this is true "] > return true > ]; end if > My bad I had my head in C for the moment. remove the braces around if [ a = 0] so it looks like if a = 0 [ print "this is true" ] If you need to make it clearer for yourself then group items like this if (a = 0) [ that will work properly because otherwise if [ a = 0] just creates a block a = 0 And since it is successful at creating a block it will automaticly return true. or you could also technicly do if do [a = 0] [ print "this is true"] but thats a bit excessive. and a cleaner way of writing your function would be. arbit: func [] [ print :a either :a = 0 [ print ["This is true"] return true ; Although not needed because either will return true ][ print ["False"] return false ] ]
[REBOL] user REBOL?? Re:
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i have installed REBOL in /usr/local/ ... > when i used REBOL for the first time it created user.r in > REBOL_HOME ... which hapens to be .. /usr//local/rebol... > now me being root .. i have absolutely .. no problem in using the user.r > .. but .. now i have created a friends id who also wants to use REBOL > .. but he has no user.r since roots user.r is not user readable ... > i tried to do the same in his home directory .. but it didnot work .. > how can i make different users use their own user.r ...??? > one way can be .. to set alias rebol= '/usr/local/rebol -w $HOME/user.r' > this would fire REBOL using the localcopy of user.r ... > is there any better way ..??? subhro > The best way is to just add; if his shell is a bourne based shell or takes bourne syntax add the following to his .profile (zsh users .zshrc) REBOL_HOME=$HOME export REBOL_HOME For CShell (tcsh csh tcslsh): Add the folowing line to the users .cshrc setenv REBOL_HOME $HOME
[REBOL] DONT MAKE IT COMMERCIAL!!!! Re:
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Donald: i just was just thinking about java, python, perl, > tcl/tk all of them survives right ... > java: [has SUN behind it] > python: [has .. (what???)] Python has CNRI (Corporation for National Research Initiatives) > tcl/tk: [has . (what???)] TCL/TK has sun behind it which when they employed Ousterhout they also took his language with them. They then spun off Scriptics and several commercial products. All of them with a not to friendly price tag. Hell even the student versions of any products is over 200USD. > LINUX: [has (what???)] LINUX is a kernel for a OS, not really practical in a programming language discussion. > REBOL: [has AMIGA behind it right A NOW WHAT] > HAIL THE NEW MILLENIUM... HAIL REBOL REBOL does not have Amiga behind it. Rebol Inc. is a privately held company at the moment. Sure investors, individual/corporate thats their biz. The bottom line though is that it is its own company. Not a sub off another company.
[REBOL] (De)Compress function source Re:(4)
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No, compress returns a binary! series. Which, if printed, is converted to > something readable, but if you do a WRITE, it will write the binary data. >> On a few occasions where write alone was specified the written data had been corrupted so just a note to always use write/binary and on an even another note when dealing with cgi type circumstances write/binary/direct. My 2 cents.
[REBOL] Quick Question. I see its internal but out of curiousity [recycle/torture]
Anyone know what recycle/torture does? I know its internal but Im just curious. :)
[REBOL] IRC Channel Re:(4)
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks again for the info... I tried some more and was able to get into > EFNet using irc.blackened.com:6667. I then tried UNDERnet again with my > client and, lo and behold, it works now (at least to one server)! Musta Sorry this is in two messages but blackened is split away and has been for quite some time. It is mainly a ircd development server and used to be a hub. Here is a current list from /links irc.core.com is also fairly stable. There are about 5 people in here right now on the main EFNet channel. *** *.lagged.org ircd-w.concentric.net 2 [199.3.235.130] You Are Lagged *** efnet.demon.co.ukirc.isdnet.fr5 [194.159.80.19] Demon Internet Ltd, London, UK. *** irc.anet-stl.com irc.ais.net 3 [209.145.176.17] You only live twice *** irc.du.seirc.ced.chalmers.se 8 [130.243.35.1] Dalarnas University, Borlnge/Swed *** irc.ced.chalmers.se efnet.telia.no 7 [129.16.13.130] Gothenburg, Sweden *** irc.cs.cmu.edu irc.umn.edu 5 [128.2.220.250] calloc(1,sizeof(geek)) *** irc2-2.netcom.comircd2.netcom.com 3 [199.183.9.7] (2) NETCOM Online Communications Se *** irc2-1.netcom.comircd2.netcom.com 3 [199.183.9.7] (1) NETCOM Online Communications Se *** ircd2.netcom.com ircd-w.concentric.net 2 [199.183.9.7] (H) NETCOM Online Communications Se *** efnet.cs.hut.fi