Re: Bah!

2001-05-12 Thread Chris Ball

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 05:04:23PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 I've been made redundant.  Anyone want an Evil Programmer?

Sorry to hear that, David. Same story over here.. I'm on notice at the moment.
I'm looking for another job working with Perl during the Summer (mid-June to
mid-September, during Uni break) in Manchester, London, Brighton or anywhere
thereabouts.

For anyone interested, my CV's at http://printf.net/cv/cv.pdf .
(or cv.{html,txt} if you'd rather)

Thanks,

~~C.

-- 
Chris Ball.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://printf.net/
You said Java, that's as bad as Belgium. --trj





Re: Monitors

2001-05-12 Thread Chris Ball

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 How many things do you have on top of your monitor?
 
 -Dom

Oh, God. Here's one I can win, although it's spread over two monitors. I've
got a 21 SGI monitor with one Penguin Computing penguin and two mini-IBM
penguins on, and a 19 Samsung with a Dust Puppy and a Ximian Monkey on. :)

~~C.

-- 
Chris Ball.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://printf.net/
finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I dream in perl a lot. Last night I dreamt in make, though. That just sucked.





Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Chris Devers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 At 10:06 PM 2001.05.09 +0100, Grep wrote:
 well i had 15 minutes to spare so i decided to do this ...
 
 Lessee...
 
 Let's make a film, 

London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea! Can their be vampyres?
They could represent the lifesucking programmers who religiously
follow Booch methodology and use Java.

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: 101 uses for an inflatable Tux

2001-05-12 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 06:42:40PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
 Suggestions also welcome for all of these:
 
 http://pkl.net/~martin/lonix-2001-05-10/

Does that come with a Back Orifice?

Paul



BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-12 Thread Paul Makepeace

``BOFHs will legally need licence to work''

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/18866.html

Absurd, laughable and bizarre. What *is* wrong with the UK?

Paul



Long Dark Teatime of the Soul

2001-05-12 Thread Dave Hodgkinson


http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm




Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 09:20:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea!

As I was saying to someone only yesterday, movies made by a bunch of
crazy geeks would be an absolute riot. Go for it.


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Martin Ling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 09:20:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  
  London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea!
 
 As I was saying to someone only yesterday, movies made by a bunch of
 crazy geeks would be an absolute riot. Go for it.
 

Somehow I see b-movie horror mixed with independence day style
computer geek saves the world. Aha - some dark evil force creates
a website (BIG FONTS) that attracts young people from the world
and has lots of flashy stuff on it (ok it would be flash, but
this is a movie, so its just going to be BIG FONTS AND SWIRLING
STUFF) that is actual fact brainwashing the teenagers to worship
the website - the dark force is demonic and probably vampire
like, however unlike the rest of his vampire minion followers
he can't be killed by sunlight, stakes etc. No he has to be
killed in a certain way, of course there are two plot threads
first of all hacking into his website to change the brainwashing
and a crew of people going in to kill the arch-badie.

Wonderful!

Of course we could make a cyberpunk movie instead, now let 
me thing about it  

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Of course we could make a cyberpunk movie instead, now let
me thing about it 


Someone please employ Mr Mccarroll. My mail box can't cope with him
having this much spare time. ;)

Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
   ---  Anon





Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Leon Brocard

Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:

 Somehow I see b-movie horror mixed with independence day style
 computer geek saves the world.

Buffy meets Real Genius meets Hackers meets Spaced meets Seven Samurai
meets Pi meets Office Space meets Blade Runner meets Austin Powers?

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/

... Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Simon Cozens

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 Aha - some dark evil force creates a website (BIG FONTS) that attracts young
 people from the world and has lots of flashy stuff on it (ok it would be
 flash, but this is a movie, so its just going to be BIG FONTS AND SWIRLING
 STUFF) that is actual fact brainwashing the teenagers to worship the website 

Snow Crash, essentially.

