Re: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)

2001-05-26 Thread Will Jessop

- Original Message -
From: Paul Mison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)


> >So a program of vaccination and slaughter to erradicate the disease will
> >firstly benefit the tourist industry and then also the meat market.  Not
> >that I am a big fan of farmers or the countryside alliance types (and
that
> >is being generous) but I think it would be the best solution all
> >round.  Ooo
> >ar.
>
> No, because the sheer amount of fuss made over F&M clobbered the
> tourist industry- possibly for years, although this is admittely
> anecdotal and predictive- whereas if we'd quietly vaccinated, accepted
> no meat exports for a year

Or until there were no vaccinated or infected animals left in the UK,
whichever came later.

>...and then let the farming industry get back
> on its feet, we'd not have had to kill *three million* animals, and
> poison water, and close footpaths, and the tourist industry wouldn't
> have suffered the way it has over the last couple of months. So, why
> insist on the 'slaughter' bit?

Good idea, maybe a polite memo should have been sent to the all the tabloids
asking them to keep quiet about it :-)





RE: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)

2001-05-25 Thread Robert Thompson

> From: will
> Of course we could just build a super-gun (a-la iraq) and 
> shoot bloated
> carcasses at Redmond.  This is my favouite idea.


Pigs In Space


Rob


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Re: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)

2001-05-25 Thread Paul Mison

On 25/05/2001 at 15:40 +0100, will wrote:

>> The massive British export meat market was worth... 300 million UKP
>> last year. Tourism makes billions.
>>
>> The British rural economy could survive with no exported meat.
>
>So a program of vaccination and slaughter to erradicate the disease will
>firstly benefit the tourist industry and then also the meat market.  Not
>that I am a big fan of farmers or the countryside alliance types (and that
>is being generous) but I think it would be the best solution all
>round.  Ooo
>ar.

No, because the sheer amount of fuss made over F&M clobbered the
tourist industry- possibly for years, although this is admittely
anecdotal and predictive- whereas if we'd quietly vaccinated, accepted
no meat exports for a year, and then let the farming industry get back
on its feet, we'd not have had to kill *three million* animals, and
poison water, and close footpaths, and the tourist industry wouldn't
have suffered the way it has over the last couple of months. So, why
insist on the 'slaughter' bit?

--
:: paul
:: stay all day
:: if you want to





Re: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)

2001-05-25 Thread will

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From: Paul Mison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)


> On 25/05/2001 at 15:08 +0100, will wrote:
> >> In countries where the virus is endemic, veterinarians must vaccinate
> >> at regular intervals.  The vaccines only offer protection for a short
> >> period of time, are expensive, and in some cases contain live viruses
> >> that may infect the animals.
> >
> >Added to this, it is almost (completely?) impossible to trade meat with
> >countries when you have vaccinated the animals.  Vaccinated animals can
> >still carry the disease and other countries obviously do not want to
> >get it.
> >Vaccination is part of a larger solution which still involves culling
> >infected animals, and *also* animals that have been vaccinated
> >againsed the
> >infection.
>
> The massive British export meat market was worth... 300 million UKP
> last year. Tourism makes billions.
>
> The British rural economy could survive with no exported meat.

So a program of vaccination and slaughter to erradicate the disease will
firstly benefit the tourist industry and then also the meat market.  Not
that I am a big fan of farmers or the countryside alliance types (and that
is being generous) but I think it would be the best solution all round.  Ooo
ar.

Of course we could just build a super-gun (a-la iraq) and shoot bloated
carcasses at Redmond.  This is my favouite idea.




Re: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)

2001-05-25 Thread Paul Mison

On 25/05/2001 at 15:08 +0100, will wrote:
>> In countries where the virus is endemic, veterinarians must vaccinate
>> at regular intervals.  The vaccines only offer protection for a short
>> period of time, are expensive, and in some cases contain live viruses
>> that may infect the animals.
>
>Added to this, it is almost (completely?) impossible to trade meat with
>countries when you have vaccinated the animals.  Vaccinated animals can
>still carry the disease and other countries obviously do not want to
>get it.
>Vaccination is part of a larger solution which still involves culling
>infected animals, and *also* animals that have been vaccinated
>againsed the
>infection.

The massive British export meat market was worth... 300 million UKP
last year. Tourism makes billions.

The British rural economy could survive with no exported meat.

--
:: paul
:: stay all day
:: if you want to





Re: FMD (was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21)

2001-05-25 Thread will

> In countries where the virus is endemic, veterinarians must vaccinate
> at regular intervals.  The vaccines only offer protection for a short
> period of time, are expensive, and in some cases contain live viruses
> that may infect the animals.

Added to this, it is almost (completely?) impossible to trade meat with
countries when you have vaccinated the animals.  Vaccinated animals can
still carry the disease and other countries obviously do not want to get it.
Vaccination is part of a larger solution which still involves culling
infected animals, and *also* animals that have been vaccinated againsed the
infection.