[WSG] RFC 3066 is dead. Long live RFC 4646 (and 4647).

2006-09-22 Thread Richard Ishida
Important news. Although existing language tag values do not need to change, 
there are some new possibilities available.

   The [110]Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) has
   published two new specifications for language tags. [111]RFC 4646:
   Tags for the Identification of Languages replaces RFC 3066 and, with
   the new [112]IANA Language Subtag Registry, extends language tag
   syntax to address a number of long-standing issues. The separate
   [113]RFC 4647: Matching of Language Tags addresses how to match the
   new tags. 

The W3C I18n GEO Working Group provides a gentle introduction to the new syntax 
at http://www.w3.org/International/articles/language-tags/


[110] http://www.ietf.org/
[111] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt
[112] http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry
[113] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4647.txt

Hope that helps,
RI



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Re: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-22 Thread ~davidLaakso

Samuel Richardson wrote:
 


http://www.intrepidtravel.com/

In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country
links, you'll notice that just after the click the content of that area
jumps down]

Samuel
www.intrepidtravel.com 

Dunno. I gave up waiting for the page to load in Opera/9.01 after 7 minutes.
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[WSG] In-page font sizer

2006-09-22 Thread Tom Livingston
Title: In-page font sizer



Hello list,

Im looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page  no, not by using browser settings.

You know... You see an icon of a big A and a little a and clicking them increases/decreases page font size...

Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a mines better war.

Thanks!


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Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer

2006-09-22 Thread Alex Sexton
Hi Tom, I've got one on my site which might be just what your looking for, I found it on dynamic drive and uses _javascript_ and alternate stylesheet's to achieve the result. http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/stylesheetswitcher.htm All the bestAlex SextonThreeFour Media - 422A, Brighton Road, Croydon, CR2 6ANTelephone - 020 8667 0563E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web - www.threefour.co.uk On 22 Sep 2006, at 13:45, Tom Livingston wrote: Hello list,  I’m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using browser settings.  You know... You see an icon of a big ‘A’ and a little ‘a’ and clicking them increases/decreases page font size...  Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a ‘mines better’ war.  Thanks!   --  Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic |  ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
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Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer

2006-09-22 Thread Ross Bruniges
Title: In-page font sizer
I always thought Andy Clarke http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/resources/iotbs.html was pretty sweet but its got a problem when _javascript_ is switched off, Dustin Diaz has as a solution (using php) - http://www.dustindiaz.com/udasss/I'm about to go for the Diaz version on my site!- Original Message From: Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org" wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSent: Friday, 22 September, 2006 1:45:56
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Hello list,

I’m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using browser settings.

You know... You see an icon of a big ‘A’ and a little ‘a’ and clicking them increases/decreases page font size...

Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if this will avoid a ‘mines better’ war.

Thanks!


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Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer

2006-09-22 Thread Tom Livingston



On 9/22/06 9:05 AM, Christian Heilmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally I consider these things counterproductive, as explaining
 the user how to resize would make more sense (give a man a fish...).
 Then again, if you think your site needs those, you might consider
 using a larger font from the start anyways.

Agreed on all accounts.

However, this is an internal project, and the designer wants his design to
look as close to desired as possible (read: smallish fonts), however outside
clients will be hitting these pages, so I'm thinking he wants to be
accommodating without, say, putting a possibly condescending paragraph on
the page about using your browser to scale fonts and also looking techie
with the sizing widget.

I think in this particular case, it's harmless and gives me a chance to
play.

Thanks for the link.


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Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer

2006-09-22 Thread chris . block

The best method I've found is to swap
out stylesheets using _javascript_; here's an article on how to do
that, including the script should you choose this method:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/alternate/

This script supports cookies so the
user's setting will be remembered next time the return to your site. Using
em values for text size in your CSS will allow users to reliably resize
text in *most* browsers (with the browser's font sizing feature) if _javascript_
is disabled.

I'm not discounting other methods, this
is the one I found that works great.

Best of luck,

Chris Block






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Hello list,

I’m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to
increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using browser settings.

You know... You see an icon of a big ‘A’ and a little ‘a’ and clicking
them increases/decreases page font size...

Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine
if this will avoid a ‘mines better’ war.

Thanks!


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ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com

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Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-22 Thread Lachlan Hunt

Ted Drake wrote:

Don't use * html! That won't work.


Yes, it will work!  Don't get sucked into that nonsense about not using 
* html for anything.  Assuming you're using standards mode and you only 
want to target IE6 and earlier, * html is just fine.  The only time it 
is not appropriate is when the hack is still required for IE7.


Unfortunately, there are still some hacks required for IE7, which have 
traditionally used * html as the filter, and that is what has caused 
many sites to break.  It is *not* a problem with * html itself, but 
rather the way it is used.


