RE: Password Management
This is things like passwords to a switch, or an access router. These sort of passwords need to be shared between the appropriate administrators. Richard -Original Message- From: Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 July 2002 16:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Password Management Richard Clyne wrote: I have to build a system for password management. Different people here will require access to different passwords based on their roles. Has anyone implemented such a thing in perl, and if so can they give a few pointers. Err - I'm sure passwords aren't meant to be shared around like that. Is this a case of Unix groups being too inflexible? I think the correct solution is to use an authentication / authorisation layer that's better than standard Unix user/group setup, such as SecurID, ACLs, Kerberos or whatever. But that is a right pain of course. Can you make do with judicious use of sudo?? Or maybe: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/gadgets/5a60.shtml If not I'll have to start work designing Richard. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, +44 (0)20 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Password Management
On or about Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 03:38:28AM -0500, Richard Clyne typed: This is things like passwords to a switch, or an access router. These sort of passwords need to be shared between the appropriate administrators. An ISP for which I worked did this by sending out PGP-encrypted mail with the relevant passwords. I haven't found anything better. R
Re: Constant load
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Random linux puzzle: one of my machines in an idle state has a
continuous 1.00 load. There are no runnable processes and the machine is
responsive -- it's not causing problems that I'm aware of. This is a
fresh install; no rootkits.
I had a similar problem when I was installing the kernel on my colo
box. It was having problems loading the driver for the network card.
ifup would spawn a pump to try and dhcp. This would immediatly die
due to not having a interface it could use.
So, this would create a new process, allocate resources, and start running
the code and immediatly quit. However, since the actual process has used
a really tiny amount of system resources it doesn't pop up on top (or
anything else for that matter.) But, because the process had failed
another process would be immediatly spawned and we'd go though the whole
thing again - several thousand times a minute.
Net effect? Using up all the load making the machine run really slowly,
though it seemed responsive (as not one process was taking up all the
resources.) It's just it was taking kernel builds hours (not minutes) to
run. I didn't notice until about two hours later when I realised the
build was taking too long.
Maybe you've got a situation like this - a rapidly respawning process. It
could even be connected to that annoying third party driver you were
talking about.
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Re: Constant load
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 03:53:35AM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: Random linux puzzle: one of my machines in an idle state has a continuous 1.00 load. There are no runnable processes and the machine is responsive -- it's not causing problems that I'm aware of. This is a fresh install; no rootkits. Have you built a new kernel? What version? If so it might be a they've changed the format of /proc again problem. And the fix is to update your top/ps-utils/procps to match. -- Chris Benson
Re: Password Management
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 04:32:17PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/gadgets/5a60.shtml Use of this device instantly creates a strong security policy for your work environment ROFL! -- David Cantrell|Degenerate|http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david All praise the Sun God For He is a Fun God Ra Ra Ra!
Charlbury beer festival tomorrow
I'm going to the Charlbury beer festival tomorrow, partly to meet up with Oxford types, and partly because beer is nice. I'll be getting a train from Paddington around noon-ish. Anyone who wants to come along, drop me an email and we can co-ordinate travel plans. Kake
Re: Charlbury beer festival tomorrow
On 12/07/2002 at 15:36 +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: I'm going to the Charlbury beer festival tomorrow, partly to meet up with Oxford types, and partly because beer is nice. Ah, that reminds me. At the emergency social (and I hope Kate will get round to posting a report soon) I picked up a leaflet for the Great British Beer Festival [0], which happens to run from the 6th to the 10th of August, coinciding with the next social meeting (on Thursday 8th August, in case you hadn't kept track). There have previously been meetings at the beer festival (both in 1999 [1] and 2001 [2]), so would people like to do this again? The main catch I can see is the ticket price (6 UKP), but the people at the pub on Wednesday reckoned you'd make that back in the worth of the beer you were drinking. So, do people think this is a good idea, or would you rather have an ordinary pub meet? [0] http://www.gbbf.org/ [1] http://london.pm.org/nx_meetings/1999_aug.shtml yes, there are some rendering issues on some browsers [2] As the alternative meeting for people not at YAPC::EU -- :: paul :: dave staugas loves bea hablig
Re: Charlbury beer festival tomorrow
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 04:03:29PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: It should be noted that, in a piece of massively fortuitous timing, August 1st is a Thursday, and therefore requires the holding of a heretics' meeting. Which will be at the Pillars of Hercules, Greek St. -- David Cantrell|Reprobate|http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life -- Samuel Johnson
Re: Charlbury beer festival tomorrow
