Re: [FLEAA] Fw: new update to our tallahassee electricvehicleassoc.blogsite
We are going to Cocoa this Friday for the Saturday show at the Florida Solar Energy Center. Now other news so far. TED in Fort Myers -- From: "fran sullivan-fahs" Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:59 PM To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Fw: new update to our tallahassee electricvehicleassoc.blogsite Thanks, Ted. How are you doing down south? Any news for us up north? We are glad to be home, but we miss all the fun teachers and EV helpers we met and the students. Fran, Ron & Joy - Original Message - From: "Edward Ellyatt" To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:06 AM Subject: [FLEAA] Fw: new update to our tallahassee electric vehicleassoc.blogsite http://taeva.blogspot.com Try this website instead... TED -- From: "fran sullivan-fahs" Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:36 PM To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Subject: [FLEAA] new update to our tallahassee electric vehicle assoc.blogsite Wow. Andre Smith, the Tallahassee secretary of the TAEVA has created a wonderful blogsite with some streaming slides from our first meeting. What a super website! Give it a look! cut & paste to browser. Fran Fran Sullivan-Fahs & The EVI w 850 656 5409 m 850 524 1972 http://eviblog.floridaeaa.org "There can be no purpose more enspiriting than to begin the age of restoration, reweaving the wondrous diversity of life that still surrounds us." E.O. Wilson ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: new update to our tallahassee electric vehicle assoc.blogsite
http://taeva.blogspot.com Try this website instead... TED -- From: "fran sullivan-fahs" Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:36 PM To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Subject: [FLEAA] new update to our tallahassee electric vehicle assoc.blogsite Wow. Andre Smith, the Tallahassee secretary of the TAEVA has created a wonderful blogsite with some streaming slides from our first meeting. What a super website! Give it a look! cut & paste to browser. Fran Fran Sullivan-Fahs & The EVI w 850 656 5409 m 850 524 1972 http://eviblog.floridaeaa.org "There can be no purpose more enspiriting than to begin the age of restoration, reweaving the wondrous diversity of life that still surrounds us." E.O. Wilson ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Earth Day Event at FSEC
WE are planning on attending TED -- From: "Shawn Waggoner - FLEAA" Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:17 AM To: "'FLEAA Mailing List'" Subject: [FLEAA] Earth Day Event at FSEC The Florida Solar Energy Center (FSEC) is having their Earthday event on April 18, a Saturday. We are looking for a few cars, to display from 10 am to 3 pm. We have chargers for any EV. There will be about 1000 people attending the event. More information is at: www.fsec.ucf.edu If anyone can make it, please let Bill Young know at: yo...@fsec.ucf.edu -- Shawn M. Waggoner Florida Electric Auto Association Mobile: (561) 543-9223 Fax: (561) 282-0693 Web: http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] FW: Hymotion Plug-in Conversion Kit for Prius - PHEV Priusnow available in Florida!
This is good news. TED -Original Message- From: listserv-boun...@floridaeaa.org [mailto:listserv-boun...@floridaeaa.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Waggoner - FLEAA Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:59 PM To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Subject: [FLEAA] FW: Hymotion Plug-in Conversion Kit for Prius - PHEV Priusnow available in Florida! FYI...We now have an A123 Certified Installer here in FL. The certified dealer for FL is Foreign Affairs Auto in West Palm Beach. So if you are looking to get your Prius converted to PHEV - this is the place for the A123 conversions! Shawn From: Jonathan Ortiz [mailto:jor...@foreignaffairsauto.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: Hymotion Plug-in Conversion Kit for Prius - PHEV Prius now available in Florida! Greetings to All! As we begin 2009, I wanted to thank you for your continued support over the years. I am very excited to announce that we have partnered with A123 Systems in order to offer the Hymotion Plug-in Conversion for the Toyota Prius. This conversion to a Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) will enable the Toyota Prius to achieve 100+ Miles per Gallon! Foreign Affairs: Zero!, our division dedicated to offering Florida the latest in "earth-friendly" transportation solutions, formerly announced the exclusive Agreement this month. We invite you take a look at our new Hymotion informational page on our website where you can find a detailed list of FAQ's and explore the impact of owning a Hymotion Prius PHEV! http://www.foreignaffairsauto.com/pages/hymotion As Toyota continues to push back its anticipated delivery date of its OEM PHEV for Florida to quite possibly even as late as 2013, the opportunity has arrived TODAY to drive electric. The Hymotion Lithium Battery Pack Module is fully DOT & NHTSA Crash-Tested and Certified. Foreign Affairs, Florida's Green CHIP (Certified Hymotion Installation Partner) is now taking reservations for 1st Quarter, 2009 Installations. As Installation Dates are limited, they are naturally being booked fast. Let's make 2009 a great year by "Driving Change"! Best Regards to All and I wish you the very best during the New Year! Respectfully, Jonathan Ortiz Director of Business Development 1681 North Military Trail West Palm Beach, FL 33409 T: (561) 478. F: (561) 689.7000 www.foreignaffairsauto.com P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: Exciting News
Hi all, Just got word that Chris Paine of who kill the electric car got his Tesla delivered as well... Take Care, TED - Original Message - From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'FLEAA Mailing List'" Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:07 PM Subject: [FLEAA] Exciting News Greetings Everyone, I received an email from Steven today. A Tesla will be exhibited at Midtown Miami during Art Basel on December 5th. Steven's Tesla is scheduled to be delivered.tomorrow!!! How's that for good news? Somebody's going to have a very merry Christmas :-) Andrew ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Sarasota
Meeting in Sarasota Saturday 18th? Take Care, TED ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: My Ranger EV is on ebay
Chassis 'C' Fault Codes - Ford ABS, Traction Control, Ride Height etc - Original Message - From: "Edward Ellyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Edward Ellyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Fw: [FLEAA] My Ranger EV is on ebay - Original Message - From: "Jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] My Ranger EV is on ebay It is not running because of the C1839 Leakage Fault code. I don't have the skills to diagnose further and I don't want the truck sitting around. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Ranger-EV-1998-Ranger-EV-OEM-Electric-Vehicle_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a1240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem170268113741QQitemZ170268113741 or just go to ebay and search for Ranger EV. Jamie On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Jeremiah Johnson wrote: Do you have any idea of why it isn't running? Do you have a link to the ebay auction? On 9/30/08, Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am going to let the market decide. The highest bidder will buy the truck. I would of course prefer to see the truck stay within the club. Jamie On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Frank Bonilla wrote: What are you asking as is? Frank --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FLEAA] My Ranger EV is on ebay To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:26 PM Hi All, I need to sell the Ranger EV so it is on ebay. It still is not running but I have the NGS tester so someone with the right skills could get it going. I put many pictures of it here: http://rangerev.shutterfly.com/ See you at the next meeting. Jamie ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Edison Festival of Lights parade
The parade is 2 miles and will be held on February 21, 2009. Take Care, TED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Edison Festival of Lights parade Ted, Our family looks forward to having our Prius conversion by A 123 (installed by AVRC). At that time we would love to participate in these functions! Fran, Ron & Joy & The EVI - Original Message - From: Jeremiah Johnson To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Edison Festival of Lights parade If I get one of mine finished in time, I would like to. Actually, I guess I would also need info on how far it is going to be. ha ha. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Edward Ellyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Would anyone with an EV want to participate in the Edison Festival of Lights Parade? I would coordinate the dates and entry but it would be a good way to showcase EVs. TED ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] our first resort, recharging station to go on line soon.
Kind of hard middle of the week. Beside my insight has no plug. sorry. TED - Original Message - From: "Bernie Crews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'FLEAA Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: [FLEAA] our first resort, recharging station to go on line soon. > Anyone able to stage their EV at this event on Ft Myers Beach? > Call Neil at 239-765-7654 > > Bernie > > > > ..actually we are in the planning stages for the ceremony on the 24th or > 25th of this month. Love to have you at it as it was your idea for our > centerpiece of the Green Program...the electric car fueling station. We > are > actually looking at getting an electric car for the event. > > Neil Hopgood > General Manager > DiamondHead All-Suite Beach Resort > 2000 Estero Blvd. > Fort Myers Beach, Fl. 33931 > Phone: (239) 765-7654 > Fax: (239) 765-1694 > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Report of the Press Conference of the EVI last Friday, Aug. 29
So glad to have the latest report on your efforts in North Florida. Take Care, TED - Original Message - From: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:41 AM Subject: [FLEAA] Report of the Press Conference of the EVI last Friday,Aug. 29 For a long time we waited for this time to introduce the first family-owned, A 123, plug-in Prius to the public. There are now in the country about 200 (or more!) plug-in Priuses (Prii?). These are early-adopter technology cars and will become infinitely better with volume-in-production and with competition. But our family wants to get people to see that electric cars are fun, doable now, and practical. Our car was photographed beside a 1907 all-electric car owned by Devoe Moore, owner of The Antique Car Museum in Tallahassee. Mr Moore gave the ok to have our car plugged into his 50 Kw solar system on the roof of the museum. So The Spirit of EVI had solar power for its first charge! We served refreshments and people asked questions for hours. The part that felt the most wonderful was that after many of them asked all of their questions they often said quietly, "We are so glad that your family is doing this". I interpreted that to mean that the hopelessness that many people have been living with in regard to the erosion of their income (and lives) by high gas prices showed some sense of the "light at the end of the tunnel". Their relief that some one was actually doing something was palpable. Each time that one of you has done a presentation, talked to the camera, talked to a person, one-on-one, you have given hope to those who cannot yet be comfortable with a EV technology that they have little understanding of. Their questions were good, some based on careful study and some on general media hype. But most came to really learn, and, perhaps, to see some hope for their world and their children's world. Some may have come for the snacks. I will hopefully soon get some footage from the tv station to share with you. I will try to attach a photo of the car with its cool wrap (note the FLEAA weblog address on the back of the car) I might use the artist's simulation picture which shows the back of the car very clearly. I am amazed at the interest in EVs that exists in N. FL. Showings of this car have led me to give our FLEAA website address to many people. We will have a great subchapter going up here. Our family has planned for a long time to leave for a 2 month camping trip across the US in early Sept. We will be leaving Sept. 8 and will be towing our popup with an old Mercury Marquis. We will stay in touch with all our EVbuddies in towns which have restaurants with free wireless. When we return we will begin building the Panhandle FLEAA. Again, thanks to all the members that made our family's first EVgrin possible. In years to come our family will add more electric vehicles to our developing EVtribe. Our daughter will be going to college soon, and will take with her the knowledge of how to plug in her car, and the expectation that her school will provide that service to its students. Again, thanks to each of you who shared your knowledge, contacts, example and hope with me. The EVI will be coming through the state of FLorida in Jan. & Feb. of 2009. My husband has 30 years of working with the legislature. Those pre-session months are the prime time to connect with our representatives to promote rebates for those people who buy (or build) battery packs to convert cars to plug-ins. We will add that goal to our EVI list of goals. So this delay of the trip may prove to be very fortuitous! > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Polk EVA meeting head count
Al, Bobbie and I will be there. TED - Original Message - From: "Al Lococo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:49 AM Subject: [FLEAA] Polk EVA meeting head count > Folks, > > I have had a few replies, some attending and some regrets. But for the > most > part no reply as to attendance on Saturday. > > So, this is a request for you to let me know if you plan to attend. Please > forward this to anyone interested, not on the list. Thanks. > > --- > Meeting: > > at the Polk County Sheriffs Office Community Room. > on Saturday August 30, > at 9:00 am. > > Polk County Sheriffs Office > 3635 Avenue G NW > Winter Haven, FL 33880-6200 > > http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Winter+Haven&state=FL&address=3635+Avenue+G+NW&zipcode=33880-6200&country=US&latitude=28.02958&longitude=-81.771176&geocode=ADDRESS > --- > > Cheers, > Al Lococo > www.evprogress.org > Think Globally, Act Locally! > Plug-in, we have the technology, the NiMH powered RAV4 EV is the proof. > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News
As long as my schedule doesn't change I will be there. TED - Original Message - From: "Al Lococo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News > This is for those who have expressed an interest in meeting others who > share > your interest in the progress and development in Plug-In Electric Vehicles > in Polk County. > > I am proposing a meeting: > > at the Polk County Sheriffs Office Community Room. > on Saturday August 30, > at 9:00 am. > > Polk County Sheriffs Office > 3635 Avenue G NW > Winter Haven, FL 33880-6200 > > http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Winter+Haven&state=FL&address=3635+Avenue+G+NW&zipcode=33880-6200&country=US&latitude=28.02958&longitude=-81.771176&geocode=ADDRESS > > The Purpose of the meeting will be to get to know each other and decide > how > this group will function. This will include the selection of Officers > such > as President and Secretary if necessary. We will decide if we want to be > affiliated with the National Electric Automobile Association. I will have > my Electric Picup Truck there. > > If you have ideas for the agenda of this first meeting please reply. Let > us > all know will you plan to attend. Feel free to introduce yourself to the > group by reply email. Express your ideas or ask questions. > > If you know others who are interested in this group, reply and I will add > them to the list. > > Cheers, > Al Lococo > www.evprogress.org > Think Globally, Act Locally! > Plug-in, we have the technology, the NiMH powered RAV4 EV is the proof. > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Sarasota EAA Meeting.........
