[ANNOUNCEMENT] Welcome Ralph Goers as the new Apache Logging Chair

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hello all,

I was the chair of the Apache Logging Services project for 3 1/2 years.
Thank you, it was a great time. But it is time to move on. I think it is
critical for ASF projects to let the Chair role rotate. 

At Logging Services, we agreed to discuss the role each year at the time
of the ASF members meeting. We did that. We will continue to do that (at
least that's my hope! :)).

The PMC discussed who could fill the role of the Logging Chair, and
while we have many great people among us, we unanimously voted for Ralph
Goers.

Ralph wrote the first versions of what became Log4j 2.0. He wrote large
parts of it until a fantastic community grew around the project. Without
him and his hard work, we would still be stuck on Log4j 1.x times when
things didn't look so bright. 
Ralph is not only an experienced developer but also a great teammate and
knows the Apache way in and out. 

Now I am very happy to say he accepted our vote, and the ASF Board
confirmed him in his role, effective immediately.

Welcome, Ralph! All the best for your new role, and may the force be
with you!

Cheers,
Christian

PS: if you are confused by the terms PMC, Chair or whatever, I'd like to
invite you to read the blog I posted when I became chair:
http://www.grobmeier.de/hey-i-became-a-vice-president-07072012.html

Or the official docs:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html

Re: ApacheCon CFP

[Christian Grobmeier]

Please don't wait any longer Matt.

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp
Submission must arrive before (!) 1.02. and they will not extend this 
deadline.


However you talk sounds good. Just from experience, people are sometimes 
setup
when they hear they should move their facade from slf4j to log4j2 again. 
Be prepared

to have good arguments

Any great if you could submit a proposal!

On 30 Jan 2014, at 15:42, Matt Sicker wrote:

I know I'm not a committer (yet), but I would be interested in doing a 
talk on logging. I'll see if I can get employer support as well. Is 
anyone else interested in putting together a CFP or two? I'd like to 
cover the neat new features in log4j, why we're more awesome than 
SLF4J, how to use logging effectively (e.g., using aspects to inject 
trace logging, using informative log messages, effective usage of the 
API, when to use different levels, using markers, complex logging 
configurations, etc), how to help make log4j compatible with other 
logging APIs not already implemented, creating additional components 
(I.e., appenders, filters, layouts, etc.), and many other ideas. 
Obviously that's too much to cover in one talk, but it's a good place 
to start examining what topics to cover and at what levels of 
expertise.


Matt Sicker

On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:29, Nick Williams 
 wrote:


Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's 
right now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an 
issue getting committers to come and lead talks, the Travel 
Assistance Committee will do everything it can to help you get there. 
Email them at t...@apache.org.


I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to 
suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from 
different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even 
have a summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate 
so that we're covering different topics and not stepping on each 
other.


I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for 
this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm 
looking for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel 
room and split the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can 
use just 2 hotel rooms and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in 
Sunday night and checking out of the hotel Friday morning--that's 
five nights. If someone can only share the hotel for 3 nights, we can 
split the price accordingly.


Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I 
asked Rich.


I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great 
opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA!


Nick


On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote:

- What exactly is a project summit?


Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of 
one kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the 
direction of the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project 
summit is whatever you want to make it, if two or more members of the 
PMC are together in a room to make it happen.


- What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on 
the normal days?


Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main 
difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on 
elements - more of a training class than an overview.


I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but 
it's $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer 
on any Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the 
entire conference, right?


Rich: That's correct.



The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials 
on April 10th: "$399 for ½ day tutorials ($299 for students) and 
$749 for full day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it 
doesn't say is:
1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for 
/committers/?


Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone.

2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone 
(it only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on 
April 11th as well)?


Rich: We'll get that fixed.

3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 
11th?


Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the 
project, and no extra fee is charged.


It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that 
means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which 
means 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur.


Rich: That is correct.

It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on 
Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf 
of Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks?


