Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On 11/02/2010 17:28, Richard Huxton wrote: You already have an "id" attribute on the toggle links (e.g. "toggler_1"). Add a class on each "tr": "depends_on_1" and then a couple of lines of jquery or similar should let you toggle the rows on/off. As per my previous response, complete with example: http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20100201/019103.html A
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:39PM +, Tom Hukins said:
> Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a
> group of people trying to make a TV show?
Sports Night ('98-'00) and Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip ('06-'07) both
from Aaron "West Wing" Sorkin. In a similar vein to the latter "30 Rock"
with Tina Fey.
The wikipedia pages of those lead us to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Television_series_about_television
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Tom Hukins wrote: Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a group of people trying to make a TV show? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Wallpaper -- bob walker buses should be purple and bendy
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On 11 February 2010 22:13, Tom Hukins wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 07:57:31PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: > > Rather bizarrely, I was pimpspammed about a "Head of Technology" > > role at Endemol. > > "It's day one and the candidates have been asked about their five main > strengths and weaknesses..." > > Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a > group of people trying to make a TV show? > > Tom (no TV since 1999) > Yep, decades ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dick_Van_Dyke_Show Seinfeld sort of qualifies, though his aim was a complete piss take of that. "It's a show about NOTHING!"
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On 11 Feb 2010, at 22:13, Tom Hukins wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 07:57:31PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: >> Rather bizarrely, I was pimpspammed about a "Head of Technology" role at >> Endemol. > "It's day one and the candidates have been asked about their five main > strengths and weaknesses..." *giggle* > Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a group of > people trying to make a TV show? Almost certainly. > Tom (no TV since 1999) Since April 2000 for me. I might have missed TV had DVD box sets not been invented. I certainly don't miss the stuff that's too crap even to bother releasing on DVD.
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 05:28:25PM +, Richard Huxton said: > You already have an "id" attribute on the toggle links (e.g. "toggler_1"). > Add a class on each "tr": "depends_on_1" and then a couple of lines of > jquery or similar should let you toggle the rows on/off. I knocked this together over lunch http://thegestalt.org/simon/tmp/collapse/collapse.html All in a table, readable without JS on but can collpase and expand trees if you have it on. Code that generated it is in http://thegestalt.org/simon/tmp/collapse/
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 07:57:31PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: > Rather bizarrely, I was pimpspammed about a "Head of Technology" > role at Endemol. "It's day one and the candidates have been asked about their five main strengths and weaknesses..." Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a group of people trying to make a TV show? Tom (no TV since 1999)
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On 12/02/2010, at 7:35 AM, David Cantrell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:40:03AM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: >> On 12/02/2010, at 12:03 AM, James Laver wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. >>> Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws ... >> Everywhere with nice weather has its down side unfortunately. > > And Malaysia doesn't even have nice weather! Suppose it depends what temperature you like your rain. And what time of day you like the rain to happen :)
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:40:03AM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: > On 12/02/2010, at 12:03 AM, James Laver wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: > >> > >> The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food > >> and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the > >> way. > > Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws ... > Everywhere with nice weather has its down side unfortunately. And Malaysia doesn't even have nice weather! -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice What profiteth a man, if he win a flame war, yet lose his cool?
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 06:43:43PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: > I don't think that a table is the only way to represent that data, > unless you have particular accessibility concerns that require one. I'm > not seeing anything in the html that suggests that though. Must be accessible and readable in all reasonable browsers, including those used by crazy people who turn off Javascript. I test this using w3m. > By the time you've flung enough divs at it to make it work, you'd > probably rather have solved the problem of collapsing rows in a table > instead :-) Indeed, which is what I ended up doing, except today I noticed that it breaks in Firefox. Grrr. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness Nuke a disabled unborn gay baby whale for JESUS!
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On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:10, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: > The market must be picking up - I am getting "head hunted" again :-) > Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that > the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. I get loads of trawls, so much that it's tiring seeing the same bloody agencies over and over again spamming me with their PHP and webmonkey jobs in Outer Arseshire paying tuppence a week. Premier London is one, so just block *...@premier-london.co.uk now to save time later. What I mainly noticed when the market dived is that the agencies switched from phoning people with the skills to just spamming everybody on their database, and I'm hoping for this to revert again now the market's picking back up. I'm back up to one or two calls a day again, from a peak of six a day in 2007. > I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am > curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a > new CTO? Rather bizarrely, I was pimpspammed about a "Head of Technology" role at Endemol. Everybody must be doing their spring cleaning of dead wood in anticipation of getting somebody useful in.
