Re: [WSG] website checker
On 23/01/2007, at 4:40 AM, Barney Carroll wrote: Jon Gunderson wrote: Got good readings for my latest site, bumped into two failings: 1. No headings preceding navigation uls (debatable intrinsic worth). 2. No navigation areas. I think point 1 is a clue to what qualifies: navigation area == list preceded by a heading. kind regards Terrence Wood. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] website checker
On 1/23/07, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/01/2007, at 4:40 AM, Barney Carroll wrote: Jon Gunderson wrote: Got good readings for my latest site, bumped into two failings: 1. No headings preceding navigation uls (debatable intrinsic worth). 2. No navigation areas. I think point 1 is a clue to what qualifies: navigation area == list preceded by a heading. No, I'm certain that area has to do with image maps. Since you don't have any, you get N/A. If you had one it would analyze it. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net .. designtocss.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] website checker
The university of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign has developed a tool call the Functional Accessibility Evaluator (FAE). You can try it out at: http://fae.cita.uiuc.edu It is designed to provide information on functional accessibility design features. If you sign up for a free user account you can check to 2 links deep in your website. Jon On 1/8/07, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? Thanks, Max aka The Pig Farmer www.thepigfarmer.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Jon Gunderson wrote: The university of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign has developed a tool call the Functional Accessibility Evaluator (FAE). You can try it out at: http://fae.cita.uiuc.edu Hey, this is really really cute! Are you involved with it, Jon? Got good readings for my latest site, bumped into two failings: 1. No headings preceding navigation uls (debatable intrinsic worth). 2. No navigation areas. That second one is news to me. Anybody have any explanations/opinions on this? Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] website checker
Silktest and loadrunner will test a site for accessibility if they didnt I would have no job. del usr On 1/9/07, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 04:50:06PM -, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? Pay an expert (or become one yourself). Email me off list if you want a recommendation, I won't spam the group with it. The RNIB is also likely to be able to make some suggestions. I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? No, many aspects of accessibility cannot be programatically tested for. You need some degree of human intervention. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- PRIVILEGED - PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you receive this email and you are not the addressee(s) [or responsible for delivery of the email to the addressee(s)], please disregard the contents of the email, delete the email and notify the author immediately. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] website checker
John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Hi All, Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? It's a little more complex than the CSS/XHTML validation services, but they exist-- 508: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=-1url1=URLENCODEDURLHERE WAI: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=2url1=URLENCODEDURLHERE *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] website checker
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 04:50:06PM -, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? Pay an expert (or become one yourself). Email me off list if you want a recommendation, I won't spam the group with it. The RNIB is also likely to be able to make some suggestions. I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? No, many aspects of accessibility cannot be programatically tested for. You need some degree of human intervention. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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On 1/8/07, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? There is no 'tool' for checking accessibility, it's something that has to be done manually, as there are too many requirements that need a common sense interpretation. Bobby/Watchfire does some of the bits that can be automated, though. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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On 08/01/07, Brian Cummiskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Hi All, Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? It's a little more complex than the CSS/XHTML validation services, but they exist-- 508: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=-1url1=URLENCODEDURLHERE WAI: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=2url1=URLENCODEDURLHERE You may find the Total Validator useful aswell: http://www.totalvalidator.com/index.html But as others have said - a majority of checks need to be done by a real, live, person (or preferably persons), rather than a machine, but running validators is a good start! -- Frances Berriman http://fberriman.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I like this one: http://www.sidar.org/hera/ because it has icons next to the error descriptions that highlight exactly where in your page the problem is or where you need to check. Regards, Kepler Gelotte, President Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. address: 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 web: www.neighborwebmaster.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Thanks guys, Pretty much as I thought then. Thanks again for your time and Happy New Year all. Kind regards, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] website checker
Hi All, Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? Thanks, Max aka The Pig Farmer www.thepigfarmer.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** application/ms-tnef
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Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I like this one: http://www.sidar.org/hera/ because it has icons next to the error descriptions that highlight exactly where in your page the problem is or where you need to check. Regards, Kepler Gelotte, President Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. address: 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 web: www.neighborwebmaster.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** application/ms-tnef
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John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Hi All, Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? It's a little more complex than the CSS/XHTML validation services, but they exist-- 508: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=-1url1=URLENC ODEDURLHERE WAI: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=2url1=URLENCO DEDURLHERE *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** application/ms-tnef
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On 08/01/07, Brian Cummiskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Hi All, Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? It's a little more complex than the CSS/XHTML validation services, but they exist-- 508: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=-1url1=URLENC ODEDURLHERE WAI: http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=2url1=URLENCO DEDURLHERE You may find the Total Validator useful aswell: http://www.totalvalidator.com/index.html But as others have said - a majority of checks need to be done by a real, live, person (or preferably persons), rather than a machine, but running validators is a good start! -- Frances Berriman http://fberriman.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** application/ms-tnef
RE: [WSG] website checker
Thanks guys, Pretty much as I thought then. Thanks again for your time and Happy New Year all. Kind regards, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** application/ms-tnef
Re: [WSG] website checker
On 1/8/07, John 'Max' Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? There is no 'tool' for checking accessibility, it's something that has to be done manually, as there are too many requirements that need a common sense interpretation. Bobby/Watchfire does some of the bits that can be automated, though. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** application/ms-tnef
Re: [WSG] website checker
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 04:50:06PM -, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Can someone tell me the best way to check my website for 'accessability'?? Pay an expert (or become one yourself). Email me off list if you want a recommendation, I won't spam the group with it. The RNIB is also likely to be able to make some suggestions. I have done a standard HTML and CSS validation so I can be 100% before advertising the fact in my footer etc. But is there a 1 click Y/N tester for accessibility that works in the same way as the W3 site checker for validity?? No, many aspects of accessibility cannot be programatically tested for. You need some degree of human intervention. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee), you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** application/ms-tnef