irc.telia.se 6 HUT CS-lab EFNet Server *** irc.mcs.net ircd-w.concentric.net 2 [192.160.127.97] MCSNet Services - (312)803-MCS1 *** irc.sprynet.com ircd-w.concentric.net 2 [165.121.1.46] Server in the Woods *** irc.homelien.no efnet.telia.no 7 [195.159.0.90] Who Cares *** efnet.telia.no irc.telia.se 6 Telia Internett -- Oslo, Norway *** irc.telia.se irc.isdnet.fr5 [195.67.208.172] Telia Light AB -- Stockholm, Sve *** irc.rt.ruirc.isdnet.fr5 [195.161.0.254] RosTelecom JSC - Moscow, Russia *** irc.isdnet.frirc-e.frontiernet.net 4 [195.154.203.241] ISDnet EFnet IRC Server, Paris *** irc.inter.net.il irc.exodus.net 5 [192.116.253.253] Internet Gold Irc Server *** irc.mindspring.com irc.ais.net 3 [207.69.200.132] MindSpring Enterprises IRC Serve *** irc.home.com irc.best.net 1 @Home@IRC (doncha wish you had a cablemodem too?) *** *.au irc-w.frontiernet.net 3 [203.37.45.2] Telstra Internet (The Little Server *** irc.powersurfr.com irc.nbnet.nb.ca 7 [198.163.216.60] Western Canadian Client Server *** irc.idirect.ca irc.nbnet.nb.ca 7 [205.210.36.2] EFNet IRC - Toronto, Canada *** irc.nbnet.nb.ca irc.total.net6 [198.164.211.2] NBNet in New Brunswick Canada *** irc.total.netirc.umn.edu 5 [ali.total.net] Montreal Hub Server *** irc.core.com irc-e.frontiernet.net 4 [208.133.73.83] insanity - we'll miss you brother *** irc-roc.frontiernet.net irc-e.frontiernet.net 4 Yo Quiero Taco Bell *** irc.emory.eduirc.umn.edu 5 [170.140.4.6] Emory University - Atlanta GA USA *** *.umn.eduirc-e.frontiernet.net 4 [160.94.196.192] Univ of Minnesota - Frostbite Fa *** irc.lightning.netirc.exodus.net 5 [207.45.69.69] Cataclysmic and Prolific *** irc.exodus.net irc-e.frontiernet.net 4 [209.67.39.182] So Far.. So Good.. So WHAT *** irc-e.frontiernet.net irc-w.frontiernet.net 3 Frontier GlobalCenter IRC East Server *** irc-w.frontiernet.net ircd-w.concentric.net 2 Frontier GlobalCenter IRC West Server *** services.us ircd-w.concentric.net 2 [205.158.23.2] IRC Services *** *.umich.edu irc.ais.net 3 [141.211.26.105] The White Horse *** irc.colorado.edu irc.ais.net 3 [128.138.129.31] Univ of Colorado Server (2.8.*) *** irc.ais.net ircd-w.concentric.net 2 [207.154.187.187] AIS Routing Server *** *.concentric.net irc.best.net 1 Concentric Network Corporation *** *.stanford.edu irc.best.net 1 In the Heart of Silicon Valley *** irc.Prison.NET irc.best.net 1 The server that got a lump of coal... *** irc.best.net irc.best.net 0 Best Internet Communications
[REBOL] IRC Channel Re:(4)
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks again for the info... I tried some more and was able to get into > EFNet using irc.blackened.com:6667. I then tried UNDERnet again with my > client and, lo and behold, it works now (at least to one server)! Musta > been some problem I had during development that I never went back to verify > or work out. That is exciting. > > I tried the EFNet servers you suggested and (even with mIRC) was not able to > get in through the two freei.net ones. The other two worked, showing a > connection to irc.concentric.net, actually. > > DALnet typically uses port 7000 for connections, in case you have difficulty > getting in there. > > I'll try and hang around a bit on channel #REBOL on EFNet/DALnet/UNDERnet > and see if there's anyone to talk with :) > Yeah I one of the coworkers here runs irc.freei.net and apparently something happened to the boxes over the weekend.
[REBOL] IRC Channel Re:(2)
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > of the IRC channels on various nets for REBOL active channels. One exists > (i.e., is registered) on DALnet, but I've run into only one person on there > during my experimenting. My client works fine with DAL, but won't work with > UNDERnet (different protocol, and I've been unable to determine what is > different), and I've not been able to reach the EFNet servers you listed > here. (Most don't even give a ping reply.) Can you say what port they > listen on? Would seem reasonable to have an active IRC location for Well The protocols all are the same at least they used to be. If they werent a standard ircII client would not still be able to run on any other network and currently they do and I can also telnet and issue the commands by hand. You will not be able to ping most of the servers listed for good reason Most of those server have ICMP's filtered at the routers. The standard IRC port is 6667 Although it is common to have ,6660-6669,&occasionally 31337 open. I personally always use or 6665 seeing as they are 99% of the time always open ports. What problems are you having with connecting to the Undernet or EFNet? > PS -- The idea of a "bridge" sounds cool :), though with no activity I'm > not sure it serves a practical purpose. This was assuming there was traffic on any other network.