Scott, I just found out the meeting starts at 10:00AM. I will probably be a little early cuse I got a little Forest Gump in me and I like to talk. TED - Original Message - From: Scott Kuzma To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: [FLEAA] Sarasota EAA Meeting. Specifically, what time will your meeting be starting, and approximately adjourning? I'm on the east coast and may make an attempt to come out to yours this weekend, so I would need to know when to anticipate needing to arrive. ~Scott -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:19:21 EDT Subject: [FLEAA] Agenda for the August 16th Meeting here in Sarasota at the Fruitville Library Hey ELEAA Folks, The following is an draft outline of the Agenda for the August 16th Meeting here in Sarasota at the Fruitville Public Library. Meet & Greet Coffee Donuts Bagels Pass around Sign In List Go around the room with introductions an EV interests Talk about FLorida Electric Auto Association Mention Website and how content pages could be dedicated to regional groups Links are available to qualified organizations (3) Regional subchapters. Panhandle Tampa Bay (Suncoast EV) Sarasota-Bradenton Discuss the Sign Up List with potential new members. Topics Generally describe EV & systems Conversions how to "Git-R-Dun" EV Safety Cost to run EVs Charging Stations and National Electric Code issues Involvement with local elected officials - "get them on board" Sarasota (City & County) Sustainability Progress How FLEAA supports Member needs Future Meetings & Events: Establish a Date Time and Theme for the next Sarasota Bradenton FLEAA Up coming Events "Unplugged in Gillespie Park" Sunday - October 12th Noon - 6pm Adjourn to Alternative Automotive of Sarasota to look over Steve Walter's Project & Shop Directions: The Library is about 3/4ths of a mile East of I-75 at the Fruitville Road Exit (# 210). The Fruitville Library is located at the corner of Fruitville Road and Coburn Road. The entrance to the parking lot is from Coburn Road. EV Charging: Please contact me for Directions to Alternative Automotive of Sarasota (which is about a mile away from the Library). Be sure to let me know what kind of electric service you will need. Thanks, John Batchelder -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Who will be driving their EV to the Sarasota-BradentonMeeting This Sat
Is anyone else going to Sarasota on Saturday from the Fort Myers area? Take Care, TED - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:06 PM Subject: [FLEAA] Who will be driving their EV to the Sarasota-BradentonMeeting This Sat -- Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] west coast clubs update
Works good for me. TED - Original Message - From: Michael Clark To: listserv Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [FLEAA] west coast clubs update On 8/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey FLEAA Folks, I was talking with Steve Walters (owner of Alternative Automotive of Sarasota) who had just gotten back from Paul Liddle's shop (see www.EVporsche.com) for some serious EV training. Steve has an EV project that he wants to tell us about at the end of the meeting so the plan is to adjourn the meeting to Steve's shop (which is about a mile from the library). This will be a very important to those of us who are planning to do our own conversions. Steve's shop will be available as a recharge station for anyone driving their EV to this meeting. I plan to send out the agenda and directions tonight for our August 16th meeting (Fruitville Library, Sarasota, 10:00 am) so stay tuned. Thanks, John Batchelder That is VERY good news. Another anchor conversion shop on the west coast. We will also be able to carry on a meeting followed by a technical workshop just like tarpon springs. Sarasota now has the advantage in having air conditioning! We now have a club project for SuncoastEVA. Bob Macdonald from weirsdale has agreed to sell me a 1981 Jet Industries Mercury Linx. Its in rough shape and not running. Ill have it at the next meeting. As far as the date for the next meeting I was thinking the first saturday in September and have all meetings the first Saturday of the month from then on. This will allow members to be at the SuncoastEVA meeting on the first saturday, the FLEAA meeting in boca raton the second saturday, and the Sarasota club on the third saturday. how does that work for everyone? -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] More A123 Data
AONE is the ticker symbol. TED - Original Message - From: Andrew To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: [FLEAA] More A123 Data Here's more A123 data. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/08/is-the-ipo-window-opening-up-again-a123-systems-files/ Andrew -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Edison Festival of Lights parade
Would anyone with an EV want to participate in the Edison Festival of Lights Parade? I would coordinate the dates and entry but it would be a good way to showcase EVs. TED___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] The Resergence of the EVI
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 340-9285 Has Monte contacted you? He got approval to do an electric conversion at Lee County High Tech Central. TED - Original Message - From: Walter & Olive Sergeant To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] The Resergence of the EVI May I have his email or phone address? Monte's that is. I might be in business next week and I will need help! Walt 7/24 On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Edward Ellyatt wrote: Al, Bobbie and I enjoyed seeing your Ranger. I was really looking forward to it. Good news, Monte Hamsher the automotive teacher at Lee County High Tech Central has gotten approval from management to start an electric car program at his school. TED ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] The Resergence of the EVI
Al, Bobbie and I enjoyed seeing your Ranger. I was really looking forward to it. Good news, Monte Hamsher the automotive teacher at Lee County High Tech Central has gotten approval from management to start an electric car program at his school. TED - Original Message - From: Al Lococo To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] The Resergence of the EVI Fran, Thank you for the update on your plans. You and your family have undertaken a very difficult and expensive commitment. We all respect and appreciate your efforts however many bumps you may find in the road along the way. We all wish you the best. Each of my posts ends with my web site address so that should not be hard to find. I am constructing an event page for Sarasota on my website. The document presented to the Commissioners will be posted there, along with pictures and links, for anyone interested, by the end of the day. It can also be seen here posted Monday, July 21, 2008 7:59 AM with subject [FLEAA] Sarasota City Commissioners. Cheers, Al Lococo www.evprogress.org - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: [FLEAA] The Resergence of the EVI No, folks we don't have a date for our conversion yet, but we are moving the bulk of the rescheduled trip to Jan./Feb. of 2009. We hope to have our Prius converted way before then, but this will help us have lots of time to line up accomodations, media, etc. Before all else, I want to say how much I appreciate you, the members of FLEAA who have been so supportive over the weeks and months with encouragement and ideas. And for those of you who took up the slack and gave excellent presentations in Sarasota with Michele Mician, I give another heartfelt thanks! That commitment was really weighing on my mind, and, as the date grew closer, I kept hoping that we could make it. Andrew Roddy called to let me know that he would do the long trip to have his super EBox there. I heard that Al Lococo was there with his wonderful truck that has logged over 2,000 miles. Also Al brought a presentation that is so very well written. Can you repost that, Al, for any members who may have missed it the first time around? And could your repost the address of your website that has many more of your clear and interesting EV writings? Also, James Parish participated with his plug-in Prius. We look forward to getting together with James at the rescheduled EVI. I know there were more EVers there (but I don't know names), and I thank you also. I am including below a copy of part of Michele Mician's thank you to members who were there. This shows the great job you did! Hi all! THANK YOU for all of your efforts. It was great to see so many interested parties. I think you really got the word out and now people know there is a FLEAA! So much fun. Take Care, Michele Michele mician, MS CITY OF SARASOTA Sustainability INITIATIVES I am in regular correspondance with folks at A 123 and with our conversion team at The Advanced Vehicle Research Center. Both are dedicated groups of professionals who are looking at the total picture of reliability based upon attention to all details. Their delays were necessary to make sure that the advancement of the PHEV technology uses the best and safest techniques and components possible. Now, that previous statement shows my maturity talking. Sometimes my impatience overcomes my maturity, but I am growing up, and as I turn 60 years old next week, I hope to speak from a very wise and patient place more and more! B^) I had hoped to be addressing folks while on the EVI at this birthday occasion, but life had a different pace for things. Wish I could learn that patience thing so the lesson would just quit coming around so much. I need patience in learning patience. On a later posting I will share some of the words of an A 123 representative about their focus now. It helped me to develop more respect for their position by reading those words a few days ago. Again, thanks for all that everyone has done. Fran, The EVI ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] The Resergence of the EVI
Fran, Bobbie and I were in Sarasota with the Honda Insight which made it into the Sarasota Newspaper. It was a wonderful event. TED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:37 AM Subject: [FLEAA] The Resergence of the EVI No, folks we don't have a date for our conversion yet, but we are moving the bulk of the rescheduled trip to Jan./Feb. of 2009. We hope to have our Prius converted way before then, but this will help us have lots of time to line up accomodations, media, etc. Before all else, I want to say how much I appreciate you, the members of FLEAA who have been so supportive over the weeks and months with encouragement and ideas. And for those of you who took up the slack and gave excellent presentations in Sarasota with Michele Mician, I give another heartfelt thanks! That commitment was really weighing on my mind, and, as the date grew closer, I kept hoping that we could make it. Andrew Roddy called to let me know that he would do the long trip to have his super EBox there. I heard that Al Lococo was there with his wonderful truck that has logged over 2,000 miles. Also Al brought a presentation that is so very well written. Can you repost that, Al, for any members who may have missed it the first time around? And could your repost the address of your website that has many more of your clear and interesting EV writings? Also, James Parish participated with his plug-in Prius. We look forward to getting together with James at the rescheduled EVI. I know there were more EVers there (but I don't know names), and I thank you also. I am including below a copy of part of Michele Mician's thank you to members who were there. This shows the great job you did! Hi all! THANK YOU for all of your efforts. It was great to see so many interested parties. I think you really got the word out and now people know there is a FLEAA! So much fun. Take Care, Michele Michele mician, MS CITY OF SARASOTA Sustainability INITIATIVES I am in regular correspondance with folks at A 123 and with our conversion team at The Advanced Vehicle Research Center. Both are dedicated groups of professionals who are looking at the total picture of reliability based upon attention to all details. Their delays were necessary to make sure that the advancement of the PHEV technology uses the best and safest techniques and components possible. Now, that previous statement shows my maturity talking. Sometimes my impatience overcomes my maturity, but I am growing up, and as I turn 60 years old next week, I hope to speak from a very wise and patient place more and more! B^) I had hoped to be addressing folks while on the EVI at this birthday occasion, but life had a different pace for things. Wish I could learn that patience thing so the lesson would just quit coming around so much. I need patience in learning patience. On a later posting I will share some of the words of an A 123 representative about their focus now. It helped me to develop more respect for their position by reading those words a few days ago. Again, thanks for all that everyone has done. Fran, The EVI -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] GM EV's in the news
General Motors has started to advetise the Chevrolet Volt on a local WINK News-Radio station here in Fort Myers. TED - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Fw: Article #1 Andrew: Thanks for the input. It seems like EV development is bursting at the seams. Thank goodness! Like all of us, I'm watching this whole EV- battery R&D like a hawk. Toyota is the front runner so far. If only GM, Ford and Chrysler would concentrate on EV technology, they could conceivably catch up. If they don't go bankrupt first. Just my thoughts. Harvey -- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Fw: Article #1