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On 12/02/2010, at 12:03 AM, James Laver wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: >> >> The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and >> just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. > > Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws that prop up > racism (you're decidedly not Malaysian), sexism (nearly as bad as > Afghanistan) and where homosexuality is illegal (punishable by death in some > parts of the country)? At least you could probably bribe your way out of a > trumped up > crime if the internet is being reliably informed today. Everywhere with nice weather has its down side unfortunately. In many cases it's things like cyclones and earthquakes. In this case it's a somewhat odd political situation. On an almost-totally-unrelated note did you know that the New Internationalist Magazine is a Perl shop. They write lots of stuff about the effects post-colonialisation on nation states ;) http://www.newint.org/columns/country/2009/03/01/malaysia/
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On 11/2/10 17:25, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 05:02:07PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: On 11/2/10 16:28, David Cantrell wrote: I assume that the reason is that people haven't bothered looking at the site. Because if they did, they would see obviously tabular data. You didn't cite a link but I assume we're looking at something like this: http://deps.cpantesters.org/?module=HTML%3A%3ATreeBuilder&perl=5.10.0&os=Linux Doesn't look very tabular to me. I see a bunch of stuff lining up but that's not the same as a table. Actually, that's exactly what a table is. A time*table*, for example, would be no good if stuff was thrown at random all over the page. Hmm, yeah fair point. I wasn't making myself very clear there obviously :-) I think I meant that each column only has a relationship in it's row. There's no vertical relationship, unlike a timetable which has relationships in a vertical and horizontal direction. Lining columns up in your case is largely presentational. Not that there is anything wrong with that, it would be an ugly mess if they weren't. I don't think that a table is the only way to represent that data, unless you have particular accessibility concerns that require one. I'm not seeing anything in the html that suggests that though. I would start by putting the SBRD, results by version and pass bar into a div and floating it right. That will make them all line up against an enclosing div that's not as wide as the page. Then put the fail scores into a div and float it with some cunning margin jiggery pokery to hang it out on the right, outside of the containing div. The tricky part is making the SBRD div float just to the right of the longest module name. I can't think of a sensible way of doing that at the moment and am as ever deficient in tuits to work on it. It might not be possible but it probably is solvable and then you can use the tools that already exist for manipulating trees in Javascript. By the time you've flung enough divs at it to make it work, you'd probably rather have solved the problem of collapsing rows in a table instead :-) S.
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 17:01, Dirk Koopman wrote: > James Laver wrote: >> >> It's my single biggest source of spam. I get 419s all the time to it, job >> ads and today spam from a loan company that will loan me up to a million >> quid. Of course i'm likely to borrow a million quid off a spammer... > > I would, just wouldn't pay it back :-) "I'd love to pay it back; unfortunately, the money is held in a trust account and we need you to provide the account closure fees in order for the money to be released. Bribes may also accelerate the process." Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 05:02:07PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: > On 11/2/10 16:28, David Cantrell wrote: > >I assume that the reason is that people haven't bothered looking at the > >site. Because if they did, they would see obviously tabular data. > You didn't cite a link but I assume we're looking at something like this: > http://deps.cpantesters.org/?module=HTML%3A%3ATreeBuilder&perl=5.10.0&os=Linux > Doesn't look very tabular to me. I see a bunch of stuff lining up but > that's not the same as a table. Actually, that's exactly what a table is. A time*table*, for example, would be no good if stuff was thrown at random all over the page. -- David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire [OS X] appeals to me as a monk, a user, a compiler-of-apps, a sometime coder, and an easily amused primate with a penchant for those that are pretty, colorful, and make nice noises. -- Dan Birchall, in The Monastery
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On 11/02/10 17:02, Simon Wilcox wrote: On 11/2/10 16:28, David Cantrell wrote: I assume that the reason is that people haven't bothered looking at the site. Because if they did, they would see obviously tabular data. You didn't cite a link but I assume we're looking at something like this: http://deps.cpantesters.org/?module=HTML%3A%3ATreeBuilder&perl=5.10.0&os=Linux Doesn't look very tabular to me. I see a bunch of stuff lining up but that's not the same as a table. Blimey - it is a table too. You already have an "id" attribute on the toggle links (e.g. "toggler_1"). Add a class on each "tr": "depends_on_1" and then a couple of lines of jquery or similar should let you toggle the rows on/off. -- Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd
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On 11/2/10 16:28, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:07:41PM +, Jonathan Tweed wrote: On 11 Feb 2010, at 13:40, David Cantrell wrote: I'm going to be very rude to the next person to suggest something that assumes I have a hierarchy of s instead of a . Could it be that you're doing the wrong thing? Maybe it keeps getting suggested for a reason... I assume that the reason is that people haven't bothered looking at the site. Because if they did, they would see obviously tabular data. You didn't cite a link but I assume we're looking at something like this: http://deps.cpantesters.org/?module=HTML%3A%3ATreeBuilder&perl=5.10.0&os=Linux Doesn't look very tabular to me. I see a bunch of stuff lining up but that's not the same as a table. Or am I looking at the wrong thing ? S.
