[WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-18 Thread Michael Persson

Hello guys,

I have seen something weird lately in flash productions where i have a 
activation
border in the flash published in the website. have anyone of you seen it 
otherwise

I am getting it at this website http://www.rosoli.gr

I guess it is a XP problem, it does not appear in MAC tiger...

WHat am i suppose to do because i fool the visitors to click in the menu 
and it will
need 2 clicks to get inside. one to deactivate the border in flash and 
one to get

to the menu to navigate where it is suppose to..

It happened a few weeks ago, maybe a update from Mr Gates..!!!

Michael Persson
Athens Greece


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Re: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-18 Thread Mya
A colleague showed me yesterday on another website. From what I understand the activation border acts like the Active X control block. A part of Microsoft's latest security update. I noticed one flash website I visited yesterday had no activation border so I assume there is a way to bypass. Anyone know for sure?
MyaOn 5/18/06, Michael Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello guys,I have seen something weird lately in flash productions where i have aactivationborder in the flash published in the website. have anyone of you seen itotherwiseI am getting it at this website 
http://www.rosoli.grI guess it is a XP problem, it does not appear in MAC tiger...WHat am i suppose to do because i fool the visitors to click in the menuand it will
need 2 clicks to get inside. one to deactivate the border in flash andone to getto the menu to navigate where it is suppose to..It happened a few weeks ago, maybe a update from Mr Gates..!!!Michael Persson
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Re: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-18 Thread Core Multimedia | Ceri

The most comprehensive explanation (and fix) I have seen yet:

http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/12/15/internet-explorer-eolas-changes-and-the-flash-plugin/

Best
Ceri

Mya wrote:

A colleague showed me yesterday on another website. From what I understand
the activation border acts like the Active X control block. A part of
Microsoft's latest security update.

I noticed one flash website I visited yesterday had no activation border so
I assume there is a way to bypass. Anyone know for sure?

Mya


On 5/18/06, Michael Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello guys,

I have seen something weird lately in flash productions where i have a
activation
border in the flash published in the website. have anyone of you seen it
otherwise
I am getting it at this website http://www.rosoli.gr

I guess it is a XP problem, it does not appear in MAC tiger...

WHat am i suppose to do because i fool the visitors to click in the menu
and it will
need 2 clicks to get inside. one to deactivate the border in flash and
one to get
to the menu to navigate where it is suppose to..

It happened a few weeks ago, maybe a update from Mr Gates..!!!

Michael Persson
Athens Greece

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Re: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-18 Thread Core Multimedia | Ceri

Did I say fix? Apologies, I meant workaround / hack.

Best
Ceri

Core Multimedia | Ceri wrote:

The most comprehensive explanation (and fix) I have seen yet:

http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/12/15/internet-explorer-eolas-changes-and-the-flash-plugin/ 



Best
Ceri

Mya wrote:
A colleague showed me yesterday on another website. From what I 
understand

the activation border acts like the Active X control block. A part of
Microsoft's latest security update.

I noticed one flash website I visited yesterday had no activation 
border so

I assume there is a way to bypass. Anyone know for sure?

Mya


On 5/18/06, Michael Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello guys,

I have seen something weird lately in flash productions where i have a
activation
border in the flash published in the website. have anyone of you seen it
otherwise
I am getting it at this website http://www.rosoli.gr

I guess it is a XP problem, it does not appear in MAC tiger...

WHat am i suppose to do because i fool the visitors to click in the menu
and it will
need 2 clicks to get inside. one to deactivate the border in flash and
one to get
to the menu to navigate where it is suppose to..

It happened a few weeks ago, maybe a update from Mr Gates..!!!

Michael Persson
Athens Greece

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Re: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-18 Thread Jan Brasna

Did I say fix? Apologies, I meant workaround / hack.


Well, Ceri, I have to say I prefer this way of unobtrusive including of 
objects with proper fallbacks as nowadays' browsers are pretty much 
unable to handle it with the right resources.