Nick


On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph G

Re: KEYS in dist (was Re: [VOTE] Release Log4Net 1.2.13 based on RC3)

[Christian Grobmeier]

On 21 Nov 2013, at 9:56, Stefan Bodewig wrote:

> On 2013-11-21, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:15, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>
>>> On 2013-11-21, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>>>> One no blocker which I just saw: the KEYS file is included in the
>>>> dist. Shouldn't it be left out?
>
>>> I think we've always done it that way in log4net and I know Ant has been
>>> doing so since 2000 - what's wrong with it?
>
>> when somebody downloads it and opens the zip, it is tempting to
>> validate the package against the included KEYS file. But if somebody
>> could manipulate the content of the package, he also could manipulate
>> the KEYS file.  For that reason the KEYS file should be on a different
>> location. This is the case, that's why I meant it's not critical. It
>> is on the other hand tempting to take the included one… nitpickery!
>> Thanks for pushing out the release!
>
> If this "somebody" downloaded the signature from the ASF and not from a
> mirror then the signature will not work if the zip has been modified, no
> matter which KEYS file it contains.  Unless you think the attacker has
> modifie the signature, but then the KEYS file in the dist area would be
> as vulnerable as that.

Good point. Not sure if this is actually a problem or not.
When I have time I will ask one of the infra gurus.

cheers
Christian

>
> Stefan


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Re: [VOTE] Release Log4Net 1.2.13 based on RC3

[Christian Grobmeier]

On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:15, Stefan Bodewig wrote:

> On 2013-11-21, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> +1
>
>> checked formalities, but didn't interpret the content b/c lack of
>> windows :-)
>
> thanks.
>
>> One no blocker which I just saw: the KEYS file is included in the
>> dist. Shouldn't it be left out?
>
> I think we've always done it that way in log4net and I know Ant has been
> doing so since 2000 - what's wrong with it?

when somebody downloads it and opens the zip, it is tempting to validate
the package against the included KEYS file. But if somebody could manipulate
the content of the package, he also could manipulate the KEYS file.
For that reason the KEYS file should be on a different location. This is the
case, that's why I meant it's not critical. It is on the other hand tempting
to take the included one… nitpickery! Thanks for pushing out the release!





> Stefan


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Re: [VOTE] Release Log4Net 1.2.13 based on RC3

[Christian Grobmeier]

+1

checked formalities, but didn't interpret the content b/c lack of 
windows :-)
One no blocker which I just saw: the KEYS file is included in the dist. 
Shouldn't it be left out?


Cheers

On 18 Nov 2013, at 6:21, Stefan Bodewig wrote:


Hi all,

three times is a charm. :-)

Changes over RC2 is a packaging change (the 3.5 assemblies now contain
the ILogExtensions) and two bug fixes.

log4net 1.2.13 RC3 is available for review here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/log4net
(revision 3550)

Details of changes since 1.2.12 are in the release notes:
http://logging.apache.org/log4net/log4net-1.2.13/release/release-notes.html

I have tested this with Mono and several .NET frameworks using NAnt.

The tag is here:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4net/tags/1.2.13RC3
(revision 1542676)

Site:
http://logging.apache.org/log4net/log4net-1.2.13/

(this is revision 887035 of
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/logging/content/log4net/log4net-1.2.13)

RAT Report:
http://logging.apache.org/log4net/log4net-1.2.13/rat-report.html

Votes, please.  This vote will close in 72 hours, 0530 GMT 21-Nov
2013

[ ] +1 Release these artifacts
[ ] +0 OK, but...
[ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
[ ] -1 I oppose this release because...

Thanks!

 Stefan



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Re: [VOTE] Release Log4Net 1.2.13 based on RC2

[Christian Grobmeier]

+1

Note: i have no Windows machine and was not able to verify building or other
technical checks. I have tested formal requirements though

On 10 Nov 2013, at 9:54, Stefan Bodewig wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> per discussion of the last few days we intend to cut a final(?) release
> from the 1.2.x branch fixing some problems with the ILog extensions and
> compilation for the compact framework.
>
> log4net 1.2.13 RC2 is available for review here:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/log4net
> (revision 3469)
>
> Details of changes since 1.2.12 are in the release notes:
> http://logging.apache.org/log4net/log4net-1.2.13/release/release-notes.html
>
> (note, I've already committed the site ot the live system but it is
> not reachable by any links - the 1.2.12 site is the one shown by default)
>
> I have tested this with Mono and several .NET frameworks using NAnt.
>
> The tag is here:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4net/tags/1.2.13RC2
> (revision 1540448)
>
> Site:
> http://logging.apache.org/log4net/log4net-1.2.13/
>
> RAT Report:
> http://logging.apache.org/log4net/log4net-1.2.13/rat-report.html
>
> Votes, please.  This vote will close in 72 hours, 0900 GMT 13-Nov
> 2013
>
> [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
> [ ] +0 OK, but...
> [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
>
> Thanks!
>
>  Stefan


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Re: [ANN] Apache log4net 1.2.12 Released

[Christian Grobmeier]

Thanks Stefan and Dominik!

