Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Barbie

From: "Mark Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I supose the real question is
>
>  a) Why don't activestate mirror the latest installer on their site, or..
>  b) At least link to it whenever you offer a MSI package to download (or
> at least on the 'downloads' page

Last time I downloaded (build 623) they had both the explanation about the
installer and a direct link to it on the M$ site. Even the install notes
page makes no mention of it. Pretty poor if you ask me.

Barbie





Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Mark Fowler

On Thu, 31 May 2001, Roger Burton West wrote:

> It makes a certain amount of sense. Rather than having to distribute an
> installer program with every package, have a standard installer program
> that you only need to download once.
>
> Copying files, of course, is _much_ too difficult.

Hmm..all working now (well, apart from GD crashing every time I try and
write out a JPEG - but that's another converstation)

I supose the real question is

 a) Why don't activestate mirror the latest installer on their site, or..
 b) At least link to it whenever you offer a MSI package to download (or
at least on the 'downloads' page

>From my point of view I clicked on the 'activeperl' link on their front
page and was simply offered a load of files that I had no idea how to
download.

Grr.

Mark. (back to coding under 'nix)

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Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:07:31PM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed:

>yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it
>has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$ 
>ploy to control the standard install packages?

"I'll take option C for six million dollars, Bob..."

It makes a certain amount of sense. Rather than having to distribute
an installer program with every package, have a standard installer
program that you only need to download once.

Copying files, of course, is _much_ too difficult.

R



Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> You can find it at
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe

yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it
has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$ 
ploy to control the standard install packages?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Andy Williams


You can find it at
http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe

Andy



"We can go back to Dallas, November 22, 1963, stand on the
grassy knoll and shout,"DUCK!!"


On Thu, 31 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote:

> So I'm using a windows computer to do some stuff.  Which means I need a
> decent scripting language, that means I install perl.
>
> I head off to the activestate page and download the MSI for the latest
> build.  My question is...how do I install this?  I can't find the MSI
> installer anywhere on their site.
>
> I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have
> and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.)  Are they randomly
> switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the
> installer when they switched back.
>
> 'elp!
>
> Mark.
>
>
> --
> s''  Mark Fowler London.pm   Bath.pm
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>




Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Chris Heathcote

on 31/5/01 12:37 pm, Mark Fowler wrote:

> I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have
> and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.)  Are they randomly
> switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the
> installer when they switched back.

I have vague memories that MSI is a new MS installation format, that needs a
new Windows installer - prolly Win98...

c.
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Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Dean

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
> I head off to the activestate page and download the MSI for the latest
> build.  My question is...how do I install this?  I can't find the MSI
> installer anywhere on their site.

What version of Windows is it? 2000, ME and the newer ones have it built
in. NT, 95 and 98 can have it bolted on
 
> I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have
> and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.)  Are they randomly
> switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the
> installer when they switched back.

If you go here:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/ActivePerl/

And click the AS Package link. This will give you Perl and options to get
the MSI installer for your version of Windows.

HTH
Dean
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   --- Anon



Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Mark Fowler typed:

>I seem to remember downloading an .exe last week (which I no longer have
>and no longer seems to be where it was on thier site.)  Are they randomly
>switching between MSI and .exe and haven't bothered to upload the
>installer when they switched back.

http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/ActivePerl/Requirements

gives download sites from MS for 9x and NT.

Roger