Re: Penderel Configuration
jo walsh wrote: > i spose anyone who wants their own database should email me > or alex about it I think yesterday was the first time that I communicated with the same person through email, write(1), and IRC, all in one day. Felt kind of surreal :-) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Penderel Configuration
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > HTML email is bad. In this weeks LWN letters page, there's a cute > letter from Alan Cox explaining how you don't need JS enabled to get > tricked. If you look for "HTML email privacy" at: > I've always been *enabled* whaddya talking about ... /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
RE: Penderel Configuration
> > > > > > this is a good idea. > > We have enough disk space (just !), so I agree totally. > > Have fun with all the binary dependencies :-) Or are you > talking about > having a CPAN mirror, which is an entirely different > water-boiling-device > of pisceans. > Oh no, CPAN mirror is bring, I'm talking about installing all the CPAN modules. Of course some of them do depend on other unbundled software, but we can skip those.
RE: Penderel Configuration
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I notice you don't have Symbol::Approx::Sub installed ;) > > On a side note, now I've figured out how to send proper plain text mail, > anyone know how I can tell outlook to prefix replies with > or likewise ?? > In Outlook menu - Tools/Options select Mail Format tab ... thoug I still havent worked out how to get it to not put the silly header bit ... /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
Re: Penderel Configuration
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:21:34PM -, Andrew Bowman wrote: > It may be heresy to admit it around here (come on then MuttCarroll!), but I > actually quite like Outlook Express (as distinct from Outlook) as a mail > client. Once it's configured to disable scripting etc. it's biggest flaw, > aside from its provenance in Redmond, is that it doesn't seem possible to > disable the display of HTML email - which is kind of annoying given the > opportunity this offers to spammers etc. to track the display of email. > Maybe it's not so good after all ;-) HTML email is bad. In this weeks LWN letters page, there's a cute letter from Alan Cox explaining how you don't need JS enabled to get tricked. If you look for "HTML email privacy" at: http://lwn.net/2001/0215/letters.php3 Related, there's a lovely little tidbit in this months Crypto-Gram, about how you can be caught out. Crypto-Gram should be available as: http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0102.html But, that doesn't seem to be available yet. I got mine from: http://lwn.net/daily/crypto-gram.php3 The interesting bit is the section "A Semantic Attack on URLs". -Dom
Re: Penderel Configuration
jo walsh wrote: > mysql is installed and should be running, Seems not to be. [pne@penderel pne]$ mysql ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (111) [pne@penderel pne]$ date Thu Feb 15 16:41:25 GMT 2001 Cheers, Philip
Re: Penderel Configuration
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:33:00PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > The ~/public_html is what I had in mind, this should be fairly easy to turn > on in httpd.conf, although when I looked it seemed like it was already > configured, but I couldn't get mine to work. The web user needs read access to your home directory as well as to ~/public_html for this to work. IIRC, this isn't the case on penderel. > > > Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group > no? > > > > this is a good idea. > We have enough disk space (just !), so I agree totally. Have fun with all the binary dependencies :-) Or are you talking about having a CPAN mirror, which is an entirely different water-boiling-device of pisceans. > I expect there is > even a way to keep this up-to-date automatically. I would find this really > great as a major hindrance to me trying out scripts I 'find' is usually that > I can't be bothered installing the 1/2 dozen or so modules that need to be > installed first. Some would consider this to be a good thing :-) -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important ** PGP signature
Re: Penderel Configuration
From: "jo walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 15 February 2001 15:56 Subject: RE: Penderel Configuration > > > > I'd like to be able to have a http://london.pm.org/~shiels > > > web address, and > > > a cgi-bin directory. > > k i can do the ~/public_html thing and sort this out is that the best way? > or there is a group of web users who can write to the docroot if you > prefer (both?) > The ~/public_html is what I had in mind, this should be fairly easy to turn on in httpd.conf, although when I looked it seemed like it was already configured, but I couldn't get mine to work. As we're using the .pm.org domain I think the docroot should be pretty restricted. > > > I would like to have (at least) one mysql database to play with. > > mysql is installed and should be running, i spose anyone who wants their > own database should email me or alex about it Will do! > > Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group no? > > this is a good idea. We have enough disk space (just !), so I agree totally. I expect there is even a way to keep this up-to-date automatically. I would find this really great as a major hindrance to me trying out scripts I 'find' is usually that I can't be bothered installing the 1/2 dozen or so modules that need to be installed first. -- /Robert
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> From: Michael Stevens [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Tools -> Options -> Preferences -> E-mail Options ... > (This is Microsoft Outlook 2000 SR-1 Corporate or Workgroup) Outlook 98 and Outlook Express also have this feature. Outlook 97 (my current employer's choice) doesn't (so the above quoting is manually inserted - I should be thankful that the Exchange server here is at least configured to squash HTML/RTF email into plain text). It may be heresy to admit it around here (come on then MuttCarroll!), but I actually quite like Outlook Express (as distinct from Outlook) as a mail client. Once it's configured to disable scripting etc. it's biggest flaw, aside from its provenance in Redmond, is that it doesn't seem possible to disable the display of HTML email - which is kind of annoying given the opportunity this offers to spammers etc. to track the display of email. Maybe it's not so good after all ;-) Andrew.