Harvey, Stanford R. Ovshinsky, ECD President and CEO invented the NiMH battery. His company was ECD an called it the Ovonic Battery. He sold the patent to General Motors to be used in the EV-1. After GM decided to get out of the Electric Car business they sold the patent to Chevron/Texaco who renamed the company Cobasys. Initially ECD sold licenses to several companies one of which was Panasonic which made the batteries for the Toyota RAV4-EV. It was of course Chevron/Texaco who sued Toyota and Panasonic for Patent rights infringement because they did not want another fuel competing with Oil. Charles W. and Al Lococo also know the story better than I and can give you any other details including the other company who can make the large format NiMH batteries for EV's. Something tells me it is Gold Peak. According to SEC filings, ECD Ovonics and Cobasys hold 125 US patents related to NiMH battery technology. 13 of the patents, considered particularly important, are due to expire by 2014. It is a little more complicated than that but that is the basic idea. TED - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Fw: Article #1 Ted: Please clarify my understanding of what happened with Toyota and Panasonic. I have always been under the impression that Chevron/Texaco bought the patent rights to the NMH batteries; that to this day they won't release them to EV manufacturers. Is this accurate? Now you're saying that the original owner of the patent, who sold his patent to Chevron/Texaco, sued Toyota and Panasonic for patent infringement. Maybe I'm missing something, but how could the original patent holder sue anybody if he already sold the patent to Chevron/Texaco? I've talked to other members and they are as confused as I apparently am. I'm sorry to ask you for clarification, but, believe me, I'm not alone. Thank you, in advance, for having to take time to explain this to us. Harvey Bennett, FLEAA Public Relations Committee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Fw: Article #1
Harvey, Because Toyota and Panasonic were sued by the owner of the patent for the NiMH battery (Chevron, Texaco) for $3000.00 thats why. TED - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Fw: Article #1 Rebecca: Very informative update. I'm so happy that these car makers are focussing on EV's. I don't understand why Toyota doesn't bring back the Rav 4 into the market again. We have Rav 4 EV's that are still running fine. How long the original battereies will last nobody seems to know. Outside of the $99,000.00 convertable that's in production now. I don't know of any production EV available for purchase at a reasonable price today. I wish there was one available, I'd but it in a heartbeat. Please keep me on your mailing list, Thanks again for the update. Harvey Bennett[EMAIL PROTECTED] FLEAA PR committee -- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News
Michelle, Enjoyed the display. Was well worth the drive from Fort Myers. Sorry I never got to meet you. Nice job getting so many EV's and plug-ins. TED - Original Message - From: "Michele Mician" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Al Lococo'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'FLEAA Mailing List'" Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:15 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News > Al, > > Thanks for all of your efforts! Looking forward to seeing you > > Michele > > MICHELE MICIAN, MS > CITY OF SARASOTA SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > yourgreencity.sarasotagov.com > 941-365-2200 x. 6317 > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Al Lococo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:06 PM > To: Al Lococo; FLEAA Mailing List > Cc: Michele Mician > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News > > Folks, > > We have arrived in Sarasota and are staying tonight and Monday Night at > the > Best Western at 1425 South Tamiami Trail (US41) at the corner of Prospect > St. (941-955-9841). . > > I will be checking email. > > I have my electric truck with me for those of you who have expressed an > interest in seeing it and can't make it tomorrow. It will save you a > trip > to Winter Haven. > > > Cheers, > Al Lococo > www.evprogress.org > > - Original Message - > From: "Al Lococo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "FLEAA Mailing List" > Cc: "Michele Mician" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:20 PM > Subject: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News > > >> Folks, >> >> I have taken all the necessary steps to bring my Ranger Electric Pickup >> Truck to Sarasota on Monday. I will leave on Sunday Morning to allow >> room >> for the unexpected. See you there. >> >> Cheers, >> Al Lococo >> www.evprogress.org >> >> >> ___ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> listserv@floridaeaa.org >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> >> > > > > Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want > your e-mail address released in response to a public-records request, do > not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by > phone or in writing. E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota > officials and employees in connection with official City business are > public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act. > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News
I look forward to seeing it. I will leave here as soon as IU get off of work at 3:00PM. It is about a 2 hour drive from south Fort Myers. TED - Original Message - From: "Al Lococo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Al Lococo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" Cc: "Michele Mician" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News > Folks, > > We have arrived in Sarasota and are staying tonight and Monday Night at > the > Best Western at 1425 South Tamiami Trail (US41) at the corner of Prospect > St. (941-955-9841). . > > I will be checking email. > > I have my electric truck with me for those of you who have expressed an > interest in seeing it and can't make it tomorrow. It will save you a > trip > to Winter Haven. > > > Cheers, > Al Lococo > www.evprogress.org > > - Original Message - > From: "Al Lococo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "FLEAA Mailing List" > Cc: "Michele Mician" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:20 PM > Subject: [FLEAA] Central Florida, Winter Haven News > > >> Folks, >> >> I have taken all the necessary steps to bring my Ranger Electric Pickup >> Truck to Sarasota on Monday. I will leave on Sunday Morning to allow >> room >> for the unexpected. See you there. >> >> Cheers, >> Al Lococo >> www.evprogress.org >> >> >> ___ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> listserv@floridaeaa.org >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> >> > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] FW: FLORIDA STATE PARKS MAKE ENVIRONMENTAL STRIDESWITH GEM CARS
I'll be there with my Honda Insight. TED - Original Message - From: Nina Powers To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FW: FLORIDA STATE PARKS MAKE ENVIRONMENTAL STRIDESWITH GEM CARS Hi all, Looking forward to meeting everyone tomorrow. Michele is a doll, it's a pleasure collaborating with her as she works hard, with support of the City Commission, on greening the City of Sarasota. Sarasota County is a founding member of the Plug-in Partners, our County Commissioners adopted a PHEV resolution in 2005 to support Austin and join as Plug-in Sarasota County. Glad to see that the City Commissioners will consider adopting a resolution to join tomorrow. Our PHEV resolution and others are on our county sustainability website, under What Sarasota County Does: http://www.scgov.net/Sustainability Nina Powers Sarasota County Sustainable Sarasota 2817 Cattlemen Road Sarasota, FL 34232 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 941-861-6705 Cell: 941-650-0876 Fax: 941-861-6267 Website: http://www.scgov.net/Sustainability P Think Green! Please do not print this e-mail unless necessary -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:42 PM To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FW: FLORIDA STATE PARKS MAKE ENVIRONMENTAL STRIDES WITH GEM CARS Thanks Nina, Hey what do you think of what Michele has been able to put together for the Sarasota City Council meeting. John Batchelder -- Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: BMW to build Electric Mini for California
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: [FLEAA] BMW to build Electric Mini for California BMW builds electric Mini for California - AutoWeek Magazine BMW builds electric Mini for California By BETTINA MAYER, AUTOMOTIVE NEWS MUNICH -- BMW plans to export nearly 500 electric versions of its Mini car to California, company sources said. The electric Minis are being built at the Mini factory in Oxford, England, without engines, gearboxes or fuel tanks, then shipped to Munich, Germany, where they are being fitted with electric powertrains. BMW sources told Automotive News Europe that 490 of the Minis will be leased to selected customers in California and 10 will be used as show cars. The electric Minis are painted silver and have yellow roofs, the sources said. BMW engineers working on the electric Minis are part of a new division called Project i established by the automaker to develop low-emission city cars. The electric Minis will help BMW to meet new California regulations that will require carmakers selling cars in the state to offer zero emission vehicles. Mini spokesman Cypselus von Frankenberg did not confirm that BMW is building electric Minis. "BMW will announce whether it will build electric vehicles or not later this year," he told ANE. Other carmakers are developing electric cars. Volkswagen, Daimler, PSA/Peugeot-Citroen and Renault have all announced electric-vehicle programs in recent months, joining several U.S. and Japanese automakers that are working on the technology. Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Electric Press Release.pdf from ron, fran & joy
I am still waiting to hear from the Toyota dealer here in Fort Myers. My contact says it is in the hands of her manager. TED - Original Message - From: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Electric Press Release.pdf from ron, fran & joy > Joseph, The battery maker, A 123 has had some delays that have affected > The > schedule of The EVI. I am very disappointed about that, but am continuing > to > try to negotiate with them for being able to continue with as much of the > EVI as possible. They have said that they will be able to tell me > something > by the end of this week. They have also asked if I could get our vehicle > up > to Raleigh NC at the drop of a hat for an install. We said, "Sure". So I > take lots of deep breaths, and I communicate with good people like you who > are ready to participate, and we try to keep our hope up. > Thanks for your communication. Fran, The EVI > - Original Message - > From: "Joseph T. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "FLEAA Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Electric Press Release.pdf from ron, fran & joy > > >> Do you know yet exactly when and where you're going to be in Miami? >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Fran Sullivan-Fahs >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Attached is the press release about the trip that our family will be >>> taking >>> throughout Florida this summer. Also following this email is the >>> itinerary >>> for the trip. If you have any suggestions for ways to promote the trip >>> we >>> would love to hear them. It takes a very involved, large community of >>> environmentalists to make something like this affect the kind of change >>> that >>> this world needs. But we, the people, can do it. Thanks. Fran, Ron & Joy >>> >>> Electric Vehicle Initiative Begins >>> >>> July 2 - July 6 Tallahassee >>> >>> July 7 Drive to Orlando >>> >>> July 8 Drive to Boca Raton (Ron's conference) >>> >>> July 11 - July 18 SE FL ( from Melbourne to Miami) >>> >>> July 19 - July 22 SSW FL (Naples, Bonito Springs, Ft. Meyers) >>> >>> July 23 - Sarasota >>> >>> July 24 - July 26 Tampa, St. Petersburg >>> >>> July 27 - July 28 The Villages >>> >>> July 29 - Aug. 2 Tallahassee >>> >>> Aug. 3 - Aug. 5 NE FL Jax and surrounding area >>> >>> Aug. 6 - Aug. 7 Gainesville >>> >>> Aug. 8 - Aug. 10 Tallahassee >>> >>> Aug. 11 - 12 Pensacola >>> >>> Aug. 13 - 15 Panama City >>> >>> End EVI >>> >>> ___ >>> Florida EAA mailing list >>> listserv@floridaeaa.org >>> http://www.floridaeaa.org >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> listserv@floridaeaa.org >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] update on the EVI