Be it UFO, SWFObject, QTObject etc.

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Re: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-18 Thread Matt

Actually, this is the best example I've seen to date:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/swfobject.html

I have to say that I much prefer this method to using the object &
embed tags. It's cleaner, it validates and it checks the user's
version of the flash player. It also gives you much better control of
what the user sees if they don't have the correct version (I'm
actually wrapping the flash container div around an enitire interface,
so if a user has flash player 8 they'll see the flash site. If not,
they'll see the HTML site).



On 5/18/06, Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Did I say fix? Apologies, I meant workaround / hack.

Well, Ceri, I have to say I prefer this way of unobtrusive including of
objects with proper fallbacks as nowadays' browsers are pretty much
unable to handle it with the right resources.

Be it UFO, SWFObject, QTObject etc.

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RE: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-18 Thread Felicity Farr

EOLAS is company based arising out of UCLA that claim that Microsoft
(and us) are violating one of their patents by embedding active content
in a web page. 

In response, Microsoft have changed the Internet Explorer browser to
behave significantly differently. 

Want to see it in action... Download a BETA version of IE7, or apply
recent updates to IE6 for XP, and attempt to view embedded content such
as Flash or Quicktime.

Help at:
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945

http://www.eolas.com

http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/

Our developers have started using Javascript to embed flash (a very
nasty work around) as well as using the noscript tag to embed the Flash
(just in case someone happens to want to view the Flash but doesn't have
Javascript enabled).

Our justification... The interruption to the users experience, having to
click on each flash movie before they can interact with the flash, far
outweighs the cons of the workaround.

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Subject: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

Hello guys,

I have seen something weird lately in flash productions where i have a 
activation
border in the flash published in the website. have anyone of you seen it

otherwise
I am getting it at this website http://www.rosoli.gr

I guess it is a XP problem, it does not appear in MAC tiger...

WHat am i suppose to do because i fool the visitors to click in the menu

and it will
need 2 clicks to get inside. one to deactivate the border in flash and 
one to get
to the menu to navigate where it is suppose to..

It happened a few weeks ago, maybe a update from Mr Gates..!!!

Michael Persson
Athens Greece

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Re: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-19 Thread Shawn J. Cassick

Felicity Farr wrote:

EOLAS is company based arising out of UCLA that claim that Microsoft
(and us) are violating one of their patents by embedding active content
in a web page. 


In response, Microsoft have changed the Internet Explorer browser to
behave significantly differently. 


Want to see it in action... Download a BETA version of IE7, or apply
recent updates to IE6 for XP, and attempt to view embedded content such
as Flash or Quicktime.

Help at:
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945


http://www.eolas.com

http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/

Our developers have started using Javascript to embed flash (a very
nasty work around) as well as using the noscript tag to embed the Flash
(just in case someone happens to want to view the Flash but doesn't have
Javascript enabled).

Our justification... The interruption to the users experience, having to
click on each flash movie before they can interact with the flash, far
outweighs the cons of the workaround.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson
Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2006 9:52 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

Hello guys,

I have seen something weird lately in flash productions where i have a 
activation

border in the flash published in the website. have anyone of you seen it

otherwise
I am getting it at this website http://www.rosoli.gr

I guess it is a XP problem, it does not appear in MAC tiger...

WHat am i suppose to do because i fool the visitors to click in the menu

and it will
need 2 clicks to get inside. one to deactivate the border in flash and 
one to get

to the menu to navigate where it is suppose to..

It happened a few weeks ago, maybe a update from Mr Gates..!!!

Michael Persson
Athens Greece

  

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Re: [WSG] flash activation border??? is it a XP problem

2006-05-19 Thread Steve Olive
On Fri, 19 May 2006 01:59 am, Matt wrote:
> Actually, this is the best example I've seen to date:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/swfobject.html
>

This is only one of the methods available. Updates available for Adobe 
(Macromedia) products and more information on workarounds is available at:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/activecontent/

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