I published this on our blog:
https://blogs.apache.org/logging/entry/apache_log4net_1_2_12

Cheers

Am 12.09.13 16:18, schrieb Stefan Bodewig:
> The Apache log4net team is pleased to announce the release of Apache
> log4net 1.2.12.  The release is available for download at
>
> http://logging.apache.org/log4net/download_log4net.cgi
>
> The Apache log4net library is a tool to help the programmer output log
> statements to a variety of output targets.  log4net is a port of the
> excellent Apache log4j framework to the Microsoft(R) .NET runtime.
>
> log4net 1.2.12 is mostly a bugfix release in which more than thirty JIRA
> issues have been resolved.  See
>
> http://logging.apache.org/log4net/release/release-notes.html
>
> for a full list of changes.
>
> The binary distributions no longer contain assemblies built for the
> Compact Framework 2.0 - you can build those yourself using the source
> distribution.
>
> Please verify signatures using the KEYS file available at the above
> location when downloading the release.
>
> For complete information on log4net, including instructions on how to
> submit bug reports, patches, or suggestions for improvement, see the
> Apache log4net website:
>
> http://logging.apache.org/log4net/
>
> Stefan Bodewig on behalf of the log4net community

Re: [VOTE] Release log4net 1.2.12 based on RC1

[Christian Grobmeier]

+1

I did the usual checks but due to a different OS I am not able to run
the tests (without lot of efforts :-)).

Please note, teh Apache Rat 0.10 looks a bit different than the one below.

Unapproved licenses:

  log4net-1.2.12/log4net.snk.readme
  log4net-1.2.12/tests/lib/prerequisites.txt

I do not consider this a blocker, but you may want to run the report
manually again or update the plugin.

Cheers!
Christian


Am 09.09.13 15:11, schrieb Stefan Bodewig:
> Hi all,
>
> after about two years it's more than about time to cut a new release.
>
> log4net 1.2.12 RC1 is available for review here:
>   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/log4net
>   (revision 2850)
>
> Details of changes since 1.2.11 are in the release notes:
>   http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/log4net/site/release/release-notes.html
>
> I have tested this with Mono and several .NET frameworks using NAnt.
>
> The tag is here:
>   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4net/tags/1.2.12RC1
>   (revision 1520872)
>
> Site:
>   http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/log4net/site/
>
> RAT Report:
>   http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/log4net/site/rat-report.html
>
> Votes, please.  This vote will close in 72 hours, 1300 GMT 11-Sep
> 2013
>
> [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
> [ ] +0 OK, but...
> [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stefan

[ANN] Dominik Psenner to join the Apache Logging PMC

[Christian Grobmeier]

Dear all,

it's my pleasure that Dominik Psenner, mostly active in log4net, has
been elected into the Apache Logging PMC. Congratulations!

All the best for your new role Dominik and thank you for your valuable
contributions so far.

Regards,
Christian

Re: Nightly builds

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hi,

(sorry for topposting).

Oh I see. Well yes, it might be difficult then and as we are low on
log4net human power, we better use our efforts on other areas.

I was just looking if drone.io does support .net builds, but it
doesn't seem like that. Maybe there is another provider who can create
nightlies from public directories.

Cheers + thanks for the update!
Christian

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> Hey Christian,
>
> [moving this to log4net-dev only]
>
> According to Stefan we cannot use Gump for nightly builds but should rather 
> set up jenkins. Therefore I read through [1] and it
> seems that there's at least one major issue with Jenkins: the jenkins slaves 
> do not include an installation of nant. This requires
> us to move to ant (unfeasible) or discuss with the jenkins admins to set up 
> nant.
>
> I am not an expert on neither jenkins nore nant and there are probably a lot 
> more culprits ahead. Therefore I believe that nightlies
> come with quite a lot of work and maybe that work is not worth the effort if 
> there's not much interest in the community anyway.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins?action=show&redirect=Hudson
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:08 PM
>>To: Log4NET Dev
>>Cc: Log4NET User
>>Subject: Re: Nightly builds
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
>>we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
>>because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.
>>
>>Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
>>opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.
>>
>>My 2 cents -
>>
>>Cheers
>>Christian
>>
>>On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. 
>>> But unfortunately that
>>did not help and only a few people
>>> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are 
>>> interested in nightly
>>builds, there does not seem to be
>>> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> D.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>



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Re: Nightly builds

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hi,

is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.

Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.

My 2 cents -

Cheers
Christian

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But 
> unfortunately that did not help and only a few people
> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are 
> interested in nightly builds, there does not seem to be
> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>



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Re: Nightly builds

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hi,

is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.

Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.

My 2 cents -

Cheers
Christian

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But 
> unfortunately that did not help and only a few people
> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are 
> interested in nightly builds, there does not seem to be
> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>



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Re: Newbie - can't get anything to show in the log

[Christian Grobmeier]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, skifreak  wrote:
> I am a developer :)
>
>

:-)

Dominik meant, this list is for developing log4net itself. The users
list is for developing with log4net.
So unless you want to contribute patches to log4net, we kindly ask you
to put your message to the log4net-users list.
As here: log4net-u...@logging.apache.org

Cheers
Christian

>
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Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry

[Christian Grobmeier]

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> That inconsistent line ending seems to be a problem with the
> eol-style:native on my tortoisesvn client versioned as:
>
> TortoiseSVN 1.7.10
> Subversion 1.7.7
>
> That svn client kept modifying half of all EOL in the files to windows
> format and the other half to unix format while preparing to send the file
> contents. I had to manually go through all files and convert all EOL to unix
> style until the commit went through. Pretty annoying, but doable.

Ouch.

After a long time using OSX only, I often wonder how developers can
still work with Windows.
That said, the recent OSX developments make me sad too. Anyway, so far
I am glad that my *nix based system is not so weird when it comes to
line endings.

BTW, there are perl oneliners out there which would have helped you

> The website is now fresh new and up to date. Thanks for your help Christian!
> If we get the chance I would definitely drink a couple of beers together.
>
> :-)
>

Definitely! Maybe next ApacheCon EU?

Cheers
Christian


> Cheers,
> Dominik
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:02 PM
>>To: Log4NET Dev
>>Subject: Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry
>>
>>> I got that one working too now. It was because I mixed mvn3 files with
>>the
>>> ones I generated with mvn2. But now the commit fails with:
>>>
>>> Error: Commit failed (details follow):
>>> Error: Changing file
>>> Error:  '\log4net-site-content\log4net\log4net-1.2.11\project-
>>reports.html'
>>>
>>> Error:  is forbidden by the server
>>> Error: Access to
>>> Error:
>>> '/repos/infra/!svn/txr/839889-
>>i0ux/websites/production/loggingtest/content/l
>>> og4net/log4net-1.2.11/project-reports.html'
>>> Error:  forbidden
>>>
>>> I have the impression that this is something someone else has to fix. :-)
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>For some reason i think the link in the wiki is wrong... I found this one:
>>https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/logging/content/
>>
>>it does not containt loggingtest, just logging.
>>
>>Could you try it with that again? At least my browser shows me correct
>>content
>>
>>Cheers
>>Christian
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> D.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry

[Christian Grobmeier]

> I got that one working too now. It was because I mixed mvn3 files with the
> ones I generated with mvn2. But now the commit fails with:
>
> Error: Commit failed (details follow):
> Error: Changing file
> Error:  '\log4net-site-content\log4net\log4net-1.2.11\project-reports.html'
>
> Error:  is forbidden by the server
> Error: Access to
> Error:
> '/repos/infra/!svn/txr/839889-i0ux/websites/production/loggingtest/content/l
> og4net/log4net-1.2.11/project-reports.html'
> Error:  forbidden
>
> I have the impression that this is something someone else has to fix. :-)

:-)

For some reason i think the link in the wiki is wrong... I found this one:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/logging/content/

it does not containt loggingtest, just logging.

Could you try it with that again? At least my browser shows me correct content

Cheers
Christian


> Cheers,
> D.
>



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Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry

[Christian Grobmeier]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> *hm* .. using maven 2.2.1 it seems to work flawlessly. At least it does not
> produce warnings. ;-) I checked the site and mostly only the dates are
> changed now. *yay!*

mvn 2 + 3 do need different things in the reporting section. Maybe we
(you? ;-)) should look into migrating to m3 for log4net

> The last problem I have now are the line endings in the generated site. I am
> on windows and I suppose the svn expects \n instead of \r\n line endings?

