Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:59AM -0700, Visually Insane Genetically Modified Organism wrote: > I am using JAWS 6.2 On a Windows XP Home SP2 PC. I would hate to overwrite > IE6 since I do not think JAWS 6.2 is compatible with IE7. However, as a web > designer I am curious how my web sites look like on IE7. Advice? Run two copies of the OS, either through partitioning, virtualisation, or multiple hardware boxes. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
I am using JAWS 6.2 On a Windows XP Home SP2 PC. I would hate to overwrite IE6 since I do not think JAWS 6.2 is compatible with IE7. However, as a web designer I am curious how my web sites look like on IE7. Advice? Angus MacKinnon MacKinnon Crest Saying Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat English - Fortune Assists The Daring Web page http://www.infoforce-services.com Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc. 1st Vice president http://www.choroideremia.org *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
hello,this is my 1st post here, hope i can help you.i run on ubuntu linux and for web development i use several VMware virtual machines. you can download vmware server for free ( http://www.vmware.com/download/server/) and create several windows xp (or whatever you prefer). you can install vmware server both on a Linux machine or windows.my host system has 1GB of DDR2 running a 3Ghz P4. i give each virtual machine only 256 MB and for testing and some basic development/editing work it's enough, the system works smooth. if you have more RAM the better as you will be able to allow your virtual machine to use more. i only have one virtual machine started at a time due to lack of RAM.best regards,-- Romeo-Adrian Cioaba Phone: +40722686751email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]DisclaimerThe information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, print, re-transmit, store, disclose, copy, distribute or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and then immediately permanently delete it. By opening any attachment to this e-mail you are expressly acknowledging that the attachment is subject to copyright, and you thereby undertake not to alter, copy, disseminate, re-transmit, rely upon or use the attachment except as expressly authorised by the sender. ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Yes Lachlan, I seem to be having the same problem. Not sure why, it could be cause I have several other Browsers open at the same time, however all my other standalones work together. Maybe it's got to do with the version of XP I am running? - Original Message - From: Lachlan Hunt To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7 Patrick Lauke wrote:> I've had good results with this http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standaloneI had terrible results with that. I installed it a few days ago and every time I tried to launch it, my computer froze up. There could be something stuffed up on my computer, it's been a while since I've cleaned it, but I haven't any serious problems like that with other programs.-- Lachlan Hunthttp://lachy.id.au/***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Patrick Lauke wrote: I've had good results with this http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone I had terrible results with that. I installed it a few days ago and every time I tried to launch it, my computer froze up. There could be something stuffed up on my computer, it's been a while since I've cleaned it, but I haven't any serious problems like that with other programs. -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Roberto Gorjão wrote: Rahul, As it was said before (I don't remember if it was in this list), although Virtual PC is free now, OSs for it aren't. Besides RAM you also need quite a lot of disk space, if you want to have several versions of IE working as they should, each in his own Virtual PC instance. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Roberto Hi Roberto, Yes, all those caveats do apply. You do need about 1.9 GB for an installation of Windows XP or about 1.4GB for 2000, and you do need to spend some time setting up multiple copies of IE, as well as the other browsers that you test on Windows. However, this setup works well for me, as more importantly than anything else, it provides a "sand-boxed" mode, for me to run Windows, and do all the registry hacking required to run IE 7, IE 6 and IE 5.5 (I don't usually check in 5.0/5.01 unless expressly asked to do so). It can share the network connection, and so I don't have to have any of my files on the test "machine" - so I feel very safe that nothing that happens on the virtual machine can affect my main one. When I am done testing, I just "turn off" the virtual machine, and don't commit any changes to disk - this ensures that I have a brand-new system, free of spyware/virii/what have you, every time I start it up. It helps that I had an old laptop with Windows 2000 on it, which I now use to test Linux, so I think I've side-stepped any legal/ethical issues regarding not purchasing a brand-new copy of Win2000. As always, your mileage may vary. I'd say the ideal situation for using VPC is if you have a second copy of the Windows version that you want, have plenty of RAM, and a decent amount of diskspace. The peace of mind alone from this kind of setup does, for me anyway, outweigh the costs. Regards, - Rahul. -- Rahul Gonsalves (Personal) w: www.rahulgonsalves.com e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