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:07:41PM +, Jonathan Tweed wrote: > On 11 Feb 2010, at 13:40, David Cantrell wrote: > > I'm going to be very rude to the next person to suggest something that > > assumes I have a hierarchy of s instead of a . > Could it be that you're doing the wrong thing? > Maybe it keeps getting suggested for a reason... I assume that the reason is that people haven't bothered looking at the site. Because if they did, they would see obviously tabular data. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world Computer Science is about lofty design goals and careful algorithmic optimisation. Sysadminning is about cleaning up the resulting mess.
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James Laver wrote: It's my single biggest source of spam. I get 419s all the time to it, job ads and today spam from a loan company that will loan me up to a million quid. Of course i'm likely to borrow a million quid off a spammer... I would, just wouldn't pay it back :-) Dirk
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just to fill in some info, i have been working with this shop to find a cto. i will tell the ceo this was a foolish move as it breaks the rules. they are a legit outfit and the ceo actually seems to have a perl clue. the perl test he sends out is unique, interesting and really tests your skills in a short time frame. that alone impressed me. anyhow, if anyone wants more info, contact me. if you know someone who may be interested in the job, send them my way and there could be a referal fee in it for you. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman -- u...@stemsystems.com http://www.sysarch.com -- - Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support -- - Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix http://bestfriendscocoa.com -
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 03:21:23PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > I thought something like that, too; the copy I got was addressed to my > @cpan.org email address, which I don't actively give out, either. It's my single biggest source of spam. I get 419s all the time to it, job ads and today spam from a loan company that will loan me up to a million quid. Of course i'm likely to borrow a million quid off a spammer... --James
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:02, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:58:07AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: >> Snap.. >> >> I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) >> >> Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? > > It's scraped from search.cpan.org > (Or it's the publicly visible PAUSE e-mail addresses). I thought something like that, too; the copy I got was addressed to my @cpan.org email address, which I don't actively give out, either. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On 11 February 2010 13:40, David Cantrell wrote: > > I'm going to be very rude to the next person to suggest something that > assumes I have a hierarchy of s instead of a . Using and tags does not mean you need to have them display in a bulleted list. * ducks and runs* -- Noli immiscere te draconum rebus nam fragilis es dentibus et cum garo bene sapis.
Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please
On 11 Feb 2010, at 13:40, David Cantrell wrote: I'm going to be very rude to the next person to suggest something that assumes I have a hierarchy of s instead of a . Could it be that you're doing the wrong thing? Maybe it keeps getting suggested for a reason... Cheers Jonathan
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:49:05PM +, Oliver Gorwits wrote: > On 05/02/2010 14:25, David Cantrell wrote: > > I want to add a Thingy to CPANdeps to let users collapse/expand portions > > of the dependency tree. How would one go about this? > > Naively wrapping s in s and toggling their style.display > > doesn't work, presumably because isn't kosher in a . > Use this, it's very simple indeed and works well: >http://www.mattkruse.com/javascript/mktree/documentation.html I'm going to be very rude to the next person to suggest something that assumes I have a hierarchy of s instead of a . -- David Cantrell | top google result for "internet beard fetish club" Immigration: making Britain great since AD43
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:13:15PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: > > The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and > just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. Albeit under an antiquated religious system with ridiculous laws that prop up racism (you're decidedly not Malaysian), sexism (nearly as bad as Afghanistan) and where homosexuality is illegal (punishable by death in some parts of the country)? At least you could probably bribe your way out of a trumped up crime if the internet is being reliably informed today. --James
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On 11 February 2010 11:13, Kieren Diment wrote: > Mine came to my mailing lists address. The job is in an absolutely beautiful > part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you > could possibly imagine by the way. It's a shame I'm not in the market right > now. > ..because you work for their PR department instead? ;) Phil
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On 11/02/2010, at 10:00 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: > > On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:58, Dirk Koopman wrote: > >> Snap.. >> >> I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) >> >> Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? > > Dunno, but, FWIW, mine was addressed to my IRC nick not my real first name. Mine came to my mailing lists address. The job is in an absolutely beautiful part of the world with great food and just about the most benign weather you could possibly imagine by the way. It's a shame I'm not in the market right now.