I wrote a blog on that because it bugged me often too:
http://www.grobmeier.de/svn-properties-client-config-05072009.html
Common usus is native style i think

> Will the site automatically be updated once I commit the updated site?

If you commit it to the svn site branch, then yes. It should be there
pretty quickly as it is picked up by svnpubsub

Cheers
Christian

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsen...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:07 AM
>>To: 'Log4NET Dev'
>>Subject: RE: FW: Add new FAQ entry
>>
>>>Can you check your maven version? There was a change between 2 and 3.
>>>Maybe its related to that.
>>>
>>>mvn --version
>>
>>Apache Maven 3.0.3
>>
>>I found out that the -snippet triggers mvn to generate
>>the projec documentation. But nonetheless mvn behaves really odd.
>>
>>When I build it first I get the RAT report. When I build it again I get the
>>Changes and JIRA reports but the RAT report is missing. Building it once
>>more brings back the RAT report but JIRA and Changes are missing again.
>>*huh?!*
>>
>>I am really afraid I could break something not obvious and this is what ist
>>he warning produced by maven:
>>
>>[INFO] Downloading from JIRA at:
>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?view=rss&pid=1069
>>0
>>&statusIds=5&statusIds=6&resolutionIds=1&sorter/field=created&sorter/order=
>>D
>>ESC&sorter/field=priority&sorter/order=DESC&tempMax=100&reset=true&decorato
>>r
>>=none
>>[WARNING]
>>org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoExecutionException: Failed to parse JIRA XML.
>>at org.apache.maven.plugin.jira.JiraXML.parse(JiraXML.java:132)
>>at org.apache.maven.plugin.jira.JiraXML.parseXML(JiraXML.java:108)
>>...
>>Caused by: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: The entity name must immediately
>>follow the '&' in the entity reference.
>
>



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Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry

[Christian Grobmeier]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> Spare time is a rare resource. :-)

I know what you mean :-)


> I noticed a strange thing with the index.html site: parts of the index are
> now missing. This affects these links below "Project Documentation":
...
> I'm sure it has something to do with:
>
> 
>
> in 'log4net\src\site\site.xml'. But where does that content come from and
> how can I fix that?

Can you check your maven version? There was a change between 2 and 3.
Maybe its related to that.

mvn --version

And you can add your name to the developers section in the pom.xml if
you like :-)

Cheers
Christian

>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:49 AM
>>To: Log4NET Dev
>>Subject: Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry
>>
>>Cool, and thanks for updating the site!
>>Good to see you are still there :-)
>>
>>On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner 
>>wrote:
>>> Good morning Christian,
>>>
>>> thanks for the fast feedback. That wiki was the one I've been searching
>>for.
>>> :-) I'll post back if I run into more trouble. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> D.
>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com]
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:26 AM
>>>>To: Logging General
>>>>Cc: Log4NET Dev
>>>>Subject: Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I noticed, but didn't find the time to respond sorry :-)
>>>>Did you see this?
>>>>http://wiki.apache.org/logging/ManagingTheWebSite
>>>>
>>>>Basically you must now generate the site via mvn site and then
>>>>copy/paste the target/site into the website svn directory
>>>>
>>>>hth
>>>>Cheers
>>>>Christian
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dominik Psenner 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I posted this message on log4net-dev but maybe noone noticed.
>>>>:-)
>>>>> Is there someone around that knows how the publishing of the log4net
>>>>website
>>>>> works?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> D.
>>>>>
>>>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>>>From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsen...@gmail.com]
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:19 PM
>>>>>>To: 'Log4NET Dev'
>>>>>>Subject: Add new FAQ entry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I gotta question about adding a new FAQ entry. I don't know how the
>>build
>>>>>>system works behind the scenes but I believe it should be enough to
>>>>update:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>src\site\xdoc\release\faq.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and commit. The website should then update itself, doesn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>D.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry

[Christian Grobmeier]

Cool, and thanks for updating the site!
Good to see you are still there :-)