On 12/07/02 15:50 +0100, Paul Mison wrote: On 12/07/2002 at 15:36 +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: I'm going to the Charlbury beer festival tomorrow, partly to meet up with Oxford types, and partly because beer is nice. Ah, that reminds me. At the emergency social (and I hope Kate will get round to posting a report soon) I picked up a leaflet for the Great British Beer Festival [0], which happens to run from the 6th to the 10th of August, coinciding with the next social meeting (on Thursday 8th August, in case you hadn't kept track). There have previously been meetings at the beer festival (both in 1999 [1] and 2001 [2]), so would people like to do this again? The main catch I can see is the ticket price (6 UKP), but the people at the pub on Wednesday reckoned you'd make that back in the worth of the beer you were drinking. So, do people think this is a good idea, or would you rather have an ordinary pub meet? It should be noted that, in a piece of massively fortuitous timing, August 1st is a Thursday, and therefore requires the holding of a heretics' meeting. So those who can't face that much good beer in one large hall can have their pubmeet for August, and beer festivalage is still possible. I for one would be well up for festivalling it up... -- Simon Batistoni Penseroso Ltd +44 20 7242 0570 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Charlbury beer festival tomorrow
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 03:50:26PM +0100, Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ah, that reminds me. At the emergency social (and I hope Kate will get round to posting a report soon) I picked up a leaflet for the Great British Beer Festival [0], which happens to run from the 6th to the 10th of August, coinciding with the next social meeting (on Thursday 8th August, in case you hadn't kept track). There have previously been meetings at the beer festival (both in 1999 [1] and 2001 [2]), so would people like to do this again? The main catch I can see is the ticket price (6 UKP), but the people at the pub on Wednesday reckoned you'd make that back in the worth of the beer you were drinking. So, do people think this is a good idea, or would you rather have an ordinary pub meet? [0] http://www.gbbf.org/ [1] http://london.pm.org/nx_meetings/1999_aug.shtml yes, there are some rendering issues on some browsers [2] As the alternative meeting for people not at YAPC::EU Worth also noting that August is our anniversary meeting (we'll be four this year). IIRC, the 1999 GBBF meeting had a pretty small turnout, so personally I'd vote for a normal meeting. Dave... -- Shoot some of those missiles, think of us as fatherless scum It won't be forgotten 'cause we'll never say anything nice again Will we?
Re: Constant load
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 10:37:56AM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: Have you built a new kernel? What version? It's 2.4.18 stable (i.e. not a -ac or -pre or -rc etc). If so it might be a they've changed the format of /proc again problem. And the fix is to update your top/ps-utils/procps to match. $ cat /proc/loadavg 2.01 2.02 2.01 2/59 21346 $ Seems pretty unambiguous :-) Or did you mean something else? Incidently, it's 2.00 'cos the additional 1.00 is from a distributed.net client. If I turn that off it indeed drops to 1.00 I forgot to mention -- the kernel is compiled from my old server's .config which is a dualproc whereas this is only a uniproc. Might that do it? In response to Mark's post -- the machine works fine, in fact is blindingly quick compared to the old dual P3-6 and the pids aren't wildly incrementing, so I don't think there's a problem problem per se. Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ If the needle moves from right to left, then yes, I think I will. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: Constant load
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 04:34:18PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 10:37:56AM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: Have you built a new kernel? What version? It's 2.4.18 stable (i.e. not a -ac or -pre or -rc etc). If so it might be a they've changed the format of /proc again problem. And the fix is to update your top/ps-utils/procps to match. $ cat /proc/loadavg 2.01 2.02 2.01 2/59 21346 $ OK that looks like mine. I forgot to mention -- the kernel is compiled from my old server's .config which is a dualproc whereas this is only a uniproc. Might that do it? Hmmm the proc_loadave_read() doesn't depend on CONFIG_SMP, but calc_load() which sets the load-ave is in kernel/timer.c which has several #ifdef CONFIG_SMP so that is distinctly possible. Why the load-ave might be 1+whatever-it-should-be I dunno! In response to Mark's post -- the machine works fine, in fact is blindingly quick compared to the old dual P3-6 and the pids aren't wildly incrementing, so I don't think there's a problem problem per se. I'd offer to try it out for you :-) But I presume your users would like that even less than you removing active modules. G.Luck -- Chris Benson
August social meet - in a pub or at the GBBF?
Reposting with a new subject line and the References: header nuked, since some people on IRC suggested that this shouldn't be hidden in the middle of an unrelated thread. On Fri 12 Jul 2002, Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a leaflet for the Great British Beer Festival [0], which happens to run from the 6th to the 10th of August, coinciding with the next social meeting (on Thursday 8th August, [...]) There have previously been meetings at the beer festival [...] so would people like to do this again? The main catch I can see is the ticket price (6 UKP), but the people at the pub on Wednesday reckoned you'd make that back in the worth of the beer you were drinking. So, do people think this is a good idea, or would you rather have an ordinary pub meet? [0] http://www.gbbf.org/ I would be happy to have the social at the GBBF, especially since, as has already been pointed out, there is a heretics meet next month too, so people who don't want to beer-festival can go to that instead. Dave pointed out that the attendance at previous beer festival meets has been low, but I don't see that as being something we need to take into account *unless* people specifically raise personal objections now. So if you want to object, object. Kake
Re: August social meet - in a pub or at the GBBF?
I seem to understand this post better this time 'round for some reason. Sounds like a fun idea, I'm up for it. (And not just because it's not CoY :-) Paul On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 10:16:01PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote: Reposting with a new subject line and the References: header nuked, since some people on IRC suggested that this shouldn't be hidden in the middle of an unrelated thread. On Fri 12 Jul 2002, Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a leaflet for the Great British Beer Festival [0], which happens to run from the 6th to the 10th of August, coinciding with the next social meeting (on Thursday 8th August, [...]) [snip] -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ If I follow your example, then you can place a hammer in a cake. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