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:58:07AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: > Snap.. > > I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) > > Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? It's scraped from search.cpan.org (Or it's the publicly visible PAUSE e-mail addresses). My public PAUSE address is unique, used nowhere else, and never used to send e-mail. Miyagawa relays that Luke Closs suggested YAPC in Malaysia, sponsored by Betonmarkets. Nicholas Clark
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On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:58, Dirk Koopman wrote: > Snap.. > > I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) > > Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? Dunno, but, FWIW, mine was addressed to my IRC nick not my real first name. -- Mike Whitaker| Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer m...@altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team
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Snap.. I got one of these as well. Wonder if that is coincidence :-) Perhaps we should ask whose mailing list he has managed to get hold of? Dirk Jacqui Caren-home wrote: The market must be picking up - I am getting "head hunted" again :-) Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a new CTO? Jacqui Original Message Subject: Betonmarkets CTO position Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:18:49 +0800 From: Jean-Yves Sireau Organisation: Regent Markets Group Dear Jacqui, Betonmarkets.com, the leading financial betting company, is looking to recruit a CTO. As a Perl expert, I was wondering whether you may be interested in the position? The Betonmarkets website and underlying systems are developed entirely in Perl and typically conduct 20,000 transactions per day. We are looking for a CTO who is expert and enthusiastic about Perl, as well as experienced in management and team leadership, and able to assume the role of CTO of a successful e-commerce company. We are located in Cyberjaya, Malaysia, which offers a high quality as well as low cost of living. We are a multi-national company, with staff from 14 countries (including the US, Europe, and Asia). Our company, and its location in Cyberjaya, offer a unique living and working experience for expatriates. If you would be interested to know more about this position, kindly email me your CV. Please feel free to forward this email to any person in the Perl community who may be interested in the opportunity. Best regards, Jean-Yves Sireau
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: > The market must be picking up - I am getting "head hunted" again :-) > Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that > the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. > > I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am > curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a > new CTO? Just to complete the information about this - they did advertise it on the Perl Jobs linkedin group about a month ago - apparently they did not get any valuable answers and now got a bit desperate. I know someone already instructed them to post it at jobs.perl.org - let's hope it all ends up well. Cheers, Zbigniew http://brudnopis.blogspot.com/ http://perlalchemy.blogspot.com/
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On 11/02/2010 10:10, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: The market must be picking up - I am getting "head hunted" again :-) I got the same email, it's like they think people within an industry / skill set don't talk to each other :-) regards, Paul
[Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position]
The market must be picking up - I am getting "head hunted" again :-) Ok, I *know* its a trawl and a not very targetted one but the fact that the RA's are bothering to do trawls must mean things are picking up again. I dont really fancy moving abroad - quite happy where I am - but I am curious about this company - anybody know why they are hunting for a new CTO? Jacqui Original Message Subject: Betonmarkets CTO position Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:18:49 +0800 From: Jean-Yves Sireau Organisation: Regent Markets Group Dear Jacqui, Betonmarkets.com, the leading financial betting company, is looking to recruit a CTO. As a Perl expert, I was wondering whether you may be interested in the position? The Betonmarkets website and underlying systems are developed entirely in Perl and typically conduct 20,000 transactions per day. We are looking for a CTO who is expert and enthusiastic about Perl, as well as experienced in management and team leadership, and able to assume the role of CTO of a successful e-commerce company. We are located in Cyberjaya, Malaysia, which offers a high quality as well as low cost of living. We are a multi-national company, with staff from 14 countries (including the US, Europe, and Asia). Our company, and its location in Cyberjaya, offer a unique living and working experience for expatriates. If you would be interested to know more about this position, kindly email me your CV. Please feel free to forward this email to any person in the Perl community who may be interested in the opportunity. Best regards, Jean-Yves Sireau -- Jean-Yves Sireau, CEO Regent Markets Group Ltd. Genseq Ltd.