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> Good morning Christian,
>
> thanks for the fast feedback. That wiki was the one I've been searching for.
> :-) I'll post back if I run into more trouble. Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:26 AM
>>To: Logging General
>>Cc: Log4NET Dev
>>Subject: Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I noticed, but didn't find the time to respond sorry :-)
>>Did you see this?
>>http://wiki.apache.org/logging/ManagingTheWebSite
>>
>>Basically you must now generate the site via mvn site and then
>>copy/paste the target/site into the website svn directory
>>
>>hth
>>Cheers
>>Christian
>>
>>On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dominik Psenner 
>>wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yesterday I posted this message on log4net-dev but maybe noone noticed.
>>:-)
>>> Is there someone around that knows how the publishing of the log4net
>>website
>>> works?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> D.
>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsen...@gmail.com]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:19 PM
>>>>To: 'Log4NET Dev'
>>>>Subject: Add new FAQ entry
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I gotta question about adding a new FAQ entry. I don't know how the build
>>>>system works behind the scenes but I believe it should be enough to
>>update:
>>>>
>>>>src\site\xdoc\release\faq.xml
>>>>
>>>>and commit. The website should then update itself, doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>D.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: FW: Add new FAQ entry

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hi,

I noticed, but didn't find the time to respond sorry :-)
Did you see this?
http://wiki.apache.org/logging/ManagingTheWebSite

Basically you must now generate the site via mvn site and then
copy/paste the target/site into the website svn directory

hth
Cheers
Christian

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yesterday I posted this message on log4net-dev but maybe noone noticed. :-)
> Is there someone around that knows how the publishing of the log4net website
> works?
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsen...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:19 PM
>>To: 'Log4NET Dev'
>>Subject: Add new FAQ entry
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I gotta question about adding a new FAQ entry. I don't know how the build
>>system works behind the scenes but I believe it should be enough to update:
>>
>>src\site\xdoc\release\faq.xml
>>
>>and commit. The website should then update itself, doesn't it?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>D.
>
>



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Re: Async logging

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hopefully one of the log4net guys can apply that issue in near future :-)
If you have more such valuable contributions, they are much mor ethan
welcome - we are just a little short of manpower here

Cheers

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, George Chung  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for taking a look at my “contribution”. J
>
>
>
> Just fyi, I am not a log4net developer…just a user who hacked up an
> AsyncSqlAppender. I am using it in a production environment with good
> results…feel free to use and comment.
>
>
>
> From what I can gather from the discussions on this email list, the
> development team is exploring a more generic Async framework to support
> Async logging.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> George
>
>
>
> From: Roman Konovalov [mailto:ro...@greenrain.biz]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:11 PM
> To: 'Log4NET Dev'
> Subject: RE: Async logging
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Is Async Logging already part of official release? If not, can you please
> advise when it might be? Many thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roman
>
>
>
> From: George Chung [mailto:geo...@glympse.com]
> Sent: den 15 juni 2012 01:18
> To: Log4NET Dev
> Subject: Re: Async logging
>
>
>
> Based on the log4net-1.2.11 source tree...
>
>
>
> Just stick AsyncSqlAppender.cs into the Appender folder. See attached
> log4net.config file for example of how to use it. Please note, that I set
> the bufferSize = 1. No need to buffer if you're logging asynchronously. And
> I think I make an assumption that the LoggingEvents has a size of 1.
>
>
>
> Minor changes to existing files
>
> I modified AppenderSkeleton to make the append lock virtual.
> AsyncSqlAppender does not need to synchronize multiple writers Sql Server
> does a fine job of that. :)
>
>
>
> I fixed AdoNetAppender to swizzle "(null)" and "NOT AVAILABLE" to a real
> NULL in the db.
>
>
>
> I fixed AspNetRequestPatternConverter to handle situations where there is no
> request object.
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:36 PM, George Chung  wrote:
>
> Actually, I implemented an AsyncSqlAppender.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:34 PM, George Chung  wrote:
>
> Yes, and when you submit async operations, those async requests are queued
> by the runtime and the completion routines are executed by threads from this
> thread pool. No need to manage threads at all. I did a pretty trivial hack
> to the AdoNetAppender to perform Async Sql inserts and it's been working
> flawlessly in our production environment.
>
>
>
> I'll attach the modified files shortly.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Stefan Bodewig  wrote:
>
> On 2012-06-08, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Dominik Psenner 
>> wrote:
>
>>> * the ThreadPool should be used in favour over a designated worker Thread
>
>
>> no idea becuase I have no clue on .NET, but it sounds like fun :-)
>
> .Net has a built-in thread pool it uses for all kinds of internal stuff,
> including async executions of user events or serving ASP.NET requests -
> and it provides access to it for user code.  Rather than creating new
> ad-hoc Threads you re-use one of the pool.
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: Welcome Dominik Psenner as new Committer

[Christian Grobmeier]

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier  wrote:
> Welcome Dominik,
>
> its good to have you on board. I wish you all the best for your work
> here and hope you'll be around for a long time.
>
> Usually we write a blog post on http://blogs.apache.org/logging/ when
> somebody joins.

