[WSG] RFC 3066 is dead. Long live RFC 4646 (and 4647).
Important news. Although existing language tag values do not need to change, there are some new possibilities available. The [110]Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) has published two new specifications for language tags. [111]RFC 4646: Tags for the Identification of Languages replaces RFC 3066 and, with the new [112]IANA Language Subtag Registry, extends language tag syntax to address a number of long-standing issues. The separate [113]RFC 4647: Matching of Language Tags addresses how to match the new tags. The W3C I18n GEO Working Group provides a gentle introduction to the new syntax at http://www.w3.org/International/articles/language-tags/ [110] http://www.ietf.org/ [111] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt [112] http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry [113] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4647.txt Hope that helps, RI Richard Ishida Internationalization Lead W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ http://www.w3.org/International/ http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox
Samuel Richardson wrote: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/ In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country links, you'll notice that just after the click the content of that area jumps down] Samuel www.intrepidtravel.com Dunno. I gave up waiting for the page to load in Opera/9.01 after 7 minutes. ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] In-page font sizer
Title: In-page font sizer Hello list, Im looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page no, not by using browser settings. You know... You see an icon of a big A and a little a and clicking them increases/decreases page font size... Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a mines better war. Thanks! -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer
Hi Tom, I've got one on my site which might be just what your looking for, I found it on dynamic drive and uses _javascript_ and alternate stylesheet's to achieve the result. http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/stylesheetswitcher.htm All the bestAlex SextonThreeFour Media - 422A, Brighton Road, Croydon, CR2 6ANTelephone - 020 8667 0563E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web - www.threefour.co.uk On 22 Sep 2006, at 13:45, Tom Livingston wrote: Hello list, I’m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using browser settings. You know... You see an icon of a big ‘A’ and a little ‘a’ and clicking them increases/decreases page font size... Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a ‘mines better’ war. Thanks! -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer
Title: In-page font sizer I always thought Andy Clarke http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/resources/iotbs.html was pretty sweet but its got a problem when _javascript_ is switched off, Dustin Diaz has as a solution (using php) - http://www.dustindiaz.com/udasss/I'm about to go for the Diaz version on my site!- Original Message From: Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org" wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSent: Friday, 22 September, 2006 1:45:56 PMSubject: [WSG] In-page font sizer Hello list, I’m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using browser settings. You know... You see an icon of a big ‘A’ and a little ‘a’ and clicking them increases/decreases page font size... Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a ‘mines better’ war. Thanks! -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*** Yahoo! Messenger - with free PC-PC calling and photo sharing. ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer
On 9/22/06 9:05 AM, Christian Heilmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I consider these things counterproductive, as explaining the user how to resize would make more sense (give a man a fish...). Then again, if you think your site needs those, you might consider using a larger font from the start anyways. Agreed on all accounts. However, this is an internal project, and the designer wants his design to look as close to desired as possible (read: smallish fonts), however outside clients will be hitting these pages, so I'm thinking he wants to be accommodating without, say, putting a possibly condescending paragraph on the page about using your browser to scale fonts and also looking techie with the sizing widget. I think in this particular case, it's harmless and gives me a chance to play. Thanks for the link. -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer
The best method I've found is to swap out stylesheets using _javascript_; here's an article on how to do that, including the script should you choose this method: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/alternate/ This script supports cookies so the user's setting will be remembered next time the return to your site. Using em values for text size in your CSS will allow users to reliably resize text in *most* browsers (with the browser's font sizing feature) if _javascript_ is disabled. I'm not discounting other methods, this is the one I found that works great. Best of luck, Chris Block Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org 09/22/2006 07:45 AM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject [WSG] In-page font sizer Hello list, I’m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using browser settings. You know... You see an icon of a big ‘A’ and a little ‘a’ and clicking them increases/decreases page font size... Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a ‘mines better’ war. Thanks! -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to
Ted Drake wrote: Don't use * html! That won't work. Yes, it will work! Don't get sucked into that nonsense about not using * html for anything. Assuming you're using standards mode and you only want to target IE6 and earlier, * html is just fine. The only time it is not appropriate is when the hack is still required for IE7. Unfortunately, there are still some hacks required for IE7, which have traditionally used * html as the filter, and that is what has caused many sites to break. It is *not* a problem with * html itself, but rather the way it is used. (Of course, the usual warnings about only using hacks as a last resort in favour of a hack-free solution still apply) -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (23/9/06)