Fran, I just talked with the event coordinator for Fort Myers Toyota, Vickie Ambrozewicz who seemed quite interested in holding an event at Fort Myers Toyota July 19. She has to run it by the marketing manager and the president of the Fort Myers Toyota before she can say yes but said that her company is interested in anything GREEN. I told her that a number of the conversions being done with the Hymotion/A123 kit are being done at other Toyota dealers and her eyes got big. Now she may want another meeting and possibly involve the service manager as well. I wonder if A123 might be interested in this event. If you have any email addresses I can keep anyone in the loop. This is getting exciting and maybe we can increase the number of EVs coming to Fort Myers for the event which she likened to a car show. TED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: [FLEAA] update on the EVI For new folks to the FLEAA mailing list, The EVI is the Elecrtric Vehicle Initiative. This is a project that has been constructed to help bring to the people of Florida an awareness about the existance of cool, fun & practical electric vehicles that exist right now. The members of the FLEAA have taken this project as their own and have arranged some wonderful venues for getting this message out. Fran Sullivan-Fahs, Ron Fahs, and Joy Fahs, a family who live in N. Florida, will be driving their plug-in hybrid Prius to meet these other members in their home areas to showcase the variety of PHEVs and EVs that are available and to help individuals, families and fleet owners choose the type of vehicle that fits their needs. Update re: the Initiative... There has been a delay in the conversion of our family's Prius. It will not affect the wonderful presentations which some of you have set up for the Initiative in your regions. It will require pruning the first part of the trip -i.e., initial Tallahassee photo ops and the FSEC at Cocoa plans. I have a lot of respect for A 123, the battery makers and makers of the lithium ion nanophosphate kit that is EPA crash tested. They are very careful with their testing. Their kit will help our electrification of vehicles in a big way. Just yesterday I got to talk with a young woman, Erin Scott, who is their Inside Sale Representatiave. She is really dedicated to A 123's commitment to produce an impeccable battery kit. I am also very fortunate to have had Charles Whalen help me connect with The Advanced Vehicle Research Center. They are our installers and Negotiators Supreme. Dick Dell, The Executive Director of AVRC and Glenn Edmonds, the Program Manager have a lot of big projects that they are working on, but they have kept the communication going through this whole process in a great way between A 123 and myself. So far, the July 11 onward portion of The Electric Vehicle Initiative remains on schedule and intact. If some of that next week needs to be readjusted I will let you know as soon as A 123 or AVRC lets me know. This situation reflects what I call the challenge of being an early adopter. The sooner one can release one's specific expectations and go with whatever is, the better everything will be. I trust that all players are doing their best and that will be quite wonderful enoughThis will be a grand adventure. Thanks, everyone, for your important parts that you are playing! Fran -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] EV Meeting
Bernie, Your business? I thought the TV people would help spread the word and triffic could increase for the event. - Original Message - From: Bernie Crews To: Edward Ellyatt Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: EV Meeting I might have a place. What do you mean? Have an email to Stacey Adams of Wink TV. We have to find a place to meet so we can tell the TV people.?? - Original Message - From: Edward Ellyatt To: Bernie Crews Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: EV Meeting Have an email to Stacey Adams of Wink TV. We have to find a place to meet so we can tell the TV people. - Original Message - From: Bernie Crews To: Edward Ellyatt Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: Re: EV Meeting no but have wink tv set to do a story on my ev when they see fit - Original Message - From: Edward Ellyatt To: Bernie Crews Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:09 AM Subject: Re: EV Meeting Any contacts with the City or County for a public venue highlighting electric cars? - Original Message - From: Bernie Crews To: Edward Ellyatt Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: Re: EV Meeting Hi Ed, what date next month and time is your EVI? I will put it on the map if you want. Let me know Thanks, I will talk to you later. Bernie - Original Message - From: Edward Ellyatt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: Re: EV Meeting Hope you can both make it to the EVI next month. Fran will be charging at my house. TED - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:48 AM Subject: EV Meeting Hello, Let me introduce myself, I live in Punta Gorda, and own an 1998 Ford Ranger EV that is driven daily. I plan on attending both meetings, so if either of you would like to carpool with me, let me know. I plan on leaving around 7:00 AM Saturday. Regards, John F Ryder 24300 Airport Road Lot 69 Punta Gorda, FL 33950 941-639-2415 ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] OK, members, join the fun of the EVI in your area!
Fran Sullivan-Fahs FLEAA member and her family purchased a toyota Prius and are converting it to a plug-in. When finished they will be touring the Sate of Florida and along with other memebers participation will be making stops to promote electric cars and the technology needed to support them. She has produced news releases and itinerary so that the maximum benefit can be had during their trip. As they get into each area EV's will collect and interest will be generated. Fran have I missed anything? TED - Original Message - From: David, FloridaAME To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] OK, members, join the fun of the EVI in your area! What is EVI? I have seen a lot of dates and places but few details. David Kerzel Pompano Beach From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fran Sullivan-Fahs Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:37 AM To: FLEAA Mailing List Subject: [FLEAA] OK, members, join the fun of the EVI in your area! I am reposting the following from about 2 weeks ago. (Note small change in itinerary from Orlando to Cocoa onJuly 7) I am organizing everyones' responses according to your area of the state & will call you with more details. This is really fun! Fran On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Fran Sullivan-Fahs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, You are sustaining great EV energy there! Yes, we would like suggestions from you on where to set up to promote EVs in your area. In fact, I figure that our members know their local media and connections better than I. We will try to make contacts via our press release before we get to the cities that we will visit. We have already made some contacts with the Sustainable Alliance folks. We also will connect with fleet ordering people, Unitarian Churches, etc. But any contacts that you may have in your area are appreciated. Our phone number is 850 656 5409. OK, East Coast, I have heard from Charles Whalen. Who else would like to join this developing caravan from there? We need to show people the exciting EVs and the practical EVs and the whimsical EVs. We, also, need EV wannabes because it will encourage people to see that they are not the only ones who need to plan and work to incorporate an EV or PHEV into their lives. Do we have any N. Florida members who would like to paqrticipate in any way? Central FL? In case you missed our shortened itinerary here it is: Electric Vehicle Initiative Begins July 2 - July 6 Tallahassee July 7 Drive to Cocoa (FSEC) July 8 Drive to Boca Raton (Ron's conference) July 11 - July 18 SE FL ( from Melbourne to Miami) July 19 - July 22 SSW FL (Naples, Bonito Springs, Ft. Meyers) July 23 - Sarasota July 24 - July 26 Tampa, St. Petersburg July 27 - July 28 The Villages July 29 - Aug. 2 Tallahassee Aug. 3 - Aug. 5 NE FL Jax and surrounding area Aug. 6 - Aug. 7 Gainesville Aug. 8 - Aug. 10 Tallahassee Aug. 11 - 12 Pensacola Aug. 13 - 15 Panama City End EVI -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] McCain calls for new EV battery technology
He also suggested $5000.00 rebates on zer emission vehicles. Thats the best nes. TED - Original Message - From: Al Lococo To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] McCain calls for new EV battery technology Folks, You know me, I'm skeptical. A post from someone name Info. Is this information or propaganda? The $300 million prize for a better car battery is not necessary. What we need are plug-in cars, PHEVs and BEVs. When do we need 'em, now! How do we get 'em, with the proper incentives, properly administered. For example, we have a $1,000 Hybrid incentive. What does GM do they build a "Mild Hybrid" to qualify for the incentive. That's how they compete. If the incentive were properly administered, the "Mild Hybrid" wouldn't qualify, and they wouldn't build it. The government introduces a small businesses incentive for vehicles weighing over 6,000 pounds, GM introduces the Hummer. This incentive peaked at $125,000 in 2007. http://www.crestcapital.com/tax/tax_deduction_calculator.aspx Do incentives work, you bet they do. The first task of the current administration, was to dismantle incentives that favored BEVs and Hybrids. The BEV incentive was dropped and the Hybrid research program was converted to a Hydrogen Fuel Cell Program. A 10,000 or $20,000 or more incentive per vehicle would go a long way towards getting PHEVs and BEVs on the road. Too bad the government can't do for electric vehicles what it did for the Hummer The incentive should be ramped so that as the population of PHEVs and BEVs increases, the incentives are reduced. This will motivate buyers to get in early. Too bad our candidates don't understand the capabilities of the technologies we already have and the power of incentives to apply these technologies to the problem at hand. Plug in, we have the technology and Toyota RAV4 is the proof. Not to mention the AC Propulsion, E-Box and the Tesla roadster. How about the AFS Trinity? This Super capacitor PHEV is on the road. http://www.afstrinity.net/Jan08-AFSTrinity-XH150-Presentation.pdf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujp1f4vXJ5U&feature=related Technology we have. Politicians who understand the technology and the power of incentives we don't have. Cheers, Al Lococo www.evprogress.org - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fleaa Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [FLEAA] McCain calls for new EV battery technology Wow, this is great news for the EV community!. This is the first time(in recent memory) the federal Government has step forward and actual proposed to help the adoption of Electric Vehicles. For those of you who have not heard the news, McCain has step forth and says that he wants the federal government to pay "300 Million" to help develop a new EV battery. What does mean to us? It means that the new battery will be developed with wait for it."public money". Translated, it means that there will not be a corporation(like Chevron) that can prevent the technology from being mass produced. Right now it is only a proposal...but we should help encourage this kinda solution. ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] EVI, West Coast, South Coast Chapters, City of Sarasota MEETING
I have a copy of who killed the electric car signed by Chelsea Sexton if you need it. TED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] EVI, West Coast, South Coast Chapters,City of Sarasota MEETING Wow. You are a super organizer, Michael! Yes, Sarasota is good for us since we drive a PHEV. You know your local pure EVers and their ranges, so let that be your guide for where to have these functions. Also, Michele has some goals for various locations and we can try to meet those goals when possible. I will try to connect with Michele also tomorrow for some detail work. You are doing a great job, Michael. Thanks so much! Fran - Original Message - From: Michael Clark To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:56 PM Subject: [FLEAA] EVI, West Coast, South Coast Chapters,City of Sarasota MEETING I sent this today and got a very quick response from Michele. I'll try to get in touch with her by phone tomorrow to discuss it further. Looks like we have a winner for the date of the next meeting. Only difference (although BIG difference) is the location will be in Sarasota if You think this is a good idea Fran. If you found another place to hold your mini concert then of course we'll go with that. This of course would be an ALL REGIONAL event and hopefully we can get people from all over the state to come to this one. Things are happening fast! The date for this one would be July 26th to coincide with Fran and EVI's visit. I'd like to request that someone with experience dealing with the media generate the press release. Maybe Andrew can give us the layout of the press releases that FLEAA sends out? Also who has the Original Copy of Who Killed the Electric Car and we need to see if we need permission from the producers to show it in a public forum. -- Forwarded message -- From: Michele Mician <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM Subject: RE: Electric Vehicle Initiative and West Coast/South West Coast Florida Electric Auto Association To: Michael Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Michael. Sure. So, do I understand that you will show Who Killed the Electric Car? Do you have a flyer, venue, press release? I want to get a consolidated press release of all the events. ASAP : ) Michele mician, MS CITY OF SARASOTA Sustainability INITIATIVES [EMAIL PROTECTED] yourgreencity.sarasotagov.com 941-365-2200 x. 6317 From: Michael Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:42 PM To: Michele Mician Subject: Electric Vehicle Initative and West Coast/South West Coast Florida Electric Auto Association My name is Michael Clark. I am the organizer for the West Coast and South West Coast Electric Auto Association. We are partnering with the Electric Vehicle Iniative in their visit to the Tampa Bay Area. We and EVI would like to paticipant with Sarasota in the promotion of Electric Vehicles. Fran with EVI has spoken with you in regards to their visit to the area. If we could arrange our monthly meeting to coincide with EVI on the 26th of July where we could show "Who Killed the Electric Car" and be able to answer any questions regarding electric vehicles. There are members of the clubs that have electric vehicles that they use on a daily basis. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Great Idea!