Which I have done now. :-)

Cheers
Christian


> The last thing I have heard was there is a security issue with the
> bloggins system and blogging is disabled. I will ask if this has
> changed meanwhile and the write a post if it is possible. I mention
> this here because I don't want to give you a bad feeling in case you
> know our blog: you are as much welcome as every other committer.
>
> I also want to suggest you subscribe to gene...@logging.apache.org, we
> discuss "project wide" questions there.
>
> Cheers + Have fun,
> Christian
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
>>>Dear log4net community,
>>>
>>>it is my pleasure to inform you, Dominik has been elected as a new
>>>committer to the project.  He's been active around here for quite some
>>>time and will now be able to work on the code base directly.  I'm sure
>>>the project is going to benefit a lot from him.
>>>
>>>Welcome Dominik
>>
>> Hi community,
>>
>> thanks Stefan for the warm welcome! I'm glad to have been chosen and am sure
>> that our joint efforts will bear great benefits to the project.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dominik
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Welcome Dominik Psenner as new Committer

[Christian Grobmeier]

Welcome Dominik,

its good to have you on board. I wish you all the best for your work
here and hope you'll be around for a long time.

Usually we write a blog post on http://blogs.apache.org/logging/ when
somebody joins.
The last thing I have heard was there is a security issue with the
bloggins system and blogging is disabled. I will ask if this has
changed meanwhile and the write a post if it is possible. I mention
this here because I don't want to give you a bad feeling in case you
know our blog: you are as much welcome as every other committer.

I also want to suggest you subscribe to gene...@logging.apache.org, we
discuss "project wide" questions there.

Cheers + Have fun,
Christian

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
>>Dear log4net community,
>>
>>it is my pleasure to inform you, Dominik has been elected as a new
>>committer to the project.  He's been active around here for quite some
>>time and will now be able to work on the code base directly.  I'm sure
>>the project is going to benefit a lot from him.
>>
>>Welcome Dominik
>
> Hi community,
>
> thanks Stefan for the warm welcome! I'm glad to have been chosen and am sure
> that our joint efforts will bear great benefits to the project.
>
> Cheers,
> Dominik
>



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Re: Async logging

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hi,

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> · the queue size should be configurable

+1

>
> · the ThreadPool should be used in favour over a designated worker
> Thread

no idea becuase I have no clue on .NET, but it sounds like fun :-)


> · if the queue is full, it should fallback to synchronous logging,
> shouldn’t it?

Not sure on this: this would probably impact the application in terms
of performance right?
Probably this should be configurable to:

QUEUE_OVERFLOW_STRATEGY=DISMISS -> throws away the log events
QUEUE_OVERFLOW_STRATEGY=SYNC -> goes back to synchronized logging

In either case, a warning message should be generated.

Another interesting feature would  to set a threshhold for the queue.
Lets assume it is 100, and 100 messages are in the queue while 150 are
allowed, one could get a warning log that the threshhold of 100 is
passed.

> · queued log events should be processed when the appender gets
> disposed

+1


Cheers
Christian



>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dominik



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Re: New download page

[Christian Grobmeier]

+1 looks good

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Stefan Bodewig  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> based on the download pages of Ant and Commons I've created a new
> download page for log4net currently visible at
> 
>
> This page is more user friendly as it provides direct links to the
> mirrored files and thus saves one more pageload and click.
>
> Unless anybody objects I plan to put the newly generated site live
> during the next few days.
>
> Stefan



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Comment on twitter

[Christian Grobmeier]

Thought you would find this interesting
cheers!

>From @ObjT

@grobmeier Well, log4net and log4j pack much too much functionality.
Might be nice for Microsoft and Oracle. Logging should be simple IMHO.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache log4net 1.2.11 based on RC1

[Christian Grobmeier]

> Votes, please.  This vote will close in 72 hours, 1900 GMT 9-Oct 2011
>
> [X] +1 Release these artifacts
> [ ] +0 OK, but...
> [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...

I checked everything I said, but did not manage to get the .NET beast
running fully. I will try to set up a unit testing environment for the
next release (no promises :-)). Anyway, I trust you on coding level,
so please go ahead and release this package.

