Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
Norm, I tried googling the FDU-2 but just came up with a bunch of graduation photo's on YouTube. But when I googled the BRCU20-2 Google brought me to these guys. They're a Western US chain so at least you're talking about domestic UPS shipping or something. Has to be less than the $200 shipping the Canadian company quoted. http://www.platt.com/search.aspx?q=brcu20-2 Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Norm Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 7:42 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components Ahoy All, I am having problems locating an electrical box in the States that seems to be a common item in Canada. ebhorsman.com shows a bunch of stores southwestern Canada. The item is a two-gang, deep, blank (no holes for wires) plastic outlet box. Could be used for two switches or outlets and is extra deep at 3. Surface mount with four mounting tabs on the back. Model is FDU-2 (another model name: 077649). I need three each with blank covers, BRCU20-2 (or 077359). I did talk to the e b horsman company and was told that shipping would be at least $200! Can anyone help me? Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 23.8N 081 25.7W ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
Soap will attract moisture, and hence promote rot. Soap is a land-based carpenters trick and works well there, but on a boat not such a good idea. Get a 'wax toilet' ring and you will have all the lubricant you need for a very long time. -al- -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Norm Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 8:26 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components Ahoy Gentlemen, I read somewhere that soap has ingredients that damage wood; beeswax or paraffin is better SNIP ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
I use the stub from a bees wax candle for wood screws and anhydrous lanolin (Lanacote) for stainless into aluminum and just about anything that screws together that I might want to take apart later. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 12:42:53PM -0700, Al Thomason wrote: Soap will attract moisture, and hence promote rot. Soap is a land-based carpenters trick and works well there, but on a boat not such a good idea. In theory, yes. In practice? We're talking about an essentially invisible coating of soap on a screw... somewhere between a milligram and a microgram total. The amount of water it would attract is less than the amount that you'll exhale onto that screw while driving it. I've used soap, WD-40, and a number of other things I've forgotten - probably wax at some point, since I have it for zipper lube. *Any* kind of lube will do; the point is to use some in this situation. The type doesn't really matter. Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
thanks for everyone's feedback and expertise on this topic. I bit the bullet and purchased the 50A, 120/240V dockside to two 30A ship side Y splitters. According to Marinco, this will do the job should I find myself in a slip with 50A dockside power. The issue is that, evidently there are TWO types of dockside 50A service! Most newer marinas, or those with slips for larger yachts have the 120/240 50A pedestals. However, and here's the rub, the older 50A pedestals are wired for just 50A-120V service, and not the 50A-120/240V service. And naturally, they've got different plugs. Since nobody except the marine industry uses these kinds of plugs, I'm back to square one in trying to find an inexpensive adapter which would let me use my 50A-120/240V plug in a 50A-120V older pedestal/service. From what I can tell, I should be okay except for older (or smaller) marinas. And the reality is that since we usually anchor out and rarely head into a slip while cruising, we've only run across this scenario once or twice a season - if that. Most of the time, on those rare occasions when we do find ourselves in a slip, it's served by a 30A pedestal so we're good. If there's only one 30A plug then we plug into ship-side Bus-1 and panel flip the breakers to parallel Bus-1 and Bus-2 and run the a/c (along with everything else) without issues. If there are two 30A pedestal plugs then we use two cords, one to Bus-1 and one to Bus-2 which lets us keep the a/c going and at the same time run the water tank heater element. If we're paralleling the buses with only one cord to the boat then it's and either/or situation between the water tank element or the a/c and the a/c wins every time and we'll use the showers at wherever we've pulled in. Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Bob Johnson Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 7:16 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components Here is a link to a chart of all the options http://www.elecordset.com/twistlockplugs-powercordsets.aspx . WW Grainger has them here http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/twist-lock-devices/plugs-and-receptacles/el ectrical/ecatalog/N-8dp Bob PDQ 36 Peace -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of SteveW Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:55 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components Well, Ben, I stopped by the HD and there was absolutely nothing resembling anything that would match up with the prongs on the male end (the 50A pedestal side). The guy working the electric department happened to own a boat so he, at least, knew what the hell I was talking about. Guess what his recommendation was - look it up in a Marinco or West Marine catalog... So I figured I completed the circle and am now back where I started from. Fortunately I don't get slips a lot when cruising (I prefer my own hook or a mooring ball) but from asking around I'm getting the impression that most marinas - at least in my cruising area (L.I. Sound, Block, Newport, P-town, etc.) - all have 50A 120/240V pedestals. I'll keep it on board for the just in cases but for the most part, over the years I've been able to get into slips with 30A service. But enough of this. we're heading out Monday for the week and, at least at this point, aren't planning on any marinas Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Ben Okopnik Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:14 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:24:03AM -0400, SteveW wrote: As it turns out, Ben, I'm sneaking out of the office early this afternoon to go to the boat to some some maintenance (replacing the stock water pump) and there's a Home Depot 10 minutes from the yard. I'll stop in and cruise their electric department to see what they've got. Good recommendation! Good luck - I hope the plug that I remember is the one that fits your needs! Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
How about the option of not stopping at those marinas? If enough people avoid them, they might either modernize or have spare adapter available for no charge. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
Ahoy Gentlemen, I read somewhere that soap has ingredients that damage wood; beeswax or paraffin is better. Personally, I use wax wire that is used by jewelers to make sprues when casting by lost wax method. It comes in spools like safety wire. I get it from Jan but you can buy it from Rio Grande jewelry supply. They also sell a stick of wax jewelers use to lubricate their saw blades. I always drill pilot and clearance holes and put a little piece of the wax wire into the hole before setting the screw. I found that if I just rub wax on the screw threads it gets wiped off as the screw goes into the wood. I use stainless sheet metal screws for wood fasteners. I got my gallon of Moly Dee (not Moly-B) years ago while in Charleston from a supply house in Colombia SC but I just Googled it and the following URL has it for $18 for a 16 oz can. http://www.nolansupply.com/bysubcategory.asp?category=Fluids+and+Lubessupercategory=Tapping+Fluidssubcategory=Moly-Dee+Tapping+Fluidtype=Falsespecs=True Welding through a nut is a new one for me, thanks Steve. We should start a collection of these tips: The Livaboard List Book of Wisdom Moly-Dee and wire wax have done well for me. How about tying a knot in the positive wire, (or a red tie wrap if it is too big for a knot). The wire spacer method for making a perfect form-in-place gasket. A paragraph or three on diesel fuel systems. I wonder if there is a way to have an on-line data base that we could simply add to, like Wikipedia? -- Driving screws into a bar of soap before putting them in wood, welding through a nut to put a head onto a broken bolt, waxing a saw blade, using monkey dung for holding any screw to a screwdriver and using Moly-B to drill stainless... thousands of these things that make up a very solid base of knowledge, and I'm truly grateful to all those blue-collar wizards. (Which reminds me - thanks again for the lifetime supply of Moly-B, Norm! I was wondering where I could find some...) Steve W ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 11:26:07AM -0400, Norm wrote: How about tying a knot in the positive wire, (or a red tie wrap if it is too big for a knot). Doesn't that confuse them little electron thingies running through them wires? I mean, I thought that's what DIRECT current meant - ya gotta keep them wires as straight as you can! Also, don't set your batteries on the ground, or even concrete. That GROUNDS THEM OUT, and then they won't be any good. Kinda like snap peas towards the end of the harvest - all wrinkly and limp, and not much flavor... (Maybe we should start a Bad Advice wiki, too. :) I wonder if there is a way to have an on-line data base that we could simply add to, like Wikipedia? Easy enough: http://okopnik.com/LAwiki Your last post has been added under Mechanical Tips. Anyone who would like to add to the Wiki, please contact me for a password. :) Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 11:28:38AM -0400, Norm wrote: Sorry Ben. I just discovered I