[REBOL] IRC Channel
Well I looked up at the list just now even though we have already started it and found out there is a IRC channel on DalNET. However EFNet is the largest IRC network on the Internet which also makes it the most popular. We have started a #REBOL channel. I have not gone to DALNet to check and see if the channel is still active or even lively. Frankly 90% of the people that I know on EFNet dont go to other networks at all, period. So myself and a few other people are holding the channel. If there is any life in the other IRC network channel we can write a simple bot or something in REBOL of course to mirror conversations somewhat like a bridge or something which would be quite cool. I just checked the Dalnet channel and every dalnet server was split that I tried and/or got pushed to but I found absolutely noone in the channel. So here we go. #REBOL Some of the better IRC servers on the EFNet are. In order of preference irc2.freei.net (BSD/OS currently has the INTEL based platform record on EFNet sitting at the Westin (Northwest NAP)) irc.freei.net (FreeBSD) irc.cris.com (Solaris has the SPARC based record on the EFNet) irc.idle.net (BSD/OS sitting at EXODUS Santa Clara Datacenter) Those are some of the more stable and fast IRC servers on the EFNet.
[REBOL] Another REBOL benchmark Re:(3)
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 0.71 on an AMDK6 300, RedHat Linux 6.0, REBOL 2.2 Just for fun I ran this on an old Cyrix 150 running BSD/OS 4.0.1 and it returned 7 back at 1:27 minutes. So for even more fun in PERL I ran it on the same computer (64 megs of ram and 300megs worth of swap space) and after 1:59:19 it crashed stating that it was out of memory. The account that was running this had no limit on memoryusage filesize stacksize etc. Just kind of an interesting tidbit.
[REBOL] Web Hosting Sites that support Rebol? Re:(5)
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are you saying you think a Perl script is a binary executable? > You must have quite a liberal web host if he permits execution of arbitrary > binaries on a shared server! > Facts are a wonderful thing. No. Traditionally to execute a script you have a the first line of the script as something around the lines of; #! which if the script file has a mode of at least 0111 or at least the executable bit set (that mode 0111 is world exec.) than the first line is interpreted. That command can be anything, granted on some OS' there are restrictions such as chroot() environments and other things like freebsd's jail() system calls which can limit the ammount of calls but typically any command can be run permissions granting. a perl script isnt just magicly interpreted. And for the matter anything put inside a cgi-bin that the owner of the web servers process has system permissions to execute can be executed.
[REBOL] Web Hosting Sites that support Rebol? Re:(3)
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This information is, in my experience, just plain wrong. > No web host I have every used or heard about allows uncontrolled binaries > to be executed on their servers. I guess they may not want their servers Uh. I take it youve never heard of PERL? 90% of the CGI out there executes perl to run the script file.
[REBOL] DONT MAKE IT COMMERCIAL!!!! Re:(5)
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since when is Java free? Has anyone tried to license Java for re-distribution in >their apps? If so, you're are probably signed to NDA not to disclose that price, but >if you could provide a ballpark number it might enlighten everyone. > > dan Or at least disclose the number to the list from an anonymous remailer.
[REBOL] Pros and cons. Heh
Ok This is probably the thing that I am absolutely the worst at. I need to come up with server pros and cons from a biusness, programming, & software side for using REBOL in an E-Commerce situations. Im terrible at writing documentationing besides code. I also need to write one for PERL pros and cons on perl. This is mostly for executive management to see who dont know technology well/at all and Customers who may ask questions like WHY REBOL? etc. And the onyl reason I have to throw in something like PERL is that I have to be objective in my opinions. heh or something This just got thrown on me and it needs to be done by 5:30 PM today so if ANYONE has any PROS and CONS that they can throw in about either please email me privately or to the list. Just please anything can help. :)
[REBOL] DONT MAKE IT COMMERCIAL!!!! Re:(4)
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is certainly news to me! Where does one purchase REBOL and manuals? Well lessee have you tried hmmm maybe REBOL Technologies in Ukiah California. Its a long shot but I think they might ahve some of their software :P
[REBOL] DONT MAKE IT COMMERCIAL!!!! Re:(5)
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think the 'could' should be emphasised. When REBOL was first released > there was an offer online to buy software on disk and manual. Probably > too much effort to keep that going...especially as its only a 200k > download and anyone has a text viewer ;-) Personally I cant stand reading manuals,books,etc on the screen. I have a development job and that requires me to be staring at my screen for the majority of my day. Id rather have a book I can flip open to a index and get a quick reference and thats it.
[REBOL] IRC Channel Re:(4)
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > standard IRC port is 6667 Although it is common to have > > ,6660-6669,&occasionally 31337 open. I personally always use or > > 6665 seeing as they are 99% of the time always open ports. > What difference would using these other ports usually make? Less splitting, > faster connecting, connecting at all? Each server port has its own pool of buffered memory and own ammount of maxclients less used ports are usually easier to get on and a tiny bit faster. Also from the OS side you might have a busy server like irc.freei.net, port 6667 is constantly getting pounded so you have to wait inqueue for your connection to be accept()'d port is a more obscure port so thus less connections in-queue. Oh yeah the above statement about memory allocation may not be true for all servers but quite a few on EF are setup that way. But the main issue is really the incoming queue of connections to a port.