-- 
diff: usage diff [whatever] etc.
- plan9 has a bad day



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Alex Page

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 09:20:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea! Can their be vampyres?
 They could represent the lifesucking programmers who religiously
 follow Booch methodology and use Java.

How about a movie set in a post-holocaustic London where the
surviving Perl Mongers are desperately trying to survive against
the hordes of radiation-addled Java Zombies, and locate the few
remaining stashes of beer and bandwidth?

Or some kind of bizzaro martial arts fest pitching the Heretics
against the True London.pm'ers (tm)...

Alex
-- 
I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you
 can have everything that you want. - Jareth, Labyrinth



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Snow Crash, essentially.

yeah but with Vampires, and the sword fighting would be carried
out in the real world by a young blonde female - see its totally
original!


-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Alex Page ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 09:20:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea! Can their be vampyres?
  They could represent the lifesucking programmers who religiously
  follow Booch methodology and use Java.
 
 How about a movie set in a post-holocaustic London where the
 surviving Perl Mongers are desperately trying to survive against
 the hordes of radiation-addled Java Zombies, and locate the few
 remaining stashes of beer and bandwidth?

this would reduce the travelling expenses, my movie was going
to be set in hawaii and i would also of needed a red ferrari
for my part in the movie - i was going to supply the shirts
my self - actually now that i think about it i'm still on
for the hawaii idea ;-)

 
 Or some kind of bizzaro martial arts fest pitching the Heretics
 against the True London.pm'ers (tm)...
 

well lets look at the facts,

[1] its a martial arts film
[2] the heretics are out number by the repressive regime and
unfairly branded as heretics

therefore we win! horrah!

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Chris Devers

On Sat, 12 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 * Chris Devers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  At 10:06 PM 2001.05.09 +0100, Grep wrote:
  well i had 15 minutes to spare so i decided to do this ...
  
  Lessee...
  
  Let's make a film, 
 
 London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea! Can their be vampyres?

Hookay guys, I was just trying to get you to drink. I didn't think that
were *actually going to want to make a movie*... 

Drinking rule addendum: if anyone posts a screenplay, everyone has to down
a case of beer. Each. 

hic! :)

--
Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Long Dark Teatime of the Soul

2001-05-12 Thread Neil Ford

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:56:48AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm
 
Unfortunately I got the phone call at 7:10 this morning :-(

Definitely a strange day.

Neil.
-- 
Neil C. Ford
Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 Somehow I see b-movie horror mixed with independence day style
 computer geek saves the world.

ObRant (sigh, becoming a habit again):

'Oh, hey! Like, I saw that Antitrust movie! I remember you're one of
those Linux guys, so you must totally love this film because it's all
about the geeks and er, stuff. So I think maybe I get this whole open
source thing a bit better now because I heard the word in a movie! But
like, you guys need to get over it.  It's not like in the movie, they're
not killing programmers or anything.  Jeez, you guys are crazy, you
really thought that? You need to get out more. Anyway, can you help me
fix my computer sometime? I've got install this new version of Office so
I can read my mail, but I think I have to subscribe now or something and
the machine keeps crashing I think it got hacked or summat or I got a
virus... anyway, see ya'


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread David Cantrell

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:49:05AM -0400, Alex Page wrote:

 How about a movie set in a post-holocaustic London where the
 surviving Perl Mongers are desperately trying to survive against
 the hordes of radiation-addled Java Zombies, and locate the few
 remaining stashes of beer and bandwidth?

Evil Dead - the Language of Darkness.

 Or some kind of bizzaro martial arts fest pitching the Heretics
 against the True London.pm'ers (tm)...

And has someone stolen our Illustrious Leader's Secret Manual?

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

  Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced operating system
   in the world which we decided to release incomplete just for a laugh



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:38:08PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  Aha - some dark evil force creates a website (BIG FONTS) that attracts young
  people from the world and has lots of flashy stuff on it (ok it would be
  flash, but this is a movie, so its just going to be BIG FONTS AND SWIRLING
  STUFF) that is actual fact brainwashing the teenagers to worship the website 
 
 Snow Crash, essentially.