This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements This email covers: - Links for light reading - WSG and Industry events - Industry related Jobs -- LINKS FOR LIGHT READING -- This weeks links for light reading are also available here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/2006/09/23/some-links-97/ Google Goes To Web Standardsville, Part Two http://www.joesapt.net/2006/09/22/10.00.00/ Why standards still matter http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/why-standards-still-matter The web standards war is far from over http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/09/20/the-web-standards-war-is-far-from-ove r/ Highlight Microformats with CSS http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/highlight-microformats-with-css Objectifying JavaScript http://www.digital-web.com/articles/objectifying_javascript/ Why people don't use collaboration tools http://www.anecdote.com.au/archives/2006/09/why_people_dont.html JaS gallery http://www.robertnyman.com/jas/ Unobtrusive Table Sort Script (revisited) http://www.frequency-decoder.com/2006/09/16/unobtrusive-table-sort-script-r evisited Easy CSS hacks for IE7 http://nanobox.chipx86.com/blog/2006/04/easy-css-hacks-for-ie7.php Vertical Centering in CSS http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html Creating grunge brushes http://veerle.duoh.com/blog/comments/creating_grunge_brushes/ How to explain RSS the Oprah way http://cravingideas.blogs.com/backinskinnyjeans/2006/09/how_to_explain_.htm l W3C Working Draft - CSS3 module: Generated Content for Paged Media http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-css3-gcpm-20060919/ W3C Working Draft - CSS3 Values and Units http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-css3-values-20060919/ How to verify Googlebot http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-to-verify-googlebot. html -- WSG AND INDUSTRY EVENTS -- October Web Standards Group meeting (Sydney) - 19 October A joint meeting with the WSG and Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group The Web - a blind perspective - Lee Kumutat, Training and Braille Products Manager from Quantum Technology will be talking about the web from a blind perspective. The mobile web - what you need to know right now Dominique Lee will be exploring the mobile web, where it is at and where it is going and what you need to know right now! Sponsored by Access Testing http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/index.cfm?event_id=74 RSVP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDEA2006 (Seattle) 23-24 October IDEA 2006 brings together a diverse set of designers, creators, and researchers addressing a fundamental challenge we're facing today - how to let everyday people take true advantage of the overwhelming mass of information that floods their lives. http://www.ideaconference.org/ Open Standards (Sydney) - 25-27 October OASIS Open Standards 2006 is the fourth annual Asia Pacific event where both management and technical professionals from the business and government sector can gather to share expertise and promote open discussion on the latest technologies, applications and services supporting the global e-Business community. http://www.open-standards.com/ Web Accessibility Workshops * Sydney - 2 November * Canberra - 14 November These full-day workshops run by Vision Australia, are targeted at web-development team leaders, corporate communications professionals and business managers, along with content authors, web programmers and designers and web contract managers. These workshops provide a thorough overview of accessibility issues and how to address them. They cover the World Wide Web Consortium's Content Accessibility Guidelines and their implementation and a consideration of assessment tools and techniques. Details and registration: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/webworkshops/ http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/webworkshops/ Writing for the Web Workshop (Melbourne) - 2 November This practical workshop run by Vision Australia focuses on enhancing the usability and accessibility of your web content and will teach you how to communicate effectively with your readers. Course Outline: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=685 http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=685 Registration details: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=608 OZeWAI 2006 (Melbourne) - November 29 and December 1 Web Adaptability Conference 2006: Are we making the best progress possible? La Trobe University Melbourne. Adaptability is about ensuring that everyone who wants to access digital content can do so if they have appropriate devices and telecommunications. Currently this is not the case - large Web pages rarely fit on small hand-held device screens, let alone phone screens, and most interesting sites are not accessible to people
Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:45:56 -0400, Tom Livingston wrote: Hello list, I'm looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using browser settings. You know... You see an icon of a big 'A' and a little 'a' and clicking them increases/decreases page font size... On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:05:33 +0100, Christian Heilmann suggested: Personally I consider these things counterproductive, as explaining the user how to resize would make more sense (give a man a fish...). Then again, if you think your site needs those, you might consider using a larger font from the start anyways. ... and to save you time writing the explanation, you could link to the BBC explanation (which covers PDFs etc. as well): http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/win/seeing/text/sub_2.shtml This is a part of My Web My Way - Help with seeing websites: http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/win/seeing/sub_1.shtml Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer
Hello list, I¹m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page no, not by using browser settings. You know... You see an icon of a big ŒA¹ and a little Œa¹ and clicking them increases/decreases page font size... Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a Œmines better¹ war. This is the one I used recently. I found the directions really easy to follow. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont/ The client wanted it, and they also work with a lot of cognitive challenged people and thought it would be a lot easier for them to *see* a button rather than having to teach them about browser re-sizing (which the client, herself, didn't know about until I told her). best Donna -- Donna Jones Portland, Maine 207 772 0266 http://www.westendwebs.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***