(Of course, the usual warnings about only using hacks as a last resort 
in favour of a hack-free solution still apply)


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[WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (23/9/06)

2006-09-22 Thread russ - maxdesign
This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements

This email covers:
- Links for light reading
- WSG and Industry events
- Industry related Jobs

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LINKS FOR LIGHT READING
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This weeks links for light reading are also available here:
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/2006/09/23/some-links-97/

Google Goes To Web Standardsville, Part Two
http://www.joesapt.net/2006/09/22/10.00.00/ 

Why standards still matter
http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/why-standards-still-matter

The web standards war is far from over
http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/09/20/the-web-standards-war-is-far-from-ove
r/

Highlight Microformats with CSS
http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/highlight-microformats-with-css

Objectifying JavaScript
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/objectifying_javascript/

Why people don't use collaboration tools
http://www.anecdote.com.au/archives/2006/09/why_people_dont.html

JaS gallery
http://www.robertnyman.com/jas/

Unobtrusive Table Sort Script (revisited)
http://www.frequency-decoder.com/2006/09/16/unobtrusive-table-sort-script-r
evisited

Easy CSS hacks for IE7
http://nanobox.chipx86.com/blog/2006/04/easy-css-hacks-for-ie7.php

Vertical Centering in CSS
http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html

Creating grunge brushes
http://veerle.duoh.com/blog/comments/creating_grunge_brushes/

How to explain RSS the Oprah way
http://cravingideas.blogs.com/backinskinnyjeans/2006/09/how_to_explain_.htm
l

W3C Working Draft - CSS3 module: Generated Content for Paged Media
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-css3-gcpm-20060919/

W3C Working Draft - CSS3 Values and Units
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-css3-values-20060919/

How to verify Googlebot
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-to-verify-googlebot.
html


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October Web Standards Group meeting (Sydney) - 19 October

A joint meeting with the WSG and Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group
The Web - a blind perspective - Lee Kumutat, Training and Braille Products
Manager from Quantum Technology will be talking about the web from a blind
perspective.
The mobile web - what you need to know right now
Dominique Lee will be exploring the mobile web, where it is at and where it
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IDEA2006 (Seattle) 23-24 October

IDEA 2006 brings together a diverse set of designers, creators, and
researchers addressing a fundamental challenge we're facing today - how to
let everyday people take true advantage of the overwhelming mass of
information that floods their lives.
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Open Standards (Sydney) - 25-27 October

OASIS Open Standards 2006 is the fourth annual Asia Pacific event where both
management and technical professionals from the business and government
sector can gather to share expertise and promote
open discussion on the latest technologies, applications and services
supporting the global e-Business community.
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Web Accessibility Workshops

* Sydney - 2  November
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These full-day workshops run by Vision Australia, are targeted at
web-development team leaders, corporate communications professionals and
business managers, along with content authors, web programmers and designers
and web contract managers. These workshops provide a thorough overview of
accessibility issues and how to address them. They cover the World Wide Web
Consortium's Content Accessibility Guidelines and their implementation and a
consideration of assessment tools and techniques. Details and registration:
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Writing for the Web Workshop (Melbourne) - 2 November

This practical workshop run by Vision Australia focuses on enhancing the
usability and accessibility of your web content and will teach you how to
communicate effectively with your readers.
Course Outline: http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=685
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OZeWAI 2006 (Melbourne) - November 29 and December 1

Web Adaptability Conference 2006: Are we making the best progress possible?
La Trobe University Melbourne.
Adaptability is about ensuring that everyone who wants to access digital
content can do so if they have appropriate devices and telecommunications.
Currently this is not the case - large Web pages rarely fit on small
hand-held device screens, let alone phone screens, and most interesting
sites are not accessible to people 

Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer

2006-09-22 Thread David Hucklesby
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:45:56 -0400, Tom Livingston wrote:
 Hello list,
 I'm looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a
 user to increase/decrease font size on a page – no, not by using
 browser settings. You know... You see an icon of a big 'A' and a
 little 'a' and clicking them increases/decreases page font size...

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:05:33 +0100, Christian Heilmann suggested:

 Personally I consider these things counterproductive, as explaining
 the user how to resize would make more sense (give a man a
 fish...). Then again, if you think your site needs those, you might
 consider using a larger font from the start anyways.


... and to save you time writing the explanation, you could link to
the BBC explanation (which covers PDFs etc. as well):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/win/seeing/text/sub_2.shtml

This is a part of My Web My Way - Help with seeing websites:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/win/seeing/sub_1.shtml

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] In-page font sizer

2006-09-22 Thread Donna Jones



Hello list,

I¹m looking for a simple, tried and true method of allowing a user to
increase/decrease font size on a page ­ no, not by using browser settings.

You know... You see an icon of a big ŒA¹ and a little Œa¹ and clicking them
increases/decreases page font size...

Any links to examples/how-tos are appreciated. Off-list replies are fine if
this will avoid a Œmines better¹ war.


This is the one I used recently.  I found the directions really easy to 
follow.


http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont/

The client wanted it, and they also work with a lot of cognitive 
challenged people and thought it would be a lot easier for them to 
*see* a button rather than having to teach them about browser re-sizing 
(which the client, herself, didn't know about until I told her).


best
Donna




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