Michael and Bernie, I hope you can support the EVI in Fort Myers as well. We're really short of electrics here as wellTED - Original Message - From: Michael Clark To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:45 AM Subject: [FLEAA] Great Idea! Excellent IDEA!! The next monthly meeting of the West Coast and South West Coast clubs will fall at the same time that EVI is in the tampa bay area. A meeting in Sarasota would be a great idea. I have emailed Michele Mician expressing our interest in having the meeting with EVI in sarasota. I think the combination of all of us would make a great showing and show that the idea of EVs in Tamap Bay is not from scattered people but a unified front. -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] south west florida electric auto association meeting
With the electrics trying to make the meetings we should consider a place where they can charge for the return trip. TED - Original Message - From: Michael Clark To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: [FLEAA] south west florida electric auto association meeting now that we have the west coast fleaa group meeting set for the 21st at 10 am in tarpon springs including a hybird plug in prius, jeep ev, and s-10 ev we need to set the location for the south west florida group. the date so far is the 28th. the location has yet to be picked. a S-10 EV in bradenton is ready to go and is ready for the 28th. I just need a little suggestion on location. I am not from the bradenton area so I do not know where a good spot would be. I have been to downtown bradenton a few times but do not remember a good place for meetings. Any ideas? -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: It's Been One of Those Days
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: It's Been One of Those Days I think we can all appreciate this one. I went into the gas station today and asked for five dollars worth of gas. The clerk farted and gave me a receipt. Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. Stay informed, get connected and more with AOL on your phone. Stay informed, get connected and more with AOL on your phone. <>___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] The Electric Vehicle Initiative has a takeoff time!
Fran, There many others in the Bradenton Sarasota area. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in my area but we have only met once. Also see the west coast member list. You will have your charge site in Fort Myers. My phone is 239 410-8826. TED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] The Electric Vehicle Initiative has a takeoff time! Thanks, Ted. Our PHEV will just need a 110V standard plug in. But I am hoping that other EV folks will meet up with us. You know better than I who is in your area, and what type of EV they would be driving and, therefore, what kind of connection they may need. As we progress in making our specific plans may I please phone you for help with local info? I appreciate your response. Does anyone in your area have a solar charger for their EV? Fran - Original Message - From: Edward Ellyatt To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] The Electric Vehicle Initiative has a takeoff time! Fran, We'll mark down the dates you will be in Fort Myers. Tell me ahead what connection you will need for charging and we'll try to have it. TED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [FLEAA] The Electric Vehicle Initiative has a takeoff time! This morning I had a conversation with the director of The Advanced Research Development Center out of Raleigh, NC. Our conversion of our Prius will occur at the latest on July 3rd. This gentleman is very cautious about making statements that will reach the media, so I feel confident that he knows that his supplier understands that it is imperative that we can be where we say we will be when we say we will be there. Whew. I hope you can follow that. So, folks, here is the itinerary. Please let me know if you can participate in your area of the state, and I will mark you down for the areas that you can parrticipate in. If the volume of posts about the EVI gets to be too much for the FLEAA email list we can move these postings to the blog on the FLEAA "blogsite" (I think). I don't want to lose members who feel that they are getting too many posts. But I do want to invite all to participate in this trip that we hope will help to promote EVs & PHEVs in Florida. This is the short form of the itinerary. It will "flesh out" over the next few weeks with lots of details. Also this itinerary is now tentative so if we missed your town or there is a big green festival a day or so before or after we visit your way, please let us know asap and we will flex while we can. Tnx. Fran, Ron & Joy Electric Vehicle Initiative Begins July 2 - July 6 Tallahassee July 7 Drive to Orlando July 8 Drive to Boca Raton (Ron’s conference) July 11 - July 18 SE FL ( from Melbourne to Miami) July 19 - July 22 SSW FL (Naples, Bonito Springs, Ft. Meyers) July 23 - Sarasota July 24 - July 26 Tampa, St. Petersburg July 27 - July 28 The Villages July 29 - Aug. 2 Tallahassee Aug. 3 - Aug. 5 NE FL Jax and surrounding area Aug. 6 - Aug. 7 Gainesville Aug. 8 - Aug. 10 Tallahassee Aug. 11 - 12 Pensacola Aug. 13 - 15 Panama City End EVI -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] west coast chapter florida electric auto associationmeeting date change
Thanks Michael. Ad me to the list. I need an address and a time. TED - Original Message - From: Michael Clark To: ListServ@Floridaeaa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: [FLEAA] west coast chapter florida electric auto associationmeeting date change the 14th is too soon for some potential members so the meeting with be moved to the following Saturday, the 21st in Oldsmar, FL again RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with contact info so I can keep everyone up to date directly. -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] The Electric Vehicle Initiative has a takeoff time!
Fran, We'll mark down the dates you will be in Fort Myers. Tell me ahead what connection you will need for charging and we'll try to have it. TED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [FLEAA] The Electric Vehicle Initiative has a takeoff time! This morning I had a conversation with the director of The Advanced Research Development Center out of Raleigh, NC. Our conversion of our Prius will occur at the latest on July 3rd. This gentleman is very cautious about making statements that will reach the media, so I feel confident that he knows that his supplier understands that it is imperative that we can be where we say we will be when we say we will be there. Whew. I hope you can follow that. So, folks, here is the itinerary. Please let me know if you can participate in your area of the state, and I will mark you down for the areas that you can parrticipate in. If the volume of posts about the EVI gets to be too much for the FLEAA email list we can move these postings to the blog on the FLEAA "blogsite" (I think). I don't want to lose members who feel that they are getting too many posts. But I do want to invite all to participate in this trip that we hope will help to promote EVs & PHEVs in Florida. This is the short form of the itinerary. It will "flesh out" over the next few weeks with lots of details. Also this itinerary is now tentative so if we missed your town or there is a big green festival a day or so before or after we visit your way, please let us know asap and we will flex while we can. Tnx. Fran, Ron & Joy Electric Vehicle Initiative Begins July 2 - July 6 Tallahassee July 7 Drive to Orlando July 8 Drive to Boca Raton (Ron’s conference) July 11 - July 18 SE FL ( from Melbourne to Miami) July 19 - July 22 SSW FL (Naples, Bonito Springs, Ft. Meyers) July 23 - Sarasota July 24 - July 26 Tampa, St. Petersburg July 27 - July 28 The Villages July 29 - Aug. 2 Tallahassee Aug. 3 - Aug. 5 NE FL Jax and surrounding area Aug. 6 - Aug. 7 Gainesville Aug. 8 - Aug. 10 Tallahassee Aug. 11 - 12 Pensacola Aug. 13 - 15 Panama City End EVI -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Greenpeace Rally
Specs: Weight 1964 pounds 995 cc engine lean burn 65 HP with auto stop & fuel cut 90 ft/pounds tourque @2000RPM Motor 10 KW brushless DC 2 levels of regen (off the gas & touch the brake) Top speed 112 MPH Battery .936 KW 48 pounds NiMH 144 Volts 120 cells Battery Warranty 8 years prorated 5 years 100% Battery cost $1227.00 2 Battery condition monitors Electric assist rack and pinion power steering Air conditioning with climate control Fuel capacity 10.6 gallons Fuel economy since new 60.3 MPG average Miles on the car 32,000 Longest run Fort Myers to Tennessee State line 610 miles refill $28.00 in gas 9.8 Gallons Best trip mileage 65 MPG (to Ohio) 2800 miles $110 TED - Original Message - From: Andrew To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Greenpeace Rally Hi Ted, Thank you both for taking the time to come to the Greenpeace rally, all the way from the west coast of Florida. We really need more people to come to these events and show support and make a positive impression. By the way, what are the specs for your hybrid? It's a good thing you get such good mpg. Andrew -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Ellyatt Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:56 PM To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Subject: [FLEAA] Greenpeace Rally Is anyone attending the Greenpeace rally tomorrow in jupiter? TED -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Greenpeace Rally
Is anyone attending the Greenpeace rally tomorrow in jupiter? TED___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Greenpeace in Jupiter
Hey, Is anyone going to Jupiter on Saturday? TED___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods
- Original Message - From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods > > Your pod concept probably should be carried another step and be used to > carry a motor generator to be used to extend the range for your all > electric > vehicle when you take it beyond a "normal range" of say 100 miles between > charges. Such a BEV+ could be sold with optional batteries to extend the > "stock" to longer range before a charge or a motor generator would be > needed. The motor generator itself could well be a rental / optional item > to reduce the purchase cost of the basic BEV+ car. > > Jim Baber - Fresno CA - > My interests are; P H E V vehicles, Solar Power, renewable energy, the > environment and C O P D issues. > > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:39 AM > To: 'eaa-phev' > Subject: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods > > > > Felix et al, > > In addition to pushing PHEV's to encourage energy efficiency, I > wonder if we should push another incentive that might also have > a significant affect on the US fuel consumption. That is, > "Car-pods" for small cars. > > Many people are unwilliing to go from an SUV down to an > economical small car because they occasionally need to carry > lots of junk. Either to the beach or to work. Therefore they > drive everyday and everywhere in a gas guzzling big car when > most of the time they don't need to carry all that empty space. > > The solution would be a mandate on all new small economical cars > to have a built-in 1" trailer hitch receiver. Having every > small economical car pre-configured with a modest built-in > structural tow hitch capability would help encourage people to > use small cars most of the time, but still be able to "tow" > their junk when needed. We could maybe involve U-Haul to also > promote this national campaign to "leave the junk at home except > when you need it"... > > In fact, the small car industry could even make aerodynamic > "pods" that attach to their car model that not only provide the > extra carrying capacity when needed, but do so with minimum > drag. Some small pods could even attach completely to the > receiver hitch and have no wheels and become part of the > aerodynamics which could actually improve the fuel efficiency in > some cases. > > PHEV's promote fuel efficiency by using gas only when needed. > The car-pod idea would similarly promote fuel efficiency by only > carrying add-on trunk space when needed too. I can envision > split-apart vehicles that can optimize this concept. Leave the > pod at home for comuting, but attach it on weekends as needed. > > This is a simple "thinking outside the "box" concept. > Detachable cargo space (pods) outside the box (small cars) might > be something we should be including in our designs. > > Or look at it this way. These days, most SUV's come with > built-in big 2" trailer hitch receivers. Why not outfit tiny > commuter cars with tiny 1" receivers. Then SELL the concept of > leaving our junk at home except when needed. > > Bob, WB4APR > > > > --- > The EAA-PHEV website is at http://www.eaa-phev.org > The list archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of: unsubscribe eaa-phev > > The EAA-PHEV list is intended primarily for the discussion of > the technical aspects of PHEV conversions. Other lists that > relate to more generic or specific PHEV topics include: > * http://www.greencarcongress.com -An online publications about green > cars. > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news -PHEV News from CalCars.org > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids -Info on gridable > hybrids. > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edrivephev -PHEV and EDrive group. > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hybridsplus -PHEV and Hybrids-Plus group. > For even more generic discussion of stock hybrid vehicles see the links > to specific forums for each vehicle at http://www.eaa-phev.org/wiki/Hybrid > > > > --- > The EAA-PHEV website is at http://www.eaa-phev.org > The list archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of: unsubscribe eaa-phev > > The EAA-PHEV list is intended primarily for the discussion of > the technical aspects of PHEV conversions. Other lists that > relate to more generic or specific PHEV topics include: > * http://www.greencarcongress.com -An online publications about green > cars. > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news -PHEV News from CalCars.org > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids -Info on gridable > hybrids. > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edrivephev -PHE
