Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-05 Thread David Dorward
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 05:13:00PM +0300, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
> >As far as I can see, DL's are not deprecated, but they probably should
> >be, as the vast majority of use cases are semantically incorrect.
> 
> Specification provides example: "Another application of DL, for
> example, is for marking up dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker,
> and each DD containing his or her words."

The problem is that it isn't clearly specified. The purpose of a
definition list isn't actually defined beyond its name.

> I like this loose interpretation

I tend towards following Postel's Law:

  Be conservative in what you do; be liberal in which you accept from
  others.

Or, to apply it to this example: if you are writing HTML then assume a
strict interpretation (it is for definitions only) and if you are
writing a user agent then assume a loose interpretation (its for keys
with any number of values).

-- 
David Dorward  http://dorward.me.uk



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Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-05 Thread Rimantas Liubertas

As far as I can see, DL's are not deprecated, but they probably should
be, as the vast majority of use cases are semantically incorrect.


Maybe if you look at it very strictly, but they are OK with the spirit
with at least HTML4.01.
Specification provides example: "Another application of DL, for
example, is for marking up dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker,
and each DD containing his or her words."
I like this loose interpretation, DLs are great for pairing related
items - like aforementioned speaker and his words or Q&A.


Regards,
Rimantas
--
http://rimantas.com/


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RE: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-05 Thread michael.brockington
As far as I can see, DL's are not deprecated, but they probably should
be, as the vast majority of use cases are semantically incorrect. The
one you describe included; surely a vCard or other microformat is more
appropriate - the _definition_  of a particular company is a difficult
concept to define, but I'm fairly sure its not their contact details!

Mike 

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> it  joshuaink.com that i was looking for.
> 
> BTW I thought that his current emotional blog post about 
> web2.0 and a profitable business model  would strike a chord 
> with a project manager i know.
> 
> Also a question raised by his post - Are dl's deprecated?  
> they work well for displaying business listings from a 
> database and seem semantic to me.
> 
> Thanks all,
> -Best
> Kevin
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Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread Kevin McMonagle
 
 
it  joshuaink.com that i was looking for.

BTW I thought that his current emotional blog post about web2.0 and a 
profitable business model  would strike a chord with a project manager i know.

Also a question raised by his post - Are dl's deprecated?  they work well for 
displaying business listings from a database and seem semantic to me.

Thanks all,
-Best
Kevin





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Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread John 'Max' Maxwell

Kevin McMonagle wrote:

yes lads,
this is my first post in a while,
Im looking for a website that had a good 3 col css tutorial on it to refer a 
colleague to.
I cant remeber the name of the designer or its url. Its a very nice site with  green vines or ivy hanging 
down from the top and there are hummingbirds on it.

Does that ring a bell to anyone?
-best
kevin





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sounds like the zen garden thang?



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Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread russ - maxdesign
> I cant remeber the name of the designer or its url. Its a very nice site with
> green vines or ivy hanging
> down from the top and there are hummingbirds on it.
> Does that ring a bell to anyone?
> -best
> kevin
> 

http://joshuaink.com/





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Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread Matthew Pennell
www.joshuaink.comHope you're not easily offended... ;)

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Re: [WSG] looking for site-ot

2006-10-04 Thread Andrew Ingram

Kevin McMonagle wrote:


yes lads,
this is my first post in a while,
Im looking for a website that had a good 3 col css tutorial on it to refer a 
colleague to.
I cant remeber the name of the designer or its url. Its a very nice site with  green vines or ivy hanging 
down from the top and there are hummingbirds on it.

Does that ring a bell to anyone?
-best
kevin


It was probably http://joshuaink.com/
Not sure if this is exactly a standards-based discussion though.

- Andy


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