As it was said before (I don't remember if it was in this list), although Virtual PC is free now, OSs for it aren't. Besides RAM you also need quite a lot of disk space, if you want to have several versions of IE working as they should, each in his own Virtual PC instance. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Assuming most web developers on Windows are using XP Pro, you can have as many XP Pro VPCs as you want without requiring additional licenses. One additional OS, say Win2K, would serve to run as a VPC for IE5.x. A professional web developer would also tend to have a modern computer, which would tend to have at least 1GB RAM and a large hard drive. We're talking "tools of the trade", as it were. The RAM used by VPC is only used when you are running the VPC. We use VPC only to run beta software. Our offices are set up with dedicated machines to run testing browsers in environments similar to what real users would be doing. That is, we run IE5.0 and IE5.5 on Windows 98SE and Win2K machines, respectively. Actually, the hardest browser to test, in terms of infrastructure, is Safari. Since Safari updates are OS dependent, our offices run 3 Macs... 1 Jaguar, 1 Panther, and 1 Tiger. This is a far bigger problem than IE ever was :-) That said, for a young, a new, a hobby developer, or someone with a very limited budget, standalone IE might be the only option. If that;s the case, I would urge a careful deployment, along with the attendant registry hacks to fix version identification issues. But I'd also consider at least one additional testing machine, as an industry requirement with the same priorities as a young business manager needing to invest in a couple of nice suits :-) -- Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com "Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday". *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Rahul, As it was said before (I don't remember if it was in this list), although Virtual PC is free now, OSs for it aren't. Besides RAM you also need quite a lot of disk space, if you want to have several versions of IE working as they should, each in his own Virtual PC instance. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Roberto --- Rahul Gonsalves wrote: I can't recommend Microsofts Virtual PC enough. If you have enough RAM (768mb+), it works like a charm. Use wisely in combination with the undo-disk thing, which allows you to boot into a brand new machine everytime you start up. I like. Regards, - Rahul. -- Roberto Gorjão freelance designer and web designer personal site: www.castelosnoar.com PORTUGAL / BRAGA / PÓVOA DE LANHOSO *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Roberto Gorjão wrote: http://castelosnoar.com/cna_blog/?p=38&lp_lang_view=en An alternative would be to make a backup image of your main hard disk, just in case something goes wrong, and install IE7 over IE6 and have this one running as a standalone instead. I can't recommend Microsofts Virtual PC enough. If you have enough RAM (768mb+), it works like a charm. Use wisely in combination with the undo-disk thing, which allows you to boot into a brand new machine everytime you start up. I like. Regards, - Rahul. -- Rahul Gonsalves (Personal) w: www.rahulgonsalves.com e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Maybe this can help also: http://castelosnoar.com/cna_blog/?p=38&lp_lang_view=en An alternative would be to make a backup image of your main hard disk, just in case something goes wrong, and install IE7 over IE6 and have this one running as a standalone instead. Roberto Paul Collins wrote: Can anyone recommend the best place to get the latest standalone IE7? I've downloaded it from Evolt and a few other places and it just seems to crash after a couple of clicks. Would appreciate your help. Paul Roberto Gorjão freelance designer and web designer personal site: www.castelosnoar.com PORTUGAL / BRAGA / PÓVOA DE LANHOSO *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
I use the one found here: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:43:00 +1000, Paul Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can anyone recommend the best place to get the latest standalone IE7? I've downloaded it from Evolt and a few other places and it just seems to crash after a couple of clicks. Would appreciate your help. Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Standalone IE7
> Can anyone recommend the best place to get the latest standalone IE7? > I've downloaded it from Evolt and a few other places and it just seems > to crash after a couple of clicks. I've had good results with this http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone (keeping in mind that a lot of functionality, like RSS integration, favourites, etc don't work unless you do a "proper" install, overwriting IE6 in the process). P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Standalone IE7
Can anyone recommend the best place to get the latest standalone IE7? I've downloaded it from Evolt and a few other places and it just seems to crash after a couple of clicks. Would appreciate your help. Paul ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