[FLEAA] Fw: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods
- Original Message - From: Brandon Galbraith To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods On 5/28/08, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your pod concept probably should be carried another step and be used to carry a motor generator to be used to extend the range for your all electric vehicle when you take it beyond a "normal range" of say 100 miles between charges. Such a BEV+ could be sold with optional batteries to extend the "stock" to longer range before a charge or a motor generator would be needed. The motor generator itself could well be a rental / optional item to reduce the purchase cost of the basic BEV+ car. Uhaul already makes a "pod" type of trailer called their "sport" trailer. It's aerodynamic and light: http://www.uhaul.com/trailers/ (on the right hand side of the page). Also, I don't know if they are selling them yet or not after a specific amount of miles are put on them, or even if you could buy them new outright from Uhaul, but you could easily install a small engine (3-4cyl or less) with a small amount of fuel, and run an electrical umbilical back to the PHEV. -brandon Jim Baber - Fresno CA - My interests are; P H E V vehicles, Solar Power, renewable energy, the environment and C O P D issues. -Original Message- From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:39 AM To: 'eaa-phev' Subject: [eaa-phev] Outside the box - car pods Felix et al, In addition to pushing PHEV's to encourage energy efficiency, I wonder if we should push another incentive that might also have a significant affect on the US fuel consumption. That is, "Car-pods" for small cars. Many people are unwilliing to go from an SUV down to an economical small car because they occasionally need to carry lots of junk. Either to the beach or to work. Therefore they drive everyday and everywhere in a gas guzzling big car when most of the time they don't need to carry all that empty space. The solution would be a mandate on all new small economical cars to have a built-in 1" trailer hitch receiver. Having every small economical car pre-configured with a modest built-in structural tow hitch capability would help encourage people to use small cars most of the time, but still be able to "tow" their junk when needed. We could maybe involve U-Haul to also promote this national campaign to "leave the junk at home except when you need it"... In fact, the small car industry could even make aerodynamic "pods" that attach to their car model that not only provide the extra carrying capacity when needed, but do so with minimum drag. Some small pods could even attach completely to the receiver hitch and have no wheels and become part of the aerodynamics which could actually improve the fuel efficiency in some cases. PHEV's promote fuel efficiency by using gas only when needed. The car-pod idea would similarly promote fuel efficiency by only carrying add-on trunk space when needed too. I can envision split-apart vehicles that can optimize this concept. Leave the pod at home for comuting, but attach it on weekends as needed. This is a simple "thinking outside the "box" concept. Detachable cargo space (pods) outside the box (small cars) might be something we should be including in our designs. Or look at it this way. These days, most SUV's come with built-in big 2" trailer hitch receivers. Why not outfit tiny commuter cars with tiny 1" receivers. Then SELL the concept of leaving our junk at home except when needed. Bob, WB4APR --- The EAA-PHEV website is at http://www.eaa-phev.org The list archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of: unsubscribe eaa-phev The EAA-PHEV list is intended primarily for the discussion of the technical aspects of PHEV conversions. Other lists that relate to more generic or specific PHEV topics include: * http://www.greencarcongress.com -An online publications about green cars. * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news -PHEV News from CalCars.org * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridable-hybrids -Info on gridable hybrids. * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/edrivephev -PHEV and EDrive group. * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hybridsplus -PHEV and Hybrids-Plus group. For even more generic discussion of stock hybrid vehicles see the links to specific forums for each vehicle at http://www.eaa-phev.org/wiki/Hybrid --- The EAA-PHEV website is at http://www.eaa-phev.org The list archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje
[FLEAA] donor car
Hi guys, Afriend has a 1995 garaged kept 4 cylingder nissan P/U truck with 107,000 miles in very good condition which would make super fabulous donor car for a electric project. She is looking to get $2100.00 for it. I there is any interest contact me ans I will put you in tough with her. TED 410-8826___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: Information Please
I am forwarding this request for someone interested in a conversion. Please feel free to forward this to anyone you think could help. TED - Original Message - From: "Walter & Olive Sergeant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Edward Ellyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: Information Please > The name of an old radio show serves well for my request. I would like to > strongly consider converting a vehicle, however, I am a little too old to > take on that project solo. So, I am looking for people within a > reasonable mileage area that are involved in such a project. I need to > learn more about it. I have been through most all of the info that I have > found on the web or has been sent my way. Our needs are such that we have > to be able to get something that will easily do 45 mph and have a easy > reach of say 50 miles between "fill ups". I lean towards a Ranger P/U, > stick shift of course. Seen an occasional ad for one in "good" condition > for under 5 K. Would probably get a 72 volt kit for it. Top speed and > acceleration is not any kind of priority, just good dependable > transportation. I see about 95% of our driving is within 10-12 miles > round trip. We have a '02 Explorer for anything else. Being retired > doesn't require much. Initially I see a 10 K budget could do the trick > for a vehicle, kit and batteries. Again, it is not a project that I would > take on solo. > Are you folks aware of any such activity within 50 miles of Ft. Myers? > Any of the schools - high or college - doing anything? Would appreciate > any input that you may have. Might add that buying a new Volt or > equivalent doesn't appear viable, as there is no need for a new new car. > Ours has about 53K on it and is in very good condition. Any input that > you may have would be appreciated. > > Walt Sergeant > 16301 Gemini Ct. > Ft.Myers, FL 33908 > 239-454-1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] S-10 Conversion
I missplaced the conversion link for the S-10 Chevy. Could someone give it to me again. Thanks, TED___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: FYI
- Original Message - From: Walter & Olive Sergeant To: Edward Ellyatt Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:46 AM Subject: FYI Electric Nissans Planned in U.S. by 2010 By EDWARD TAYLOR May 2, 2008; Page B2 CASCAIS, Portugal -- Nissan Motor Co. Chief Executive Carlos Ghosn said he is preparing to take advantage of a "mass market" in electric vehicles he expects to emerge by 2012. Nissan, an alliance partner of Renault SA of France, will launch electric vehicles in the U.S. and Japan in 2010, and globally by 2012, Mr. Ghosn said at a Nissan event in Portugal. He said he expects the market for electric vehicles to grow strongly due to high oil prices, a new awareness of environmental issues and breakthroughs in battery technology. Eventually, Nissan "will have a whole lineup of electric cars," he said. "The electric car is not a niche product for us." Mr. Ghosn said battery-technology advances have given the electric car sufficient range to make it a viable mode of transport for the shorter journeys often made by commuters in big cities. Globally about 10 million vehicles are being used in this way, he said. High oil prices and the willingness of governments to give tax incentives for so-called zero-emission vehicles can change the economics of owning an electric car and make it "cheaper than gasoline," Mr. Ghosn said. Nissan and Renault are in talks with "companies, governments and cities," to see what kind of incentives can make the introduction of zero-emission vehicles more attractive, he said. Mr. Ghosn expects new areas of business will open as electric vehicles become more widespread, including making the batteries and providing access to batteries and electricity. Moving beyond merely making cars could see "a change of the business model" in the auto industry. "In some ways it could move more toward how a mobile-phone operator works, because there the handset is only one part of the business; the rest is providing services to customers," said Mr. Ghosn. One drawback of electric vehicles has been battery capacity, limiting their range. Another is that recharging a battery traditionally takes hours, far longer than to refuel a car with gasoline. Nissan and Renault are looking at ways to fix that. Renault will use a battery provided by Nissan for an electric vehicle to be launched in Israel, Mr. Ghosn said. Mr. Ghosn reiterated that Nissan is open to expanding its alliance with Renault to other car companies, but he said that would happen only if it created value for Renault and Nissan's stakeholders. Write to Edward Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site
GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site - Original Message - From: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site BREAKING: First Lithium-ion Prototype Chevy Volt Running Posted: 24 Apr 2008 08:34 AM CDT The Detroit News today reported an interview with GM vice-chairman Bob Lutz. Lutz verified for the first time publicly that a Chevy Volt prototype with an actual full-sized lithium ion battery is... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]] Is GM Really Building the Volt So it Can Sell More Gas Guzzlers? Posted: 23 Apr 2008 08:37 PM CDT An editorial appeared today in the Wall Street Journal entitled "A Volt Out of the Red". It was written in reaction to the transportation department’s proposal yesterday that cars be... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]] You are subscribed to email updates from GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email Delivery powered by FeedBurner Inbox too full? Subscribe to the feed version of GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site in a feed reader. If you prefer to unsubscribe via postal mail, write to: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site, c/o FeedBurner, 20 W Kinzie, 9th Floor, Chicago IL USA 60610 ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Andrew's TV interview
Good for you Andrew. I sure would like to see it. Got a link? - Original Message - From: Andrew To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'FLEAA Mailing List' Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Andrew's TV interview Hello Everyone, The story behind the story is I got a call from Lesley Dale at WPBF News Channel 25 to do a series of live shots from 5am to 6am. I'm not a morning person, and I'm definitely not an early morning person, but for EVs I'll drag myself out of bed at 3am to make a deadline. It was definitely worth it, and I'm hoping one of the TV stations I'm working with will continue to follow the EV movement and carry a series of interviews with other members and their EVs. R. Andrew Roddy Public Relations Florida Electric Auto Association -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Graham Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:58 AM To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Subject: [FLEAA] Andrew's TV interview My day was made more interesting today when I got to enjoy Andrew Roddy's interview on WPBF TV this morning. Great job, Andrew! That's really good publicity for the Florida EAA! Matt Graham -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
[FLEAA] Fw: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site
GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site - Original Message - From: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:16 PM Subject: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site Even Chevy Volt Battery Suppliers Surprised at GM’s Volt Aggressiveness Posted: 15 Apr 2008 08:43 PM CDT The automotive lithium-ion battery industry is in it’s infancy. Aside for some relatively small companies making limited production prototypes, there will likely be no substantial lithium-ion... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]] You are subscribed to email updates from GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email Delivery powered by FeedBurner Inbox too full? Subscribe to the feed version of GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site in a feed reader. If you prefer to unsubscribe via postal mail, write to: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site, c/o FeedBurner, 20 W Kinzie, 9th Floor, Chicago IL USA 60610 ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Fw: Clean Cars coalition sign-on letter