attributed your text of wisdom to Steve... I get so much of that from the List I get confused sometimes No worries - it's all good. Long as the info gets out there. :) Actually, I remember where I got that particular bit of info - and even more importantly, how it changed my thinking. Back in my car-racing days, I had snapped off a hardened stud in a freshly-blueprinted Chevy engine block, and was frantically picking over the possibilities for getting it out: Nope, No Way, and YOU LOSE, SUCKER!!! After a few days of this, I dragged it over to a machine shop, hoping against hope that they might have some magic tool that I'd never heard of, and that they wouldn't charge me more than a couple of hundred bucks... and the guy acted like it was nothing at all. Flipped on the buzz box, dropped a nut on top of the hole (the stud had actually snapped below the surface), and welded it right to the stub. A couple of quick turns with the wrench, and out it came. When it comes to wrenching on mechanical bits, we tend to think in terms of subtractive action: cut, file, drill, grind. The additive stuff beyond screw this to that - roll-pinning, shaft keys, Heli-Coils, friction-fitting, welding - doesn't normally come to mind, for most folks. My take-home from this episode was, don't forget about the additive stuff. *Lots* of good solutions in that direction. Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
Wow Ben, That's a nice thing to do for the group. I hope the posts will explain the whys as well, such as, why tie a knot in the positive wire, and what does wax do for wood screws, or why does placing a battery on the ground or concrete ground them out? Craig Scott AE6E S/V Savor Grace Searunner 37 The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who dont do anything about it. Albert Einstein _ -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of Ben Okopnik Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 13:27 To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 11:26:07AM -0400, Norm wrote: How about tying a knot in the positive wire, (or a red tie wrap if it is too big for a knot). Doesn't that confuse them little electron thingies running through them wires? I mean, I thought that's what DIRECT current meant - ya gotta keep them wires as straight as you can! Also, don't set your batteries on the ground, or even concrete. That GROUNDS THEM OUT, and then they won't be any good. Kinda like snap peas towards the end of the harvest - all wrinkly and limp, and not much flavor... (Maybe we should start a Bad Advice wiki, too. :) I wonder if there is a way to have an on-line data base that we could simply add to, like Wikipedia? Easy enough: http://okopnik.com/LAwiki Your last post has been added under Mechanical Tips. Anyone who would like to add to the Wiki, please contact me for a password. :) Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 02:08:27PM -0400, Craig wrote: Wow Ben, That's a nice thing to do for the group. Thanks! There are lots of benefits to running your own server, and it's nice to be able to contribute. I hope the posts will explain the whys as well, such as, why tie a knot in the positive wire, and what does wax do for wood screws, or why does placing a battery on the ground or concrete ground them out? Good idea! (That last bit was a joke, though. It's a common misunderstanding among shade-tree mechanics, and I suspect it comes from confusing the two unrelated meanings of grounded...) Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
Love to - but sometimes due to other factors we'll end up at one - usually, though, we prefer to anchor out. On those rare occasions where we do pull into a marina, I'd say 99% of the time they've got 30A pedestals and we're good. Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: John Sexton Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:08 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components How about the option of not stopping at those marinas? If enough people avoid them, they might either modernize or have spare adapter available for no charge. ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
Wait 'till you get to my age, Norm! The Sr. Moments seem to be getting strung together closer and closer! Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Norm Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:28 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components Sorry Ben. I just discovered I attributed your text of wisdom to Steve... I get so much of that from the List I get confused sometimes Norm ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:26:56 -0400, you wrote: Bob got the plugs and made his own splitter five or six years ago because of the same problem with 50 amp service. More of a problem for us because we have a big boat and a lot of big slips are for the big power boats.. He says he does not remember where he got the plugs from. He told me just now how he did it, but I'm not going to risk writing it down because I didn't understand what he said. He is saying he got the wire from a consignment shop or something. My memory is that he got it in Titusville but I could be wrong. It's a big fat yellow thing. Then he made the splitter with plugs on each end. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:55:02PM -0400, SteveW wrote: Well, Ben, I stopped by the HD and there was absolutely nothing resembling anything that would match up with the prongs on the male end (the 50A pedestal side). Oh, well. Like I said, it's been a mort of years, so I don't recall exactly which plug/socket pair it was - 30A? 50A? 125V? 250V? All I remember is that the plug that HD sold me had the tab (the little bent piece on one of the prongs) on the opposite side of the prong from the one that the marine socket wanted. Otherwise, the pattern and the diameter were just right. I filed off the tab, and it fit like a champ. The guy working the electric department happened to own a boat so he, at least, knew what the hell I was talking about. Guess what his recommendation was - look it up in a Marinco or West Marine catalog... So I figured I completed the circle and am now back where I started from. [laugh] I'd say that we talked to the same guy, except that mine was in St. Augustine FL. Sadly, it's _very_ rare these days to find anyone behind a counter that knows what he's talking about... damn shame, since I got a lot of the best tips, mechanical and otherwise, from old guys in little hardware stores and machine shops. Driving screws into a bar of soap before putting them in wood, welding through a nut to put a head onto a broken bolt, waxing a saw blade, using monkey dung for holding any screw to a screwdriver and using Moly-B to drill stainless... thousands of these things that make up a very solid base of knowledge, and I'm truly grateful to all those blue-collar wizards. (Which reminds me - thanks again for the lifetime supply of Moly-B, Norm! I was wondering where I could find some...) Fortunately I don't get slips a lot when cruising (I prefer my own hook or a mooring ball) but from asking around I'm getting the impression that most marinas - at least in my cruising area (L.I. Sound, Block, Newport, P-town, etc.) - all have 50A 120/240V pedestals. I'll keep it on board for the just in cases but for the most part, over the years I've been able to get into slips with 30A service. Be sure to keep those pigtails and adapters locked up tight; they have a way of growing legs, I'm told. But enough of this. we're heading out Monday for the week and, at least at this point, aren't planning on any marinas Enjoy! I've got a ton of stuff to do on my boat before it's fully cruise-ready, and I'm chasing all that stuff down at full speed. Already did one major project today, another one - installing the Balmar regulator (mostly, finding space to install that bugger!) coming right up. Ben ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components
Well, Ben, I stopped by the HD and there was absolutely nothing resembling anything that would match up with the prongs on the male end (the 50A pedestal side). The guy working the electric department happened to own a boat so he, at least, knew what the hell I was talking about. Guess what his recommendation was - look it up in a Marinco or West Marine catalog... So I figured I completed the circle and am now back where I started from. Fortunately I don't get slips a lot when cruising (I prefer my own hook or a mooring ball) but from asking around I'm getting the impression that most marinas - at least in my cruising area (L.I. Sound, Block, Newport, P-town, etc.) - all have 50A 120/240V pedestals. I'll keep it on board for the just in cases but for the most part, over the years I've been able to get into slips with 30A service. But enough of this. we're heading out Monday for the week and, at least at this point, aren't planning on any marinas Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Ben Okopnik Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:14 PM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Expensive Marine Elect components On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:24:03AM -0400, SteveW wrote: As it turns out, Ben, I'm sneaking out of the office early this afternoon to go to the boat to some some maintenance (replacing the stock water pump) and there's a Home Depot 10 minutes from the yard. I'll stop in and cruise their electric department to see what they've got. Good recommendation! Good luck - I hope the plug that I remember is the one that fits your needs! Ben -- OKOPNIK CONSULTING Custom Computing Solutions For Your Business Expert-led Training | Dynamic, vital websites | Custom programming 443-250-7895 http://okopnik.com http://twitter.com/okopnik ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to liveaboard-j...@liveaboardonline.com To unsubscribe send an email to liveaboard-le...@liveaboardonline.com The archives are at http://www.liveaboardonline.com/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