I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film. The
first three pages, up to the line about pizza, cut slightly and narrated
in a deadpan style against some suitably badass footage would make an
absolutely superb start to a movie.


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:01:26PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 
 Evil Dead - the Language of Darkness.
 
  Or some kind of bizzaro martial arts fest pitching the Heretics
  against the True London.pm'ers (tm)...
 
 And has someone stolen our Illustrious Leader's Secret Manual?

Y'know, if we just want to do cr0bar-style bastardisations [0], that's
quite another (easier) matter entirely...


Martin

[0] http://www.detonate.net/ - Matrix was the original and best, but the
others have some good bits.



Re: Monitors

2001-05-12 Thread Natalie Ford

At 16:22 11/05/01, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
How many things do you have on top of your monitor?

8:

1.  beanie baby camel (Niles)
2.  beanie buddy (bigger) camel (Humphrey)
3.  SUSE plush gecko (Geeko)
4.  plush dust puppy (another is hanging from my shelf)
5.  beanie baby lizard (Scaly)
6.  medium plush tux
7.  small plush corel linux tux
8.  plush Norbert the dragon from Harry Potter

and, underneath:

9.  ceramic dragon (yes, i collect dragons, but the rest are in the living 
room)
10. lego polar bear (from arctic sets)
11. legoland plush dragon rattle


-
Natalie Ford
Iterative Software Ltd. http://www.iterative-software.com
Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Ltd.  http://www.yacsc.com 




Re: O Brother (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Piers Cawley writes:
  I'm trying to work out if I was bowled over by
  'Go to sleep pretty baby' because of the song or the visuals...
 
 Ob Porn: You can see a nipple and curve of a breast through a wet
 shirt if you look in the right place.

Actually, I bought the soundtrack and listened to that track without
the visuals. It's still stunning. And vaguely threatening

Go to sleep pretty baby.
Go to sleep pretty baby.
Come and lay your bones on the alabaster stones
and be nobody else's baby.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Greg McCarroll writes:
  And while we are on the old films chestnut, my current recommendation
  is 'O Brother, where art thou?', excellent film.
 
 I loved it.  I've seen it twice.  Of course, I'm a bluegrass music
 nut.

Bluegrass is okay, but I prefer the gentler, old timey stuff. I'd
rather hear a banjo played clawhammer style than plucked any day of
the week. Sara Gray is about the best player in this style I've heard
over here...

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Traditional music (was Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Greg McCarroll writes:
  I think `man of sorrow' will be a good ambassador for bluegrass
 
 Yup, it is.  I'd just like to add that I saw it performed by the real
 band (i.e., not George Clooney lipsynching) one week ago.  It was
 bloody brilliant.  I think I even have a photo on the digital camera
 of them around the microphone doing the harmonies.  No fake beards,
 though:-)
 
 There are rumours of a Soggy Bottom Boys tour in 2002.  There was a
 big concert of the music from the movie last year, and it was recorded
 by some famous documentarian.  I'm looking forward to the release of
 that.

DA Pennebaker.

 On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone
 here into trad. Irish instrumental music?

I prefer trad English. And I really prefer trad. English vocal,
preferably without instruments...

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

David H. Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:16AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
  
  On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone
  here into trad. Irish instrumental music?
 
 [raises hand]
 
 Actually, Celtic in general, more than *just* irish...

So you don't like English traditional music then. Shame.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Dim Sum?

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Leo Lapworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:30:13PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
  Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:

Anyone up for Dim Sim at 1 O'clock?
   
   Yes. New World, Gerrard Street. I may be very on time.
  
  ARGH! Sorry, I got PHB-ed.
 
 Well, lucky I turned up then wasn't it.. or it'd have been
 poor Leon on his own in a strange town.
 
 You also missed the best Dim Sim ever, they liked us
 so much we got free saki and a 50% of the meal.

This is the New World. We know what it's like.

 And the women they provided (hmm, think I'm going too far ?)