I signed onTED - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: [FLEAA] Fw: Clean Cars coalition sign-on letter Shawn, I am sending this to the list, but I really want it to go to you to see if we should have you contact Holly to sign the FLEAA on as a group. ALso, maybe we should ask her what else we can do to expedite this? What do you think? Maybe everyone already knows about this but me? Fran -Original Message- From: Holly Binns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Holly Binns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:47 am Subject: Clean Cars coalition sign-on letter Dear Colleagues, Right now, the Florida Department of Environmental Protection is developing a rule to implement the Clean Cars Program in Florida. The Clean Cars program would significantly reduce tailpipe emissions of global warming and other harmful air pollutants from cars and trucks, and is an important component of Governor Crist’s goal of making Florida a leader in reducing global warming pollution. An Environment Florida analysis found that implementing the Clean Cars program in Florida will reduce global warming emissions by an amount equal to removing 13.8 million of today’s cars from the road for a year, and save consumers over $4 billion at the gas pump when it is fully implemented in 2020. Unfortunately, the auto industry is lobbying hard to convince Governor Crist and the DEP to back off of their commitment to join twelve other states in implementing the Clean Cars program here in Florida. That’s why we need your help. Pasted below is a sign-on letter to DEP Secretary Sole, encouraging the DEP to move forward with adopting the Clean Cars program. Our plan is to submit this letter to the DEP as part of the official public comment record in order to demonstrate the broad support for Clean Cars from environmental, public health and consumer groups. Please take a moment to read the letter, and email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to sign onto the letter with your name, title and the name of your organization. I would like to have all signers on the letter by Friday, April 18th. For more information on the Clean Cars program, visit our website at http://www.environmentflorida.org/issues/global-warming/cleaner-cars-for-florida or the DEP website at http://www.floridadep.org/air/rules/ghg/california.htm. Thanks for your consideration. Holly Binns *** Holly Binns Environment Florida, Field Director [EMAIL PROTECTED] 850-224-5944 Office 850-322-7845 Cell www.EnvironmentFlorida.org March 28, 2008 To: Secretary Mike Sole, Florida Department of Environmental Protection Official Public Comments Regarding: Rule Title: Adoption of California Motor Vehicle Standards Rule #: 62-285.400 __ Dear Secretary Sole, We, the undersigned organizations, strongly support the Florida Department of Environmental Protection’s proposal to adopt the California Motor Vehicles Standards, also known as the Clean Cars program. Scientists have said we need to reduce the pollution that causes global warming by 80% over the next 50 years. Governor Crist has taken a bold first step by laying out a plan that makes Florida a leader in that effort. One of the most important parts of that plan is the adoption of the Clean Cars Program, which sets limits on global warming pollution from cars, light trucks and SUVs. In adopting the Clean Cars Program, Florida will join 12 other states—California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington. Transportation is Florida’s second largest source of carbon dioxide pollution—responsible for more than 42% of the state’s emissions in 2004.[1] And because there are more cars on the road and people are driving more, the problem is only getting worse. In Florida, the Clean Cars program would cut global warming pollution 54.4 million metric tons by 2020—the equivalent of removing 13.8 million of today’s cars from the road for a year.[2] In addition, vehicle exhaust creates ground-level ozone, an air pollutant that impacts public health conditions like asthma and lung disease. Nationally, cars, pick-up trucks, vans and SUVs are responsible for nearly one-half of all smog emissions, exposure to which has been linked to increased hospital emergency room visits, asthma attacks and perhaps to the onset of asthma itself.[3] The Clean Cars program is not only an effective tool to curb global warming pollution, but will also reduce harmful air pollution, particularly in congested urban areas.[4] On behalf of our members and supporters, we thank you and Governor Crist
Re: [FLEAA] April 11-12 schedule of events in Miami w/ ChelseaSexton
Fran, Do you know what your route is going to be and were you are getting to eventually? TED - Original Message - From: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] April 11-12 schedule of events in Miami w/ ChelseaSexton > TED, We want hybrids on the S. FL trip in June & July as we will be > addressing a diverse group and will want to show the whole spectrum of > EVs. > So remember us then! Fran > - Original Message - > From: "Edward Ellyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [FLEAA] April 11-12 schedule of events in Miami w/ > ChelseaSexton > > >> Charles, I will have my Honda Insight Hybrid. Do you want to include it >> or >> do you have enough pure electrics? TED >> - Original Message - >> From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Florida EAA" >> Cc: "Paul Liddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Ingram" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:13 AM >> Subject: [FLEAA] April 11-12 schedule of events in Miami w/ Chelsea >> Sexton >> >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Here below is the schedule of events with Chelsea Sexton this weekend in >>> Miami. Everyone is welcome at both events, which are open to the public >>> and >>> free of charge. All EVs are welcome and encouraged to participate at >>> both >>> events; the more the merrier! >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Charles Whalen >>> Florida EAA >>> >>> >>> Friday, April 11 >>> -- >>> Miami City Hall >>> 3500 Pan American Drive >>> Miami, FL 33133 >>> >>> 5:00-6:45pm: Electric car Ride 'n Drive demonstrations in front of >>> Miami >>> City Hall with Chelsea Sexton, Miami City Commissioners, City Hall >>> staff, >>> and the public. All EVs are welcome and encouraged to participate in >>> this >>> Ride 'n Drive demonstration. >>> >>> 6:50-7:00pm: Opening/welcoming remarks by Miami City Commissioner Marc >>> Sarnoff and David Whitman of Fairchild Tropical Garden. Inside Miami >>> City >>> Hall. >>> >>> 7:00-8:30pm: Showing of the film "Who Killed the Electric Car?". >>> Inside >>> Miami City Hall. >>> >>> 8:30-9:00pm: Question & Answer with Chelsea Sexton, immediately >>> following >>> the film. Inside Miami City Hall. >>> >>> >>> Saturday, April 12 >>> - >>> Fairchild Tropical Garden >>> 10901 Old Cutler Road >>> Coral Gables, FL 33156 >>> >>> There are two entrances to Fairchild Garden, a north entrance and a >>> south >>> entrance. You should use the south entrance, which is where the event >>> is >>> being held. >>> >>> All electric cars should be in place at Fairchild Garden by 11:00am. >>> >>> 11:30am-12:15pm & 2:15-3:00pm: Ride 'n Drive demonstrations of electric >>> cars, outside near the Garden House. All EVs are welcome and encouraged >>> to >>> participate in this Ride 'n Drive demo. >>> >>> 12:15-1:00pm: Presentation by Chelsea Sexton, electric vehicle activist >>> featured in the award-winning documentary film "Who Killed the Electric >>> Car?". In the Corbin Building. >>> >>> 1:00-1:30pm: Miami-Dade County high school students will be setting up >>> their research projects for judging, and the judges will be in >>> orientation >>> sessions. Good time for a lunch break for us is 1:00-2:00pm. >>> >>> 1:30-3:00pm: Research Projects Showcase. Garden House and lawn. >>> Miami-Dade County high school students competing in the annual Fairchild >>> Challenge present their innovative research projects in five areas: >>> >>> Green cuisine >>> Everglades "skyways" models >>> Solar inventions, widgets, gizmos >>> "Dream in Green" school energy audits >>> Seed germination: Florida native plants >>> >>> 3:00-3:30pm: Closing ceremony >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Florida EAA mailing list >>> listserv@floridaeaa.org >>> http://www.floridaeaa.org >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> listserv@floridaeaa.org >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] April 11-12 schedule of events in Miami w/ Chelsea Sexton
Charles, I will have my Honda Insight Hybrid. Do you want to include it or do you have enough pure electrics? TED - Original Message - From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Florida EAA" Cc: "Paul Liddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Ingram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:13 AM Subject: [FLEAA] April 11-12 schedule of events in Miami w/ Chelsea Sexton > Hi everyone, > > Here below is the schedule of events with Chelsea Sexton this weekend in > Miami. Everyone is welcome at both events, which are open to the public > and > free of charge. All EVs are welcome and encouraged to participate at both > events; the more the merrier! > > Best regards, > > Charles Whalen > Florida EAA > > > Friday, April 11 > -- > Miami City Hall > 3500 Pan American Drive > Miami, FL 33133 > > 5:00-6:45pm: Electric car Ride 'n Drive demonstrations in front of Miami > City Hall with Chelsea Sexton, Miami City Commissioners, City Hall staff, > and the public. All EVs are welcome and encouraged to participate in this > Ride 'n Drive demonstration. > > 6:50-7:00pm: Opening/welcoming remarks by Miami City Commissioner Marc > Sarnoff and David Whitman of Fairchild Tropical Garden. Inside Miami City > Hall. > > 7:00-8:30pm: Showing of the film "Who Killed the Electric Car?". Inside > Miami City Hall. > > 8:30-9:00pm: Question & Answer with Chelsea Sexton, immediately following > the film. Inside Miami City Hall. > > > Saturday, April 12 > - > Fairchild Tropical Garden > 10901 Old Cutler Road > Coral Gables, FL 33156 > > There are two entrances to Fairchild Garden, a north entrance and a south > entrance. You should use the south entrance, which is where the event is > being held. > > All electric cars should be in place at Fairchild Garden by 11:00am. > > 11:30am-12:15pm & 2:15-3:00pm: Ride 'n Drive demonstrations of electric > cars, outside near the Garden House. All EVs are welcome and encouraged > to > participate in this Ride 'n Drive demo. > > 12:15-1:00pm: Presentation by Chelsea Sexton, electric vehicle activist > featured in the award-winning documentary film "Who Killed the Electric > Car?". In the Corbin Building. > > 1:00-1:30pm: Miami-Dade County high school students will be setting up > their research projects for judging, and the judges will be in orientation > sessions. Good time for a lunch break for us is 1:00-2:00pm. > > 1:30-3:00pm: Research Projects Showcase. Garden House and lawn. > Miami-Dade County high school students competing in the annual Fairchild > Challenge present their innovative research projects in five areas: > > Green cuisine > Everglades "skyways" models > Solar inventions, widgets, gizmos > "Dream in Green" school energy audits > Seed germination: Florida native plants > > 3:00-3:30pm: Closing ceremony > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Saturday Meeting
What time do the Friday evening festivities start and what time Saturday Morning. Bobbie and I will be coming over from Fort Myers with the Honda Insight and looking for a place to stay over. I really am a fan of Chelsea and would love to meet her.=TED - Original Message - From: "Paul Renneisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Saturday Meeting > Have a brief meeting in conjunction with the event. A great opportunity > to recruit new members as well. > > Venue? Circle the electric cars and set up chairs, enjoy. Adjourn. > Could be fun. > > Paul > > > Hi All, >> >> >> >> Are we going to have a monthly meeting this month if Chelsea is going to >> be >> in Miami Friday and Saturday? >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> ___ >> Florida EAA mailing list >> listserv@floridaeaa.org >> http://www.floridaeaa.org >> > > > > ___ > Florida EAA mailing list > listserv@floridaeaa.org > http://www.floridaeaa.org > ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] Green Market
Meeting this Saturday? TED - Original Message - From: Andrew To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: [FLEAA] Green Market Hello Everyone, The Green Market was a good event Saturday, with lots of people attending and lots of interest in electric vehicles. My eBox was there and Paul Renneisen was able to attend with David Turock's RAV4-EV. David bought one of Charles Whalen's RAV4-EV chargers after his failed to function properly. I doubt Paul could have made it to the Green Market, or anywhere else with the RAV4-EV if Charles hadn't helped out. Thanks to Paul, Charles and David for their dedication to the EV movement, we need more people like them to keep things going. I just wish more members and EV enthusiasts would show up at these events. Best Regards, R. Andrew Roddy Public Relations Florida Electric Auto Association -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day