Cheers!
Christian

>
> Thanks!
>
>        Stefan
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Release testing (was: Fwd: [VOTE] Release Apache log4net 1.2.11 based on RC1)

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hi folks,

I have checked the site, the content of the files (oldkey, newkey, source),
the tag and everything looks good to me.

I have not found sha1 files. They seem to be standard on most
projects, so my guess is you don't want them. Right?

I have not tested if test are running, because i am a .NET idiot. I
have installed Mono (I am on a mac) and downloaded NAnt and NUnit. But
now I am lost. As three people have already checked the content of the
release and the frame (checksums etc) are looking good, I am fine with
giving my plus 1. But if there are chances that I can easily check the
stuff, please let me know how. I will try it then.

Here is my Mono version:

cg-mbpro:release-checking cy$ mono --version
Mono JIT compiler version 2.10.5 (tarball Mon Aug 22 20:38:08 EDT 2011)
Copyright (C) 2002-2011 Novell, Inc, Xamarin, Inc and Contributors.
www.mono-project.com
TLS:   normal
SIGSEGV:   normal
Notification:  kqueue
Architecture:  x86
Disabled:  none
Misc:  debugger softdebug
LLVM:  yes(2.9svn-mono)
GC:Included Boehm (with typed GC)


Cheers,
Christian


-- Forwarded message --
From: Stefan Bodewig 
Date: Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:21 PM
Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache log4net 1.2.11 based on RC1
To: log4net-dev@logging.apache.org
Cc: gene...@logging.apache.org


It's been a long time since the last log4net release and we've
accumulated quite a few changes.  It is about time to cut a new release.

[scp dumped core on me repeatedly while I tried to copy the files to
    people.apache.org that's why I've temporarily put the ZIPs on my
    server.]

log4net 1.2.11 RC1 is available for review here:
 http://stefan.samaflost.de/log4net/

Details of changes since 1.2.10 are in the release notes:
 http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/log4net/site/release/release-notes.html

I have tested this with Mono and several .NET frameworks using NAnt.

The tag is here:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4net/tags/1.2.11RC1
 (revision 1179495)

Site:
 http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/log4net/site/

RAT Report:
 http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/log4net/site/rat-report.html

Votes, please.  This vote will close in 72 hours, 1900 GMT 9-Oct 2011

[ ] +1 Release these artifacts
[ ] +0 OK, but...
[ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
[ ] -1 I oppose this release because...

Thanks!

       Stefan



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Re: WebSite for 1.2.11 - Please Review

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hello Stefan,

> The site is at  in
> particular please review the release notes
> 
> the new download page
>  (links
> certainly don't work) and the two new FAQ entries
> 
> and
> .

I looked at all pages, nothing found. I have checked brandmark
requirements, all well.
Just a minor thing, not important: if you go to this link:
http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/log4net/site/issue-tracking.html
Issue tracking is 2 times in the navigation. Not a problem, but one
time is better.

On the content of the FAQ/Release notes I have no idea :-)

Cheers,
Christian

Re: mvn based log4net website

[Christian Grobmeier]

Hi

looked at it - great job Stefan.

There is only thing I found so quick - look at the logo top left you have used.
You could replace it with the logo here:
http://logging.apache.org/log4php/
It has a (tm) symbol in it.

Cheers

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Stefan Bodewig  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> based in major parts on work done by Curt earlier and inspired by
> log4php I've created a mvn site-plugin based version of the log4net
> site.  The current result can be seen here
>  and it should be very
> similar to the existing site.
>
> The major difference is that I've removed the list of contributors from
> the landing page, the same list (with my name added) is available from
> the "Project Team" page.
>
> Other than that the site should comply with all branding requirements -
> this means it has a few "Apache"s and "TM"s sprinkled all over the site
> and a new footer on every page.  I've also fixed a few other JIRA issues
> about broken links on the way.
>
> I have not modified the download page as there is a reason it doesn't
> use mirrors right now.  The only log4net releases that have ever been
> made at the ASF are Incubator releases and the release artifacts have
> never been moved under the logging dist area.  By now they have also
> been removed from the incubator area.  This means they are not available
> from www.apache.org at all (which also mean not from any mirror at all)
> and all download links point to archives.apache.org.  This will be fixed
> once we have our next release.
>
> Unless anybody yells I plan to replace the current log4net site with the
> directory linked above in a few days.
>
> Stefan
>



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