Yup.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Irish music (was RE: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 From: Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 3:55 PM
 
  On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone
  here into trad. Irish instrumental music?
 
 Well, I prefer stuff with lyrics, but enjoy almost any kind of Irish (and
 English) folk music.
 
 What are you doing between TPC and Y::E? You sound like the kind of person
 who would really enjoy the Cambridge Folk Festival
 http://www.cam-folkfest.co.uk/.

Do any possible folk festival you can, but avoid cambridge. Too rock
and roll nowadays.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Irish music (was RE: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dave Cross:
  You sound like the kind of person
  who would really enjoy the Cambridge Folk Festival
 
 Or, indeed, the Holmfirth Folk Festival: on this weekend for all your real
 ale, finger-in-ear, set-in-summer-wine-country needs
 http://www.riceholm.demon.co.uk/

We decided not to go. Worked on the website instead. What fun. Not.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 05:37:24PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
 David H. Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:16AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
   
   On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone
   here into trad. Irish instrumental music?
  
  [raises hand]
  
  Actually, Celtic in general, more than *just* irish...
 
 So you don't like English traditional music then. Shame.

Says who?  I just expanded from irish... It's not like Celtic music is
all I listen to...  There's instrumental surf too!  :-)

dha
-- 
David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
Dealing with problems is only for people too weak to run away from
them.   - Phillip, www.goats.com/comix/0002/goats000211.gif



Re: mod perl

2001-05-12 Thread Hans Juergen von Lengerke

Robin Szemeti:

 chances are it isnt a leak at all, just cached info filling up the planet
 .. more investigation needed.

If it turns out that the caching is good but unpredictable in terms of
how much caching will occur have a look at Apache::SizeLimit

Hans.




Re: Traditional music (was Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On 12 May 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:

 I prefer trad English. And I really prefer trad. English vocal,
 preferably without instruments...


I thought I saw someone who looked like you with the Morris Dancers last
monday :)

/J\




Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
 
  Somehow I see b-movie horror mixed with independence day style
  computer geek saves the world.
 
 Buffy meets Real Genius meets Hackers meets Spaced meets Seven Samurai
 meets Pi meets Office Space meets Blade Runner meets Austin Powers?

meets Buckaroo Banzai.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Martin Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:38:08PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
  
  On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
   Aha - some dark evil force creates a website (BIG FONTS) that attracts young
   people from the world and has lots of flashy stuff on it (ok it would be
   flash, but this is a movie, so its just going to be BIG FONTS AND SWIRLING
   STUFF) that is actual fact brainwashing the teenagers to worship the website 
  
  Snow Crash, essentially.
 
 I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film. The
 first three pages, up to the line about pizza, cut slightly and narrated
 in a deadpan style against some suitably badass footage would make an
 absolutely superb start to a movie.

They make a pretty spiffing start to a book too.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Traditional music (was Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Dave Cross

At 22:36 12/05/2001, you wrote:

I prefer trad English. And I really prefer trad. English vocal,
preferably without instruments...

Known amongst many of my friends as The Ballad Of God Knows Who[1]

Dave...

[1] Part of an affectionate classification of folk music into just two 
styles: The Ballad Of God Knows Who and The Diddly-Diddly Song.


-- 
http://www.dave.org.uk  SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug




Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Simon Cozens

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
  Snow Crash, essentially.
 
 I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film.

You're obviously not the only one:
http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/snowcrash.html

-- 
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The phrase
was Divide and conquer not Divide and cock up
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox)



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Chris Ball

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
 I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film.

Totally. I mean, if they can make Antitrust.. :)

:still laughs at: I've fixed our bottleneck! What, you realised that you've
been writing Java?..

~C.

-- 
Chris Ball.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://printf.net/
finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My dream woman's dimensions? 1600x1200x24, for sure.



Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:55:46AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
 
 I see a topic far in the distance and rapidly dwindling...

Topic?  What's a topic?

:-)
-- 
David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
Six course banquet of nothing, with a scoop of sod-all for a palate
cleanser   - Rupert Giles