Of the presidential candidates Hillary seem to be the most ardent supporter of EV's, Battery Technology, etc. She is willing to put the support of the Federal Government behind companies making EV's and rebates to those who purchase. You are all correct though about the individual candidates not their party. Imagine if Bush had not declared himself the winner where we would be with Al Gore at the helm. We would all be driving EV's already and charging them with rooftop solar and wind turbines. Take Care TED - Original Message - From: "Charles Whalen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fran Sullivan-Fahs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FLEAA Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] FAU Environment Awareness Day > Fran, > > I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have never seen EVs as a partisan > political issue and don't believe it is or rightly can be characterized > that > way. Of the hundreds of people I know who drive EVs, work in the EV > industry, etc., it's amazing how fairly evenly split they are between > Democrats and Republicans. And it's also amazing how polite and courteous > they all toward each other and how civil the discourse is between them > all, > even the somewhat more politically-tending discourse. There's a good > reason > for that. It's because EVs are the one thing that unites us all -- > Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Independents, third parties, > etc. I myself am an Independent and am not a partisan political type. > But > I have always exercised my right to vote, which I feel is an important > civic > duty and responsibility. And I am interested in getting involved in the > political process for the purpose of advocating and promoting our cause -- > EVs. In particular, I am interested, willing, and passionate about > actively > supporting any politician, of whatever stripe or party (it doesn't matter > and makes no difference to me), who supports EVs. In this campaign > season, > I am actively supporting, and financially contributing to, two politicians > (in both of whose respective voting districts I live) who are EV > supporters -- one a Democrat, Paul Renneisen for Congress in Florida's > 22nd > District, and the other a Republican, my state representative, Adam > Hasner, > who has long been and continues to be the leader and strongest supporter > of > Alternative Fuel initiatives in the Florida State House of > Representatives. > I am extremely impressed with Rep. Hasner, whom I met in Tallahassee last > week, and his knowledge of and passion for EVs. He and his wife both > drive > hybrids back at home here in the district, in Boca Raton. It turns out > that Rep. Hasner has got some key inside connections at Tesla and knows a > lot more than I do about what's going on inside Tesla. Adam is a big EV > fan > and enthusiast. > > This EV thing has never been a Democrat vs. Republican partisan issue. It > is far too important and critical to our nation's future than that. > Smart, > intelligent, knowledgeable, well-informed politicians like Democrat Paul > Renneisen and Republican Adam Hasner recognize that and the fact that this > is a *national* issue that is way above petty partisan politics. I can > tell > you from knowing and working with both of them, that smart, savvy > Democrats > like Paul Renneisen and smart, savvy Republicans like Adam Hasner have a > lot > more in common than they do that separates them. We are all in this > struggle together -- Democrats, Republicans, Libertariains, Greens, and > Independents -- first and foremost as AMERICANS!!! > > There is, quite unfortunately, one particular EV discussion list where > there > are a sizeable number of people who lack the education, intellect, > intelligence, and maturity to discuss political issues surrounding EVs in > a > civil, courteous manner without the discussion degenerating into personal > insults, attacks, and flame wars. I am very happy and proud that we here > in > the Florida EAA have never had such problems and that we all exhibit the > kind of maturity and intelligence to engage in civil discussion. Having > said that, I do however think it is probably a waste of our time and > bandwidth, and basically irrelevant to us, to engage in any kind of > extended > political discussions that stray off topic from EVs. But on the other > hand, > I do think it's appropriate and relevant to our FLEAA discussion list to > at > least acknowledge those politicians in our state, like Democrat Paul > Renneisen and Republicans Adam Hasner and Lee Constantine, who are > enthusiastic EV supporters. One may or may not vote for any one of them > due > to other, unrelated issues, which we need not discuss here, but I think we > all support their respective championing of the EV & Alt. Fuel cause and > thank them for their contributions in that field. I myself never voted > for > President George W. Bush, because I have always di
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Re: [FLEAA] Several articles on ZAP
There is a zap pickup truck in North Fort Myers. It has a top speed of 45 miles per hour but that is all I know about it. Oh ya is has 3 wheels. TED - Original Message - From: Shawn Waggoner (FLEAA) To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Several articles on ZAP Yeah, these about accurate. Zap may in fact release a few vehicles and I think one of the FLEAA members in the Daytona area has a 3 wheel Zap car. I'll let them and any others familiar with their products personally comment on quality. But overall, Zap seems pretty well known for lots of Hype and not a lot of cars. Some of the Execs' business practices can be described as 'shady' at best. (Just my opinions.) Shawn -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:51 PM To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Subject: [FLEAA] Several articles on ZAP Wired Magazine (www.wired.com) has just posted several articles on the EV manufacturer ZAP. The articles dont paint the company in a good light, but Wired says that ZAP didnt reply to them to clarify details. Maybe someone can comment on the accuracy of these articles. Main article: http://www.wired.com/cars/futuretransport/magazine/16-04/ff_zapped Mini article (by a different author): http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/03/the-zap-x-and-a.html Note: read the comments following this article. Graphic of ZAPs stock market fluctuations: http://www.wired.com/special_multimedia/2008/ff_zapped_stock Regards, Cris -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
Re: [FLEAA] listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3
I would sure sign such a petition. Edward Ellyatt - Original Message - From: Fran Sullivan-Fahs To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 In PLug In Hybrids by Sherry Boschert she talks about the probability/possibility that Texaco is suppressing the NiMH batteries for spurious reasons. (They have that patent.) I think that the probability is high that this is the case. Right now it should become a matter of national security that this patent be released as it is so important in the development of the EV. What if we circulated a petition to bring light on this issue? Could that force Texaco's reluctant hand? Fran - Original Message - From: Edward Ellyatt To: FLEAA Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 How to politically push Texaco to make Nickel Metal Hydride batteries available. - Original Message - From: GM Kuzma To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 Hi everyone, Well, I emailed Danielle Dubetz at WPTV and explained to her how I felt about her covering EV's. I included my feelings as an Iraqi War veteran and how I am all for alternative fuel resources. Now, she wants to interview me on camera. My brother, Scott, gave me some good tips about points I should mention. Does anyone else have anything they'd like me to try to "plug in" for this potential interview? Thanks. -=GM=- Gregory M. Kuzma Freelance Writer Cell: 210-363-7069 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 1:00 pm Subject: listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 Send listserv mailing list submissions to listserv@floridaeaa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://floridaeaa.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_floridaeaa.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of listserv digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Assistance Needed (Andrew) 2. Mini WKtEC viewing (Kathleen Robinson) 3. Re: Mini WKtEC viewing ( Matt Graham ) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:38:46 -0500 From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FLEAA] Assistance Needed To: "'FLEAA Mailing List'" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Everyone, I would like to ask a big favor from everyone. As electric vehicles are becoming more recognized and understood, the media is taking notice. Most coverage comes from the internet, some from print media, but now it's even on the evening news. I think we should all do our best to cultivate a good relationship with the media as the opportunity arises. Danielle Dubetz from WPTV News Channel 5 did a great story on the AC Propulsion eBox, along with her camera crew and support staff. It would be really helpful if everyone would send her an email to thank her for the great coverage, along with their name and where they are from; and also to encourage her to continue to cover electric vehicles in the future. I'm sure she and her staff would be impressed to see how far her story has gone. We should not underestimate the power of positive feedback. We all need support in our efforts to improve our lives and our standard of living, and hopefully have some fun in the process. By the way, it was Danielle who pitched the idea to her boss and followed through with the story to its completion. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Best Regards, Andrew Roddy Public Relations Florida Electric Auto Association -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://floridaeaa.org/mailman/private/listserv_floridaeaaorg/attachments/20080302/35cfd4ec/attachment.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:33:02 -0500 From: Kathleen Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FLEAA] Mini WKtEC viewing To: FLEAA Mailing List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I watched Who Killed the Electric Car with my mom and grandmother on Saturday night. It made my mom cry. I had seen it twice already, the first time I saw it in theaters it just was upsetting; the second time I watched it, it made me cry. This time, I am
Re: [FLEAA] listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3
How to politically push Texaco to make Nickel Metal Hydride batteries available. - Original Message - From: GM Kuzma To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FLEAA] listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 Hi everyone, Well, I emailed Danielle Dubetz at WPTV and explained to her how I felt about her covering EV's. I included my feelings as an Iraqi War veteran and how I am all for alternative fuel resources. Now, she wants to interview me on camera. My brother, Scott, gave me some good tips about points I should mention. Does anyone else have anything they'd like me to try to "plug in" for this potential interview? Thanks. -=GM=- Gregory M. Kuzma Freelance Writer Cell: 210-363-7069 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserv@floridaeaa.org Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 1:00 pm Subject: listserv Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 Send listserv mailing list submissions to listserv@floridaeaa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://floridaeaa.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_floridaeaa.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of listserv digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Assistance Needed (Andrew) 2. Mini WKtEC viewing (Kathleen Robinson) 3. Re: Mini WKtEC viewing ( Matt Graham ) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:38:46 -0500 From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FLEAA] Assistance Needed To: "'FLEAA Mailing List'" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Everyone, I would like to ask a big favor from everyone. As electric vehicles are becoming more recognized and understood, the media is taking notice. Most coverage comes from the internet, some from print media, but now it's even on the evening news. I think we should all do our best to cultivate a good relationship with the media as the opportunity arises. Danielle Dubetz from WPTV News Channel 5 did a great story on the AC Propulsion eBox, along with her camera crew and support staff. It would be really helpful if everyone would send her an email to thank her for the great coverage, along with their name and where they are from; and also to encourage her to continue to cover electric vehicles in the future. I'm sure she and her staff would be impressed to see how far her story has gone. We should not underestimate the power of positive feedback. We all need support in our efforts to improve our lives and our standard of living, and hopefully have some fun in the process. By the way, it was Danielle who pitched the idea to her boss and followed through with the story to its completion. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Best Regards, Andrew Roddy Public Relations Florida Electric Auto Association -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://floridaeaa.org/mailman/private/listserv_floridaeaa.org/attachments/20080302/35cfd4ec/attachment.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:33:02 -0500 From: Kathleen Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FLEAA] Mini WKtEC viewing To: FLEAA Mailing List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I watched Who Killed the Electric Car with my mom and grandmother on Saturday night. It made my mom cry. I had seen it twice already, the first time I saw it in theaters it just was upsetting; the second time I watched it, it made me cry. This time, I am just kind of confused why car manufacturers aren't selling plug-in hybrids already, we need them now! My grandmother is borrowing it from me to show it on her retirement community's TV channel, yay! I'm not currently a member, but now that I know I'll be in FL for at least the next year, I want to join. I had a question about membership though, online there is only one option: National EAA (FL chapter) $39; but on the .pdf form there are 3 options: FLEAA only $25, National EAA only $37, and FLEAA and National EAA $50. I'm guessing the online option is the same as the second option on the form? What's the difference between the options? Thanks, Katie Robinson eighty40.com -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:54:19 + From: " Matt Graham " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [FLEAA] Mini WKtEC viewing To: "FLEAA Mailing List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Hi Katie, Our online form is out of date, especially since the Florida EAA board just voted to match the National membership setup. It will be best to just join a
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Re: [FLEAA] Blind advocates lobby for noisier hybrid cars
Agreed.. - Original Message - From: Shawn Waggoner (FLEAA) To: 'FLEAA Mailing List' Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: [FLEAA] Blind advocates lobby for noisier hybrid cars Hi Everyone, I have heard this argument brought up a few times over the last year, and have been hearing it made more and more over the last couple of months. It seems the 'advocates' are making great headway with the media and getting great attention. While I agree that some hybrids and EV's are hard to hear, I think mandating that cars produce noise is not the right answer. What do you guys think? I personally enjoy the silence of driving an EV around. The driver should be responsible enough to observe his/her surroundings while driving. http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9874568-7.html?tag=nefd.pulse Shawn -- ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org ___ Florida EAA mailing list listserv@floridaeaa.org http://www.floridaeaa.org
