[List admins] Re: Spam prevention

2023-11-14 Thread MusikAnimal
Hello again! I've had my list rejecting emails with a x-spam-score of 4 or
higher since late April 2023. I *think* it helped, but now things are way
worse than ever. We get 2-3 spam emails a day. According to <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Spam_filters>,
it would seem it's not possible to filter for values lower than 4. Is that
correct? If so, what else can be done to prevent spam?

It's getting to the point that maintaining this list is more trouble than
it's worth.

How could I go about migrating my list to using Google Groups? From my
experience as a member of another such email list, Google Groups seems to
come with spam prevention features, so I'd like to give that a try.

Thanks,

~ MusikAnimal

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 4:36 AM Tommy Kronkvist 
wrote:

> Hi Edo de Roo.
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> 25 apr. 2023 kl. 06:04 skrev Edo de Roo :
>
> Can I be removed from these list(s)
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 21:23 MusikAnimal  wrote:
>
>> Amazing! Thank you both! I wish I had known about x-spam-score a long
>> time ago. It's a bit amusing that we're using AbuseFilter-esque rules to
>> filter out spam from a mailing list devoted to AbuseFilter, hehe! But hey,
>> whatever works :)
>>
>> As advised, I have it set to 4, with "Reject (with notification)", so I
>> assume I will be emailed when something is rejected. I have some worries
>> that given the nature of this list, we might have legitimate emails that
>> are *about* spam and may get flagged as spam itself. I will monitor and
>> tweak accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> ~ MusikAnimal
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 3:02 PM Bryan Davis  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 11:49 AM MusikAnimal 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello! I am an admin of the
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikipedia-en-editfilters.lists.wikimedia.org/
>>> mailing list. Starting some months ago, we get spam more or less on a daily
>>> basis. We have all messages automatically held for approval, so our readers
>>> aren't seeing the spam, rather myself and the other admin are burdened with
>>> logging in and rejecting the emails every day.
>>> >
>>> > Is there any advice on how to prevent this from happening?
>>>
>>> The use of the x-spam-score header is not described in your current
>>> attempts to keep spam from the list, so
>>> <
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Spam_filters
>>> >
>>> may be worth looking at.
>>>
>>> Bryan
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>>> Principal Software Engineer   Boise, ID USA
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[List admins] Re: Spam prevention

2023-04-24 Thread MusikAnimal
Amazing! Thank you both! I wish I had known about x-spam-score a long time
ago. It's a bit amusing that we're using AbuseFilter-esque rules to filter
out spam from a mailing list devoted to AbuseFilter, hehe! But hey,
whatever works :)

As advised, I have it set to 4, with "Reject (with notification)", so I
assume I will be emailed when something is rejected. I have some worries
that given the nature of this list, we might have legitimate emails that
are *about* spam and may get flagged as spam itself. I will monitor and
tweak accordingly.

Thanks again,

~ MusikAnimal

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 3:02 PM Bryan Davis  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 11:49 AM MusikAnimal 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello! I am an admin of the
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikipedia-en-editfilters.lists.wikimedia.org/
> mailing list. Starting some months ago, we get spam more or less on a daily
> basis. We have all messages automatically held for approval, so our readers
> aren't seeing the spam, rather myself and the other admin are burdened with
> logging in and rejecting the emails every day.
> >
> > Is there any advice on how to prevent this from happening?
>
> The use of the x-spam-score header is not described in your current
> attempts to keep spam from the list, so
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration#Spam_filters
> >
> may be worth looking at.
>
> Bryan
> --
> Bryan Davis  Technical Engagement  Wikimedia Foundation
> Principal Software Engineer   Boise, ID USA
> [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]]  irc: bd808
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[List admins] Spam prevention

2023-04-24 Thread MusikAnimal
Hello! I am an admin of the
https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikipedia-en-editfilters.lists.wikimedia.org/
mailing list. Starting some months ago, we get spam more or less on a daily
basis. We have all messages automatically held for approval, so our readers
aren't seeing the spam, rather myself and the other admin are burdened with
logging in and rejecting the emails every day.

Is there any advice on how to prevent this from happening? I am aware some
lists have moved to Google Groups. Would that help, you think? If so, how
might I go about migrating my mailing list to it? We have long banned the
email addresses, but it seems rarely we get spam from the same email twice,
so this tactic has not been very effective.

Thanks for any help you can provide,

~ MusikAnimal
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