Re: Penderel Configuration
jo walsh wrote: > > And can we have password based SSH(or whatever we have to > > call it now) as well as PK based ? > > no problems, is enabled. call us at state51 or start a 'talk' > session on the box, i guess, and get told a password This reminds me of my experience in trying to change my password -- it asked me for my old password and I didn't know it :-). A phone call to Alex sorted that out, fortunately. (By the way, alex, did the cheque arrive?) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Penderel Configuration
Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > > > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. > > > > I think Meestah Cross has written something that does this, as have I and > I think that Tom Phoenix has released Inside now which is a properly > implemented way of doing same (I beta tested it for him and it worked > then). surely just $ perldoc perllocal ? -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] there are several good protections against temptation, but the surest is cowardice. -- mark twain
Re: Penderel Configuration
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:00:53PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I notice you don't have Symbol::Approx::Sub installed ;) > On a side note, now I've figured out how to send proper plain text mail, > anyone know how I can tell outlook to prefix replies with > or likewise ?? Tools -> Options -> Preferences -> E-mail Options In "On replies and forwards" set: When replying to a message: Prefix each line of the original message When forwarding a message: Include original message text Prefix each line with: "> " (This is Microsoft Outlook 2000 SR-1 Corporate or Workgroup) Michael
RE: Penderel Configuration
I notice you don't have Symbol::Approx::Sub installed ;) On a side note, now I've figured out how to send proper plain text mail, anyone know how I can tell outlook to prefix replies with > or likewise ?? Thanks Gareth -Original Message- From: Robin Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 February 2001 15:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Penderel Configuration On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. Add this handy alias to your ~/.bashrc and you'll be able to find out whenever you like :-) alias lsmodules='perldoc -m perllocal | perl -nle '\''print $1 if /L<(.*?)>/'\'' | sort -u | column' Output follows. .robin. Apache::AuthCookie Digest::MD5 Parse::Yapp Apache::DB Getopt::LongSet::Object Apache::DBI HTML::ParserStorable Apache::Reload HTML::TagsetTangram Apache::SandwichlibapreqTemplate Apache::Session libwww-perl Text::Autoformat Apache::Stage libxml-enno Tie::IxHash AppConfig libxml-perl URI CGI MIME::Base64XML::Parser Data::ShowTable mod_perlXML::RSS Date::Manip Msql-Mysql-modules XML::XPath DBI Net Devel::Symdump Net::IRC
RE: Penderel Configuration
> > I'd like to be able to have a http://london.pm.org/~shiels > > web address, and > > a cgi-bin directory. k i can do the ~/public_html thing and sort this out is that the best way? or there is a group of web users who can write to the docroot if you prefer (both?) > > I would like to have (at least) one mysql database to play with. mysql is installed and should be running, i spose anyone who wants their own database should email me or alex about it > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. > > Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group no? this is a good idea. > And can we have password based SSH(or whatever we have to call it now) as > well as PK based ? no problems, is enabled. call us at state51 or start a 'talk' session on the box, i guess, and get told a password sorry about continuing absence of mailman jo
Re: Penderel Configuration
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. Add this handy alias to your ~/.bashrc and you'll be able to find out whenever you like :-) alias lsmodules='perldoc -m perllocal | perl -nle '\''print $1 if /L<(.*?)>/'\'' | sort -u | column' Output follows. .robin. Apache::AuthCookie Digest::MD5 Parse::Yapp Apache::DB Getopt::LongSet::Object Apache::DBI HTML::ParserStorable Apache::Reload HTML::TagsetTangram Apache::SandwichlibapreqTemplate Apache::Session libwww-perl Text::Autoformat Apache::Stage libxml-enno Tie::IxHash AppConfig libxml-perl URI CGI MIME::Base64XML::Parser Data::ShowTable mod_perlXML::RSS Date::Manip Msql-Mysql-modules XML::XPath DBI Net Devel::Symdump Net::IRC
Re: Penderel Configuration
From: "Jonathan Stowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 15 February 2001 15:40 Subject: Re: Penderel Configuration > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > > > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. > > > > I think Meestah Cross has written something that does this, as have I and > I think that Tom Phoenix has released Inside now which is a properly > implemented way of doing same (I beta tested it for him and it worked > then). > Cool - perhaps we could have the output of one of these sent to the website automatically every night... -- /Robert
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> > To start: > > I'd like to be able to have a http://london.pm.org/~shiels > web address, and > a cgi-bin directory. > > I would like to have (at least) one mysql database to play with. > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. > Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group no? And can we have password based SSH(or whatever we have to call it now) as well as PK based ? And
Re: Penderel Configuration
On or about Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels typed: >I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. http://www.perlfaq.com/faqs/id/205 Roger
Re: Penderel Configuration
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. > I think Meestah Cross has written something that does this, as have I and I think that Tom Phoenix has released Inside now which is a properly implemented way of doing same (I beta tested it for him and it worked then). /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
